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Thanks for the Fiver, Jamie. Never fun to have to write about a disappointing loss.
But let’s put this loss into proper perspective. First, these are not your ‘normal’ New York Knicks and Julius Randle is not the same player the Lakers allowed to walk away without an offer.
New management and a great coach in Tom Thibodaux have changed the Knicks from a perennial laughing stock to a team with a top five NBA defense. Thibs cleatly outcoached Vogel in this game. He doubled our bigs and dared us to shoot well from outside. Instead of spreading the floor, we continued to try to post up Dre and Trezz and Dennis continued to try and drive into a crowd in the paint. We played right into Thibs hands and never countered his defensive strategy.
Combine an offensively challenged Lakers team playing on the road against the Knicks, a legitimate second best defensive team in the league, and the odds should have favored NY more than just 2 points as we saw in the game. This is a formula for a blow out loss by the Lakers. Poor offense vs. good defense is a turnover machine as we saw.
Add a true All-Star player looking for revenge against the team that drafted and then discarded him and you get what we saw. Randle dominiated, the Lakers stuggled and never adjusted, and the Knicks won going away with nothing but scrubs on the floor the last few minutes.
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Agreed LRob, Dennis does not get the whistles on his drives and contact he creates that many of the top players do. Whether that’s a byproduct of being on the Lakers, the manner in which he draws contact or what is a mystery.
Kyrie is one odd bird, the foul call on him was legit, maybe he was griping too much, maybe not. Over-reaction by the ref? in the NBA?! Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaw! Oh wait, that’s probably exactly what the deal was, lol.
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Great Fiver, Jamie. And the game was a needed breath of fresh air and hope for Lakers fans. What I loved most was zero intimidation. Not when the game started. Not when they fell behind by 4 late in the first quarter and then fought back to get the lead. Not when the dumb ref kicked Dennis out with only a 4-point lead. In fact, our response to the ejections compared to the Net’s reaction said everything about which team wanted this game more.
1. The ejections. Agree 100% that Dennis should not have been ejected. Waving good bye to Kyrie is not taunting. This is like suspending THT for coming a feet onto the court. The league needs to look at these situations with some common sense.
2. The run. Have to give the Lakers credit for not folding when they lost Dennis, who had been having his best game of the year. Lots of credit goes to THT for his playmaking and running the offense but the entire team responded like they had done all game long. I’m hoping this was one of those transcendent moments on the road when this team said enough is enough.
3. Ben! It’s actually rare when a team can add a player via the buyout market who becomes a real difference maker. The Lakers were able to do that last year with Markieff Morris. This year, it looks like Rob was a magician as he appears to have landed not one but two difference makers in Dre and Ben. Every Lakers fans needs to realize we would NOT have won that game without Dre and Ben. Not taking away from the rest of the team but they were the Calvary that gave this team newfound confidence.
4. 8 players in double figures. Right on, Jamie. Balance is a bitch for teams to handle, especially teams who don’t play good defense. Lakers dominated like they were playing the Kings. The defense was great, doubling KD and forcing him into 8 turnovers and shutting down Brooklyn’s 3-point shooting to 0-15 for the second half. Message and Finals preview sent to Nets.
5. Buyout Blues. Ef the small market teams. Don ‘t they remember they were the ones who negotiated these buyouts. Want to blame somebody, blame the Cavs and Piston’s front offices. Don’t blame the Lakers. There’s enough allowing the tail to wag the dog already. Enough with the losers trying to dictate more advantages. They’re being carried enough already.
Lakers need to keep this mojo going tonight and tomorrow night. Can’t allow any letdown and blow two winnable games. Finish the road trip with a pair of blowout wins and a 5-2 record.
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I think we lose to the Knicks, sorry to say. They’re right there with us defensively, have been solid all season and Randle will be motivated. It will be interesting to see how the willowy Nerlens Noel does against Dre’. If Dre can bully the Knicks frontline like he did the Nets we have a better shot but the real issue is I feel like the Knicks will really force us off the three point line with solid close outs. A matchup of two defensive titans, neither team might score over 90, lol.
In regards to the small market whiners, as you know I’m fond of saying: them’s the rules. Don’t like them? The only way it can be fair is to either add a caveat like the MLB has (toss a draft pick to the team you’re buying out from, 2nd rounder only) or simply do-away with the buyout market altogether. The small market teams are the ones that want to curtail player movement, hoard more of the CBA and tilt the playing field towards them even more than it already is. So, if the GMs of those respective teams find the job of managing the salary cap too difficult, end buyouts and see how GM’s look to structure contracts. Heck, add a “no buyout” clause or something to that effect. But once freed there should be no limits on what team a player chooses. They are now unrestricted free agents and can sign anywhere. It’s absurd.
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Jamie Sweet: “Tuesday sees the Lakers face off against the resurgent Knickerbockers and one Julius Randle. Should be a good game and if we can turn in the same effort as we did against the Nets we should be competitive. That’s all any of us can ask.”
It must be tough to be a GHE fan, always expecting the worst. The best we can hope for is a competitive game? LMAO. Come on, Jamie. Have some faith in this team.
Lakers will win by a blowout.
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You’re welcome Buba! I feel like I’ve done 5,822 Fivers on our turnovers this season but it was a huge reason for the loss. You’re right, and in all honesty this was probably an overly harsh Five Things, but Miami had it’s key guys healthy and we had a skeleton crew so this was as close to a guaranteed loss as one could cook up. The guys did fight hard, KCP had one of his better games in a good long while, and Drummond did have a positive impact.
I can also understand where some fans don’t see Miami as a “threat” but that reality is that, when we’re healthy, few teams are a true threat to the Lakers…in a seven game series. Any team can get hot, or we can show up with a dud of a game, in a one game affair which is why the notion of falling as far as the pla-in seedings is a concern. But in 7 games I like our chances against 90% of the League. Where I disagree is that Miami was a pushover NBA Finals opponent because that denigrates our accomplishment of winning it. The two best teams that season met in the NBA Finals and I’ll leave it right there.
Also, in regards to Drummond, this will be one of the few teams he’s not expected to be the best player so I hope it helps him relax. While he’s a terrible career free throw shooter he shot them well enough the other night. My hope is he can settle into a solid support role and give us the power down low that drove the team to the NBA Finals and beyond last season.
Schroder. Man what a mystery that dude is these days. Can’t fault his intensity, can’t fault his trying to make an impact but he just…can’t do it. It shows the step one needs to take to make the leap from good to great. He wants to be paid like a great but, in my opinion, is only really good. His defense alone isn’t enough to justify the payday he’s looking for and his offense is too streaky. Needs to learn how to consistently get to the line when he drives and gets Mac trucked to the floor, which is often. We’ll see how that situation resolves but it’s something to watch this summer.
At any rate, this frustrating stretch has to come with the caveat of reminding ourselves that this team was not designed to absorb this many games without James and Davis. I remind myself every game, every day but still get frustrated with the on court play. Especially the turnovers. AT any rate, hoping we can trap the Nets and win this one but feeling like a big blowout is just over the hill in the form of a healthy Kevin Durant.
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Good Fiver, Jamie. And no, you weren’t too harse.
1. Don’t pimp the Heat either. They’re a .500 team who won’t sniff the NBA Finals this year. 6th place just 2 games over .500 is about where they belong. The fact they had to struggle to beat the undermanned Lakers just confirms that. As does the fact they have Ariza, Iguodala, and Oladipo playing key roles.
2. Fouls. I agree the zebras were out of control and heavily favored the Heat, especially in the first quarter. But Lakers did adjust and didn’t foul in the second quarter. I’m reminded of how KD was laughing at all the pointers on drawing fouls that he’s already gotten from James Harden. Are you listening, Dennnis?
3. Dennis’ shrinking contract. Much as I love some of what Dennis brings, he’s seriously flawed as the primary point guard on the team. In truth, OKC had him in the right role coming off the bench rather than starting. Lakers should have traded him. Now there’s a chance they let him walk, which is better than overpaying him and then not being able to trade him.
4. KCP had a great game. Like Dennis was why we lost, Kenny was why we were in the game. Like I’ve been harping, against teams without superstars (Sorry, Jimmy), this team is confident and plays like it. Against teams with superstars, they come out intimidated and beaten. I keep hoping they’ll prove me wrong but so far it’s been like their forumla. We’ll see how today goes.
5. I thought there were positive signs with Dre. Problem is he clogs up the paint on offense and makes it easier for teams to shut down our drivers. Part of why Dennis could not finish. Always two of three guys in the paint makes less lanes to the rim and more bodies to navigate around. Would have liked to see Gasol out there shooting threes to open things up but we know the Lakers don’t play that way…until the playoffs with AD.
Finally, one of the defects in building this team was not having enough playmakers and shot creators for when LeBron or AD or both were not in the game. And it’s not like we just surrounded LeBron and AD with volume 3-point shooters. Hope for the best but plan for the worst. Dennis and Trezz looked like golden finds when we started the season. Now not so much.
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I’m still high on Trezz but we may not be the best fit for him. We saw what he’s capable of when fully unleashed and it’s a fairly consistent line. 18+ ppg 8+ rpg and 110% effort. Ask him to do less and he fades into the background a little too much. Great player, just maybe not on this current version of the Lakers.
Agree 1,645% on Dennis Schroder. OKC knew EXACTLY where he needed to be. however I am also a big believer in guys upping their games. Up until now I haven’t watched a ton of Dennis on the court. Like we both agree, solid defender and decent enough ball handler. When he’s on the floor with James he is essentially the off guard. It’s when he has to shoulder the load of managing the team, getting his own offense and playing solid D that one of the three of those falls to the wayside. Great players don’t let any aspect of their game slip. OK, the defensive end is where most slippage occurs (see Harden, James) but thy don’t shrink from the moment when it comes to scoring. We have like five players that do that. Are we re-signing J.R. Smith for the playoff run or what?
Lastly, as we’ve discussed on multiple podcasts, not only is Jimmy Butler a legit two-way superstar who creates for his team in the same mold as Harden, James, etc. but his team has been ravaged by injuries and COVID far more than the Lakers have. So you can keep right on sleeping on Jimmy B and the Heat but that is one train that will be departing the station without me on it. They would play the Bucks as of today. I would worry about Giannis at this point, the Heat are for real.
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LOL. We’ll have to A2D on Heat and not taking anything away from the Lakers championship. Didn’t have to play anybody other than the Heat more than 5 games. Had the Clippers and Bucks been in the way, they might have taken us to a 7th game. Heat are what they were: a very good but not great team.
As for Dennis, I agree part of his problem is he’s not a lead guard who can run the offense. He’s too 1-dimensional and predictable offensively. Even with his quickness and speed, teams can put up walls to stop him or funnel him down a fixed path. Like with Giannis.
With LeBron, Dennis has a much different role. Were we to trade for a true lead guard like Lowry, who can take care of the ball, playmake, and shoot the three, Dennis could be valuable as the shooting guard. Of course, it comes down to money at the end. The talk from Woj about the Lakers wanting to clear up future cap space is probably valid. I doubt the Lakers are willing to pay $100 million in taxes. The approach is they can find a way to win without having to do that as the money itself is no guarantee. That’s Pelinka’s job. So they might just let Dennis walk and use the money on cheaper options and THT and Caruso.
As for Trezz, the big problem is his game is old school on a team that needs floor spacers. Look at what’s happened with Dwight in Philly. The Sixers cannot play him with Ben Simmons because then they have no spacing as teams just clog the paint. Frank’s a great defensive coach but he’s slow to adapt to the value of spacing in the modern game. The answer is not for LeBron and AD to shoot more threes. It’s to surround them with players who are high volume, high percentage 3-point shooters.
You can’t refuse a gift horse like Trezz for the MLE but there’s a point where rent-a-center and rent-a-point-guard strategies need to end. The Lakers hoped Dennis was a shot at solving the longterm point guard problem but it’s becoming more and more obvious that he’s not the right player. We’re on thin ice overrelying on LeBron to play the point. That’s why I thought it was a big mistake not to trade for Lowry.
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We’ll see if the banner they hang has an asterisk on it with the caveat *ONLY beat the Miami Heat, sorry everyone*
I doubt it will. Sleep on the Heat if you choose.
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Great fiver, Jamie.
1. Looks like signing Dre really lit a fire under Marc, which frankly needed to be lit. His play has dramatically improved and it’s good to see him now saying the right things about being ready for whatever. I don’t think it’s a slam dunk that Dre is the starter.
2. The good think about the THT/AC pairing is that it balances the offense and defense. It works by having THT be the point guard and force to score and distribute the ball and Alex be the defensive ace rather than trying to be a point guard. Both played well last night. It was good to see Alex shoot the three. He was emulating KCP too much and trying not to hurt his percentage.
3. Despite his age, Wes can still defend, which means he will get some minutes at key points in the playoffs no matter what. If he can hit his shots and even penetrate once in a while, som much the better. The key will all there guys are can they not shrink when we play the better teams with superstars. Next man doesn’t work when it’s only against poor teams.
4. Trezz. Have to love him sticking up for Dennis. Every team needs that so I give him a pass for getting kicked out although it’s almost always the first guy who escalates the situation who gets the boot along with the original perp.
5. Devontae showed more than Kostas has shown regarding our two-way players. Don’t see either of them making waves or getting minutes when the games count. Time maybe to move on from both next season.
Miami will be interesting. I have us now winning all the next four games except for the Nets. The Heat have been a Jekyll and Hyde team. They lost to Memphis on Tuesday after winning 4 straight, after losing 6 straight, after winning 5 straight. If the pattern holds, they should lose.
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Raps putting a skeleton crew out there tonight: Lowry, VanVleet, Hood, McCaw, Watson, and Harris are all OUT tonight for the Raptors.
Hope we can shoot straight…
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This is an awesome read and gets into the nitty gritty on various issues the Lakers will have retaining the upcoming crop of free agents. Enjoy!
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Great read from Eric Pincus who projects the Lakers trying to use the non-taxpayer MLE to re-sign Andre Drummond for $9.5M, which would then hard cap them. Kind of rejects Jeanie Buss’ comments about not being afraid to pay luxury taxes to keep team together but bug difference between $10M and $100M in taxes. We’ll have to see.
Personally, I don’t see the Lakers taking the route Eric outlined unless Andre Drummond turns out to be the savior at centers the Lakers need. For me, Jeannie’s not going to be satisfied with a step back win or lose this season because LeBron James window is closing and who knows what is in store for the Lakers once he’s gone. I say Jerannie goes all-in.
The hard cap does provide a convenient excuse for remaining fiscally conservative but I think there are better fitting and impacting options at center than Andre Drummond. Maybe Dre can prove me wrong but I seriously doubt it. My best guess is there’s no way Drummond is going to stay for $9.5M or Harrell for $11.1M. Time will tell.
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Yeah, I read them all because I think Eric knows what he is doing. I don’t find any of them to be paths I would follow because…
1. I don’t see Drummond as the answer or him at 27 taking just $10.9M.
2. I don’t see us not making major improvements with LeBron at 36.
3. I don’t see us hard capping for any reason as it guarantees we can’t upgrade team.
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Thanks, Jamie,
Some choice excerpts from the article that echo what I’ve been saying in the recent podcasts:
Lesson One:
Montrezl Harrell and Talen Horton-Tucker competed for the Los Angeles Lakers. That’s a good thing right?
Talen Horton-Tucker needs to be in the starting lineup.
Lesson Two:
Kyle Kuzma followed his best game of the season with one of his worst!
Oh you thought Kyle Kuzma was not aggressive? Read on to see how Alex Caruso and Kentavious Caldwell-Pope did. They were worse!
Lesson Three:
The Los Angeles Lakers got virtually nothing from KCP and Alex Caruso in the scoring column.
Remember when Alex Caruso was supposed to be the Lakers’ “Secret weapon” and one of the best players on the roster…like a couple of months ago?
Lesson Four:
The Los Angeles Lakers need to help Schroder get his contract and send him packing!
Message for Lakers fans: Mark these words, Dennis Schroder is playing for his next contract and not the Los Angeles Lakers!
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One thing about a loss like this is it makes it easy for Jamie to come up with 5 things. Good selections, Jamie. Thanks.
1. Scoring – something the Lakers don’t do well.
2. Defense – not great but better than their offense.
3. Next Man Up – Something Kuz, KCP, and DS need to learn.
4. Coaching – we don’t need no damn adjustments.
5. Dre’s return – not expecting much so hope to be surprised.
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Thanks Buba! Yeah I really felt for Wes when he went down. While on-court play for many Lakers has been on the disappointing side this season you never want to see a guy get hurt. Same for Dre and all our banged up Lakers.
THT is an interesting barometer, much like Caruso last season. If Alex had a decent to good game last season we won more often than not. The same feels like it applies to THT this season. So here’s hoping h puts a gem together today.
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What is Dennis Schroder worth? Declined a 4 year deal worth $84 mil so obviously sees himself worth more in some form or another. I heartily disagree. A player worth that much could carry a team when LBJ goes down, has a diverse skillset and doesn’t turn the ball over as the lead guard so much. Going to be one heckuva interesting summer…
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With a due respect, I think you’re asking the wrong question, Jamie. First, we’ve already offered more than he’s worth. Second, the right question is does he fit what the Lakers need at point guard. The answer is a player in the short term who can shoot the three, take care of the ball, and create for himself and others. Now and, importantly, after LeBron is gone. I’m sorry but that’s not Dennis Schroder. Our best bet would be to get whomever signs him to take a second round pick in a sign-and-trade so we create a big trade exception.
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Vogel saying he plans on playing Gasol and Trez together. Something I had lightly touched on in our late-night podcast so that could be an interesting pairing. Gasol could find Trezz on the move and wipe out defenders with screen and roll. Also help Trezz on the defensive end. Minutes coming from whom tho? Not Kieff who has just started playing well…
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I heard that too. It was something that’s been suggested several times as Trezz needs a stretch center to enable him to play the four. I’m not a fan of that because Marc doesn’t have the 3-point gravity to make it work.
I do think it’s the right move to get more minutes from Trezz but with Davis. I recommended an article or two earlier. It’s one of the ways to keep Trezz contributing 20 points per game.
If the past is any hint of what’s going to happen, I think Frank will do what he can to get Marc minutes and stick with KCP despite his reluctance to lower his 3-point percentage by shooting a three. We’ll have to wait until the playoffs to see any changes in roles and that may be too late this year.
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Good REALISTIC fiver, Jamie. The level in the proverbial glass is definitely decreasing rather than increasing.
1. Drummond – Not going to jump on the guy after Brook Lopez already did but we saw the flaws in his game and the hope in his attitude. Like the rest of this squad, he’s not a difference maker who can carry the team without LeBron and AD. We have no stars go fill in for superstars.
2. KCP – On a campaign to limit the number of 3-point attempts he takes so that he will still be shooting over 40% by the time the season ends. Should have traded him. Should have traded him. Should have traded him.
3. Turnovers – I don’t mind turnovers trying thread the needle or play great but like throwing the ball inbound right under our basket so the other team can lay it in? Or trying to dribble through three defenders. Those are signs of role players who can’t do more than their roles.
4. 3-Point Shots – The only way to solve the Lakers negative 3-point differential was to trade the players who take and make too few threes for players who take and make more threes. That ship unfortunately just sailed.
5. Schroder. Can’t be the point guard for a championship LeBron James team if you can’t shoot over 30% and have an assist to turnover ratio less the 2 to 1. Should have traded him. Should have traded him. Should have traded him.
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Check Mike Trudell’s Twitter feed (or I read all this on Bleacher Report) but Dre is saying all the right things which is easy before you’ve even set foot in the practice facility. Like Vogel saying “we’ll need all 3”, certainly a lofty sentiment but the reality is the Lakers now have a serious front court log jam and the issues with three point shooting, heck scoring in general, are real going forward.
Who on this roster will replace playoff Rondo? PORondo was instrumental in executing the defensive and offensive plan of attack, downloaded what the coaches wanted instantly and transferred that knowledge like a Borg collective to the team (by that I mean instantly) and made timely baskets from all over the floor…including from three. I don’t see a player that can do all that. I see three players who can approximate that.
One roster spot left…maybe the Clippers will buy Rondo out, too…kidding but not really.
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Great point, JAMIE. Playoff Rondo was a monster for the Lakers but I don’t see anybody in the buyout market who could replace him. The one possible exception would be Isaiah Thomas, but that’s not going to happen. We’re looking for a defensive wing.
Ultimately, we’re going to need a playoff version of Dennis Schroder to replace the mojo that Rondo gave us. That could be possible although the turnovers are killing us now. He’s the kind of 3-point shooter like Rondo and his energy is huge. Bottom line, he’s the closest we’re going to get to Playoff Rondo.
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Good fiver, Jamie. Thank you. Appreciate the work and effort.
1. I like Kuz shooting 12 threes even though he only made 4. We need threes when our centers are averaging 3.5 and 3.0 ppg the last two games. We rank 7th in makes and 3rd in 3P% for the road trip. Need to keep it for another 5 games.
2. Alex starting to shoot much better and always good for one of two hustle plays but his passing is still shaky and he’s not shutting down players like he did last year. But good game.
3. Kenny coming to life at the right time. Not sure what the deal is with him but he had some plays that reminded me of Playoff KCP. Let’s hope he keeps it up.
4. Only 11 turnovers was a key to winning this game. I didn’t like our lack of energy on hustle plays. Per NBA.com, Hornets recovered 8 loose balls to our 4.5.
5. Schedule. Next 5 games are critical. Last big road block or speed bump before we get LeBron and AD back. Need to somehow win at least 2 of these 5.