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Michael H wrote a new post
Aloha
Watching the game last night I kept thinking one thing. The Warriors do not want to see the Lakers in the playoffs. The Lakers actually match up well with them. With AD and LeBron we can attack their lack of size. LeBron and AD are not going to miss that many easy shots very often. Of course AD would need to bring his aggressive A game to the game but if he did, we would have a real chance. Also the Warriors lack of rim protection allows Russ, Malik and THT to attack the paint. On defense, well there could be high scoring games. But for whatever reason Avery always plays Steph tough. I think that was why he started last night and it paid off with a good performance when he was assigned to Steph. If our young guys continue to grow over the last couple of months we are capable of giving the Warriors all they can handle.
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Then I don’t know what you are watching. I guess it’s just a coincidence that Steph scores when Avery is out and he doesn’t when he’s in. Nobody in the league keeps Steph in front of them Tom. But basic defense 101, you direct them into help. Steph kills defenses when he turns the corner on his man. He doesn’t do that to Avery. Plus part of the nothing “but noise “as you call it is to harass him at the 3 point line. I’ll take Steph going 1 for 8 from 3 any day of the week. Steph is one of the best to ever play. You can’t stop him completely only contain him and Avery did that.
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Really? OMG. It wasn’t even just Avery, the game plan with whoever was guarding him was to harass him at the 3. He wasn’t getting clean looks, that was obviously part of the game plan. Part of “the noise”
I’ve noticed that you can never give a player you don’t like props even when they play well. I mean you are propping Austin and dont get me wrong, he had a great game. THT had 17 points, 3 for 5 from 3 7 boards, 3 assists. A block and a team high +8 to Austin’s -3. But not a peep because you want THT out of the rotation. Sometimes guys just have a good game. I would rather have Malik start at the 2 but I’ll acknowledge Avery when he plays well.
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I not only praise players whom I think are playing when other should but root for them to do well. Avery made most of his shots and worked hard on defense, stole a couple of passes, and competed. He is not the great defender he once was and has problems staying in front of his man and Curry had three or four straight easy floaters on him.
THT has an excellent game. Hit his threes and played as good a defense as I’ve seen him play recently. He is obviously feeling less stress. We need to pay Monk, Reaves, and THT more minutes. Their development as players and trading chips is a key goal the rest of this season.
I still don’t get all the love and support for Frank Vogel, who has done as much as anybody to undermine the development of this team with all the time wasted on Jordan and now Bradley while Monk and Reaves get fewer minutes despite playing better by every criteria.
Frank Vogel will not return as Lakers coach. He is a lame duck coach. LeBron and AD and the entire team are not listening to him. It’s not all his fault of course but he’s the easiest thing to change right now. Lakers need to turn the season around or they will pay the price this summer. Changing coaches is the only option left.
Every game we lose where the same problems continue will bring us one day closer to Frank’s firing. Lose two or three more and the vultures will start to circle.
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As for Steph, I would not have replaced Monk with Bradley. We needed Monk’s offense badly with Melo out. While Bradley is certainly serviceable, the result when he starts is always the same: a double digit deficit.
Steph is shooting 34% from deep. Against us it wasn’t his 3-point shooting that killed us. It was allowing him to get into the paint with floaters and easy assists that killed us. We let a smaller team outscore us in the paint.
Steph was missing wide open threes, not contested threes. He was turning the corner on Bradley all game long. Avery had team’s worst defensive rating for the game.
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One last thing. The Warriors run Steph all over the court setting multiple screens to free him for 3 point shots. How often was he able to shake Avery? Not often.
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So where did I actually give Frank love and support? I did like the defensive approach to Steph. Yes he got floaters, he does against everyone, but he was shaded inside t words the help with AD and LeBron. That’s about the best you can do with a player like Steph. He’s going to score. You just have to make it as difficult as possible. As for missing wide open 3’s. Watch the game again. He was forced out of rhythm a lot. By the way the last I looked(yesterday) I believe Steph was shooting.386 from 3 for the season. Not Steph like but still pretty darn good. Oh should he have had the best defensive rating guarding Steph? Bradley draws the very toughest back court assignments because Russ can’t guard anyone. When you are playing all world players like Steph you have to have a team concept. You want him having to make floaters over AD. There isn’t a defender in the league that can stay in front of these amazing point guards. By the way, while I love your boy Austin’s potential he gets beaten off the dribble all the time. He made Ish Smith look like Steph. He had the defensive play of the game but he had to make the play because he got beaten off the dribble by Klay. Not exactly Steph quick. Austin will improve but Steph would have stole his lunch money. Just watch the game again.
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Michael H wrote a new post
Aloha,
In a season of disappointing losses, this might be at the top. We played with winning energy but couldn’t stop shooting ourselves in the foot. 10 Warriors offensive rebounds were turned into 21 points but 11 of those points came down the stretch. Those were the back breakers. And of course 11 missed free throws. We lose by 2. This happens over and over again. There was a few really bad bounces that led to some 3’s but still we need to stop beating ourself.
One might look at the stat line and think LeBron had a good game. He didn’t really. . 26 points but on 27 shots. I liked his rebounding and playmaking but his shot selection just was regrettable. 2 for 15 in the 2nd half. One thing that is maddening is LeBron gets hit without a foul being called more then any player in the league. We don’t win many games when LeBron takes 10 3’s. Some sloppy turnovers, a couple missed bunnies and missing that free throw with the game on the line. On defense he had trouble with Kuminga. I remember one sequence where LeBron watched Kuminga stroll by him of a put back 2, didn’t even try to put a body on him.
AD played a good defensive game but disappeared for the 4th game in a row on offense. We cannot win if he goes 5 for 13 and 6 for 10 from the line. He had success when he attacked but He settled far to much and missed a bunch of little jumpers. He also missed some bunnies.
I thought Russ had a good game. Yes he still missed a few layups but he only took a couple of jump shots. Had only one turnover and generally played under control, that is how we need him to play.
So how were we still in this game?
Our big 3, our 3 guys 23 and younger. Austin, THT and Malik all played with great energy on both sides of the ball. Austin’s block on Klay was the defensive play of the game. He also went 5 for 5 for 13 points. THT has been shooting much better lately. He has 17 with 3 for 5 from 3. Add in 7 boards and 3 assists. What I like is he’s not forcing anything. He also played well on D for the most part. Great game. Malik had 12 and played with some great energy. Over all the 3 kids out scored the Warriors bench 42 to 20.Have to give a shot out to Avery as well. When he was assigned to Steph, and gave him all he could handle.
So going forward, this is the way we have to play. They actually looked connected. We have to give as many minutes to the young guys as possible. I think they actually energize the vets. All 3 will make mistakes but we can win some games with their energy. It’s tough loss when you beat yourself.
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Michael H wrote a new post
Aloha
How to out out play your opponent and be down by 6, Lakers style.
Miss 6 free throws
Miss 3 layups, 2 by Russ
2 terrible unforced turnovers
3 missed 10 footers by AD
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Michael H wrote a new post
Aloha,
What has happened to the Lakers? This makes the Jim Buss years look absolutely tranquil. First Magic steps down, ripping the organization at an impromptu resignation news conference. While he didn’t name names, it’s not a stretch to believe that Rob was the target of his wrath. Notice he never mentions Rob in any of his many tweets.
Then Rob says that AD and LeBron were on board with not making a move. Then it’s leaked that they very much were not okay with standing pat. The more I watch Rob, the more I’m convinced that he’s a slime ball. It’s no secret that he’s not well liked by other GM’s around the NBA. It appears he negotiates like agent. That’s good when you are an agent but bad if you are a GM. And you can not under any circumstances lie about your stars.
Then there is Russ, in his interview yesterday he said that his back tightened up because he is not used to sitting. Just lovely.
And finally the rumor that we didn’t make a trade that would have brought in two helpful players because of luxury taxes. Nothing more appealing to a free agent than a cheap organization.
So here is the question. If you are a bought out, do you, Choose the Lakers in 9th place embroiled in all of this controversy swirling around the organization? I have my doubts that top tier candidates will choose the Lakers. And it could very well spill into free agency this summer.
Laker excellence? Hardly. The solution? Jeanie needs to clean house this summer. First step fire Rob. Will she? After all he is a FOB. (Friend of Kobe). Hopefully Magic and Kurt will educate her. Most of his moves since the championship has failed. And then all this added drama. He needs to go. Then they need a new coach. Frank has lost the ear of the team and while it’s not all his fault, this has to be done. And it has to happen this summer. We can’t wait another year. Only AD and THT are under contract in 2023. It’s a chance for the team to build something new but if the organization is still in turmoil in 2023, who will want to come?
There isn’t much that the front office and Frank can do now. I always knew that we didn’t have the assets to land a star. I knew if the season was to be salvaged it was going to be up to the players. And that’s truer now then ever. At this point I’m looking more to the future than this season. And if both can happen, great.
THT, Austin and Stanley all have shown promise but all have been inconsistent. All three should get a lot of minutes. These players develop with be so important, whether as part of next years rotation and as trade pieces.
If Russ want to get paid after next year then he needs to improve his value, because he currently has very little value. And running his mouth won’t help. If need be Frank needs to sit him. And LeBron needs to get in his face and tell him to shut the f**k up.
We are a mess, and what happens over the last 26 games will tell us a lot about whether the Lakers can turn this organization around.
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we’re finally seeing all of the dirt and dysfunction that Rob Pelinka has managed to hide over the past two years suddenly being exposed to the bright lights. Nothing has really changed. Lakers still run by a coalition of questionably qualified people in a informal mangement stand off not founded on any solid basketball philosophy or style of play criteria other than big names and big stars.
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Michael H wrote a new post
Michael Scotto
@MikeAScotto
Sources: The Lakers, Knicks and Raptors have discussed a 3-team trade.Lakers get Cam Reddish and Alec Burks.
Knicks get Goran Dragic and draft picks.
Raptors get Talen Horton-Tucker and Nerlens Noel.
Not a major earth shattering deal but This is actually bigger then I could have anticipated. I had posted about the possibility of nabbing Reddish and Burks is a good player. Love to see it happen.
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Michael H wrote a new post
Aloha
Just when you thought the Lakers couldn’t sink any lower. We have this monstrosity. The single most embarrassing loss of the year. The low point of what, the last 20 years? Enough said.
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Michael H wrote a new post
Aloha,
I have been looking at the state of the Lakers, searching for something that could turn the season around. The fan side of my brain was thinking, if we trade Russ and our 1st for Wall, and maybe find an upgrade by trading THT without a 1st attached and then luck out in the buyout market, then maybe in the next 25 games we can build chemistry and do some damage in the playoffs. The pragmatic side of my brain says, get real fan boy, you’ve watched the competition, that ain’t happening.
My pragmatic brain has won the argument. I think we have the same chance to win a ring standing pat as we would with the realistic trades we could make. Slim to none.
So I would make sure that no stupid panic moves are made and hope for the best this summer.
Right now Westbrooks trade value couldn’t be lower. Does it make sense to use that first just to move him? That Rocket deal will probably be available in the summer. If we bite the bullet and stay with Russ, he could possibly play better and increase his trade value. If he does increase his value, maybe he opts out this summer because of the humiliation of this season and signs a longer deal with another team. Unlikely but Who knows? But replacing him now with Wall really isn’t going to do a thing to win this year.
Same goes for THT. His value is low at the moment, although he has looked good at times. He’s just 21. Could he become more consistent over the last part of the season? It’s possible. Again, his value probably can only go up. By the way, doing a deal for say, Terrance Ross isn’t going to win a ring. Let THT play out the season and see if his value can increase.
Our situation could even be worse next year. It will be difficult keeping Monk who has emerged as our 3rd best player and at Melo’s age, who knows what he will do. So we will be in the same boat next year, needing to find good players. Nunn is a good player. He has a player option and because of his injury, he may have to opt in for another year. Trade him now and that’s one more good player we will have to find.
Unless there is a player that would be valuable next year as well, I don’t think I would even use any of our 2nd rounders just for a run now.
Like I said, I don’t see any of the options available to us making any real impact on this season. Every move we make in the next 24 hours should be made with an eye on this summer.
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I agree. If there’s something beyond a lateral move for THT then certainly go for it but at this point the Lakers need to be a lot smarter than they’ve been since we won the Bubble title. I can’t think of a title winning team that abandoned the team that won or the principles that guided it’s creation so quickly.
Stand pat, take the lump, learn and improve.
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Michael H wrote a new post
Aloha
Just sitting around wondering if we are ever going to come out with any energy. I knew the game was over somewhere early in the 2nd quarter. I nearly didn’t watch the 2nd half, but I wanted to see if we could find even a little bit of pride. We did in the 2nd half but of course there was just to much to over come.
While our 1st half defense sucked, bad offense fed some of that. LeBron took 5 shots. 4 from 3. As a matter of fact, most of the 1st quarter was chucking up 3’s. And over the course of the game our 16 turnovers led to 25 points. It’s hard to play shut down defense with that kind of sloppy offense.
If one looks at the stat lines, both LeBron and AD had decent stats lines but I don’t feel either had what could be good games for them. After beasting since his return, AD faded back into the wall paper until he came back, in the 4th. LeBron just wasn’t aggressive as he has been.
Russ didn’t play in the 4th quarter. That also coincided with our late comeback push. Enough said.
We did have 4 guys that played hard. Malik didn’t have a good night from 3 but like all good scorers he found other ways to score. Trevor looked old again but Stanley played with energy on both sides of the ball. Both THT and Austin both played good defense during that comeback attempt. Actually it was the young guys energy that fueled the 4th quarter run.
At this point even a huge trade probably would do no good. The energy, desire and urgency just isn’t there. It’s one thing to come out flat against a bad team like the Knicks, but if you can’t get up for the world champions, at home, you are in serious trouble and this season is as well.
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Michael H wrote a new post
Aloha,
I kind of feel sorry for Frank. He was given this roster and asked to turn it into a championship contender. The real culprits of course were Rob, LeBron and AD. It would have been a hard task to accomplish without all the injuries. With the injuries, a nearly impossible task.
Of course as we all know the Westbrook acquisition has been a disaster. First it was folly to believe that LeBron would hand the wheel over to another driver and let them run the show. LeBron will always be LeBron and will continue to do LeBron stuff until he hangs it up. What the team needed was a secondary ball handler who can score and can play well off the ball. DeRozen anyone? LeBron and AD talked with him as well. But to be fair, he was with the Spurs and we all know how much Pop loves the Lakers, so perhaps that prevented a deal from getting done.
In every post game interview we hear LeBron and others say they want Russ just to be Russ. I feel a little sorry for Russ as well because he can’t be Himself with LeBron, and this roster construction. I knew it probably wouldn’t work. No, I’m not some brilliant basketball mind. The entire basketball universe knew it wouldn’t work, except for LeBron, AD and Robb.
After the dust settled, what we had was a mishmash line up, with poorly fitting parts. Perhaps the front office had to much confidence in Frank and believed he could fashion a top ten defense out of this collection of misfit toys. Unfortunately Frank is not a miracle worker and with all of the injuries could only do so much.
So what is the solution? Trading Russ would be an answer but perhaps the only team would be Rockets. And it would cost us a 1st round pick. I’m not sure Rob will do that. Trading for Wall maybe a solid move but Wall hasn’t played and it would be a huge gamble. Besides Wall is a guard that also needs the ball in his hands to excel. Could he adjust better than Russ has? That’s the big question.
Short of a trade the ball is in Franks court now. I do believe he has managements approval to do whatever is needed to win. So Frank can begin by reducing Westbrooks minutes. He can do that in a number of ways, depending on match ups. Start him but pull him earlier for a rest, and put him back later. And don’t eat him finish unless his confidence is high and he is on a roll. The key here will be Nunn. Once he is back, he is the perfect secondary ball handler to pair with LeBron, he can both run the offense and play off the ball. He can score and most importantly he is a very good defender. Giving Nunn some of Russ’s minutes could help turn this season around. And if Nunn plays at a reasonable level, I would start him over Russ. Let Russ run the 2nd unit. Russ might actually excel against other 2nd units. I know it’s a bad look having a 44 mil player coming off the bench, but if it can lead to some wins, and playoff success, you have to do it. It’s all up to Frank.
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One of two things happened in the off-season with this Russ trade.
Either…
Rob made all these major foundational roster changes without any input from his head coach. That would be the height of stupidity if he did this without hearing a strategy from Frankie about how he could make this roster successful.Or…
Frankie WAS consulted, signed-off on it, and put forth a gameplan that has just been woefully inadequate. Whatever the case, it’s been a failure for everyone involved.My biggest misgivings about this whole thing from the start was that we brought in Russ and immediately assumed he could be convinced to just stop being RUSS. He’s just not at that point in his career where he’s gonna be easily able to do that. We point to Carmelo and how he’s changed his game but we gotta recognize that it took Melo actually being out of the league for a lil bit before he came to that realization. Russ is nowhere near that point yet. Maybe next year…but he’s just so headstrong and self-confident (which has made him a Hall of Famer btw) it’s not gonna be an easy transition.
Crazy as it sounds…this could be where we miss Earvin Johnson’s presence in the front office. And also Jason Kidd to some extent. Because who in that building has the gravitas, the rep, the respect, the freakin AURA to sit down with Russ man to man and have him take his words to heart? Frankie? Obviously no. Rob? He ain’t never played in the League. Jeannie? Kurt? Doubt it. Maybe Lebron, but that doesn’t seem to be the way he communicates with his teammates. And Russ looks at him as a peer…not an Idol.
Not sure what the solution is. And the biggest problem of all is that those in charge of fixing this mess are the same ones who created it in the first place….
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There’s no question that the silence we’ve heard from the Lakers’ front office since Pelinka took over from Magic has not been as harmonious and copacetic as advertised. More like no leaks.
The Vogel situation basically exposed the the false idea that the Lakers were an efficient organization making decisions by consensus with everybody committed to same goal and direction, with everybody on the same page, front office, coaching staff, superstars. Now we see there just as fucked up as ever. Just doing a better job keeping the shit in house.
As I write this, it strikes me that this type of organization, without strong leadership, is not what the Lakers need at critical moments like we’re in right now. This is when we miss having Dr. Buss making the decision rather than the current front office committee.
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I just find it extremely hard to believe that Frankie had no input whatsoever on what went down last summer. The storyline that this whole thing was just thrust upon him just doesn’t sound plausible. If it’s true, then we might be in even worse shape than we thought. And let’s be real about Rob. He didn’t get Lebron here…that was Magic (Lebron said so on The Shop when Earv abruptly stepped down). Rob didn’t get AD here either..that was Klutch. AD was forced to get out of his comfort zone and become the bad guy because Rob couldn’t seem to get a deal done. Whiffed on the Kyle Lowry thing as well. As for Frankie….when I think about it, has any player (past or current) heaped alotta praise on him since he’s been in LA? I think he’s a good guy and well respected around the league and in the locker room but that’s about it. I don’t think the players look at him as a difference-maker and that could be a problem….
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Excellebt post, Michael. I supported the Westbrook trade because I trusted LeBron to make this work but I think even he was unable, with the injuries, to get this to work. In retrospect, Russ was a poor fit, needs the ball too much, has poor ball security, poor shooting from everywhere, including the rim.
I’m all for addition by subtraction now but doubt the Lakers will make the necessary move, althougn it may depend on what they have available in trades come Thursday. I could see them getting a chance at Turner or Barnes or Gordon and deciding to use the pick for that rather than to move Russ. In that case, they keep Russ and bet that LeBron and AD and the new starter and less Russ will still be a championship formula.
However, if the musical chairs don’t materialize, the Lakers may decide that small deals to get more size and addition by subtraction via trading Russ to create minutes for new additions to play. Or, I guess, we could keep Russ and control his role so he doesn’t get clutch minutes unless he’s earning it. Don’t see that materializing into a playoff run unless we were also able to get some help via trading THT, Nunn, and the pick.
As for Nunn being the savior, I’ve had the same hopes at times, only to see them crushed by another report that he’s nowhere near playing. At this point, I’ll believe he’s playing when I see it. Otherwise, he’s still just trade bait for real players.
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Michael H wrote a new post
Aloha,
The Cav’s just traded for LeVert from the Pacer. They sent a 1st in this years draft, 2 2nd’s and Rubio’s contract. Like I have said before, there are not many GM’s with the kind of job security it take to wait 5 years for a draft pick to hit.
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Expiring contracts proving more valuable than usual.
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2 or 3 expiring contracts totaling 47 would be golden. One contract at 47 mil could be very problematic. Not sure there are many teams with 47 mil in deals that they want to shed.
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Only option would be Thunder if we had a couple extra picks. They could eat Russ’ contract just to get to league minimum salary so wouldn’t really cost them anything to do it.
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Michael H wrote a new post
Aloha,
Ah, there is nothing more entertaining then watching your favorite team come out with zero energy. Display no transition defense, spot the opponent 21 points in the first half, make a huge comeback, take control of the game, only to miss 6 out 7 free throws, have the game go into over time before finally pulling it out. Whew…must see TV, anyway a few thoughts.
The Knicks are not a good team. If we come out this way against the Bucks we will lose by 25.
Barrett had 36, a career night. I wonder if records are kept for players that have career nights against the Lakers. Seems like there is a new guy every game that has a career game against the Lakers.
I bet the Knicks are on the phone right now trying to work a trade for Russ to come and energize their team. 😂
Russ is not a good player right now. Russ deserved to be benched. When Nunn comes back would Frank dare to bring Russ off the bench? At least cut his minutes down until he works through whatever it is he is going through.Now the good. We may have a big 3. LeBron, AD and Monk were sensational. It was a great move starting Monk at the 2. This is 3rd star level play. We may miss his offense with the 2nd unit but it’s with proper rotations he can get some time with the 2nd unit.
Currently AD is the best center in the NBA. 28 points, 17 rebounds, 4 blocks, 3 steals. If he can sustain this level of play we always have a chance.
LeBron isn’t human. Coming in after missing 5 games and dominates. He continues to amaze.
THT has taken a lot of heat lately. While he didn’t contribute much on offense, he played great defense and had a team high +22 to show for it. He was especially effective in OT.
Trevor, another player who had been maligned also stepped up nicely with some solid D. This is the 2nd game in a row that he has looked decent on D. Hopefully he is finally finding his legs and getting back into game shape.
The Lakers are now only 3 games out of the 6th spot, and 4 1/2 out of the 5th spot. There is still time to make a move out of the play in round. But if we don’t come out with the proper energy, it will be hard to achieve. Hopefully playing the Bucks will light a fire under them and we come out swinging.
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Aloha, Michael,
Great post and great job balancing the continuing issues with the things were the silver linings in last night’s big win. This game was an absolute microcosm of the Lakers’ season. They played maybe their worst half of the season followed by maybe their best half of the season, ignoring the last 2 minutes they choked. At any rate, some gems to be happy about.
1. Two stars for Frank Vogel. First, finally pulling Bradley out of the starting lineup and reducing his minutes and second, pulling Russ out of the lineup for OT, sending a clear message to Russ that subpar play, missing critical free-throws, and playing lackadaisical defense will not fly. I was screaming at the TV for Frank to bench Russ in OT and thank God, Frank actually did exactly that. Thank you, Frank.
2. Time to trade Russ. Frank made a huge gamble by replacing Russ with THT, who had the best plus/minus for regulation. If THT had not played well and the Lakers lost, it might have been Frank who was in trouble last night. But THT played excellent defense in OT and the Lakers dominated and finally looked like a team. Russ must go. Addition by Subtraction. Give up that first. Better now than waiting for summer.
3. The new Lakers Big Three. Everything we do this midseason and next summer has to be aimed at re-signing Malik Monk, who is clearly a better fit as the Lakers’ third start. Malik may not have Kyrie’s amazing handle, but he’s a legitimate three-level NBA scorer and the the Lakers top priority has to be moving Russ to they can keep Malik. Without Russ, Lakers can give Malik 3-years and $30M. If they keep Russ, Monk is gone.
4. Bubble LeBron and AD. If anything is critical to the Lakers’ chances of winning #18 this season, it’s having a healthy, thriving, and rested LeBron James and Anthony Davis. If we have that, we always will have a legitimate shot at winning everything. Lebron 29/13/10 and AD 28/17/3. When LeBron and AD play like that, the Lakers will be hard to beat
5. Kendrick Nunn point guard? Hoping the news that Nunn may soon be ready to play could be important. Nows the time to see if Nunn can be the difference maker we were hoping for and maybe a way to delute the negativity that seems hang over this team with Russ in the lineup. I like your idea of Russ coming off the bench if he can’t be a starter but think the Lakers need to cut the chord right now. Use the pick, addition by subtraction.
6. Everybody but Westbrook, Jordan, Bradley, and Johnson had positive plus/minus ratings for the game. Lakers need to somehow get another starter (Gordon, Turner, Williams?), hopefully by trading THT and the pick. Time to move Jordan, Bazemore, Howard, and Bradley and add players who still can impact the game and give us consistency.
7. Zero free throws for LeBron. The anti-Lakers refereeing has become prevalent. The league needs to do something about how LeBron is being disrespected by the zebras while guys like Harden and Embiid get 10 free throws per night regularly to pump up their points per game. LeBron attacks the rim more than any other player in the league and has the lowest free throw rate. Where is the justice here?
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Michael H wrote a new post
Aloha,
Just now recovering from the Clippers loss. That was a hard one to take because it was a winnable game without LeBron. And we don’t have many more of those coming up.
The good news was we stormed back from 17 down. The bad news was we played inconsistent basketball yet again for 3 quarters and stunk up the place in the 3rd…again.
The good news was we held the Clippers to 17 in the 4th. The bad news was 7 of those points came in the last 50 seconds.
The good news was that Russ led that 4th quarter push. The bad news was he helped build that deficit through the first 3 quarters with only a couple of points and assists and his usual suspect defense.
The good news is we got a very good performance from our bench. We finally saw Trevor who was a plus 14 play the kind of defense we had hoped to see. The bad news is Melo went down with an injury, removing our best 2nd unit scoring option.
The good news is we shot 25 free throws to the Clippers 11. The bad news is we missed 8 and lost by 1.
The good news is AD played like the best center in the league again. The bad news is we waisted the effort with the same old mistakes that we repeat over and over again.
My glass half full spilled over a couple of weeks ago and it’s now bone dry. I don’t think we can make a big time trade and honestly I’m not sure if any of the big names on the trade market would translate into a championship. As for the buyout market, there hasn’t been a whisper of who might be available. There are just so many teams still in the hunt for a play in slot, that there may not be many vets that are bought out.
So can anything be done? I guess you can never say never. Of course nothing can happen without health. But beyond that health a few things need to happen.
I think it’s important to land one more player. I would look at Kenrich Williams. A vastly underpaid 3 and D guy that could bolster our SF rotation. And he’s under contract for another year that would be golden for a cap strapped team like the Lakers. The Pacers Holiday would be also a good addition. Another 3 and d guy that can defend both wing positions. Unfortunately he’s not vaccinated and I doubt anyone trades for him unless he does. Both guys can be had for draft picks and filler.
I look at Nunn as a major add to the rotation. He is ramping up again and with the all star break coming up I think he could be good to go down the stretch. I believe he was the guy that was going to be starting in Bradley’s spot before the injury. He will be an upgrade over Avery in every conceivable area. His return will be better than just about any realistic trade we can make.
THT and Austin both need to find more consistency. Both are young and will continue to make mistakes but it would be helpful if they can cut down on them. Both need more consistent offense. On defense it would be great if THT could become more like Austin in team defense schemes and it would be great if Austin to get a little bit more like THT on ball because quick guards blow by him a lot.
Trevor and Stanley. Trevor is simple. Show us that defense you showed against the Clippers. As for Stanley, raise your 3 point % to at least 35/36%. He maybe our best point of attack defender but he’s been wasted a bit at the 4 and 5 where he is a bit undersized. LeBron coming back allows Stanley to take on big wing and that’s what we need the most.
Can we find a small role for Wayne? We still need 3 point shooting and it’s asking a lot to sit him for 4 or 5 games then expect him to come in and hit shots. If not, trade him. He’s maybe the only one of our bench sitters that could bring at least a pick back. A lot of teams need shooting.
If we had a few more wins under our belts I would say, hold LeBron out until after the break but we are not in the position to do that. We will probably rest him today but it’s important that he’s back after that. Every single game is precious. As for the all star game, I wish he wouldn’t play but if he does I hope it’s just a token appearance.
The last piece of good news is the all star break will give this team some practice time. This is important considering we haven’t had anytime to do so with all of our players available. We won’t have a lot of games left to find a rhythm as team so the break will be extremely important.
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Good assessment, Michael. I’m hoping we can still trade THT and Nunn. I especially do not want to see Talen waste any more possessions. Add one player and he should be the current player to go out of the rotation. Can’t deliver at either end of the court. Should have been traded last year in another Pelinka brain fart.
The Lakers need to get creative and find a trading partner who can give them players to help right now. I have zero faith in THT or Nunn as players and think the absolute worst thing the Lakers could do right now is some version of stand pat. If they do that, they will miss the playoffs and handcuff themselves from upgrading the team this summer.
Moves made now to free up options this summer is maybe more important than making the playoffs right now. Lakers are screwed and have nobody to blame but themselves, especially if they leave themselves in this same dumb situation this summer.
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Why Nunn Tom? Looks like he is ready to come back. He was productive with the Heat, he was the talk of trading camp and was considered one of the steals of free agency. He could be as big of an addition as any realistic trade options available. He also will definitely replace Avery in the starting lineup at some point.
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LOL. One day, Nunn is worthless. The next day he’s your savior. I’ve always been tempted to keep Nunn because I tend to see him as a good fit for what we need. And there’s a good chance we might be able to keep him. However, I wouldn’t hesitate to trade him for more size and depth at small forward.
I feel the completely opposite about not trading THT. I woiuld trade him for the best we could get right now, even if that were only Muscala and Williams. All THT does is screw up every lineup Frank puts him in with his predictable poor shooting and defense. Guy almost never anticipates where his defender wants to go and has zero abiliity to stop or stay in front of his man.
He and Avery Bradley both need to go or Frank Vogel will play them until we lose in the playin or first or second round. They’re both players who do not belong in a championship team’s rotation. They’re why Frank Vogel should be fired tomorrow and Handy given the team.
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Again, words in my mouth. Lol. When have I ever once said Nunn is worthless? I said he isn’t going to get us a big name. He is a free agent this summer. And a package of him and THT can’t complete with some of the other packages. I’ve always maintained he’s a very good player and over and over and over have said he could be a big addition once he’s back.
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Nevertheless, Nunn alone is not going to bring back a player worth the TP MLE. Combine that with his injury status and he is considered to be the least valuable of our three trading chips. Your opinion from the beginning has been that none of our trading chips were valuable and it appears you may be right.
Since he is reportedly been upgraded to game time decision tonight, maybe we’ll see first hand. Lakers would be smart tonight to just rest LeBron and AD and let THT and Nunn and Russ start and hope they play so well the Knicks will want to trade for them.
Love to see Russ, Monk, LeBron, Johnson, and AD tonight but we all know Frank’s boyfriend AB will start again no matter how poorly he has played or how terrible his stats are for the season. By the time the deadline comes, THT will have played himself completely out of the Lakers’ rotation and become more untradeable than Russ.
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Tom you’ve been as much a proponent of Nunn and his ability to help grease a big trade as anyone, lol. Not trying to stir the pot but he’s been among the Calvary Lakers in print and on podcasts. I’m amazed he could just come out of the woodwork like this…feels odd to me. This whole season has rubbed me the wrong way from the summer to now though so I may not be the best one to have an unbiased viewpoint.
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Michael H wrote a new post
Aloha,
The disaster of this season keeps rolling along when even some wins feel like losses. This is one of those games. Last night the Lakers wasted what was a solid defensive effort with our same old demons. We took a big lead and then rolled over in the 2nd quarter. 16 turnovers led to 24 Blazer points. We turned the blazers over 12 times for one point. Then there was 18 offensive rebounds we gave up. And in the spirit of keeping the game interesting we missed 7 free throws down the stretch that allowed the Blazers heartbeat to stay alive. Another game. Same issues. On a night when offense eluded most of our players it could have been another devastating loss. Against a better team, it would have been.
AD was a monster. 30 points 15 boards and 3 blocks. Even when healthy AD has been an enigma this year. He outplayed Embid and had this kind of game against another solid center. But there have been games where you hardly notice him. He has to be monster AD for the rest of the year for us to even have a chance.
Melo had another solid game. If it wasn’t for his offense it wouldn’t have mattered what AD did. But we don’t get this Melo constantly either. I’ve said before he has been either hot or cold we little in between. We we will need more of these games moving forward.
We have 3 more winnable games without LeBron coming up and 3 tough ones before the all star break. The Clippers and Knicks are the next 2. I’m not sure when LeBron will be back. It follows a pattern of no big deal, then he misses a month. We absolutely have to win those 3 and upset at least one of the Bucks, Warriors, Jazz. The Jazz have been falling so that might be the one. Although we gave the Bucks all they could handle last time without LeBron. I’m hoping the break will allow the team some practice time that they haven’t had. Also Nunn is ramping up his work outs, so it would be great to have him ready for the stretch run. If we can put together a winning streak down the stretch the 5th and 6th seed are not out of reach. But it will never happen with games like last night.
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Michael H wrote a new post
Aloha
In the spirit of Tom’s trade hunting, I’ve come up a plan to land KD! Kidding but looking at team needs I have come up with a possibility. The Cav’s biggest need is shooting at the 2 and perhaps another secondary ball handler as well. We know that they have their sights set on Gordon and LeVert but so do other teams. If they fail to land a big name how about Ellington and THT for Cedi Osman. I would even throw in a 2nd rounder. Ellington gives them some 3 point shooting and THT gives another ball handler with play making ability. Gives us a 6’ 7” small forward who can defend a little and score a little as well. Since the Cav’s went with their jumbo line up, he’s been coming off the bench. He could actually start for the Lakers.
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They would probably have send maybe Ed Davis to as well. He’s only played in 15 games and only about 8 minutes a game. We could cut him or keeps him. He probably would be more useful than DJ.
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Aloha, MIchael,
The Lakers will find takers for THT and probably Nunn and the pick. It makes zero sense to keep him as he fills no needed role on the team and would be a DNP if and when Nunn comes back.
They may not get what I would hope for but there are many deals out there where the Lakers would be a better team as a result. Lakers are desperate so it will be interesting to see what they do.
I think Osman is a perfect example of player who would make sense for the Lakers but I still see those as backup moves that you consider once your higher priorities don’t come through.
Right now, it looks like anything big or small that’s going to happen is likely to happen right before the deadline. Unlike other trade deadlines, there doesn’t seem to be any one player or trade that’s the domino to open the flood gates.
I do think there will be lots of action, however, because they’re are so many more buyers.
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Michael H wrote a new post
Aloha,
I seriously am not expecting the Lakers to be able to pull off a significant trade this season, primarily because THT is the center piece for any major trade. I personally believe that THT has real potential and he has flashed it from time to time. But his inconsistency is not that appealing right now for sure. But there is a secondary issues that’s not brought up by anyone on the blog. Okay, not brought up by Tom, since no one else thinks we can trade him for a star either 😂 THT has a player option for the 2023 season. Call it the Rich Paul effect. If THT does take a big step forward next year, can a rebuilding team that is several years away from contending keep him? Or would he walk to a win now organization? That is something that GM’s will consider. A 2027 1st rounder and a inconsistent player that can be gone in 2023, along with another player that hasn’t played and can walk this summer isn’t exactly a strong package.
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LOL. You do realize that there are 29 general managers out there and the chances that they all agree with your bottom feeder assessment of the value of THT, Nunn, and the 2027 pick are slim and none. Teams will tell themselves that THT is just a poor fit on the Lakers and they’re probably right. Teams will tell themselves, just as you yourself did, what a steal Nunn could be since he’s undervalued due to not having played. Predicting who is worth whom on the trade market is just speculation until the trade is finalized.
There’s reasons why players are on the trade market and there are always surprises and differences of opinion on what players are worth or who won a specific trade. It’s Pelinka’s job to find the right players to target and put together packages that have a shot a getting that player. Anybody who thinks its science is crazy. It’s more about the art of the deal. I think there a trades Rob can make that we win, come out even, and even lose but will result in the team being a better team. It’s all about the synergy of the pieces once the puzzle has been put together.
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Bottom line, Lakers will move THT because he is not a good fit on this team and moving him for whatever turns out to be the best we can is what is needed to be done right now. Keeping him would only exacerbate what’s already too many guards and not enough minutes.
Lakers need to move THT, Nunn, and the pick for the best starter they can get to go with their superstar big three. Keeping THT would only hurt the Lakers rotations. chances they would keep the pick or Nunn are much higher. Just no reason to keep THT.
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Lol. The consensus around the league, appears to be we don’t have a strong package. Even the writers like Pincus with strong inside information says that a trade is unlikely, even the ones he proposed, as examples. With little inventory and stronger packages available for every name player and the those players all being under contract so there is no urgency to trade them, a GM would be foolish to take our package. I mean why would a rebuilding team even want Nunn who can walk in the summer and is already 26? The Rockets are open to trading Wood because he’s 26 and doesn’t fit their time line. With so few players on the market and no chatter on buy out candidates the competition for the few guys out there will be fierce. The Rockets want a first for Kendrich Williams for goodness sake, and the Pacers want 2 firsts for Turner, because they may get it from a team desperate for size like the Hornets. Now Joe Ingles is done for the season so even more competition for any small forwards out there. We may be able to find a small deal, like a Holiday if he got vaccinated but something big just isn’t going to happen I’m afraid. I’ll gladly eat crow if it happens, will you if it doesn’t? Lol.
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LOL. Come on, Michael. You know I’ve never had a problem admitting I’m wrong just as I’ve never been afraid to go out on a limb and support a move one way or another. Anybody who would rather be right than the Lakers do better is not a true fan in my opinion.
My objective is always to look at options to make the Lakers a better team. Unlike others, I could care less what my right or wrong score was. My goal is to create out-of-the-box thinking and analysis of what the Lakers can do to get better, including changing their roster.
Additionally, as Blog publisher, my goal is to create a smartly curated version of Lakers news to give blog members and visitors a cohesive and intelligent review of what’s going on in the Lakers universe. Many of the trades I post are not trades that I would support. If a trade is raised and it makes any sense, I will post it and discuss it. It’s why I blog.
Finally, the trade market is highly volatile and subjective. It’s also very difficult to predict of project. That scares most bloggers from taking strong positions. Or from changing those positions as events and landscape change. I never take a position that my latest opinions are final. Everything is always up for review.
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I completely disagree with you on Avery Bradley having anything to do with Steph not having a great game. Did you actually watch the game. Bradley is nothing but a lot of noise in point of attack defense. He could not keep Steph in front of him partly because he was always trying to pressure him.
The eye test is confirmed by the advanced stats. The player with the worst defensive rating on the Lakers last night was none other than Avery Bradley with a 126.8 defensive rating. You must have been wearing your Frank Vogel glasses last night. Frank’s starting lineup had a -15 net rating and played twice as many minutes as any other lineup.