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    Aloha

    The Lakers have shown interest in the Pacers Holiday a 6’ 6” 3 and D guy that play both wing positions. But I came across this.

    Holiday is one of the many players the Pacers are believed to be shopping in trade, but his vaccination status could make a team (such as the Los Angeles Lakers) less inclined to make an offer.

    One league source on a top-10 team guessed that Holiday might get vaccinated if he had a chance to join a contender. But a source close to Holiday acknowledged that vaccination status could be an impediment.

    Would be a good add but not if won’t get vaccinated.

    Holiday

    Aloha

    The Lakers have shown interest in the Pacers Holiday a 6’ 6” 3 and D guy that play both wing positions. But I came across this.

    Holiday is one of the many players the Pacers are believed to be shopping in trade, but his vaccination status could make a team (such as the Los Angeles Lakers) less inclined to make an offer.

    One league source on a top-10 team guessed that Holiday might get vaccinated if he had a chance to join a contender. But a source close to Holiday acknowledged that vaccination status could be an impediment.

    Would be a good add but not if won’t get vaccinated.

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    • I saw Holiday come out as anti-Vax. That’s a shame since he might be an attainable 3&D small forward. He’d have to get vaccinated for me to support him too.

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    Aloha,

    After watching the issues we had with Ish and scary Terry, it was clear to me that LeBron and AD’s injuries were not the only ones that severely impacted this team. Now Austin is a promising young defender but it was painfully apparent that he doesn’t have the quickness to hang with players as quick as Ish. And it was folly believing that THT was going to come in and be a defender as good as Alex or THT. While THT has shown enough flashes of defensive ability, it’s rare for a 21 year old to become a defensive stalwart. That usually takes several years.

    It’s easy to see, considering Russ is not much of defender that Nunn would have been playing the Bradley role on this team. Avery has taken a lot of heat from some, but we were lucky he fell into our lap, there was no plan B and without Avery, it could have been worse against some of the quick guards in the NBA. While Malik has some quickness and has shown some defensive improvement, at only 23 he also has a lot to learn.

    So to me I think of Nunn as our secret weapon. It’s tough when you can’t defend the opposing point guard with your own point guard, but Thats our situation with Russ as our point guard. With our lack of trading chips, Nunn could be our best mid season acquisition. He is quick, a good defender and a 3 level scorer. I know we dangled him in the trade offer for Grant, which made sense but I doubt he’s been part of a package for a lesser player. I mean it would be disastrous to have a Westbrook/Buddy starting backcourt. It would be like a sieve that would make AD’s life miserable. It would also be a lot to ask of a 33 year old Eric Gordon to stay with guys like , Tre, Ja and Steph.

    For us to even have a chance, it’s going to take more than just LeBron and AD being healthy, we are going to need Nunn as well. Hopefully he will be returning soon enough to find a rhythm before the play offs.

    Secret Weapon

    Aloha,

    After watching the issues we had with Ish and scary Terry, it was clear to me that LeBron and AD’s injuries were not the only ones that severely impacted this team. Now Austin is a promising young defender but it was painfully apparent that he doesn’t have the quickness to hang with players as quick as Ish. And it was folly believing that THT was going to come in and be a defender as good as Alex or THT. While THT has shown enough flashes of defensive ability, it’s rare for a 21 year old to become a defensive stalwart. That usually takes several years.

    It’s easy to see, considering Russ is not much of defender that Nunn would have been playing the Bradley role on this team. Avery has taken a lot of heat from some, but we were lucky he fell into our lap, there was no plan B and without Avery, it could have been worse against some of the quick guards in the NBA. While Malik has some quickness and has shown some defensive improvement, at only 23 he also has a lot to learn.

    So to me I think of Nunn as our secret weapon. It’s tough when you can’t defend the opposing point guard with your own point guard, but Thats our situation with Russ as our point guard. With our lack of trading chips, Nunn could be our best mid season acquisition. He is quick, a good defender and a 3 level scorer. I know we dangled him in the trade offer for Grant, which made sense but I doubt he’s been part of a package for a lesser player. I mean it would be disastrous to have a Westbrook/Buddy starting backcourt. It would be like a sieve that would make AD’s life miserable. It would also be a lot to ask of a 33 year old Eric Gordon to stay with guys like , Tre, Ja and Steph.

    For us to even have a chance, it’s going to take more than just LeBron and AD being healthy, we are going to need Nunn as well. Hopefully he will be returning soon enough to find a rhythm before the play offs.

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    • Great post, Michael. I’ve found myself wondering if being injured might make Nunn not worth trading, in which case he could turn out to be a monster silver lining for the Lakers. Unlike THT, Nunn’s game is perfect for the small ball style we play and he would be perfect as out backup point guard.

      In many ways, Monk is doing right now what we expected Nunn to do: score at all levels and defend physically and athletically. So I agree with you that Nunn could be our wild card.

      By the same token, I think there are teams out there who see what Nunn could bring despite not yet playing or what THT could turn into on a team that had great shooting. Will come down to who needs to make a move, whom they pursue, and what they’re willing to offer to land him.

      Lakers need two new starters next to the three superstars. Nunn or Monk should be one but the other starter should be a 3&D four or five to give our starting lineup another big and another shooter. We may end up having to settle for a shooting guard big enough to play the three but really need a true three, four, or five.

      Watching Dwight play today, I’m leaning towards Myles Turner maybe being the perfect player for us to trade THT, Nunn, and the pick for. Russ, Monk, James, Davis, and Turner would be a killer starting lineup with LeBron or AD playing backup center depending on matchup. Turner may be easier to land than players like Grant or Barnes and would give us the ability to go superbig as well as small ball.

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    Aloha,

    Russell Westbrook is the single most frustrating Laker I have ever followed. He helped bury us in the first and dug us out in the 2nd half. Then he puts up a 3 at the buzzer. The floor was spread and he took the 3.
    🤷‍♂️

    It’s really hard to have any kind of rhythm as a team with the rotation shuffled all the time and it did hurt us, especially in the first quarter. So that’s why it was so fun to watch these guys battle when they could have given up.

    It was great to see Bazemore hit some shots. For awhile he couldn’t make a layup. Hopefully this gives him a little of the confidence he clearly had lost back.

    Austin had a nice bounce back game. He had trouble defending Ish but over all he was real solid. And it was good to see him finally hit a couple of 3’s.

    There was some very questionable coaching moves, the biggest being going with DJ over Dwight. I think we win the game if Dwight starts. DJ’s 6 missed free throws killed us.

    That blocking call on THT that resulted in a 3 point play have may have been one of the worst calls I have seen this year. It was even challenged. That turned out to be a huge bad call that may have cost us the game.

    Ellington went 3 for 5 from 3. Hit his last 2 and never got another shot. This is a season long frustration for me. Our inability to look for our shooters. Steph Curry might only get five 3’s a game on this team.

    One thing that won’t show up on the stat sheet. Stanley set great after great pick to free Russ. He might be the best at setting picks on the team.

    It was a great team effort game. They kept knocking us down and we kept getting up.

    Great Effort

    Aloha,

    Russell Westbrook is the single most frustrating Laker I have ever followed. He helped bury us in the first and dug us out in the 2nd half. Then he puts up a 3 at the buzzer. The floor was spread and he took the 3.
    🤷‍♂️

    It’s really hard to have any kind of rhythm as a team with the rotation shuffled all the time and it did hurt us, especially in the first quarter. So that’s why it was so fun to watch these guys battle when they could have given up.

    It was great to see Bazemore hit some shots. For awhile he couldn’t make a layup. Hopefully this gives him a little of the confidence he clearly had lost back.

    Austin had a nice bounce back game. He had trouble defending Ish but over all he was real solid. And it was good to see him finally hit a couple of 3’s.

    There was some very questionable coaching moves, the biggest being going with DJ over Dwight. I think we win the game if Dwight starts. DJ’s 6 missed free throws killed us.

    That blocking call on THT that resulted in a 3 point play have may have been one of the worst calls I have seen this year. It was even challenged. That turned out to be a huge bad call that may have cost us the game.

    Ellington went 3 for 5 from 3. Hit his last 2 and never got another shot. This is a season long frustration for me. Our inability to look for our shooters. Steph Curry might only get five 3’s a game on this team.

    One thing that won’t show up on the stat sheet. Stanley set great after great pick to free Russ. He might be the best at setting picks on the team.

    It was a great team effort game. They kept knocking us down and we kept getting up.

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    • Aloha, Michael,

      Man, I feel you on Russell Westbrook. Much as I love how hard Russ plays. At the worst point in the first half, I screamed enough was enough. I could no longer support keeping Russ. The chaos and dysfunction is just too much to bear.

      Then, of course, Russ turns it around 180 degrees and brings the Lakers all the way back with great play after great play. I must have screamed “Great pass, Russ” or “Great shot, Russ” over a dozen times. Might have been one of the best halves he ever played. And “F” anybody who complains about Russ taking that last shot. He earned it over a dozen times in the second half.

      Would I have liked to have seen more shooters on the court? Just don’t understand why Frank doesn’t get the entire concept of spacing. You’re right about our 3-point shooting in that we don’t optimize or run plays to create threes and Frank often almost deliberately undermines his lineups by packing them with non-shooters. Far as I am concerned, the sooner we replace him with Phil Handy, the better our chances of winning will be this season.

      As for starting DJ, I can only assume Dwight can’t handle back-to-backs. Either that or Frank Vogel’s boyfriend might have shared some information with DJ to get him another shot at starting. Watching him start was like having DJ stuck in our faces one last time just for revenge. I no longer want Frank Vogel to be the Lakers head coach. We cannot win with a coach who doesn’t understand the nuances of the modern game of baskertball or how to build a balanced and effective lineup or rotation.

      The major problem right now is Vogel’s starting lineups are putting us in double digit deficits almost every game. The pattern is frustratingly simple. A starting lineup gives the other team a 20 point lead which the Lakers spend the entire game trying to overcome. The Hornets loss was a perfect example: lost by 3 after overcoming a 20-point first half deficit. As was the 76ers’ game, where we faded late after making up most of a 22-point lead. Same with the Heat, where we came back to lose by 6 in a game where we trailed by 26 in the first half.

      The bad news is we lost those games because Vogel is terrible at putting together winning starting lineups. Even during the bubble championship season, the Lakers faced similar first half deficits with McGee starting. It’s like Frank wants to give every team an early lead. We need a coach who understands that you cannot start every game by giving the other team an early lead because of inept offensive lineups to start games.

      The good news is the dysfunction created by Vogel’s resistence to playing small may finally have been ended with a commitment to play AD and LeBron as our centers. It’s also good news that the Lakers need to make major moves if they have any hope of competing for #18 this season. As you’ve pointed out, it’s going to be tough to to make major improvements due to our limited trading chips. The one thing we cannot do is stand pat. This team is not good or deep or big enough to win a ring this season unless they make a major trade for at least one new starter who is a high volume and high percentage 3-point shooter.

      Finally, I also could not believe that was not an offensive foul. That’s two major calls that ended up screwing the Lakers’ chance to win a game. And people wonder why Lakers fans, who watched Shaq and Kobe get brutalized for years without help from the zebras get incredibly angry as they watch LeBron be disrespected so often despite attacking the rim relentlessly. Same with Russ. The refs clearly do not like the Lakers.

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    Aloha

    Oh well, this should be interesting, AD, LeBron and Malik are all out today. What else is new.

    Oh well

    Aloha

    Oh well, this should be interesting, AD, LeBron and Malik are all out today. What else is new.

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    • Is this not what we should expect in this third crazy Covid season, just let us be healthy for a change. We’ll take whatever fate awaits us. But stop the plague of bad luck and ill fortune.

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    Aloha

    Last night was a battle between two of the best in the league and AD won the battle but the Lakers lost the war. This is the AD that we all hope to see going forward. On just AD’s second game back I was hoping he would just hold his own. I was elated to see him out play Embid, who was on a historic run. The most important aspect of AD’s night was his found jump shot. It had gone missing after he sustained that thumb injury, early in the season. Perhaps the time off gave his thumb time to properly heal as well.

    The rest of the game went down hill from there. Despite his decent offensive night, Russ is just not a good fit for this team when we are in the half court. LeBron organizes the floor. And he finds the open man. May not always be the right guy but at least they are open. Russ does none of that. Our 3 point shooters struggled last night but part of that was because they didn’t have many clean looks. And the 3 assists that Russ managed is unacceptable with LeBron out. Malik was the guy setting up AD with 5 assists. Throw in Russ’s wild turns overs, whether it’s a very bad pass or dribbling into 3 defenders, it’s clear Russ is not the guy to carry the load with a star out.

    Our defense was good enough to win this game. Considering the way Embid was playing, 26 on 9 for 20 was good effort. Harris had 23 but that wasn’t a back breaker. 105 over all was okay. Our offense just has to be better. Both Austin and THT are slumping which hurts. I would like to see Wayne get a little run every game. As a shooter, it’s just asking a lot of him to come in after not playing for long stretches of games and expect him to be sharp.I’ve seen enough from Malik and Melo that I’m not too concerned by an off night.

    If there is any silver lining it’s that when I looked at this road trip I actually had at 2 and 2 at this point, thinking they would beat the Hornets and Hawks with AD back. But the Hornets are a good team and the Hawks are on a 5 game winning streak. Hopefully LeBron will be back, because it will be tough without him.

    One Bad Man

    Aloha

    Last night was a battle between two of the best in the league and AD won the battle but the Lakers lost the war. This is the AD that we all hope to see going forward. On just AD’s second game back I was hoping he would just hold his own. I was elated to see him out play Embid, who was on a historic run. The most important aspect of AD’s night was his found jump shot. It had gone missing after he sustained that thumb injury, early in the season. Perhaps the time off gave his thumb time to properly heal as well.

    The rest of the game went down hill from there. Despite his decent offensive night, Russ is just not a good fit for this team when we are in the half court. LeBron organizes the floor. And he finds the open man. May not always be the right guy but at least they are open. Russ does none of that. Our 3 point shooters struggled last night but part of that was because they didn’t have many clean looks. And the 3 assists that Russ managed is unacceptable with LeBron out. Malik was the guy setting up AD with 5 assists. Throw in Russ’s wild turns overs, whether it’s a very bad pass or dribbling into 3 defenders, it’s clear Russ is not the guy to carry the load with a star out.

    Our defense was good enough to win this game. Considering the way Embid was playing, 26 on 9 for 20 was good effort. Harris had 23 but that wasn’t a back breaker. 105 over all was okay. Our offense just has to be better. Both Austin and THT are slumping which hurts. I would like to see Wayne get a little run every game. As a shooter, it’s just asking a lot of him to come in after not playing for long stretches of games and expect him to be sharp.I’ve seen enough from Malik and Melo that I’m not too concerned by an off night.

    If there is any silver lining it’s that when I looked at this road trip I actually had at 2 and 2 at this point, thinking they would beat the Hornets and Hawks with AD back. But the Hornets are a good team and the Hawks are on a 5 game winning streak. Hopefully LeBron will be back, because it will be tough without him.

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    Free agent competition

    Aloha

    Tim Hardaway jr broke his foot and Derek Jones jr broke his finger, both are expected to miss a considerable amount of time, if they even come back this year. So both the Mavs and Bulls will be looking for help. Especially the Bulls who have already lost Lonzo and Alex to surgery. If we have interest in guys like Holiday or Kenrich Williams we better act.

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    • Actually that should have read trade competition

      • Michael, double click the title of the article to go to the landing page.
        Then click Edit Post at top and you can change or correct title or body.
        That’s how I fixed it. You should have the ability to do that. Please check and confirm.

        You should also be able to edit comments by clicking the edit button.
        Thanks.

    • Lakers should make move for both players.

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    Dan Woike
    @DanWoikeSports
    Source confirms Stanley Johnson will sign for the rest of the 2021-22 season with a team option for next year. Lakers keep a young, athletic defender who has 100 percent earned his spot on the roster

    Great news!

    Dan Woike
    @DanWoikeSports
    Source confirms Stanley Johnson will sign for the rest of the 2021-22 season with a team option for next year. Lakers keep a young, athletic defender who has 100 percent earned his spot on the roster

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      • Smart move by Lakers and Stanley. Next move is use 2 of the three picks from Russ deal to move DJ and either Baze or Ellington to the Pacers for Justin Holiday. And talk about including Myles Turner for THT, Nunn, and the pick. We get Turner and Holiday, a 3&D wing and big.

    • Awesome stuff, glad he’s back in the NBA and we’ve needed him more than I think anyone…including Rob Pelinka…realized.

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    Aloha,

    While it was clear that this team still has a lot of work to do, with AD back we caught a glimpse of what this team can be going forward. Having AD back changes everything. Yes he was naturally rusty. He needs to get his wind, legs and timing back but just having him in the middle was a game changer. Besides the 4 blocks and multiple altered shots, he turned a lot of guys away from me he rim and seamlessly was able to switch everything. He challenged several 3 point attempts that helped hold the Nets to only 27% from 3. A few other thoughts.

    LeBron continues to amaze on offense but he is still impacting the game on defense. He demonstrated again why I’m against adding another center like Turner. His days of being able to defend wings and 3’s on a consistent level are past him. But when he plays the 4 or 5 he sits back and plays free safety with steals and off ball help. With AD back this is Lebrons best role.

    Positive effort and energy was on display most of the game. We need this every game.

    Our switching defense does allow for more offensive rebounds. But 18 offensive is ridiculous. This has to be cleaned up. Those rebounds along with Westbrooks turnovers that led to 10 points is the only reason that the Nets were able to hang around. It’s frustrating when you play blow out basketball only to give up all those 2nd chances.

    Lunch pail basketball. Austin and Stanley both put on their hard hats and went to work. Austin’s assists, rebounds and defense was a game changer. And Stanley played his usual hard nosed defense with seamless switching 1 through 5. Today is Stanley’s last day of his 10 day. They better sign this kid. Ariza didn’t see the floor because of his effort. You are not going to get that out Trevor.

    Isn’t it amazing how good things happen when you actually look for your 3 point shooters? Malik was 6 for 12, that was with 2 percentage busters that he had to take. And Melo was 3 for 7. We don’t have to trade for a 3 point shooter, we just have to utilize the ones we have.

    Malik was a +14, Austin +13 and Stanley + 10. The only old guys with pluses was Melo +15 and LeBron +10. This actually been trending this easy for awhile with our younger players having the stronger +/- If you don’t count Bazemore 3 minutes of garbage time 5 of our 9 guys were 28 and younger. That mix of of young and old is what this team needs to employ going forward.

    A lot of work to do

    Aloha,

    While it was clear that this team still has a lot of work to do, with AD back we caught a glimpse of what this team can be going forward. Having AD back changes everything. Yes he was naturally rusty. He needs to get his wind, legs and timing back but just having him in the middle was a game changer. Besides the 4 blocks and multiple altered shots, he turned a lot of guys away from me he rim and seamlessly was able to switch everything. He challenged several 3 point attempts that helped hold the Nets to only 27% from 3. A few other thoughts.

    LeBron continues to amaze on offense but he is still impacting the game on defense. He demonstrated again why I’m against adding another center like Turner. His days of being able to defend wings and 3’s on a consistent level are past him. But when he plays the 4 or 5 he sits back and plays free safety with steals and off ball help. With AD back this is Lebrons best role.

    Positive effort and energy was on display most of the game. We need this every game.

    Our switching defense does allow for more offensive rebounds. But 18 offensive is ridiculous. This has to be cleaned up. Those rebounds along with Westbrooks turnovers that led to 10 points is the only reason that the Nets were able to hang around. It’s frustrating when you play blow out basketball only to give up all those 2nd chances.

    Lunch pail basketball. Austin and Stanley both put on their hard hats and went to work. Austin’s assists, rebounds and defense was a game changer. And Stanley played his usual hard nosed defense with seamless switching 1 through 5. Today is Stanley’s last day of his 10 day. They better sign this kid. Ariza didn’t see the floor because of his effort. You are not going to get that out Trevor.

    Isn’t it amazing how good things happen when you actually look for your 3 point shooters? Malik was 6 for 12, that was with 2 percentage busters that he had to take. And Melo was 3 for 7. We don’t have to trade for a 3 point shooter, we just have to utilize the ones we have.

    Malik was a +14, Austin +13 and Stanley + 10. The only old guys with pluses was Melo +15 and LeBron +10. This actually been trending this easy for awhile with our younger players having the stronger +/- If you don’t count Bazemore 3 minutes of garbage time 5 of our 9 guys were 28 and younger. That mix of of young and old is what this team needs to employ going forward.

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    • Great post. I think Austin’s shot has hit the rookie wall but his overall game has not. I wouldn’t trade Austin or Monk for anyone but a game-changer whom the team intends to keep. The mix of young and old in all our line ups is the key going forward, though.

    • Aloha and Mahalo, Michael.

      Spot on post. This Lakers team is like lethal memory that’s faded so much you can only see the outlines. Last night, there were solid periods where the vision could actually be seen. LeBron’s offense, AD’s defense, Malik’s stroke, Reaves intangibles. Like a ghost ship floating invisibly in the harbor slowly taking potential championship form and dimension.

      I agree with you about LeBron at the 4/5 being LeBron’s best defensive role. He is so engaged when he plays the five. Frankly, his best position as well as AD’s best position is probably the five. LeBron is like a middle linebacker or free safety viewing the play and deciding where best to blow it up. Those back-to-back steals yesterday were killers. I love LeBron at the five.

      But that doesn’t deter me from wanting to trade for Myles Turner. While trading for Turner could result in LeBron playing fewer minutes at the five, I think that can be adjusted by having LeBron play the five in certain matchups with AD staying at the four. Who plays the five should be matchup oriented.

      Tomorrow night we go up against the 76ers and Joel Embiid. Who do you think would be a better starting matchup for Embiid? I might even see Frank start Dwight rather than AD because of the size and weight issue. But Turner would be the best option. With AD and LeBron helping when needed. They’re both better shot blockers as help defenders anyway. And we can still play 5-out as Myles can stretch fhe floor.

      What Turner brings is a true stretch five who wants to shoot more from outside. He is the player that would enable the Lakers to matchup with any team. He’s the answer to teams that have Nikola Jokic or Joel Embiid at center. Yes, we can probably scramble and find ways to make up for our lack of size. Why not just address the issue. Lakers won in the past because they had great size at every position and played small. Small ball on steroids. With Turner, we will never lose the rebounds or points in the paint battles and can play five-out centerless basketball 48 mpg.

      In the end, I believe in being able to play any styles or matchup against any opponent is a huge edge. The Lakers have too few assets to add a bigger 3&D wing and stretch five rim-protecting center. Myles Turner would solve the Lakers philosophic dysfunction over the center position and force the Lakers into the modern NBA. Lakers would have an elite shot blocker putting a lid on the basket 48 minutes of each game.

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    Aloha,

    While Frank is under a lot of heat, some of it well deserved, I still look at Rob as the biggest culprit, outside of injuries for our poor play. We run a LeBron centric offense. And in a LeBron centric offense the goal is to find the open man. When it’s Melo, Malik, Wayne or even Avery, great. But it’s often Russ, THT, Trevor and Austin. Not so great. LeBron centric offenses never feature volume 3 point shooters. I was not in favor of the Buddy trade because of this and was foolish to believe this would change this year when we brought in shooters this year. Also thinking that Russ would change the approach was wrong headed as well. Rob should have known this, I mean I did and I’m just a lowly blogger.

    What makes LeBron centric line ups work is defense. Rob should have know this as well but our defense was traded away or let walk. When you look at our guard play, the best rated defense is Bazemore and Russ at around 110 and it goes down from there bottoming out with Austin at 114. Now it has hurt not having AD in the middle because everyone gets beat in the NBA but we were without him for long stretch last year and still were able to maintain that number one rated defense. Rob never took any of this into consideration when he traded for Russ.

    So what can be done. Well of AD coming back will be huge but it won’t matter without us playing harder as a team.

    I don’t think we we will be able to land any meaningful players with our assets. because of the play in tournament and the decreased odds of landing a top 3 pick, there are very few names on the market and a lot of competition for the names from teams with more to offer. As far as the buy out market, I’m not hearing any rumors at all about who will be let go. In past years one already had an idea about several players.

    The good news is we have an opportunity to add two impact players. The first is Stanley. He MUST be offered that 15 roster spot. If a trade or a buyout player surfaces, we a couple of guys we can cut. If Jeanie is worried about the tax then she will be just as responsible as Rob and Frank.

    You also have to look at Nunn as a mid season acquisition. He was a big part of the plan coming into the season. He defends and he is a 3 level scorer. All Nunn has to do is play as well as he has in the past., he doesn’t even need to improve. A starting line up with LeBron, Russ, AD, Stanley and Nunn give us a younger more athletic starting 5 and upgrades our defense, which is a must with a LeBron centric offEnse. Our bench would also have a mix of youth and vets with a lot of fire power in Malik and Melo.

    This is what continues to give me a little hope. Hopefully the front office won’t blow it and Frank will realize that we have played some of our best ball with the kids and not stubbornly give some of vets more minutes then they deserve.

    Rob or Frank?

    Aloha,

    While Frank is under a lot of heat, some of it well deserved, I still look at Rob as the biggest culprit, outside of injuries for our poor play. We run a LeBron centric offense. And in a LeBron centric offense the goal is to find the open man. When it’s Melo, Malik, Wayne or even Avery, great. But it’s often Russ, THT, Trevor and Austin. Not so great. LeBron centric offenses never feature volume 3 point shooters. I was not in favor of the Buddy trade because of this and was foolish to believe this would change this year when we brought in shooters this year. Also thinking that Russ would change the approach was wrong headed as well. Rob should have known this, I mean I did and I’m just a lowly blogger.

    What makes LeBron centric line ups work is defense. Rob should have know this as well but our defense was traded away or let walk. When you look at our guard play, the best rated defense is Bazemore and Russ at around 110 and it goes down from there bottoming out with Austin at 114. Now it has hurt not having AD in the middle because everyone gets beat in the NBA but we were without him for long stretch last year and still were able to maintain that number one rated defense. Rob never took any of this into consideration when he traded for Russ.

    So what can be done. Well of AD coming back will be huge but it won’t matter without us playing harder as a team.

    I don’t think we we will be able to land any meaningful players with our assets. because of the play in tournament and the decreased odds of landing a top 3 pick, there are very few names on the market and a lot of competition for the names from teams with more to offer. As far as the buy out market, I’m not hearing any rumors at all about who will be let go. In past years one already had an idea about several players.

    The good news is we have an opportunity to add two impact players. The first is Stanley. He MUST be offered that 15 roster spot. If a trade or a buyout player surfaces, we a couple of guys we can cut. If Jeanie is worried about the tax then she will be just as responsible as Rob and Frank.

    You also have to look at Nunn as a mid season acquisition. He was a big part of the plan coming into the season. He defends and he is a 3 level scorer. All Nunn has to do is play as well as he has in the past., he doesn’t even need to improve. A starting line up with LeBron, Russ, AD, Stanley and Nunn give us a younger more athletic starting 5 and upgrades our defense, which is a must with a LeBron centric offEnse. Our bench would also have a mix of youth and vets with a lot of fire power in Malik and Melo.

    This is what continues to give me a little hope. Hopefully the front office won’t blow it and Frank will realize that we have played some of our best ball with the kids and not stubbornly give some of vets more minutes then they deserve.

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    • “What makes LeBron centric line ups work is defense. Rob should have know this as well but our defense was traded away or let walk.” This 100%. It’s why I’m far less concerned about getting a shooter/scorer and would much rather see an elite defender come back in a trade.

      I’d love to see us do THT and Reaves/Monk and 1st rounder for Marcus Smart, for instance. I’d do a deal THT for Caruso straight up. I would really kick the tires on a Gary Trent Jr. for THT, Monk (Raptors would have cap space to keep him), filler and 1st rounder.

      Hard for me to see any of those happening though. THT has been underwhelming, those teams are more “retool” than “rebuild” and really only teams with cap space can retain Monk if he keeps up his level of play. Our pick might as well be in another dimension it’s so far out there. Reaves is the one cost-controlled player of impact and youth that we have, hard for me to trade him and I also think he might need to be added to a potential Russ deal this summer when that becomes even possible.

      • I think unless we can land a star, the Lakers stand pat Jamie. There was a reason the team was excited to land Nunn. He’s a very good player on both sides of the ball. Of course they offered him for Grant. That makes sense but I think they will see what he can bring to the table before trading for a lesser player.

        • I don’t see GT Jr. or Marcus as lesser than Jerami Grant. If anything I think both those guys fit better into the kind of team Frank likes to coach than Grant does.

          However, I also expect us to stand pat until the summer.

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    Aloha,

    Well I posted before the game that if we came out with the same energy that we did against the Magic, we would lose. We gave up 69 points in that first half. You can’t do that against a good team. And we did. We played some defense in the 2nd half and only gave up 44 but it was too little to late. Just a few thoughts:

    Shooting 28% from 3 is never good. And the Heat shot 45% but that only translated into 4 more 3’s. But the problem was that we shot 40 3’s 7 more then the Heat. That was the killer.

    But the even more telling stat to me was assists. The Heat had 30 to our 20. LeBron and Russ combined for 13 assists while Butler had 12 by himself.

    I wonder what our record is when LeBron shoots a lot of 3’s and misses. Sure he scored 33 but was 1 for 8 from 3 and just 4 assists. It hurts us when LeBron settles that much from 3.

    Trevor looks washed.. 0 from 5 from 3 and 4 turnovers in just 15 minutes. And it would be different if he was playing lock down defense. He’s not. I wouldn’t be surprised if improved some but Stanley is playing so much better. And he brings young legs to the party.

    I did love the comeback. We were down by 23 with 9 minutes to go when THT and Stanley game in. Along with Avery They both played terrific defense, they tag teamed Butler who only managed two free throws and no assists in those last 9 minutes. Both Bradley and THT also hit big 3 point shots.

    Stanley not only continues to make a case to be signed for the rest of this year and next, but he should be starting ahead of Trevor.

    I wonder if Austin has hit the rookie wall. He really hasn’t done much on either side of the ball over the last 5 games.

    It’s a lot to ask of Wayne when you rarely play him and then put him in to hopefully hit some 3’s. He was 1 for 2 but that was 1 shot every 5 minutes he played. He’s a shooter, if you are going to put him in the game, get him shots.

    We still can have a great road trip but not if we are not going to come out with energy and play hard for the entire game.

    1st quarter meltdown

    Aloha,

    Well I posted before the game that if we came out with the same energy that we did against the Magic, we would lose. We gave up 69 points in that first half. You can’t do that against a good team. And we did. We played some defense in the 2nd half and only gave up 44 but it was too little to late. Just a few thoughts:

    Shooting 28% from 3 is never good. And the Heat shot 45% but that only translated into 4 more 3’s. But the problem was that we shot 40 3’s 7 more then the Heat. That was the killer.

    But the even more telling stat to me was assists. The Heat had 30 to our 20. LeBron and Russ combined for 13 assists while Butler had 12 by himself.

    I wonder what our record is when LeBron shoots a lot of 3’s and misses. Sure he scored 33 but was 1 for 8 from 3 and just 4 assists. It hurts us when LeBron settles that much from 3.

    Trevor looks washed.. 0 from 5 from 3 and 4 turnovers in just 15 minutes. And it would be different if he was playing lock down defense. He’s not. I wouldn’t be surprised if improved some but Stanley is playing so much better. And he brings young legs to the party.

    I did love the comeback. We were down by 23 with 9 minutes to go when THT and Stanley game in. Along with Avery They both played terrific defense, they tag teamed Butler who only managed two free throws and no assists in those last 9 minutes. Both Bradley and THT also hit big 3 point shots.

    Stanley not only continues to make a case to be signed for the rest of this year and next, but he should be starting ahead of Trevor.

    I wonder if Austin has hit the rookie wall. He really hasn’t done much on either side of the ball over the last 5 games.

    It’s a lot to ask of Wayne when you rarely play him and then put him in to hopefully hit some 3’s. He was 1 for 2 but that was 1 shot every 5 minutes he played. He’s a shooter, if you are going to put him in the game, get him shots.

    We still can have a great road trip but not if we are not going to come out with energy and play hard for the entire game.

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    • This team is nowhere near good enough for these “we’ll turn it on late!” rallies or mentality.

    • First quarter meltdown was directly because Frank Vogel started Russ, AB, LeBron, Ariza, and Dwight got the third straight game. I posted the horrible negative net ratings the last three games for this starting lineup. Yet Frank rolls them out once again. That’s it for me and Vogel.

      All you have to do to analyze this game is look at Frank Vogel’s starting lineup of Russ, AB, LeBron, Ariza, and Dwight. This is the third game in a row where we have played a starting lineup that not only cannot defend but also cannot score. We’re like a team led by a coach with no clue.

      The result last night? Team most 11 minutes on the floor with an OffRtg of 59.1, a DefRtg of 118.2, and a net rating of -59.1. The worst rated lineup and most used lineup by Frank Vogel, who now supposedly has full control of the rosters.

      The result the last two games? Team most 17 minutes on the floor with an OffRtg of 85.3, DefRtg of 108.8, and NetRtg of -23.5. Again, worst rated and most used 5-man lineup the last two games.

      The result the last three games? Team most 27 minutes on the floor with an OffRtg of 92.6, DefRtg of 101.8, and NetRtg of -9.2. Again, worst rated and most used 5-man lineup the last three games.

      Shit show job by shit show coach; At this point, I would fire Frank Vogel is he comes out with AB or TA in the starting lineup. I’ve reached the end of the line with this guy. He can’t make simple logical smart lineup decisions. This team has been lost and this season is toast.

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    Great news!

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    • Best news we could hear.

      PG: Russ
      SG: Reaves
      SF: Johnson
      PF: James
      CE: Davis

    • No more freaking excuses, Frank.
      Replace AB for Reaves.
      Replace Dwight with AD.
      Russ, Reaves, Johnson, James, and Davis.
      Lakers switch everything defense!

      • There should be huge pressure on Frank Vogel to play smart lineups. No more playing the wrong players. No more DJ/AB.
        Do it right this time or kiss your ass and Lakers job goodbye.

      • Don’t see that happening. Bradley is the starter, if AR gets hot he’ll likely finish games but Agra I’ll go with vets.

        • …Frank will go with vets. He always has and I don’t see him changing. Remember, this is the guy who wanted a lineup “etched in stone” and AB been starting for awhile now.

          • Frank needs to start looking at how his starting lineups fare. Bradley has the 15th lowest plus/minus on the team. Reaves is #1. Reaves is a better shooter and defender. He should start until we bring in a new starter via trade.

            Frank better start paying attention to players stats. AB is just a hurtful to the team as DJ was. Frank fucks this up, he should lose his job. Needs to be a better coach than he’s been. Taken way too long to make adjustments.

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    Aloha,

    Okay I must admit that I was frustrated by the end of the first half. If it weren’t for being gifted that last basket, we have been down by 10. Same ole same ole, we came out flat against a bad team. I told myself that it’s not unusual for a bad team, especially one with good young players to give a better team a tough time in the first half, so I decided to not change the channel and watch the 2nd half and I’m glad I did. For the First the first time in a while I was right. We inserted Stanley, brought the D and rode Melo’s surge. Just a few things that caught my attention.

    Stanley Johnson had a great game. Besides his solid defense he went 3 for 4 from 3 with a total of 11 points. He also had 5 boards, 2 assists, a block and a steal in 22 minutes. I don’t expect Stanley to become a volume 3 point shooter but if he can continue to knock down wide open looks, it would be huge. It was reported that as expected the Pistons turned down the Lakers trade offer. So Stanley maybe the best we can do at the forward. Unless Trevor dramatically improves, I would like to see Stanley start. We better not let him walk or I might boycott the rest of the season.

    Russ had a nice bounce back game. It seemed to me that he slowed down and was more under control then he has been for awhile.There was only a couple of boneheaded plays, like the shot on top of the backboard. He might consider giving that shot up. If he can just play under control from here on, it will be huge.

    Okay Malik got 2 three point shots today. Better then the one he got last game. I still can’t understand this at all.

    Melo had another explosion, 23 points in 17 minutes. Like I’ve said before Melo seems to either be hot or cold, doesn’t seem like anything in between.

    3rd Quarter Magic

    Aloha,

    Okay I must admit that I was frustrated by the end of the first half. If it weren’t for being gifted that last basket, we have been down by 10. Same ole same ole, we came out flat against a bad team. I told myself that it’s not unusual for a bad team, especially one with good young players to give a better team a tough time in the first half, so I decided to not change the channel and watch the 2nd half and I’m glad I did. For the First the first time in a while I was right. We inserted Stanley, brought the D and rode Melo’s surge. Just a few things that caught my attention.

    Stanley Johnson had a great game. Besides his solid defense he went 3 for 4 from 3 with a total of 11 points. He also had 5 boards, 2 assists, a block and a steal in 22 minutes. I don’t expect Stanley to become a volume 3 point shooter but if he can continue to knock down wide open looks, it would be huge. It was reported that as expected the Pistons turned down the Lakers trade offer. So Stanley maybe the best we can do at the forward. Unless Trevor dramatically improves, I would like to see Stanley start. We better not let him walk or I might boycott the rest of the season.

    Russ had a nice bounce back game. It seemed to me that he slowed down and was more under control then he has been for awhile.There was only a couple of boneheaded plays, like the shot on top of the backboard. He might consider giving that shot up. If he can just play under control from here on, it will be huge.

    Okay Malik got 2 three point shots today. Better then the one he got last game. I still can’t understand this at all.

    Melo had another explosion, 23 points in 17 minutes. Like I’ve said before Melo seems to either be hot or cold, doesn’t seem like anything in between.

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    • Aloha, Michael,

      Yeah, it was tough watching the first half. Much better job in the second half. Lakers finished first half with 96.4 OffRtg, 108.8 DefRtg, and -12.3 NetRtg. Second half was 129.2 OffRtg, 87.8 DefRtg, and +41.4 NetRtg. Game was 111.5 OffRtg, 99.1 DefRtg, and 12.5 NetRtg.

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    Aloha

    We sucked against the Pacers but not as bad as the Warriors. Pacers just beat the Warriors without LeVert, Brogdon or Sabonis. 😂

    Wow

    Aloha

    We sucked against the Pacers but not as bad as the Warriors. Pacers just beat the Warriors without LeVert, Brogdon or Sabonis. 😂

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    Aloha

    Looking at our next 7 games, there are several crucial games.

    Must wins
    Magic
    Nets (no Durant or Irving)
    Hawks
    Trail Blazers

    One upset win from remaining teams
    Heat
    Hornets
    76ers

    That would be 5 and 2 and would go a long way in righting the ship. AD could be back for the 76ers or Hornets. That could help get that extra win.

    Must Wins

    Aloha

    Looking at our next 7 games, there are several crucial games.

    Must wins
    Magic
    Nets (no Durant or Irving)
    Hawks
    Trail Blazers

    One upset win from remaining teams
    Heat
    Hornets
    76ers

    That would be 5 and 2 and would go a long way in righting the ship. AD could be back for the 76ers or Hornets. That could help get that extra win.

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    • Good to see some positivity, Michael. We absolutely need to go at least 4-3 and 5-2 would be great considering the competition.

      No doubt this will be Frank Vogel’s biggest road trip of his career as an NBA head coach. Good luck, Frank.

    • You’re right Buba. We have to go out and play like it’s the finals every game.

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    Aloha

    I’m going to keep this short. We still suck. We are not going to win many games when our superstars are -20 (LeBron) and -18 (Russ).

    LeBron looked tired in the 2nd half. 1-4 from 3 and 4 for 12 overall. And one of those makes was an uncontested lay up wit 3 seconds left.

    It was nice to see Russ knock down some 3’s but my goodness he was 1 for 11 inside the arch and 1 for 9 in the paint. He only had 1 turnovers but only 3 assists and a couple of boards. Along with poor defense. Buba was right when he pointed out that Russ has been less effective since cutting down on his turnovers.

    How can Malik play 28 minutes and they only find him for 0ne 3? Sorry but that on the coaching staff. A scorer like Malik should get more then 6 shots in 28 minutes. Another example of why I have never believed that a volume 3 point shooter could help this team. They don’t look for shooters unless it’s maybe Melo who was odor 5 from 3.

    The bright spot was THT who has quietly been putting together a decent month. He had 20 and a team high 7 assists.in 25 minutes. He was also a +12 for the game. It will never happen but Frank should start THT at PG. he would do a better job than Russ. One last thought. On a night where we were killed in the paint and on the boards, Dwight got 13 minutes. He had 7 boards in his run. The first was the only quarter we won and it happened to be the quarter where he got most of his minutes. Again Frank failed to make proper in game adjustments, with the exception of sitting Russ in the 4th because he was killing us. The Pacers out scored us 14 to 6 in the 4 minutes Russ played in the 4th.

    This road trip could be brutal. Somehow we will have to pull it together and at least break even. Right now I don’t know if they can.

    Short

    Aloha

    I’m going to keep this short. We still suck. We are not going to win many games when our superstars are -20 (LeBron) and -18 (Russ).

    LeBron looked tired in the 2nd half. 1-4 from 3 and 4 for 12 overall. And one of those makes was an uncontested lay up wit 3 seconds left.

    It was nice to see Russ knock down some 3’s but my goodness he was 1 for 11 inside the arch and 1 for 9 in the paint. He only had 1 turnovers but only 3 assists and a couple of boards. Along with poor defense. Buba was right when he pointed out that Russ has been less effective since cutting down on his turnovers.

    How can Malik play 28 minutes and they only find him for 0ne 3? Sorry but that on the coaching staff. A scorer like Malik should get more then 6 shots in 28 minutes. Another example of why I have never believed that a volume 3 point shooter could help this team. They don’t look for shooters unless it’s maybe Melo who was odor 5 from 3.

    The bright spot was THT who has quietly been putting together a decent month. He had 20 and a team high 7 assists.in 25 minutes. He was also a +12 for the game. It will never happen but Frank should start THT at PG. he would do a better job than Russ. One last thought. On a night where we were killed in the paint and on the boards, Dwight got 13 minutes. He had 7 boards in his run. The first was the only quarter we won and it happened to be the quarter where he got most of his minutes. Again Frank failed to make proper in game adjustments, with the exception of sitting Russ in the 4th because he was killing us. The Pacers out scored us 14 to 6 in the 4 minutes Russ played in the 4th.

    This road trip could be brutal. Somehow we will have to pull it together and at least break even. Right now I don’t know if they can.

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    • There comes a time when a team’s ceiling and floor slowly get closer and closer together. That almost seems to be what is happening to this team right now.

      I thought there were great moments when Lakers players made great decisions and plays. In the end, there were still some very questionable lineups.

      Frank did the right thing in pulling Russ but, as always, not soon enough. We were getting killed by Russ’ nonchalant defense and erratic play. A 3 to 1 assists-to-turnovers is great but not when there are only 3 assists from your starting point guard who also shot 1 for 11 in the paint and had a team second worse -18 +/-.

    • Not this time, Stan. Lakers are Bron’s final stop and Home.

      • we our a -34 in the 4th with Russ on the floor. a +50 without him. also read that Frank was given permission to bench Russ in the 4th. thats sad when w coach has to get permission. just another example us how disfuctional this organization is.

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