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    Aloha,

    Remember how the Lakers held onto their sacred cap space while they waited for KL to make up his mind, only to lose him to the Clippers? I hope we don’t fiddle around working on getting Kyrie. If he decides to opt out by Wednesday. Fine problem solved. But if he ops in, the trade talks continue. As we have seen, free agents sign quickly. Hopefully we don’t waste time working on a trade for Kyrie. I think they need to go after guys as if Kyrie is not coming.

    My biggest fear

    Aloha,

    Remember how the Lakers held onto their sacred cap space while they waited for KL to make up his mind, only to lose him to the Clippers? I hope we don’t fiddle around working on getting Kyrie. If he decides to opt out by Wednesday. Fine problem solved. But if he ops in, the trade talks continue. As we have seen, free agents sign quickly. Hopefully we don’t waste time working on a trade for Kyrie. I think they need to go after guys as if Kyrie is not coming.

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    Aloha

    So the soap opera continues. The latest is that the Lakers are the only team with interest in Kyrie. There is rumblings, probably started by his agent, that he’s willing to take the Lakers MLE. If it was anyone other then Kyrie, I would say they are just blowing smoke. But Kyrie is bent so you never know. I’d take Kyrie for the MLE for sure, but I have a hard time believing that’s going to happen.

    No team likes to have talent walk for nothing. As Lakers fans we know this all to well. But if Im the Nets, I would say go ahead, opt out. The Lakers can’t do a sign and trade for him because of the hard cap. Kyrie would have to opt in for the Lakers to make a trade. And if you’re the Nets, do you really want to trade for Westbrook? If there truly is no other teams interested I don’t think Kyrie has much leverage. It has been said that the length of the contract is the issue, along with provisions about the number of games played. Given all the time he has missed that’s not unreasonable. It will be interesting to see what happens.

    Kyrie

    Aloha

    So the soap opera continues. The latest is that the Lakers are the only team with interest in Kyrie. There is rumblings, probably started by his agent, that he’s willing to take the Lakers MLE. If it was anyone other then Kyrie, I would say they are just blowing smoke. But Kyrie is bent so you never know. I’d take Kyrie for the MLE for sure, but I have a hard time believing that’s going to happen.

    No team likes to have talent walk for nothing. As Lakers fans we know this all to well. But if Im the Nets, I would say go ahead, opt out. The Lakers can’t do a sign and trade for him because of the hard cap. Kyrie would have to opt in for the Lakers to make a trade. And if you’re the Nets, do you really want to trade for Westbrook? If there truly is no other teams interested I don’t think Kyrie has much leverage. It has been said that the length of the contract is the issue, along with provisions about the number of games played. Given all the time he has missed that’s not unreasonable. It will be interesting to see what happens.

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    • Kyrie is essentially laying out three options:

      1. Decline his PO and do sign-and-trade with Lakers, which won’t work if he wants to be paid max amount. This option ends on Wed when Kyrie has to decide on his PO. He will opt in.

      2. Then Lakers can trade for Kyrie if they can find a third team to give them something for Russ that the Nets will accept rather than risk losing Kyrie for nothing.

      3. The MLE threat is how Kyrie holds the gun to the Nets head to force them to take what the Thunder gives the Lakers. The trigger is knowing he might be the only player in the league who would do this.

    • Kyrie’s only leverage is he is crazy!
      Nets should be frightened to death to keep him.
      Lakers should be just as frightened.
      They could be highjacked the second summer in a row.
      First by Russ. Second by Kyrie.
      This is SOOOOOOOO LAKERS!

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    Aloha,

    While I think everyone would like to see trades that could reshape our roster into a contender, as time goes by I have become less optimistic that that will happen. Russ is hard because there are only a couple of teams with contracts that they may want to move and he isn’t a player that most teams actually want. At this point trading Russ really doesn’t guarantee that we will become contenders. So the question becomes is it better to ride his contract out and see if we can build next year. As for THT, recent moves by other teams that the Lakers have approached proves that he’s not in high demand either. One of the mistakes that Robb has made that’s over looked is giving THT that player option in year 3 was huge. He has shown promise but teams are reluctant to trade for him because if he does break out he can walk. All of this said, I still see ways that we can be at least as good as if we made some trades. I’m not saying it will bring another banner this year, but then realistic trades won’t bring rings either.

    1. Health, Health, Health. If LeBron and AD are not healthy, nothing else matters.

    2. AD has to be bubble AD most of the season. He has to be the guy that totally dominated Embid when we played. I would love to see him regain his 3 point shot but even without it he’s still a force on both sides of the ball. I think Ham is the perfect coach for him.

    3. Russ doesn’t need to be a star, but if he can just be a plus role player, that would be huge.

    3. Can LeBron give us a little more defense on the wing? I hope so because we will need that.

    4. Can Nunn stay healthy? If he can, he is the perfect point guard for LeBron. He plays hard on defense which I’m sure coach Ham will love. He is also a 3 level scorer and he can play off the ball, which is a must with LeBron. All the talk was about LeBron and AD’s injuries but Nunn missing the season really hurt as well. He was considered one of the biggest steals in free agency and he was the talk of training camp before the injury. Having him available will be like having an extra mid level free agent added.

    The kids are key and they all need a serious growth spurt.

    1. THT appears to be staying unless something unexpected happens And that might not be terrible. The expectations for him I believe were inflated. He was the 46th pick in the 2nd round. He’s already out preformed what a team usually gets there. He’s only 21 and he does some nice things. He has a good handle, can play make, score at the rim in a variety of ways and is pretty good on the ball defensively.
    He needs to bring his 3 point shooting at least close to 35% this year. He needs to really improve his defensive rotations and he needs to use better judgment when attacking the paint. If he can do that he will be a plus for the team.

    2. Austin was a delightful surprise last year. You really couldn’t ask for a better in his first year. He needs to work on his strength and lateral quickness. He was beat a lot last year by quick guards. He has a nice stroke and I see no reason why he can’t be a 35 to 38% shooter from 3. Add this to what he already brings and he could become a key role player on a good team.

    3. Stanley and Gabriel were both nice surprises. Stanley flashed the ability that made him a lottery pick, while Gabriel demonstrated why he was a 5 star recruit out of high school. I think they both will improve even more defensively with a full training camp. Stanley may have been our best defender after AD and proved he could guard 1 through 5. I was really impressed when he was matched up with guys like Harden. Gabriel not only defended but was a great rebounder as well. They both need to improve their 3 point shooting, up to the league average. And Stanley needs to slow it down some when he’s leading the break. He got in trouble some last year.

    I don’t see Max or our two way guys contributing much this year but then I didn’t see Austin doing much either. Unfortunately Austin got his opportunity because everything went wrong with most of our free agents last year. If Christie gets a lot of minutes I hope it’s because he deserved them, not because the team is a disaster again.

    Free agency. One great thing about this year is the lack of cap space around the league. We will be able to find some quality with both our mini MLE and vet minimum contracts. With so many open roster spots and available minutes there will be guys that will see the Lakers as an opportunity to re-establish their value. Anything can happen but here are a few names that maybe available to us.

    Mini MLE

    1. Malik is still at the top of the list for me. He is the best scorer that we can land. While he’s not great defensively he tries and at 24 will improve. Defense is usually the last thing to come to young players. He price range seems to be 6 to 10 mil. I have read some that say he will get 10 mil while some say he will resign with the Lakers. Considering we will have cap space next year will he bet on himself again? He does like playing for the Lakers. I’m hoping he does.

    2. Gary Harris is another 6 to 10 mil guy. Because of his injury history he could end up closer to 6mil although he was healthy last year. While not the scorer that Malik is, he is a pretty good defender that has a 3 point shot.

    3. Otto Porter Jr is a guy that I debated putting on the list. Not because of his skill set, we all saw how valuable he was for the Warriors. But that’s why I wasn’t sure. If he falls to the 6 mil mark I’m pretty sure the Warriors retain him with their MLE. With Iggy retiring and Green getting older he’s pretty valuable. But he was so good for the Warriors he may get a full MLE somewhere.

    4. If you are a gambler Jalen Smith is your guy. 6’ 11’ PF/C he is only 22 and showed some of his lottery pick potential with the Pacers. He has a lot of offensive tools with a 3 point shot but he’s a project on defense. That’s where coach Ham comes in. Because of a contract flub by the Suns, the Pacers can only offer him 4.5 mil unless the use their MLE on him. We will see what they do. If the Pacers do trade Turner they very well may keep him.

    5. Bruce Brown is a 6’ 4” shooting guard that actually played some PF for the Nets, great defender with a 3. Again I really don’t think he will be available because the Nets have bird rights.

    Here are a few names that could fall the vet minimum status.

    1 TJ Warren. He’s a 15 mil guy if healthy. But after playing only 4 games in two years he’s a huge risk who according to several insiders could end up a minimum player. I wouldn’t sign him with the MLE because of his broken foot issues but I would probably roll the dice on a minimum contract because if he stays healthy and regains his form it would be a huge signing. I also think the Lakers will be his first choice if he does fall because there is a chance to start here.

    2. Taurean Prince is a 28 6’ 7” combo forward that can defend and shoots .376 from 3. He definitely wouldn’t be here in other years but several insiders say he could fall this far.

    3. Delon Wright is a 6’ 5” defense first PG that can also play off the he ball and hit the 3. He would be a great get.

    4. Danuel House. Another long wing that is a very good defender. Good 3 point shooter. The only reason he could fall this far is he has had attitude issues. But after having to prove himself with 10 day contracts and a very nice run at the end of the year with the Jazz perhaps it humbled him. For the vet minimum he’s worth the gamble.

    5. Two centers I like at the minimum are Boogie and Damien Jones. We never should have let Jones go. Either could possibly sign for more but I would love to land one of them.

    Old guys. While I don’t want many but I wouldn’t mind adding are Wes Matthews, DJ Augustine or of course Melo. Just not all 3.

    If everything breaks right we could be a pretty good team. Hopefully after 2 years of just about everything going wrong, will we finally have a year where everything goes right? I hope soZ

    Now what?

    Aloha,

    While I think everyone would like to see trades that could reshape our roster into a contender, as time goes by I have become less optimistic that that will happen. Russ is hard because there are only a couple of teams with contracts that they may want to move and he isn’t a player that most teams actually want. At this point trading Russ really doesn’t guarantee that we will become contenders. So the question becomes is it better to ride his contract out and see if we can build next year. As for THT, recent moves by other teams that the Lakers have approached proves that he’s not in high demand either. One of the mistakes that Robb has made that’s over looked is giving THT that player option in year 3 was huge. He has shown promise but teams are reluctant to trade for him because if he does break out he can walk. All of this said, I still see ways that we can be at least as good as if we made some trades. I’m not saying it will bring another banner this year, but then realistic trades won’t bring rings either.

    1. Health, Health, Health. If LeBron and AD are not healthy, nothing else matters.

    2. AD has to be bubble AD most of the season. He has to be the guy that totally dominated Embid when we played. I would love to see him regain his 3 point shot but even without it he’s still a force on both sides of the ball. I think Ham is the perfect coach for him.

    3. Russ doesn’t need to be a star, but if he can just be a plus role player, that would be huge.

    3. Can LeBron give us a little more defense on the wing? I hope so because we will need that.

    4. Can Nunn stay healthy? If he can, he is the perfect point guard for LeBron. He plays hard on defense which I’m sure coach Ham will love. He is also a 3 level scorer and he can play off the ball, which is a must with LeBron. All the talk was about LeBron and AD’s injuries but Nunn missing the season really hurt as well. He was considered one of the biggest steals in free agency and he was the talk of training camp before the injury. Having him available will be like having an extra mid level free agent added.

    The kids are key and they all need a serious growth spurt.

    1. THT appears to be staying unless something unexpected happens And that might not be terrible. The expectations for him I believe were inflated. He was the 46th pick in the 2nd round. He’s already out preformed what a team usually gets there. He’s only 21 and he does some nice things. He has a good handle, can play make, score at the rim in a variety of ways and is pretty good on the ball defensively.
    He needs to bring his 3 point shooting at least close to 35% this year. He needs to really improve his defensive rotations and he needs to use better judgment when attacking the paint. If he can do that he will be a plus for the team.

    2. Austin was a delightful surprise last year. You really couldn’t ask for a better in his first year. He needs to work on his strength and lateral quickness. He was beat a lot last year by quick guards. He has a nice stroke and I see no reason why he can’t be a 35 to 38% shooter from 3. Add this to what he already brings and he could become a key role player on a good team.

    3. Stanley and Gabriel were both nice surprises. Stanley flashed the ability that made him a lottery pick, while Gabriel demonstrated why he was a 5 star recruit out of high school. I think they both will improve even more defensively with a full training camp. Stanley may have been our best defender after AD and proved he could guard 1 through 5. I was really impressed when he was matched up with guys like Harden. Gabriel not only defended but was a great rebounder as well. They both need to improve their 3 point shooting, up to the league average. And Stanley needs to slow it down some when he’s leading the break. He got in trouble some last year.

    I don’t see Max or our two way guys contributing much this year but then I didn’t see Austin doing much either. Unfortunately Austin got his opportunity because everything went wrong with most of our free agents last year. If Christie gets a lot of minutes I hope it’s because he deserved them, not because the team is a disaster again.

    Free agency. One great thing about this year is the lack of cap space around the league. We will be able to find some quality with both our mini MLE and vet minimum contracts. With so many open roster spots and available minutes there will be guys that will see the Lakers as an opportunity to re-establish their value. Anything can happen but here are a few names that maybe available to us.

    Mini MLE

    1. Malik is still at the top of the list for me. He is the best scorer that we can land. While he’s not great defensively he tries and at 24 will improve. Defense is usually the last thing to come to young players. He price range seems to be 6 to 10 mil. I have read some that say he will get 10 mil while some say he will resign with the Lakers. Considering we will have cap space next year will he bet on himself again? He does like playing for the Lakers. I’m hoping he does.

    2. Gary Harris is another 6 to 10 mil guy. Because of his injury history he could end up closer to 6mil although he was healthy last year. While not the scorer that Malik is, he is a pretty good defender that has a 3 point shot.

    3. Otto Porter Jr is a guy that I debated putting on the list. Not because of his skill set, we all saw how valuable he was for the Warriors. But that’s why I wasn’t sure. If he falls to the 6 mil mark I’m pretty sure the Warriors retain him with their MLE. With Iggy retiring and Green getting older he’s pretty valuable. But he was so good for the Warriors he may get a full MLE somewhere.

    4. If you are a gambler Jalen Smith is your guy. 6’ 11’ PF/C he is only 22 and showed some of his lottery pick potential with the Pacers. He has a lot of offensive tools with a 3 point shot but he’s a project on defense. That’s where coach Ham comes in. Because of a contract flub by the Suns, the Pacers can only offer him 4.5 mil unless the use their MLE on him. We will see what they do. If the Pacers do trade Turner they very well may keep him.

    5. Bruce Brown is a 6’ 4” shooting guard that actually played some PF for the Nets, great defender with a 3. Again I really don’t think he will be available because the Nets have bird rights.

    Here are a few names that could fall the vet minimum status.

    1 TJ Warren. He’s a 15 mil guy if healthy. But after playing only 4 games in two years he’s a huge risk who according to several insiders could end up a minimum player. I wouldn’t sign him with the MLE because of his broken foot issues but I would probably roll the dice on a minimum contract because if he stays healthy and regains his form it would be a huge signing. I also think the Lakers will be his first choice if he does fall because there is a chance to start here.

    2. Taurean Prince is a 28 6’ 7” combo forward that can defend and shoots .376 from 3. He definitely wouldn’t be here in other years but several insiders say he could fall this far.

    3. Delon Wright is a 6’ 5” defense first PG that can also play off the he ball and hit the 3. He would be a great get.

    4. Danuel House. Another long wing that is a very good defender. Good 3 point shooter. The only reason he could fall this far is he has had attitude issues. But after having to prove himself with 10 day contracts and a very nice run at the end of the year with the Jazz perhaps it humbled him. For the vet minimum he’s worth the gamble.

    5. Two centers I like at the minimum are Boogie and Damien Jones. We never should have let Jones go. Either could possibly sign for more but I would love to land one of them.

    Old guys. While I don’t want many but I wouldn’t mind adding are Wes Matthews, DJ Augustine or of course Melo. Just not all 3.

    If everything breaks right we could be a pretty good team. Hopefully after 2 years of just about everything going wrong, will we finally have a year where everything goes right? I hope soZ

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    • Aloha, Michael,

      Thanks for an excellent summary of options we may have as Rob tries to rebuild this roster. Definitely doesn’t help to have the Kyrie situation dropped on us.

      Still don’t see any better options for the Hornets or Pacers than Russ’ expiring contract so what happens with them will likely determine how this summer goes for the Lakers. Still hopeful we will find a trade for Russ.

    • The point is he’s likely not to get traded because of his contract. Teams aren’t going to invest in a project if he can walk in a year. He’s more then likely going to be on the team this year.

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    All ha looks like the Lakers are bringing Shaq’s son to summer league.

    Shareef O’Neil

    All ha looks like the Lakers are bringing Shaq’s son to summer league.

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    Aloha,

    It looks like the Lakers went with went with upside instead of a play and plug player. He was a 5 star recruit that didn’t live up to that. He is a good defender and had a reputation as a shooter coming in to college. That didn’t materialize but he has a nice stroke and he’s 19. It was said that if he rediscovered that shot that he would be a likely lottery pick next year. I really trust our scouting department so we will see if they were right again.

    Max Christie

    Aloha,

    It looks like the Lakers went with went with upside instead of a play and plug player. He was a 5 star recruit that didn’t live up to that. He is a good defender and had a reputation as a shooter coming in to college. That didn’t materialize but he has a nice stroke and he’s 19. It was said that if he rediscovered that shot that he would be a likely lottery pick next year. I really trust our scouting department so we will see if they were right again.

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    • His pro comparison was Danny Green. So a 3 and d wing shoot fit with Ham.

    • Disappointing that we did not go for size.
      Another 6′ 5″ shooting guard who can’t play the three.

    • It’s just an odd pick, especially considering they hadn’t even tried out players in that range and ended up picking a guy at 35 that they could have had at 45 whom they had not even worked out.

      It’s not like Max is a secret. He’s a hot high school 5-star prospect who had a mediocre college career. Hope I’m wrong and the Lakers uncovered another gem like Caruso and Reaves.

      The only thing I can figure is they were looking for a center and had to punt when everybody they liked was gone. Would have liked to have seen them draft a real wing (6′ 7″ to 6′ 10″) rather than another shooting guard.

      What is it about Pelinka and shooting guard. They probably try to play Max at the three, where he will be trying to stop 6′ 8″ players.

      • I think when you are drafting in the 2nd round you are looking for maximum upside regardless of size or position. If they felt Max had the most potential of the names on the board then you go with it. Both Kuz and Hart were considered reaches. Neither were projected as 1st round picks, so we’ll see.

    • Here’s some positive notes on his fit defensively.

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    Aloha,

    This off season the Lakers have 3 things going for them.

    1. This is a very deep draft. Covid delayed a lot of players entering the draft the last couple of years. Players in our 35th pick range would have been late 1st rounders in other years. Also there will be undrafted players that would have been drafted in previous years.

    2. There is not a lot of free agent money available.

    3. The Lakers have a lot of open roster spots. This will be enticing for free agents wanting to repair their value. This will draw both veteran free agents and undrafted rookies.

    Good opportunities this year.

    Aloha,

    This off season the Lakers have 3 things going for them.

    1. This is a very deep draft. Covid delayed a lot of players entering the draft the last couple of years. Players in our 35th pick range would have been late 1st rounders in other years. Also there will be undrafted players that would have been drafted in previous years.

    2. There is not a lot of free agent money available.

    3. The Lakers have a lot of open roster spots. This will be enticing for free agents wanting to repair their value. This will draw both veteran free agents and undrafted rookies.

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    • Lakers hopes for deal with Hornets still alive. Hornets drafted Duke center so won’t be trading for one. Also traded one of their two picks for pick down the road just to avoid paying for two first round picks. Same old Hornets. Dump trade for Russ could fly.

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    Aloha,

    The chatter around the league is that the Hornets are talking to the Pacers about Turner. The Pacers love Hayward and the Hornets have the 13th and 15th pick in the draft this year. It’s very possible that we see Hayward and a 1st going to the Pacers for Turner.

    But I don’t think that would necessarily kill a deal for Russ. The Hornets seem to still be interested in Russ. The Pacers owe Scary Terry around 70 mil over the next 3 years. And while he’s a good player he’s not the best fit with Ball, now firmly in charge at point guard. Terry would be a much better fit on the Lakers because he is a decent shooter and can play off the ball. I would suspect we would see Terry and maybe Plumlee to the Lakers for Russ and a 1st round pick. I would love Ubre but if the Hornets move Hayward then they probably want to hold onto Kelly. I actually like this better then Hayward because he’s 32 and hasn’t been able to stay healthy.

    Scary Terry

    Aloha,

    The chatter around the league is that the Hornets are talking to the Pacers about Turner. The Pacers love Hayward and the Hornets have the 13th and 15th pick in the draft this year. It’s very possible that we see Hayward and a 1st going to the Pacers for Turner.

    But I don’t think that would necessarily kill a deal for Russ. The Hornets seem to still be interested in Russ. The Pacers owe Scary Terry around 70 mil over the next 3 years. And while he’s a good player he’s not the best fit with Ball, now firmly in charge at point guard. Terry would be a much better fit on the Lakers because he is a decent shooter and can play off the ball. I would suspect we would see Terry and maybe Plumlee to the Lakers for Russ and a 1st round pick. I would love Ubre but if the Hornets move Hayward then they probably want to hold onto Kelly. I actually like this better then Hayward because he’s 32 and hasn’t been able to stay healthy.

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    • The player I would love to get is P.J. Washington. They may not want to keep and pay him with Bridges and Melo coming up the next two years. Throw him in with Terry and Plumlee and it’s maybe better than Hayward. Those three fit the Lakers needs perfectly.

      The other thing is from everything I read, MJ does not want to pay taxes. There was even talk he would look to trade Bridges instead of extending him. Hayward’s contract is a lot for most teams to absorb, especially a cheapskate ownership like Indy. Let’s see what happens. Won’t be long now.

    • Almost any Russ trade other than for Randle is a win by breaking it into smaller pieces who can still play. If you don’t like the pieces, combine them with THT and Nunn and the other pick and move them for something better fitting.

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    Aloha,

    Tom was right, the Lakers will offer 1st round picks in trades. But it appears that the Pacers are not impressed.

    Lakers Rumors: Westbrook, Horton-Tucker, 2026 1st Offered in Malcolm Brogdon Trade

    The Los Angeles Lakers offered Russell Westbrook, Talen Horton-Tucker and a 2026 first-round draft pick to the Indiana Pacers for Malcolm Brogdon, ESPN’s Jonathan Givony reported on The Lowe Post podcast

    That offer was reportedly rejected.

    The Lakers are looking to bounce back in 2022-23 after finishing 11th in the Western Conference with a 33-49 record. The Pacers are in rebuilding mode after going 25-57 last year.

    A pick and THT?

    Aloha,

    Tom was right, the Lakers will offer 1st round picks in trades. But it appears that the Pacers are not impressed.

    Lakers Rumors: Westbrook, Horton-Tucker, 2026 1st Offered in Malcolm Brogdon Trade

    The Los Angeles Lakers offered Russell Westbrook, Talen Horton-Tucker and a 2026 first-round draft pick to the Indiana Pacers for Malcolm Brogdon, ESPN’s Jonathan Givony reported on The Lowe Post podcast

    That offer was reportedly rejected.

    The Lakers are looking to bounce back in 2022-23 after finishing 11th in the Western Conference with a 33-49 record. The Pacers are in rebuilding mode after going 25-57 last year.

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    Aloha,

    Over the last couple of weeks we have close click bait headlines that the Lakers are interested in LaVine, Beal and now Kyrie. Of course they are. Duh! I’m waiting for the headline for that some team is interested in Westbrook, even THT. That hasn’t happened yet. Until it does it’s all click bait.

    Lakers are interested in everyone

    Aloha,

    Over the last couple of weeks we have close click bait headlines that the Lakers are interested in LaVine, Beal and now Kyrie. Of course they are. Duh! I’m waiting for the headline for that some team is interested in Westbrook, even THT. That hasn’t happened yet. Until it does it’s all click bait.

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    Aloha,

    The first big man trade just hit. The Rockets received an unremarkable
    Collection of players BUT, they also receive the 26 th pick in this years draft. Like I’ve been saying all along, a pick 5 years down the road is not as valuable as a pick that can be used right away. I expect more of the same this summer.

    Shams Charania
    @ShamsCharania
    · 5m
    Sources: The Mavericks are sending Boban Marjanovic, Sterling Brown, Trey Burke, Marquese Chriss and the No. 26 pick to the Rockets for Christian Wood.

    Draft picks matter in Wood trade

    Aloha,

    The first big man trade just hit. The Rockets received an unremarkable
    Collection of players BUT, they also receive the 26 th pick in this years draft. Like I’ve been saying all along, a pick 5 years down the road is not as valuable as a pick that can be used right away. I expect more of the same this summer.

    Shams Charania
    @ShamsCharania
    · 5m
    Sources: The Mavericks are sending Boban Marjanovic, Sterling Brown, Trey Burke, Marquese Chriss and the No. 26 pick to the Rockets for Christian Wood.

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    • That’s essentially a first round pick and filler for Wood.
      His attitude problems must have hurt his trade value.
      Seems like Rockets should have gotten more.

      • Only expiring contracts. Rockets building from scratch the way they should. Targeting draft picks to collect cheap talent. Smart to chase long game.

    • It’s interesting that the Lakers did not appear to have any interest in Wood although there was some at the trade deadline last year. His defense is certainly suspect as maybe his team first character but he is a huge talent offensively to get for a late first round pick.

      Wood is not a logical pick for a Darvin Ham team although I think out picks will have a lot more value than normal since they’re post LeBron but may have to be unprotected for max value. At any rate, hopefully this is a sign the Lakers believe they can do much better than a defensive challenged Christian Wood.

    • The 1st domino to fall. Draft next week then the floodgates open 2 weeks from tomorrow. Gonna be interesting to see how THT, Nunn , and those long lost draft picks are actually valued around the league. Time for talking is just about over…

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    Aloha,

    Jabari Walker is a guy I’ve been hearing about lately. The son of former Laker Samaki Walker he worked out today for the Lakers. Definitely the kind of forward we should be looking at. By the way he is a huge a LeBron fan which would be a plus if he goes undrafted.

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    We didn’t quite get a full-blown breakout season from Jabari Walker at Colorado after he thrived in a small role as a freshman, but the foundation is there for him to continue his development into a solid role player in the NBA. The 6-8 forward has good positional size and length, strong shooting touch (he was in the 93rd percentile as a frosh in spot-up shooting situations) and really good rebounding instincts for his position. If he can return to form as a knockdown catch-and-shoot guy (after being miscast in a big role as a sophomore) and add that to his length and defense then there’s more than enough here for him to return value as a real value late in the draft or even as an undrafted priority free agent.

    Jabari Walker

    Aloha,

    Jabari Walker is a guy I’ve been hearing about lately. The son of former Laker Samaki Walker he worked out today for the Lakers. Definitely the kind of forward we should be looking at. By the way he is a huge a LeBron fan which would be a plus if he goes undrafted.

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    We didn’t quite get a full-blown breakout season from Jabari Walker at Colorado after he thrived in a small role as a freshman, but the foundation is there for him to continue his development into a solid role player in the NBA. The 6-8 forward has good positional size and length, strong shooting touch (he was in the 93rd percentile as a frosh in spot-up shooting situations) and really good rebounding instincts for his position. If he can return to form as a knockdown catch-and-shoot guy (after being miscast in a big role as a sophomore) and add that to his length and defense then there’s more than enough here for him to return value as a real value late in the draft or even as an undrafted priority free agent.

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    • Good prospect, Michael. I would prefer gambling on young guys with size and talent like Walker rather than retread minimum salary vets for bottom third of roster.

      • The lakers have 3 things going for them this off season. 1. Not a lot of free agent money out there this year.
        2. It’s an extremely deep draft. Especially at the backend. Covid prevented a lot of guys from coming out earlier.
        3. a lot of open roster spots for both pro’s trying to rebuild their value and undrafted rookies with visions of becoming the nect Reeves and Caruso.

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    Aloha,

    It is too early to tell if there will be trades or what free agents we can land. But one hire that needs to happen is a all world shooting coach. All of our young guys showed a lot of potential in certain areas. The one area they all need help in is shooting. If these young guys can be elevated into the 35% range they could become a very useful core. Perhaps a great coach could help Russ with his 3 point shot. What is clear, trade or no trade we will need contribution s from at least a couple of these guys. I believe in their abilities to defend and even improve in that area. It’s the shooting that will tell how far we can go with these kids.

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    Aloha,

    It is too early to tell if there will be trades or what free agents we can land. But one hire that needs to happen is a all world shooting coach. All of our young guys showed a lot of potential in certain areas. The one area they all need help in is shooting. If these young guys can be elevated into the 35% range they could become a very useful core. Perhaps a great coach could help Russ with his 3 point shot. What is clear, trade or no trade we will need contribution s from at least a couple of these guys. I believe in their abilities to defend and even improve in that area. It’s the shooting that will tell how far we can go with these kids.

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    • Great point, Michael. The fact that we did not bring back our shooting coach Mike Penberthy confirms we were not happy with his work. So far, we have not seen Ham add anybody to replace the shooting coach. We could certainly use somebody who could get our low 30’s shooters hitting around the 35% league average.

      I also think it’s going to be critical that the shooters we bring in also help fill out other two major needs, which is for defense and size. Shooters who can’t defend or lack positional size are not the answer. We need legitimate 3&D players who have size to get their shots off and defend their positions. We got shooters last summer but not guys with the size and defensive ability we needed. Must do better this time around.

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    Aloha,

    So it appears that Rasheed Wallace one of the great villains of Laker lore will now be one of the coaches. Ironic isn’t it? All I know is Rasheed was one nasty dude. Hopefully some of that nasty rubs off on our young guys. Heck I hope some of the Nasty rubs off on AD. I wonder though, are coaches suspended after 16 technical fouls like players😂

    Villain as a coach?

    Aloha,

    So it appears that Rasheed Wallace one of the great villains of Laker lore will now be one of the coaches. Ironic isn’t it? All I know is Rasheed was one nasty dude. Hopefully some of that nasty rubs off on our young guys. Heck I hope some of the Nasty rubs off on AD. I wonder though, are coaches suspended after 16 technical fouls like players😂

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    Aloha,

    Well the Russ trade proposals keep coming hot and heavy and will only intensify over the coming weeks. Now of course all of these are writers coming up with them. There actually has only been two teams that are said to be possibly interested in a trade for Russ. The Hornets and the Rockets.

    So what I have been doing is pulling up these teams on Bleacher Report just to see what the local writers with some inside information have to say. Sadly Russ is never mentioned. For instance the Pacers are interested in Colin Sexton. They could offer Buddy to the Cav’s for Sexton. Considering the Cav’s need floor spacers they would probably go for it. It would depend on the offers Sexton receives.

    This is the way it is with every team. Even the Hornets site aren’t talking about Russ but they are talking a lot about other targets. Primarily centers with Hayward mentioned. This is why I think the Lakers have asked for plans on using Russ. Not so much that they want to keep him but after a month of talking to teams there is the very real possibility that they won’t be able to find a trade.

    The same thing goes for THT and Nunn, neither are talked about on other sites. On the brighter side Monk is not being talked much by the teams that could sign him for more then the mini mid level.

    It’s still early and deals that no one has even thought of may surface. Still, I’m not holding my breathe.

    Not holding my breathe.

    Aloha,

    Well the Russ trade proposals keep coming hot and heavy and will only intensify over the coming weeks. Now of course all of these are writers coming up with them. There actually has only been two teams that are said to be possibly interested in a trade for Russ. The Hornets and the Rockets.

    So what I have been doing is pulling up these teams on Bleacher Report just to see what the local writers with some inside information have to say. Sadly Russ is never mentioned. For instance the Pacers are interested in Colin Sexton. They could offer Buddy to the Cav’s for Sexton. Considering the Cav’s need floor spacers they would probably go for it. It would depend on the offers Sexton receives.

    This is the way it is with every team. Even the Hornets site aren’t talking about Russ but they are talking a lot about other targets. Primarily centers with Hayward mentioned. This is why I think the Lakers have asked for plans on using Russ. Not so much that they want to keep him but after a month of talking to teams there is the very real possibility that they won’t be able to find a trade.

    The same thing goes for THT and Nunn, neither are talked about on other sites. On the brighter side Monk is not being talked much by the teams that could sign him for more then the mini mid level.

    It’s still early and deals that no one has even thought of may surface. Still, I’m not holding my breathe.

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    • I think the Lakers will end up trading Russ but I believe they will include a pick to do it but will be able to get two better players as a result of giving up the pick. I think the Lakers have no real intent to bring Russ back. He burned that bridge and Rob is not going to make the same mistake twice. Burdening a rookie head coach with Westbrook would be criminal idiocy. Russ must go, even if it costs a pick.

      • I think the Lakers want to trade Russ as badly as you do Tom. But I also believe that they are being realistic. Russ is no one’s plan A. If he were a deal probably would be done. He maybe a last resort for a few teams. That’s going to play out after free agency opens up. I truly hope they can find a deal but like I said, I’m not holding my breathe.

        • We’ll find out over the next month, Michael. I think there are teams for whom cleaning up their cap sheet will have a high priority.

          Again, it’s going to be a version of musical chairs. I believe there will be teams who want Russ’ $47M expiring contract and there will be pressure to make a deal that will help the Lakers make a reasonable trade.

          I also do believe the Lakers will probably take the best deal they can get rather than keeping Russ because they really don’t want to jinx Ham’s rookie season by giving him Russ. Ham was a big win for the Lakers long-term. They’re not going to screw him with Westbrook.

          That could mean the Lakers take a trade like the Knicks trade, which I still think is Plan G or H, which would then extend the rebuild to the trade deadline. One way or another, Lakers are going to end the Westbrook experiment.

          • I doubt there is anyone who wants to keep Russ. But the reality is when there is a decent player involved a teams just isn’t going to dump a player without exhausting all possibilities first. Especially small market teams like the Pacers that are not a draw for free agency. I used the Sexton for Buddy example that is out there. Now let’s say the Knicks can’t find their PG in free agency which maybe the case since there are only a couple of good ones on the Market. They send Reddish , Walker and one of their 3 1st rounders in the next two years. So they have moved the contracts that they want, picked up the young guard they want, added a promising young forward and added a first rounder. And they only will have to eat Walkers 9.5 mil. This is what all these teams will look to do. Our only chance is that they can’t find a good deal and fall back on Russ. And even then they could hold a player till the trade deadline. These are useful players.

    • Me either, I also don’t think Russ has burned any bridges that can’t be fixed. Kobe wanted to play on Pluto, Magic wanted out. These guys are expected to give perfect answers, Russ has never been good with the media, either. I long ago prepared myself mentally and physically for us to, at a minimum, start next season with Russ on the team and on the court starting.

    • Russ didn’t jive with Frankie and Frankie has left the building. Ham will command alot more respect if nothing else

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    Aloha,

    Marc Stein has reported that the Lakers are telling
    Anyone who will listen that they are keeping Russ. That they will not give up future assets to move him nor will they waive and stretch him. Posturing? Perhaps, or it could be reality setting in. The Front office has had ample time to talk with everyone in the league and gage what opportunities are out there. There simply may not be a trade that they see as a path to elevating the team into contender status. And why waste assets on players that won’t do that.

    A good example is the Pacers. Buddy and Brogdon is everyone’s favorite trade. Yet there hasn’t been one hint of interest coming from the Pacers camp. They have repeatedly said they are going to build while trying to stay competitive. That are not tearing it down. Considering they are way under the salary cap and not an ideal destination for free agents there really isn’t a need to create additional cap space. They can simply hold onto their players until the right opportunity comes along.
    Perhaps the Lakers would consider adding draft picks to obtain the two but it’s likely that a trade isn’t available.

    The two teams that the rumors were supposed to come from the front offices are the Rockets and Hornets. The Rockets want a first and I wouldn’t do that either. I’m sure the Hornets interest revolves around Hayward. The Lakers probably have talked with a Mitch. Maybe the Lakers do not like the Hornets proposal. Honestly I could see why the Lakers would hesitate about giving up picks for Hayward.

    The Lakers will have cap space again after Russ falls off the books. Perhaps they are not willing to take on contracts for the players that maybe available for several years after Russ would have been gone, if it is not a championship move. Or Perhaps after talking with other teams there just isn’t a trade available. While expiring contracts are valuable 47 mil for one player is problematic. And if that player is seen as a negative it becomes even more difficult. While I rarely say never, I’m not optimistic that a trade will happen for Russ this summer.

    Keeping Russ?

    Aloha,

    Marc Stein has reported that the Lakers are telling
    Anyone who will listen that they are keeping Russ. That they will not give up future assets to move him nor will they waive and stretch him. Posturing? Perhaps, or it could be reality setting in. The Front office has had ample time to talk with everyone in the league and gage what opportunities are out there. There simply may not be a trade that they see as a path to elevating the team into contender status. And why waste assets on players that won’t do that.

    A good example is the Pacers. Buddy and Brogdon is everyone’s favorite trade. Yet there hasn’t been one hint of interest coming from the Pacers camp. They have repeatedly said they are going to build while trying to stay competitive. That are not tearing it down. Considering they are way under the salary cap and not an ideal destination for free agents there really isn’t a need to create additional cap space. They can simply hold onto their players until the right opportunity comes along.
    Perhaps the Lakers would consider adding draft picks to obtain the two but it’s likely that a trade isn’t available.

    The two teams that the rumors were supposed to come from the front offices are the Rockets and Hornets. The Rockets want a first and I wouldn’t do that either. I’m sure the Hornets interest revolves around Hayward. The Lakers probably have talked with a Mitch. Maybe the Lakers do not like the Hornets proposal. Honestly I could see why the Lakers would hesitate about giving up picks for Hayward.

    The Lakers will have cap space again after Russ falls off the books. Perhaps they are not willing to take on contracts for the players that maybe available for several years after Russ would have been gone, if it is not a championship move. Or Perhaps after talking with other teams there just isn’t a trade available. While expiring contracts are valuable 47 mil for one player is problematic. And if that player is seen as a negative it becomes even more difficult. While I rarely say never, I’m not optimistic that a trade will happen for Russ this summer.

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    • I made similar points and comments both in-season and recently. I believe Tom’s response prior to the deadline was LMFAO. Ahhhh yes, yes indeed it was. One of us has been laughing ever since and I’ve been studying recipes in how Crow can best be served. It’s hard for some folks to accept simple logic like “small market teams don’t need to clear $47 million dollars in cap space because whom will they spend it on?” Those kind of questions get brushed aside and tossed out the window. The reality and truth of the matter is the Wall deal may be all that could hapoen and, at best, that is a lateral move. Russ and his deal will have the most value at next season’s trade deadline. Depending on how he’s playing maybe notveven much then. Which is exactly why I’ve been floating the notion that simply acquiring cap space when his deal is up isn’t the worst outcome. Far worse to cut the feet out from inder the future by giving up picks to take on bad deals. Especially if Ham has some good ideas how to make it all work.

      • It’s hard for some folks to accept that dumping bad salary is more important to some NBA teams than winning. in any given year, the main focus of half of the teams in the NBA is making sure to make money, not spending to win championships. It’s a business and profits and growth of assets are the primary objectives of most of the small market teams.

        As for the notion that there is value in the Lakers keeping Russ to clear cap space when his contract expires, I wholeheartedly agree. If LeBron extended 1+1, the timing would be perfect. The problem with that theory is it sacrifices what is probably going to be the Lakers best shot at winning #18 in this decade. Like trading LeBron and/or AD, it’s a move that could work out better long-term but is highly unlikely to happen in my opinion. Fortunately, we won’t have to wait to long to find out who eats crow.

    • Aloha, Michael,

      Looks like the Lakers posturing is working as they even have you convinced that they would not give up a draft pick in any Russell Westbrook trade.

      All everybody is doing right now is establishing their starting bargaining position. Rarely do we see teams refusing to adjust as we get closer to free agency.

      I also don’t buy that teams are out to give it to the Lakers because they know they’re desperate. In the end, each team is going to do what’s best for them.

      I still believe the Lakers will trade Westbrook and that all of the current hullabaloo is just posturing. Being able to clean up their cap will be enough for the Lakers to move Russ. They’ll end up giving up a pick but will also get better players in return as the quid pro quo.

    • Great points made by all. There is a tightrope that needs to be walked when dealing with Russ’ contract. Just using round numbers for simplicity…say our cap number is $150mill with Russ and the league cap is set at $115mill. If we just let him walk at the end, we don’t automatically have that $150mill and his $47mill to work with anymore. Our number becomes $103mill and we only have $12mill to work with…not quite the same flexibility. Teams that are willing to spend the money (and I’m not totally convinced that Jeannie is) want to keep that cap number inflated to provide added manuverablity, but with good players who can either contribute to a title run or become trade assets in the future. Hence…..the tightrope.

      • There’s also a perfect storm happening in that the Lakers don’t want to pay exorbitant luxury taxes and they could really use the $10.3M MLE and $4.1M BAE plus ability to receive players in S&Ts that being hardcapped would give them.

        In many ways, the Lakers might end up getting better players via free agency than trade. The MLE and BAE and S&Ts open up a world of free agents the Lakers cannot get in a straight trade. The free agents won’t cost as much, will be younger, and will have more upside and none of the injury and performance questions as players in bad contracts.

      • For me, the dominating factor that tells me the Lakers trading Russell Westbrook this summer is a slam dunk is the coming season is probably the team’s best opportunity to win #18 this decade. The Warriors, Clippers, and Grizzlies are all going to get better every year while the Lakers have to try and play catchup.

        If the Lakers keep Russ, I don’t see any way the team is going to be successful. Russ is not going to change anything and he will be a year older and a year less explosive. Even if we send him home like the Rockets did to Wall, we’ll miss the rotation players that trading him could have gotten us.

        The math is pretty simple. If the Lakers want the LeBron era to end on a positive note, they have to go all in this summer. They have two trading chips with questionable value – Westbrook and THT. In the end, I bet they will use a draft pick to enhance the trade for each of them. Russ + Pick will get LAL something like Brogdon and Hield and THT + Pick will get them something like Christian Wood.

        Lakers need to get 3 rotation players from Russ and THT.

        • i dont a trade being a slam dunk and i certainly dont see a trade that will bring back players that elivate the Lakers into true contenders. this is not a good year for free agents because of tight money. teams will look at trades. and teams like the Pacer will look for more value. at over 30 mil in cap space in a market that doesn’t draw high end free agents they have no incentive to dump even more salary. they can wait for the right trade to come along that will help them build now. not wait 5 years to spend a draft pick.

          • I do agree it would be hard to get enough back to be a legitimate contender but that’s probably going to depend more on a healthy and peak playing LeBron and AD than anything.

            We won’t be favorites for sure, even after a great summer, but hopefully we’ll make good progress, get rid of Russ, and end up with players who will at least be viable trading chips or rotation players.

            I think the decision to hire Ham is a positive sign that we may see more intelligent decision making by the Lakers. At least I hope so. LOL. It’s hard sometimes to be a loyal fan. Anyway, good so far. And I like the posturing. Don’t know whether it works in the end but it’s a game we all have to play.

            Sometimes different opinions are the result of philosophical points, like analytics or rim protection. But most of the time, it’s how we look at the proverbial half-empty, half-full glass. That sets the range of what each of us thinks is going to happen.

            We glass half-full types shoot for everything we want knowing we won’t get it all while you glass half-empty types predict what they expect will happen hoping that they’re wrong but not wanting to be hugely disappointed.

            Fantasy vs Reality? Sometimes but not always.

      • Actually in 2023 we only have 51 mil on the books. But of course LeBron will be a huge cap hold and there will be minimum cap holds as well. But the cap is estimated to be 128 mil in 2023 that coupled with access to the full MLE and bi annual would give us money to spend on several decent role players. I think the days of big 3’s are behind us.

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