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    Aloha,

    The Lakers have dug themselves a nasty hole with their foolish attempt to build a big 3. A hole they will have a hard time climbing out of. LeBron could help. Lebrons net worth is estimated at 850 million dollars. He is well on his way to becoming a billion dollar basketball player like MJ. He could retire today and still hit the billion dollar mark in a few year through endorsements and his various business ventures. So it begs the question, how important is winning another ring to him? He has stated that he won’t accept anything but a max contact but if he wants to win, signing another max contract will make winning another ring very difficult. If he took less, say 25 to 30 mil that would leave money for a couple of quality role players and could even open up the full MLE and bi annual slot. And if he goes into free agency who could even pay him that? Or want to at his age. It will be interesting to see which is bigger, his ego or his desire to win another championship. He probably can’t get paid 50 mil and win again, no matter where he is.

    Billion dollar man

    Aloha,

    The Lakers have dug themselves a nasty hole with their foolish attempt to build a big 3. A hole they will have a hard time climbing out of. LeBron could help. Lebrons net worth is estimated at 850 million dollars. He is well on his way to becoming a billion dollar basketball player like MJ. He could retire today and still hit the billion dollar mark in a few year through endorsements and his various business ventures. So it begs the question, how important is winning another ring to him? He has stated that he won’t accept anything but a max contact but if he wants to win, signing another max contract will make winning another ring very difficult. If he took less, say 25 to 30 mil that would leave money for a couple of quality role players and could even open up the full MLE and bi annual slot. And if he goes into free agency who could even pay him that? Or want to at his age. It will be interesting to see which is bigger, his ego or his desire to win another championship. He probably can’t get paid 50 mil and win again, no matter where he is.

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    2nd Round

    Aloha,

    The gossip out there is that the Lakers want to buy into the 2nd round. The TWolves are the obvious target with 3 2nd round picks this year. However OKC’s number 34 should be looked at as well. Normally teams do not sell 2nd rounders that are that high. But OKC has 3 1st rounders this year and a lot of players under contract. Perhaps they would agree to cash and a future 2nd rounder. It would also be a good time to see if we could get Kendrich Williams for a 2nd rounder. We have a trade exception to absorb him into. With all the incoming draft picks they are going to have to move some players without taking a player back.

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    The Los Angeles Lakers hired Milwaukee Bucks assistant Darvin Ham as their new head coach on Friday to replace Frank Vogel, according to ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski.

    Ham is being signed to a four-year contract, per The Athletic and Stadium’s Shams Charania.

    Lakers Hire Ham

    Aloha,

    The Los Angeles Lakers hired Milwaukee Bucks assistant Darvin Ham as their new head coach on Friday to replace Frank Vogel, according to ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski.

    Ham is being signed to a four-year contract, per The Athletic and Stadium’s Shams Charania.

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    Aloha,

    There is only 30 head coaching jobs in the NBA. So of course when one opens up you do want it. Still in the back of these candidates minds they have to be asking themselves, do I really want this? Luke had LeBron and a bunch of kids 4th in the west until LeBron and other key players went down with extended injuries and he got canned. Frank inherited AD and they win a ring. The roster is fiddled with and injuries plagued the team again and they only managed getting into the play in before AD got hurt again. Then the remaining pieces of the championship squad are moved or allowed to walk, replaced by basically Russ and senior citizens. Injuries strike again and Frank is canned. These candidates have to be asking themselves, how much of a chance will I be given? Considering the roster will need to be overhauled yet again, I’m sure they must have some reservations. Who will the lucky guy be😂

    Do I really want this?

    Aloha,

    There is only 30 head coaching jobs in the NBA. So of course when one opens up you do want it. Still in the back of these candidates minds they have to be asking themselves, do I really want this? Luke had LeBron and a bunch of kids 4th in the west until LeBron and other key players went down with extended injuries and he got canned. Frank inherited AD and they win a ring. The roster is fiddled with and injuries plagued the team again and they only managed getting into the play in before AD got hurt again. Then the remaining pieces of the championship squad are moved or allowed to walk, replaced by basically Russ and senior citizens. Injuries strike again and Frank is canned. These candidates have to be asking themselves, how much of a chance will I be given? Considering the roster will need to be overhauled yet again, I’m sure they must have some reservations. Who will the lucky guy be😂

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    • The flip side of your argument is the Los Angeles Lakers are still royalty when it comes to the NBA. The most superstars, the most championships, the greatest fanbase in league. Make it in LA and you’ve done it in the hardest place with the greatest pressure in the league. Nothing tops being a champion as a Laker and that’s not going to change. Our next great coach could be Darvin Ham.

    • I just hope the FO learned the lessons from the last coaching search…conducted just three short years ago….

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    Aloha,

    Long time Lakerholics may remember Dave Murphy’s excellent Searching for Slava blog. As it turns out Slava Medvendenko is currently fighting in the Ukraine. It kind of put our basketball obsessions in perspective. My prayers go out to Slava and his country.

    Slava found

    Aloha,

    Long time Lakerholics may remember Dave Murphy’s excellent Searching for Slava blog. As it turns out Slava Medvendenko is currently fighting in the Ukraine. It kind of put our basketball obsessions in perspective. My prayers go out to Slava and his country.

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    Aloha

    Regardless of what happens with trades there are two silver linings for the Lakers. First this is the tightest money market in the NBA in years. There will be talent that slips through the cracks. Whether it was a vet with a injury history looking to re-establish value like Otto Porter Jr last year or an under performing young player like Malik. The draw for the Lakers is if Lebron and AD are healthy playing with them will elevate their games on a large stage. And with so many open spots there will be a lot of minutes available that may not be there in other situations for these guys.

    I’m thinking of a Guy like TJ Warren that has only played 4 games in two years. I could easily see him sliding down to a vet minimum level. Olindipo is another guy that could free fall, although perhaps not all the way down to vet min status.

    Is there another Malik out there? I’m thinking Kevin Knox here. He has shown flashes of promise but he has a 8 mil qualifier and there is no way the cash strapped Hawks are going to pick that up. Another guy is Mo Bamba. His qualifier is over 10 mil. Again I don’t see the Magic picking that up. Another name to watch is Jalen Smith. Now he might be more of a mini mid level guy. He looked good for the Pacers but because the Suns declined his team option before the trade the Pacers can not offer him more then 5 mil.

    One other thing to watch is undrafted free agents. With the Lakers development reputation and roster spots galore we should be able to snag some best ones available.

    I would like to hear from you guys. Is there any free agents whether it’s an established guy or a young under performing one that you feel might be available on a vet minimum deal? Maybe we can compile a list and send it to Rob. Lol. What I don’t want to see over the hill 35 year olds chasing a ring.

    Two Silver linings

    Aloha

    Regardless of what happens with trades there are two silver linings for the Lakers. First this is the tightest money market in the NBA in years. There will be talent that slips through the cracks. Whether it was a vet with a injury history looking to re-establish value like Otto Porter Jr last year or an under performing young player like Malik. The draw for the Lakers is if Lebron and AD are healthy playing with them will elevate their games on a large stage. And with so many open spots there will be a lot of minutes available that may not be there in other situations for these guys.

    I’m thinking of a Guy like TJ Warren that has only played 4 games in two years. I could easily see him sliding down to a vet minimum level. Olindipo is another guy that could free fall, although perhaps not all the way down to vet min status.

    Is there another Malik out there? I’m thinking Kevin Knox here. He has shown flashes of promise but he has a 8 mil qualifier and there is no way the cash strapped Hawks are going to pick that up. Another guy is Mo Bamba. His qualifier is over 10 mil. Again I don’t see the Magic picking that up. Another name to watch is Jalen Smith. Now he might be more of a mini mid level guy. He looked good for the Pacers but because the Suns declined his team option before the trade the Pacers can not offer him more then 5 mil.

    One other thing to watch is undrafted free agents. With the Lakers development reputation and roster spots galore we should be able to snag some best ones available.

    I would like to hear from you guys. Is there any free agents whether it’s an established guy or a young under performing one that you feel might be available on a vet minimum deal? Maybe we can compile a list and send it to Rob. Lol. What I don’t want to see over the hill 35 year olds chasing a ring.

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    • Aloha, Michael,

      Great post. Despite the various areas of dysfunction, the Lakers scouting department led by the Buss brothers keeps coming up with players who can contribute and become solid rotation players. Reaves and Caruso are both excellent examples. Be great if we could find another this year.

      I’m not as high on the importance of minimum salary players. We had some good and some bad and that’s pretty much what you can expect from those players in my opinion. For every Monk, you have a couple of Jordans and Bradleys.

      More important to me is the performance of the three or four non-superstar, non-minimum salary players. Last season, we only had three – Westbrook, THT, and Nunn – and Russ and THT regressed while Nunn never made the floor.

      The Lakers will hopefully get two rotation players from trading Russ and a pick, one from trading THT and a pick, and two from their full MLE and BAE. To me, the benefit of getting the full $10.3M MLE and the $4.1M BAE are worth hard capping.

      Those are our five shots at landing legitimate rotation players this summer in my opinion. How good we will be will, of course, depend on LeBron and AD staying healthy and the non-superstar, non-minimum salary players coming through.

      • The big question to me is if we hard cap and have the $10.3M MLE and $4.1M BAE, do we go after one player for the MLE like Warren, Hartenstein, or Monk or do we try to get multiple players? Kind of like a mini version of the Russell Westbrook dilemma. What we are able to get in the trades will likely determine who and how we spend our MLE. I agree some good prospects will be available.

        • Thanks for reading Tom. While trades may or may not happen, I was more interested in finding options of guys that might slip through the cracks. If you have any names to watch I would love to hear them.

          • I think you’re right that there’s going to be more talent than money out there this summer. Most of the guys I like though are going to get more than the minimum.

            Here are the players I would be interested in pursuing with part (or in some cases, all) of the full MLE:

            Malik Monk
            T.J. Warren
            Victor Oladipo,
            Isaiah Hartenstein
            Bruce Brown
            Ricky Rubio,
            Tyus Jones
            Gary Payton II
            Joe Ingles
            P.J. Tucker
            Chris Boucher
            Otto Porter
            Nic Claxton.

            Love to hear your take on each one.
            I don’t know if any of these are going to make more than $10M.

    • Thanks for reading Buba. Warren is certainly intriguing but missing 2 years is going to hurt his value. I would take a shot on a vet minimum contract but I don’t think I would go more. We have two players that already are having health issues. That’s why trades for guys with injury histories like Gordon in Houston and Hayward in Charlotte make me nervous.

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    Aloha,

    James Harden has proven again that he is not in anyway a big time player. He shrank yet again in the playoffs. 4 for 9 and 11 points. And just 2 shots in the entire second half. One can have a bad shooting game and not score but it’s criminal not to at least take the shots when your season is on the line. The stupid thing is someone will pay him a lot of money. He is up for an extension this summer. Will the 76ers max him out? If they do they are doomed.

    By the way, please, please, please no Doc Rivers Lakers. His coaching was as dismal as Hardens game.

    James Harden

    Aloha,

    James Harden has proven again that he is not in anyway a big time player. He shrank yet again in the playoffs. 4 for 9 and 11 points. And just 2 shots in the entire second half. One can have a bad shooting game and not score but it’s criminal not to at least take the shots when your season is on the line. The stupid thing is someone will pay him a lot of money. He is up for an extension this summer. Will the 76ers max him out? If they do they are doomed.

    By the way, please, please, please no Doc Rivers Lakers. His coaching was as dismal as Hardens game.

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    • Other than enjoying some great basketball, we have to look for little blessings while we wait for next year like Harden imploding again in the playoffs and the Celtics blowing the series at home.

      And I don’t understand the fascination with Doc Rivers as the potential Lakers coach. If we’re going to have a bias in favor of former Lakers, we should also have a bias against anything that smells of Celtics.

      • Fortunately the 76ers announced that Doc will be back next year. That’s a relief. Lol

        • Great news, Michael. I could take almost anybody but Doc. Still think Lakers will end up with Quin but we’ll see. Kurt might be biggest worry right now. 😎

          • Agreed. Doc is washed up and needs to either straight retire or take some time away and get some R&R with the fam.

            Kurt hasn’t interviewed has he? Lord help us if he does because that’s the moment we can write off next season quicker than an accountant in March.

      • Celtics ain’t out yet…not going to celebrate early in the Sweet household, lol. Still, I don’t enjoy ‘misery loves company’ moments all that much. Would rather the team I like be playing to win rather than me rooting for teams I don’t like to lose.

      • Meanwhile, the Celts ain’t even giving us a 2nd thought. Doubt they even see us as rivals at this point. I mean…we’ve gotten outta the 1st round one time in the past decade.

    • James over Westbrook? I’d still go to battle with Russ. Two seasons ago I might have said differently…maybe…but I’ve never seen the dude play well when the moment demands it of him. He shrinks quicker than a Shrinky Dink in the oven. D-Mo unlikely to abandon his “basketball Jesus” (his words, not mine) so I don’t see them trading him when he opts in. Ain’t no “if” about that one. James needs to have extra dollars for the club he’s rehabbing his hamstring at.

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    Aloha

    Jokic just won the MVP, which I believe he deserves but it is somewhat frustrating for me. Between The Shaq years and the Pau years, Kobe had some of the most dominant years the league has ever seen. He was the undisputed best player in the world but didn’t win the MVP during that stretch. The logic was always, well his teams were not dominant. They weren’t very good. Well the Nuggets were not dominant, barely avoiding the play in game. While Jokic deserves the award, so did Kobe.

    The Joker wins MVP

    Aloha

    Jokic just won the MVP, which I believe he deserves but it is somewhat frustrating for me. Between The Shaq years and the Pau years, Kobe had some of the most dominant years the league has ever seen. He was the undisputed best player in the world but didn’t win the MVP during that stretch. The logic was always, well his teams were not dominant. They weren’t very good. Well the Nuggets were not dominant, barely avoiding the play in game. While Jokic deserves the award, so did Kobe.

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    • Valid argument since the Nuggets were not a great team.
      League needs to change title of award to Player of the Year.
      MVP just confuses voters. We have an award for the regular season and the finals but not for the entire year.

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    Aloha,

    If a team was every going to stretch a large contract it’s this one. If Russ gave up 5 mil in salary with the full MLE and Bi annual exception we could have up to 28 mil in spending power. Here are some names that I believe there salaries could fall to this year.

    6 to 10 mil guys.
    Malik tops my list because of all the 10 mil names he is the one guy I believe still has star potential. You could split the 10 mil between two decent guys but I would spend it on Malik. A few Other guys are.
    Chris Boucher PF Raptors
    Nurkic C Trailblazers
    Dennis Schroeder PG
    Bruce Brown G/F Nets
    Kyle Anderson PF Griz
    Tyrus Jones PG Griz

    Then there are the high risk high reward guys due to injury history. All these guys will probably be had for the 6 mil mini MLE or less
    TJ Warren SF Pacers
    Oladipo PG/SG Heat
    Thomas Bryant C Wizards
    Gary Harris SG
    Ricky Rubio PG (won’t be available until January at the earliest)
    I probably wouldn’t sign more than one of these guys.

    Other 6 mil and under guys

    Otto Porter Jr Combo forward Warriors
    Hartenstein C Clippers
    Damien Jones C Kings
    Bjelica C Warriors
    Muscala C
    That Young PF
    Delon Wright PG Hawks

    My favorite category is the next Malik. I think we should try and sign one guy to develop. These guys have all shown flashes but haven’t put it together yet.

    Kevin Knox SF 23 was a young player on a Thibs team. Which means little opportunities. He had moments with the Hawks but his qualifying offer is 9mil and the Hawks won’t do that. He could possibly fall all the way to vet min range.

    Jalen Smith PF 22 had his moments with the Suns and Pacer. Still he could actually be a bi annual candidate.
    Mo Bomba C. The number 2 overall pick played a little better after the trade but he will not get his 10 mil qualifying offer for sure.

    While Phil Handy has not been given an interview I would love to see him back to mentor these young guys.

    There are a lot of names out there and there will be a few solid players taking the Vet min. I’m interested in some of the other names out there that you guys are interested in. Try and stay at 10 mil or less guys. No Andre Ayton suggestions. lol

    More thoughts on stretching Russ

    Aloha,

    If a team was every going to stretch a large contract it’s this one. If Russ gave up 5 mil in salary with the full MLE and Bi annual exception we could have up to 28 mil in spending power. Here are some names that I believe there salaries could fall to this year.

    6 to 10 mil guys.
    Malik tops my list because of all the 10 mil names he is the one guy I believe still has star potential. You could split the 10 mil between two decent guys but I would spend it on Malik. A few Other guys are.
    Chris Boucher PF Raptors
    Nurkic C Trailblazers
    Dennis Schroeder PG
    Bruce Brown G/F Nets
    Kyle Anderson PF Griz
    Tyrus Jones PG Griz

    Then there are the high risk high reward guys due to injury history. All these guys will probably be had for the 6 mil mini MLE or less
    TJ Warren SF Pacers
    Oladipo PG/SG Heat
    Thomas Bryant C Wizards
    Gary Harris SG
    Ricky Rubio PG (won’t be available until January at the earliest)
    I probably wouldn’t sign more than one of these guys.

    Other 6 mil and under guys

    Otto Porter Jr Combo forward Warriors
    Hartenstein C Clippers
    Damien Jones C Kings
    Bjelica C Warriors
    Muscala C
    That Young PF
    Delon Wright PG Hawks

    My favorite category is the next Malik. I think we should try and sign one guy to develop. These guys have all shown flashes but haven’t put it together yet.

    Kevin Knox SF 23 was a young player on a Thibs team. Which means little opportunities. He had moments with the Hawks but his qualifying offer is 9mil and the Hawks won’t do that. He could possibly fall all the way to vet min range.

    Jalen Smith PF 22 had his moments with the Suns and Pacer. Still he could actually be a bi annual candidate.
    Mo Bomba C. The number 2 overall pick played a little better after the trade but he will not get his 10 mil qualifying offer for sure.

    While Phil Handy has not been given an interview I would love to see him back to mentor these young guys.

    There are a lot of names out there and there will be a few solid players taking the Vet min. I’m interested in some of the other names out there that you guys are interested in. Try and stay at 10 mil or less guys. No Andre Ayton suggestions. lol

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    • One thing I haven’t seen mentioned about Monk is that he’s proven that he can thrive while playing with this version of Lebron. That’s not an easy feat and it’s partly what made losing Caruso so painful. You HAVE to have guys who know how to get in where they fit in and Monk was particularly adept at it. That fact alone makes him very valuable and less of a risk than bringing in a new guy who may or may not be able to adapt to Lebron. It ain’t for everyone… Perfect example were the dudes who surrounded Kobe on those back-to-back teams. Pau, LO, D-Fish, Metta/Ariza, Drew….they weren’t nearly the best players in the league but they knew what was needed to mesh with Kobe. That’s half the battle when playing with some of these transcendent mega-stars.

      • I agree. And Monk did it with little effort on a Franks part to utilize his skills and expand his role some. A smart coach will see a guy that can get you 18 to 20 a night. Not the greatest defender, but he try’s which is what you need to see.

    • Aloha, Michael,

      “If a team was every going to stretch a large contract it’s this one. If Russ gave up 5 mil in salary with the full MLE and Bi annual exception we could have up to 28 mil in spending power. Here are some names that I believe there salaries could fall to this year.”

      Wish that were true as that’s a pretty good list of free agents. Unfortunately, buying out Russ for $42M and then only taking a $14M hit to the salary cap does not open up $28M in money to spend. It just spreads the $42M over three years.

      Waiving and stretching Russ is not going to create any cap space for free agents. We would still be over the cap even if we renounced Reaves, Johnson, and Gabriel. The only money we will have for free agents will be our $6.4M MLE. If we hardcap ourselves, we could then have the full $10M MLE and $4M BAE, which is 8M more than without hard cap.

      I do agree with you that it makes sense to hard cap ourselves so we can get an additional $8M to spend on free agents. That could be a big difference maker for this roster. Hard cap is almost a necessity.

      Here’s a breakdown on what the Lakers would have available in the form of cap space were they to waive and stretch Russ.

      Please let me know if I have any of the numbers incorrect. Easy to make mistakes with this salary cap stuff.

      Russ makes $47,063,478 if he declines his player option. Taking away $5,000,000 million for buyout would leave $42,063,478, which would then cost the Lakers $14,021,159.33 in dead money per year for three years.

      Here’s our salary cap situation

      Russell Westbrook: $14,021,159
      1. LeBron James: $44,474,988
      2. Anthony Davis: $37,980,720
      3. Talen Horton-Tucker: $10,260,000
      4. Kendrick Nunn: $5,250,000

      Total Guaranteed: $111,986,867

      5. Stanley Johnson: $2,351,521
      6. Wenyen Gabriel: $1,878,720
      7. Austin Reaves: $1,563,518

      Total Not Guaranteed: $5,793,759

      8. Rookie Minimum $1,004,159
      9. Rookie Minimum $1,004,159
      10. Rookie Minimum $1,004,159
      11. Rookie Minimum $1,004,159
      12. Rookie Minimum $1,004,159

      Cap Holds to 12 Roster Spots: $5,020,795

      Total Salaries: $122,801,421
      Salary Cap: $122,000,000

      Lakers will be over the salary cap by $2,801,421

      They could save $2,781,282 by not guaranteeing Johnson, Gabriel, and Reaves, but that would still leave them $20,139 over the salary cap.

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    Aloha,

    While everyone would love to see a Westbrook trade that would bring back a couple of decent players, there is no guarantee that a trade will materialize. You look at all the teams that might want to shed salary, there is reason to believe they could shed those contracts without having to eat to Westbrooks huge contract. A lot of those players maybe useful to other teams.

    So what should the Lakers do if a trade does not materialize? Everything I’ve read so far doesn’t close the door on a waive and stretch. Now Russ probably won’t leave a lot of money on the table unless his agent finds a deal, but at least for now, that doesn’t look likely. But just to get out of the Lakers would he be willing to give up say 5 mil? If so this will be the best year in the next few to have money to spend. Money will be near historically tight this summer. The wave and stretch would give us about 13 mil in cap space. Plus we would have the full 10.2 MLE and the 4 mil bi annual to spend. That’s 27 mil and this year that could be huge. It is conceivable we could actually come away with a better, deeper group then some of these trades. The added bonus of course we would maintain our trade assets. Now it will be hard to become a contender but we could easily be a much better group.

    The Stretch

    Aloha,

    While everyone would love to see a Westbrook trade that would bring back a couple of decent players, there is no guarantee that a trade will materialize. You look at all the teams that might want to shed salary, there is reason to believe they could shed those contracts without having to eat to Westbrooks huge contract. A lot of those players maybe useful to other teams.

    So what should the Lakers do if a trade does not materialize? Everything I’ve read so far doesn’t close the door on a waive and stretch. Now Russ probably won’t leave a lot of money on the table unless his agent finds a deal, but at least for now, that doesn’t look likely. But just to get out of the Lakers would he be willing to give up say 5 mil? If so this will be the best year in the next few to have money to spend. Money will be near historically tight this summer. The wave and stretch would give us about 13 mil in cap space. Plus we would have the full 10.2 MLE and the 4 mil bi annual to spend. That’s 27 mil and this year that could be huge. It is conceivable we could actually come away with a better, deeper group then some of these trades. The added bonus of course we would maintain our trade assets. Now it will be hard to become a contender but we could easily be a much better group.

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    Aloha,

    Evidently Phil Jackson is fully engaged along with Kurt in the Lakers head coaching search. While Phil was one of the greatest coaches of all time, he was also one of the Greatest flops as a GM. Ya, we’re doomed.

    Triangle anyone?

    Aloha,

    Evidently Phil Jackson is fully engaged along with Kurt in the Lakers head coaching search. While Phil was one of the greatest coaches of all time, he was also one of the Greatest flops as a GM. Ya, we’re doomed.

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    • This is why I continue to ask…why would a top-notch coach want to walk into this mess? If we can all see it as fans from the outside then you gotta wonder what’s being said inside among the coaching fraternity? The culture here is borderline toxic right now.

      • The answer, which will differ among players and coaches, is they’re the Los Angeles Lakers, the most profitable and second most valuable franchise in the league with 17 NBA championships and two top-five players.

        There’s a belief you’re not the best until you do it in the toughest or biggest markets. For basketball, that’s the Lakers. We’ve been able to win despite not being run by the sharpest tools in the shed. So far that is.

        Are their some players or coaches who don’t want to play for or coach the Lakers? Certainly but that is balanced by others who embrace the challenge of winning on the biggest and baddest stage. Lakers, Yankees! It can be a blessing or a curse. Stern would never have voided a trade for the Celtics or Knicks.

        • Probably have to continue maybe winning with tools of a lesser sharpness at this point…

        • I’m guessing guys like Pop, Jerry Sloan, Chuck Daly Steve Kerr, & even Erik Spoelstra would beg to differ (all members of the Top 15 All Time and from smaller markets). This ain’t the Lakers of Dr. Buss, Jerry West, & Riles and they haven’t been for some time now. We’ve been to the playoffs 3 times in the last decade and advanced past the 1st round only once (in the Bogus Bubble Covid Cup exhibition tournament). Who’s the great coach who felt the need to leave their current situation to “prove themselves” here? It wasn’t Phil…he was already out of coaching before he came here the 1st time. Matter of fact…outside of Phil, what top coach was ever drawn here? The list of guys who said “no” is probably far more distinguished. Time for folks to wake up and see this job for what it really is….

          • I believe The everyone wants to be a Laker is something perpetuated by the franchise. After we landed Shaq as a free agent we couldn’t get another star free agent to come until LeBron, 20 years later. And after LeBron arrived we couldn’t land another star free agent even though we had the cap space. There is a lot more that goes into a free agents decision then just the teams legacy.

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    Aloha,

    There are two reasons why trading Russ will be harder and likely more expensive.

    1. Internal Laker leaks reporting the tension between Russ and the coaching staff.

    2. Westbrooks own big mouth.

    Everyone in the NBA, with the exception of apparently the Lakers, knew that Russ was a poor fit for LeBron and Franks system. If it was left at that there might have been GM’s that could think that their system and players would be a better fit.

    Instead you have Laker insiders reporting of the classes with the coaching staff and Russ. They painted a picture of a player that was un-coachable. Exactly what purpose does that serve? You can always tell when an organization is toxic and dysfunctional because of all these leaks. One thing about Mitch, there never was these kind of reports coming out.

    Then Russ goes off on an unhinged toxic exit interview. Many of the reporters wrote that they had never seen anything like it before.

    Russ still has skills and could probably help the right team but no GM wants to bring a malcontent into their organization. The Lakers will pay for this and so will Russ, when it’s time for his next contract. .

    Two reasons

    Aloha,

    There are two reasons why trading Russ will be harder and likely more expensive.

    1. Internal Laker leaks reporting the tension between Russ and the coaching staff.

    2. Westbrooks own big mouth.

    Everyone in the NBA, with the exception of apparently the Lakers, knew that Russ was a poor fit for LeBron and Franks system. If it was left at that there might have been GM’s that could think that their system and players would be a better fit.

    Instead you have Laker insiders reporting of the classes with the coaching staff and Russ. They painted a picture of a player that was un-coachable. Exactly what purpose does that serve? You can always tell when an organization is toxic and dysfunctional because of all these leaks. One thing about Mitch, there never was these kind of reports coming out.

    Then Russ goes off on an unhinged toxic exit interview. Many of the reporters wrote that they had never seen anything like it before.

    Russ still has skills and could probably help the right team but no GM wants to bring a malcontent into their organization. The Lakers will pay for this and so will Russ, when it’s time for his next contract. .

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    • Good post, Michael. There’s no question that the Lakers’ ownership, front office, and coaching staff have made a lot of poor decisions the past two years that should make any player or coach thinking about joining the team have second thoughts.

      We’re just fortunate that we have such an illustrious legacy, history, market, and fanbase that we can often overcome our own misfortunes to win regardless. Truth is we’ve left championships on the table because of incompetence.

      Will that apply to teams looking to trade for Russell Westbrook? For those teams who might be thinking Russ they might be able to get a good year out of Russ, hope they didn’t see Russ this past season or hear his exit comments. Russ hasn’t helped his case. He’s essentially closed the door on returning to the Lakers, which other teams cleary see and note.

      Fortunately, most of the teams who will be interested in trading for Russ are doing so as a financial transaction and plan on buying Russ out or flipping him at the trade deadline. None of the teams the Lakers are likely to trade Russ to – Pacers, Hornets, Knicks, Thunder, Pistons, and Rockets – are trading for Russ the player. They’re trading for Russ the expiring contract.

      I’m more worried about how the Lakers dysfunction could adversely affect the coaching search or recruiting free agents with our MLE or, if we hard cap, our BAE. Those are the places where our incompetence can negatively impact us.

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    Aloha,

    Of course the big topic of conversation is going to be trades going forward. There are a nauseating number of trade scenarios with the same players involved. One doesn’t know what will happen moving forward but when examining the usual suspects I can’t see trades alone as catapulting the Lakers into contention. If we had to give up picks to make these trades work, I would almost rather take the OKC option and send Russ there. We could waive and stretch Favors and maybe land a solid 3 and D wing in Kenrich Williams. That would leave us with around 20 mil in cap space plus the full MLE and the bi annual exception. We could retain Malik and still add someone like TJ Warren or Porter Jr, and have money left over to fill out the roster.

    All of these other trades alone will not be enough. Even the OKC deal I mentioned won’t be enough. There is a lot of talk about turning THT and Nunn into a quality player. The problem is team control. Rob bowed to Klutch when he gave THT a player option in the 3rd year of his contract. So in essence he can be a free agent after this year. And Nunn will be a free agent with only early bird rights. So how much will another team be willing to give up? Yes THT has shown promise but if he has a great year he could be gone. So I’m not holding my breath.

    But let’s say we do land one of these trade packages for Russ. I think a lot of other things would need to happen for us to contend. First, all of these young players we have under contract would need to take serious growth spurts, including THT if we keep him which at this point is at least even odds that we do. Nunn assuming he is here again even odds, will have to be healthy and realize the promise he showed in camp last fall.

    Then there needs to be luck. Rob really needs to do a better job with free agents. With tight money this summer, quality may trickle down. We need to hit a home run with the mini MLE. Whether it’s keeping a Malik or a quality player slipping through the cracks we need a big score there. Then we need a big surprise like Malik was. Could that be a guy like a Kevin Knox? Like Malik, he has flashed potential but not enough for the Hawks to retain him. I expect he will hit free agency. I would like Rob to gamble on at least one roster spot. It would also be great to find a 2 way guy with Promise like Austin.

    It will be an interesting summer for sure but it will take a lot more than trades and good health for this team to rise to serious contenders.

    More than trades

    Aloha,

    Of course the big topic of conversation is going to be trades going forward. There are a nauseating number of trade scenarios with the same players involved. One doesn’t know what will happen moving forward but when examining the usual suspects I can’t see trades alone as catapulting the Lakers into contention. If we had to give up picks to make these trades work, I would almost rather take the OKC option and send Russ there. We could waive and stretch Favors and maybe land a solid 3 and D wing in Kenrich Williams. That would leave us with around 20 mil in cap space plus the full MLE and the bi annual exception. We could retain Malik and still add someone like TJ Warren or Porter Jr, and have money left over to fill out the roster.

    All of these other trades alone will not be enough. Even the OKC deal I mentioned won’t be enough. There is a lot of talk about turning THT and Nunn into a quality player. The problem is team control. Rob bowed to Klutch when he gave THT a player option in the 3rd year of his contract. So in essence he can be a free agent after this year. And Nunn will be a free agent with only early bird rights. So how much will another team be willing to give up? Yes THT has shown promise but if he has a great year he could be gone. So I’m not holding my breath.

    But let’s say we do land one of these trade packages for Russ. I think a lot of other things would need to happen for us to contend. First, all of these young players we have under contract would need to take serious growth spurts, including THT if we keep him which at this point is at least even odds that we do. Nunn assuming he is here again even odds, will have to be healthy and realize the promise he showed in camp last fall.

    Then there needs to be luck. Rob really needs to do a better job with free agents. With tight money this summer, quality may trickle down. We need to hit a home run with the mini MLE. Whether it’s keeping a Malik or a quality player slipping through the cracks we need a big score there. Then we need a big surprise like Malik was. Could that be a guy like a Kevin Knox? Like Malik, he has flashed potential but not enough for the Hawks to retain him. I expect he will hit free agency. I would like Rob to gamble on at least one roster spot. It would also be great to find a 2 way guy with Promise like Austin.

    It will be an interesting summer for sure but it will take a lot more than trades and good health for this team to rise to serious contenders.

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    • Aloha, Michael,

      Execellent post and point about this summer. I agree 100% that the Lakers are going to need more than trades to contend next season. Frankly, they’re going to need a perfect storm of smart decisions, right players, good health, and lucky bounces like we had in the bubble to win it all. Not that that isn’t always a major but looking at the way the Lakers are going and the way the league is going, next year could be our best shot in this decade to win another title. And we’re going to be top ten candidate at best based on last year and our current situation.

      But enough for reality. There’s no question the Lakers will have chances to move Russ. We’ll have to be lucky with the musical chairs but hopefully we’ll get a deal for Russ. I think if we can trade Russ for Hield and Brogdon, that could be the big move and maybe without a pick. There’s a part of me that also thinks looking for a sign-and-trade could open up chances to use the full MLE and BAE, which could get us two better rotation players.

      Anyway, I’d feel a lot more comfortable if we had somebody other than Rob making the decisions and better contributors than Jeanie, Kurt, and Linda chiming in but it is what it is. Rob just needs to make smart moves. Hopefully, we’ll get dealt four aces and Rob will understand now is the time to go all in.

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    Aloha

    I’m stepping down as an editor for this blog. I’m really tired of the insults. Being a used of having a boy toy affair by Tom just because I have a high opinion of Malik Monk was just too much. Aloha.

    Stepping down

    Aloha

    I’m stepping down as an editor for this blog. I’m really tired of the insults. Being a used of having a boy toy affair by Tom just because I have a high opinion of Malik Monk was just too much. Aloha.

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    • I appreciate it DJ but I think remarks with sexual connotations is crossing the line in what’s acceptable to me.

    • I’m sorry to hear this Michael, I must have missed that exchange but know that Sean also felt. Tom can have a heavy-handed way of enforcing his points and ideas without allowing for many other viewpoints to be seen in the same light. I don’t think he intends for some of those things to come off as being insulting but they do. Sean had a similar issue in a podcast , which I personally believe he took too far but also who am I to say how another person should feel or think? At any rate I do how you reconsider or at the very least continue to pop by from time to time. Regardless of the choice you make keep on enjoying life, be well and go Lakers.

    • I have apologized to Michael for my hurtful comment and have asked him to reconsider remaining as Blog Editor. I also explained that I never intended to accuse him of any sexual connection with Malik Monk and should have not used the words I did. I was trying to say he was just infatuated with a great young Lakers player much like I was with THT and then also with Monk. At any rate, my apologies for this happening. It’s my fault and I accept responsibility and will try hard not to allow it to happen again. I do hope Michael will accept my apology and reconsider. If not, my best wishes to him and he will always be welcome to return. Thanks.

    • I accept your apology Tom. One can strongly disagree with another but I just believe that the blog should be free of name calling and personal attacks. I feel this can result in greater participation amongst those in that visit the blog.

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    Aloha,

    I was thinking about LeBron and his extension. He has stated that he won’t take less then a max salary. If that’s true he needs to either sign an extension this off season, sign a new contract after next season with the Lakers or ask for a trade this summer. There will not be a team with the kind of cap space it would require to sign him to a max contract in free agency. And at close to 50 mil I doubt a team would want to do a sign and trade that would hard cap them.

    From the Lakers stand point of course they will try to sign him. But the question remains, should they? Even if both AD and LeBron had relatively healthy seasons, it’s hard to see a path to becoming true contenders with any of the Westbrook trade scenarios. The Lakers really need to be careful this summer or the could screw the franchise for years to come.

    Lebron’s extension

    Aloha,

    I was thinking about LeBron and his extension. He has stated that he won’t take less then a max salary. If that’s true he needs to either sign an extension this off season, sign a new contract after next season with the Lakers or ask for a trade this summer. There will not be a team with the kind of cap space it would require to sign him to a max contract in free agency. And at close to 50 mil I doubt a team would want to do a sign and trade that would hard cap them.

    From the Lakers stand point of course they will try to sign him. But the question remains, should they? Even if both AD and LeBron had relatively healthy seasons, it’s hard to see a path to becoming true contenders with any of the Westbrook trade scenarios. The Lakers really need to be careful this summer or the could screw the franchise for years to come.

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    • The assumption is that the Buss family’s ultimate goal is to win the title…they’ve shown in the past (and recently) that it isn’t. The business side is just as important and Lebron is great for business. They’ll pay what it takes to keep him here and continue to fill the arena, appear on national tv games, and rake in the money…title or no title. They did the same thing with Kobe’s last contract and proceeded to be the worst team in the league for about 5 seasons iirc. Time is always on the side of ownership.

      • Mongo is spot on. The Laker PR machine is all about title talk. The Lakers as a team are all about making sure star players know they have perks here. Input, play out your days in max deals, pick your locker.

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