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    Team Oxygen is in the house. Laker defense yet to emerge from the locker room. 68 points in the first half to a team that usually struggles to score 100? Pathetic.

    Hey on the bright side we found our stretch five!

    Wow…

    Team Oxygen is in the house. Laker defense yet to emerge from the locker room. 68 points in the first half to a team that usually struggles to score 100? Pathetic.

    Hey on the bright side we found our stretch five!

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    Start Dwight if you’re going to go big…. Let DAJ recreate his career against bench guys.

    Ugh…

    Start Dwight if you’re going to go big…. Let DAJ recreate his career against bench guys.

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    5 Things: Celtics spoil LeBron's return by blowing out Lakers

    An absolutely uninspiring effort against the team one would think the Lakers would want to beat no matter the situation, record or personnel. Maybe the Boston/Laker rivalry is dead and, if so, another thing of magic and majesty has passed from the planet’s surface. Can’t be a rival when you only show up for half the battle. That’s minion level status, at best.

    1. Great first quarter, huh? The Lakers showed up like a team that desperately wants to turn the page in a horror novel where the horror sort of just…never…ends. The offense was grooving, we forced 7 turnovers, LeBron was back, Russ was greasing the engine and we we’re defen-well, not quite. That first quarter defense, which gave up 30 points, was about as good as it was going to get it turns out as the Lakers gave an equal amount or more points for the rest of the game. There is an issue on defense which can’t just be explained away by the loss of Alex Caruso. That issue is a lack of several things: execution, attention to detail, heart, and investment.
    2. The Lakers new hit single should be called 3rd Quarter Blues. But we really didn’t need the 4th quarter encore of “I’ve Already Left the Building”. It’s been an issue all season. The halftime refreshments need to be changed, whichever parent is bringing the orange slices and Gatorade needs to get booted over to hauling the balls and setting up the nets because we come out of the locker room like we’ll all look on Thanksgiving after turkey. I’m assuming the Lakers don’t serve the team turkey dinner at the half, of course. I really don’t know what to say about this. The only people in the room are the team and coaches and whatever support staff is there to tape up this or patch up that. It’s such a consistent occurrence that it has to be mentioned and is a major concern. Until we can figure out how to come out of the half with some level of intensity we’re going to have an uphill climb in most games.
    3. The odd refereeing continues. It’s obviously bothering the entire team as they spend more time talking to the refs about this or that than with each other about blown coverages and missed assignments. Foul calls are, in my opinion, a byproduct of intensity. We lack it, which is astounding when one considers that we have Russell Westbrook on the team. But, at this point, it seems pretty obvious to me that there is a lack of fire under the team. If it’s a symptom of too many guys on minimum deals, something that will even out over time, or simply the way the game is now being called I don’t know but a blow to the head should be a foul no matter the score, no matter what. AD took a head hit last game, LeBron in this one and Russ has been knocked down more than I’ve ever seen him and barely gets to the line. Now…would we win just because of more free throw attempts? No guarantee on that one as the Lakers are struggling against the free throw line defense teams are throwing at them but I think a few more calls going our way would at least help us stay focused on the task at hand.
    4. The Lakers rebounding struggles continue. Because we’re a long and not tall team we need to team rebound with intent. We’re not doing that very well. I can understand why Davis prefers to play the 4. He gets to weak side block shots and hunt guys down when they’re not focused on him. He gets a big lug to box out and set screens. In short, someone to do the yeoman’s work in the paint. AD has the skillset, and oftentimes the mentality, of a guard. Which is what makes him both so dangerous and also what makes this current experiment with him playing the majority of his minutes at the 5 such a quandary. Not one Laker managed more than 7 rebounds and, as a team, we were out rebounded 18 (51-33). Like defense, rebounding is a heart/hustle stat. This team plays fast, but not controlled. This team has heart but usually it only shows up for a half or so. It’s getting sickening to watch, quite frankly. The fans deserve better and so does the team. This team should be better than this.
    5. 8-9. I remember when the Heat hit that 9-8 record in year 1 and Bosh and Wade told LeBron to just be LeBron, they’d fit in around him. From there on out it worked and it worked to the tune of 2 NBA titles. Something like that has to happen here only I have no idea what that looks like. It’s hard for Russ to find his own groove when Frank takes he and LeBron out at the same time. It’s neither of the ball-dominant player’s team, it’s more AD’s now than anyone else’s as he’s the youngest and has the most impact game to game, so far. He may not want it but that torch is coming his way and it feels like it’s coming his way right now. Maybe that’s the issue, that we’re a LeBron James team in Anthony Davis’ body while Russ watches on in horror like a version of Freaky Friday gone horribly wrong. We’re on the south side of that 9-8 mark, had we won tonight it could have been now. As it is the best we can hope for is to see 9-9 after the next game and not 8-10. If this team comes back from the road trip not having won a single game I think we’ll start to hear some rumblings followed by the dreaded vote of managerial confidence in regards to coach Vogel’s job.

    Never in a million years would I have imagined that I would write that last sentence. Think of it…Luke Walton might have more job security than Vogel does right now. At the very least there probably isn’t much difference between the heat under either seat. But this team isn’t defending and they’re not outscoring teams with raw firepower. There is no easy fix, it would appear. Time? Sure, there’s still some time to get it figured out but come the end of the roadie we’ll be 20 games in with 62 left. We’re in 9th place in the western conference right now. A Laker team that can put up 109+ ppg should have a better record if only they could figure out how to play defense for more than a quarter or two. If they can’t then it makes Vogel’s skillset an even larger issue as he is known to be a defense-first guy. At any rate, the Lakers are now fast running out of excuses: AD is playing the 5, we’re running shooters out there in the sets that they evidently prefer, we got all three superstars back and THT.

    We’re still getting run out of the building.

    Something’s got to give.

    Go Lakers.

    (personal note for all the GHE/GHF chit chat – I would much rather be writing about how great the team is playing and how the playoffs are going to be fun…well…the team ain’t obliging, people, the team ain’t obliging)

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    5 Things: Lakers lose to Bucks, have no answer for Giannis

    I don’t see another move the Lakers can make that would have as positive benefits as trading for Turner, moving AD back to the four and LeBron to the three, and playing Russ and THT in the backcourt.

    Lakers can’t continue to play Too-Small-Ball instead of Small-Ball-on-Steroids. Best way to fix that is to trade for Myles Turner. He would enable us to continue to play the same small ball five-out style but with monster size like last season.

    A Russ, THT, LeBron, AD, and Turner starting lineup would be the biggest small ball team in the league. Thast’s exactly the physically dominating type of team Frank wants with two bigs. AD gets to play his preferred four and LeBron his preferred three.

    Considering THT’s jump, he and Nunn and DJ should be enough and we can throw in a pick or Monk to close the deal. It’s the single biggest move the Lakers can make at this time and much better than trading for a bigger 3&D wing or power forward.

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    • Aloha Jamie, nice post although I agree with a couple of points. First THT had 12 boards, that’s a little more then a couple😂 The 2nd, the Bucks aren’t really injury riddled. They were earlier but they had their big 3 back. The only starter out is Lopez and honestly even with him the Lakers beat the Bucks with LeBron. We went 0 for 16 from 3 down the stretch and it killed us. However that really is an anomaly. We are better then that. 25% down that stretch wins the game. And you are right, fouls are ridiculous. AD didn’t even a get an out in the open flagrant foul call on Giannis. One of our biggest problems was the Bucks were getting small on Giannis, almost at will. And we weren’t sending help. While AD didn’t do a good job against him, he got a lot of his points against small players in switching situations. I don’t know how LeBron will effect THT but I think we now have 4 guys that can really attack. I think we will see rotations that have maybe Russ and AD and LeBron and THT or other combinations with those four.

    • Good to see some welcome positivity in this fiver, Jamie. Sometimes, things do look differently after you let some time pass. I still contend this was a QUALITY loss. And I agree with all of your ‘five things.’

      1) I agree 100% with you on THT’s great game, especially the 3-point shooting. Talen has put together three straight games that scream third year breakout. Can he continue if LeBron returns? That’s the big question. I think he’ll get a chance. I’ll be rooting for THT to have another big game.

      2) Lakers could have won the Bucks game had they shot up to their normal level and had Giannis not had his usual 3 of 4 threes against the Lakers while shooting under 30% vs. rest of league. You’re right that the game often swings on whether we make or miss our threes. I feel more confident that as the season progresses, our improved 3-point shooting will show up.

      3) AD did get owned on defense by Giannis and it also affected his confidence on the offensive end. There’s an up-and-down to AD’s game that needs to end. Aggressive for two games followed then by a passive game. For sure, LeBron has the low center of gravity that Giannis has and AD doesn’t. Giannis can overpower AD in the post but not LeBron but AD still cannot get outscored 44 to 18. We need a huge bounce back finish to this road trip by AD. He got schooled. Now he needs some payback.

      4) Glad the Lakers complained to the league about the free throw issues. All three Lakers superstars are getting jobbed by the zebra. All three receiving the fewest free throws in their
      career. The flagrant foul by Giannis hitting AD in the back and on the head was just the poster boy for the zebras bias against LA.

      5) Russ working hard to diminish the turnovers is a sign he’s been listening to LeBron, AD, and Frank. The Lakers clearly can benefit from not wasting possessions. Of course, not having LeBron helped too. It will be a key to tonight’s game because the Lakers need LeBron and Russ to take care of the ball. But good find, Jamie, as better ball security is one of the keys to more wins.

      Great Fiver, Jamie. Let’s hope LeBron plays, AD dominates, Russ plays under control, THT continues to shine, and our shooters remember how to shoot. I’m hoping for a happy, kumbaya podcast tonight. 😃✌

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    Lakers need to do better than I expect (2-3) on this road trip. If, after the roadie, they are at .500 (which would mean they indeed did go 2-3) we’ll be at the 20 game barometer with not much growth to show, hoping an aging LeBron and Carmelo can bring enough firepower consistently (and stay healthy) to make it all work. Feels like a thin plan but it’s seemingly the one concocted. Here’s hoping I’m wrong and overly realistic (sic pessimistic) and they make me look the fool and 5-0.

    The Little Road Trip That Could

    Accepting the illogic that the Lakers couldn’t keep both THT and Caruso, which is what they should have done, it’s becoming very obvious why the Lakers decided not to trade THT for Lowry and to re-sign him rather than Caruso. You could argue that not bringing back Caruso opened up minutes for THT at the two, which is the position he is likely to play once Ariza is healthy.

    While it’s only 3 games and one of them was garbage time, Talen looks like he’s made another quantum leap in his development. Playing with confidence, probably still need to get in game shape, No way Lakers are going to pull him out of the starting lineup unless his 3-point shot falters. The difference between having Talen in the starting lineup versus Bradley or Bazemore is a night and day situation, or 20 PPG vs. 3 PPG.

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    • I don’t think this is a do-or-die road trip but I’m optimistic that LeBron’s return along with THT’s return plus the team getting a chance to bond on the road will lead to at least a 4-1 road trip so they could hit the quarter pole with a 12-8 record and 4-game win streak. That may not be possible with LeBron out tonight but it’s what I will be rooting for.

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    5 Things: Bulls beat Lakers, AD sounds off

    Well, with LeBron out we’re not at DEFCON 5 yet but man this is looking like a season of uphill battles thus far. Gone is any lofty talk of a 70 win season, at this pace the Lakers will be lucky to avoid the play-in. If this team doesn’t figure some things out, get (and stay) healthy and begin competing at a higher level you can kiss the banner goodbye and add another wasted season in purple and gold to LeBron James’ resume’.

    1. Talen’s big game. The best Laker on the floor last night was THT. He attacked the defense in a variety of ways and his three point shot was on full display. With Vogel announcing that Kendrick Nunn is still “a way’s away” with a bone bruise we desperately need production from Horton-Tucker. The evolution of his three-pointer is a huge key to unlocking his potential as it will force teams to stay on him on the perimeter opening chances to drive the ball into the paint and attack. The next step is getting his teammates activated and involved and continuing to improve on defense. If THT is going to be a force he needs to bring that trifecta of impact.
    2. AD getting tossed. This is becoming a theme: Lakers struggle for this reason or that, get into it with the refs, lose game and talk about how they need to stay better composed. Well the time to start that journey is now because this version of the Lakers really lets officiating bother them. From Dwight on the bench yapping to Melo every time down the court to DeAndre Jordan looking for touch fouls in the paint (hint: DAJ…they ain’t calling that stuff bro) the Lakers just need to suck it up and realize the refs aren’t bailing them out of their poor play. Everyone’s unhappy with the officiating so that indicates that at least there has been some level of consistency there. Now did AD deserve to be tossed and/or was he right about usually the refs give a a player a quick moment to re-shoe? Sure, but that ought not obfuscate the fact that the game was all but decided by the time he got tossed.
    3. Play with some pride. LeBron alone won’t fix this. He’ll help but until this team comes together and starts sacrificing for one another, selling out for loose balls, and competing at a high level regardless of the opponent it won’t really matter who is on the floor. This team seemingly wants to be able to rely on talent, not get down on it in terms of defense, not focus on the minutiae and execute at a high level and in general has an air of laziness about it that simply won’t get it done most nights. Right now if 2 bench guys don’t get red hot from three, AD doesn’t pour in 30+ points and Russ have an above average game we have no shot to win against most teams. So when LBJ gets back we’ll see less of Monk and Bazemore, most likely. At this point that’s a good thing. While I’m high on Monk and his skillset it’s obvious we need someone to restore order and if it’s not LeBron it won’t be anyone. The trio talked a lot about sacrifice in their dinner where this was all envisioned, now is the time to start.
    4. The question of Alex Caruso vs. THT. I mentioned this on the podcast. That i think this debate is absurd as it frames two guys who in and of themselves aren’t the reason the Lakers are in luxury tax land. The reason that happened is we traded for Westbrook and have two other max salaried players. So the idea that the smallish contracts that THT and Caruso signed respectively is just a false narrative that obfuscates the fact that the majority of resources available to the team are dedicated to 3 players. That in and of itself isn’t the problem. The problem is that, after committing so many resources to the three players and trading away the aspects of the roster we could easily retain we were left with 2 players whom we could go over the salary cap to keep, although the doing of that would be costly and those 2 players were AC and THT. If you’re going to build a 3 superstar team you have to do so with the correct mindset. 3 players does not a championship roster make and I hardly believe that could news to anyone inside the Laker front office war room. We needed the skillset of both THT and Caruso in order to field the most competitive team that also has some championship pedigree and experience playing alongside LeBron. So, in my mind, this debate is being framed all wrong. The issue is that the Lakers went big on 3 guys and cheaped out big time after that. End of discussion. Really the reasons don’t matter at this point either as this is the team we have.
    5. How can we turn this around? Honestly, I don’t think any one thing can turn this around. James coming back re-creates the same problem we have now which is our offense is fine but our defense is not. We’re not elite in any way except roster payroll, at least we’re not playing elite. Russ doesn’t have the right kind of guys around him to be the best version of himself, but adding LeBron and THT will marginalize Russ (somewhat) so that may be the answer there is just having more guys who can get their won shot on the floor and hope Melo can keep his roll going on the road (although his last 2 games have been drop off games for him). We need 30 points from AD every single night, it would appear, because after AD and The King we don’t have anyone that can score in double digits consistently. Melo, maybe, but Anthony is old and isn’t going to have the mojo every single night. Russ will score in double-digits but the efficiency is a huge issue in regards to those points.

    It’s certainly fair to say that I am now in the position of having to re-examine my opinion that adding Russ was the right move. At the time I could imagine how it could work, in reality I have yet to see anything consistent or organic from the team for the most part. This isn’t working, especially against teams that have an identity established or have gelled quickly. The Bulls in many ways were the perfect team to face at this crux of the season: they had a huge amount of turnover, have done the job early against a favorable schedule, and a re playing like champs already but with guys who haven’t won a thing (except Caruso). But thinking of a world where we could have had DeRozan and kept AC and THT is certainly a “hindsight is 20/20” kind of world. We didn’t go that route, nor did we trade for Buddy. We have Westbrook and now the guys have to find a way to make it work.

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    • Good fiver, Jamie. Hard to find anything positive about another ‘flush it’ game this season. Obviously, we still have not figured out how to win the non-LeBron minutes.

      Overall, I still believe the Lakers will be fine. We’re doomed against the Bucks tonight but should be fine when LeBron returns. Just getting tired of seasons being so affected by the damn injuries. And it’s not just the old guys. It’s the damn young guys who can’t get healthy.

      1) Great game by THT, especially the outside shooting. You’re spot on that his 3-point shooting will likely determine his future with the Lakers.

      2) AD showed his frustration with the doubling and tripling and his teammates poor shooting by getting tossed for complaining about the time to retie his sneaker. Frank needs to figure out how to counter the double and triples. Russ is obviouslhy not enought.

      3) We always get into these arguments about how hard players are playing or whether they have any pride when we lose in a blowout. Sometimes, it’s just the other team playing great, which is what happened last night. The Bulls were scorching the nets all night long while the Lakers were cold as ice. End of story.

      4) I do agree with you that it’s unfair to assign all of the taxes to Caruso when it was Westbrook’s contract that created the inevitable situation. I still believe there were other reasons besides money for the Lakers not bringing Caruso back and part of that is his limitations as a player. Some of it was about opening up minutes for other guards who were more offensive minded. I mean, imagine if we also had AC, the minutes at the two would disappear. We already have way too many guards and not enought wings.

      5) Now you’re suddenly after the 15th game telling me we have no chance of turning it around and LeBron coming back will just cause more problems? I will consider that just your rant after a terrible game. Friday, when LeBron returns, we will start to turn this around. Mark my words. 4-game road win streak.

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    5 Things: Lakers welcome back THT, beat Spurs

    That was a needed infusion of youthful talent. Between THT and Malik Monk the Lakers have been able to send some guys out there that are both under 30 and have some decent game. Anthony Davis set the tone and the team followed in one of the more complete games the team has played to this point in the season.

    1. Anthony Davis starting to assert himself in ways the team desperately needs. We can go on and on about how this role-player or that isn’t playing quite up to type or what-have-you but the truth is this Laker team is only going as far as Anthony Davis takes it at this point. LeBron has been hurt, Russell is the new guy and the team needs AD’s elite impact that only he can bring on both ends of the court. Not to minimize the contributions of any other player on the roster but Davis alone can massively change the tone of the game on either end. Last night he was dominant in the paint helping us to an (for this season) uncommon advantage in that department. He also canned 2-3 three pointers, grabbed a team-high 15 rebounds and dished 6 assists. His 34 points led all scorers and he looked like the unstoppable force inside and out that we need him to be. When AD plays with that much force, focus and intensity the Lakers are a lot tougher to beat. When he lets the game or his teammates dictate his aggression we suffer for it.
    2. Welcome back Talen Horton-Tucker. I’ve written a lot of words about the advanced age of this Laker team and I likely will throughout the season as long as Frank continues to rely on the over 33 players. THT made his season debut following thumb ligament surgery and he looked like he hadn’t missed a day. The Lakers and the fans might have to live with some questionable forays into the paint, passed up shots and the learning curve any player who is still trying to reach his ceiling will have. I’ll take it because Talen is probably our most accomplished slasher other than LeBron James. He uses angles better than any other Laker and he has an array of finger rolls, floaters and mini-hooks to get his shot off over (or around) defenders. While it was only one game against the rebuilding Spurs he looked decent on defense, certainly no worse than the struggling Kent Bazemore.
    3. Malik Monk building a case for a consistent role. Monk started the season with more questions than assumptions. Could he defend well enough to earn minutes on Vogel-coached team? Would his shooting transfer over from a mostly bench, mop-up duty role in Charlotte to a team with bonafide banner aspirations? Could he carve out a role amongst so many other more established p[layers? Monk is answering those challenges and he’s doing it pretty well. His 36.1% from three is weighed down by early season struggles and inconsistent minutes, of late he’s been shooting the ball better and is creative at getting his shot off in the paint with an array of floaters. He’s not really creating much for teammates (2 assists/game) but that’s not really his role on this team. He, like THT, are being asked to be Swiss Army Knives with a little D, some scoring and some playmaking while fitting in among HOF players. Monk has started to shine in the absence of Kendrick Nunn as one of our better young players.
    4. Russell Westbrook taking it to the bank. I hadn’t realized until this season how many shots off the glass Russ takes. It makes a ton of sense because Westbrook is so strong, his shot so forceful, that using the glass to soften it just plain smart. Russ will never be Ray Allen efficient but he brings a lot of other things to the table. His bank shot has been solid thus far and, like LeBron, I think he’d benefit from shooting a step or from beyond the line on his threes. Russ had a solid game against the Spurs and seems to be trying to do a little less which has taken some of the pressure off of him with LeBron out.
    5. Wayne Ellington making it happen. It’s been whispered and rumored of for awhile now: the Lakers are where three point shooting specialists come to die. Guys who shoot lights out on smaller market teams (or where there are coaches who devise plays specifically to get them their shots) come to LA and can’t throw it in the ocean. Wayne started his season playing that way but, of late, has started to look more like the gunner we need him to be to bolster our bench scoring. If THT is going to start that leaves it to Wayne, Malik and whomever else gets into the rotation on any given night to bring some firepower off the bench. Wayne took a few games to get his legs under him and has said that the new ball has taken some time to adjust to. That all sounds about right to me. Wayne was great in his role yesterday afternoon taking 7 threes and making 5.

    It begins tonight. The easy portion of the schedule is, essentially, done. One could argue that no team in the NBA should be considered easy to beat but the truth is the Lakers didn’t do themselves many favors easing into the season (especially in regards to training camp where it feels like a lot of these questions could have been answered specifically “should DeAndre Jordan play at all?” NO! No he should not.) in the manner that they did. Sitting just 2 games over .500 with a 5 game road trip after the back-to-back tonight facing mostly eastern conference teams in the hunt for the playoffs the Lakers have some work to do to show that they’re better than their record suggests.

    This road trip takes us through a struggling Milwaukee team that I’m sure would love to bring some oxygen to their season by beating us: don’t let it happen; we need to become the team that beats struggling or rebuilding teams. Don’t be the one that gives them a feather in the cap by running us out of the building. Our lone game in Boston to a similarly struggling Celtics squad gives us another chance to show we can take advantage of the issues other teams are having rather than let our own issues define the season. Can they make all this happen? I’m not so sure but tonight is a good test: the Bulls are coming off a win against the Clippers and it’s Alex Caruso’s first game against the team that cheaped out in regards to retaining his services and choosing the hopeful promise of THT over the proven defender and glue man that is Alex Caruso. While tonight will not be the end of that debate it’s sure to be fun to watch. Watch ACFresh go for 50, lol.

    Go Lakers.

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    • Aloha Jamie, not ce post. AD was a beast. I believe AD will start at the 5 moving forward. He is just so much more effective moving inside out, then when he gets the ball outside when he plays the 4. If he wants a shot at the MVP then it’s going to be at the 5. There maybe the occasional match up that starting him at the 4 makes sense but I hose are few and far between. And if we do it should be Dwight, not DJ joining him.

      THT was incredible for his first game back. His offense was a little rusty in the first half but he settled down for 12 in the 2nd half. I think he will be our starting SF going forward. I would prefer him at the 2 but if we are starting AD at the 5, our options are limited. I think Melo is best off the bench so LeBron would be at the 4. What was most interesting to me was that Russ deferred to him in crunch time. That shows a lot of respect and validates all the praise that was coming from camp before the injury. THT suffers from the lack of respect because of his draft slot in the 2nd round. I looked back at his draft class and if redrafted he would be a lottery pick for sure and perhaps a top 10 pick. He was a huge steal in his he draft.

      Wayne is tearing it up now. 45% from 3 and if you throw out his first 2 rust games he’s shooting 59%. And the thing that has surprised me the most is his defense has been decent. Yes he’s not a lock down defender but he makes the effort. We are basically getting better shooting and a little defense for 18mil less then if we had traded for a buddy who is shooting a very good39% from 3.

      And Malik is great to have, such a creative scorer and he can make plays for others. He had 4 assists and Dwight robbed him of another by missing a bunny😂

      What is your guess to what the starting line up will look like once everyone is back? For me i think the only question mark will be at the 2, if AD starts. We have yet to see Nunn. Would he start or would he back up Russ at PG. Avery for defense? Wayne for 3 point shooting? that may make the most sense. i think you want at least one sniper starting.

      • Hey Michael. I hate to say it but I don’t think we’ve seen the last of DeAndre Jordan starting. Frank has intimated as much, as well. I don’t get it, none of that entire situation/choice makes any sense to me at all, basketball or otherwise.

        I think, because of how we let a lot of the vets ease through camp and then all the young guys except Monk got hurt, that we’re going to see a lot of starting five line ups again. As long as we don’t have the absurdity of last season (I think we ended up with over 20 different starting line ups if memory serves but I’d have to go double-check that…might have topped out at 19?) it’s fine.

        Hard for me to say that THT will be anything other than what I’ve seen from him thus far. It was one game against a rebuilding Spurs team focused on the youth movement. There wasn’t a shot-blocking big who played, really, and THT is always really good in a handful of games. Can he do everything he did last night consistently is the bigger question and I’m sure he and Caruso will both be jazzed to show they deserve this or that tonight.

        It’s too bad we don’t have Malik’s bird rights since he came over ona minimum deal, makes it very likely that he finds a more lucrative deal elsewhere next season since we can only offer him a 20% raise (or use the MLE) to retain him. I have really been surprised by the polish in his overall game. Since getting benched for not playing defense he’s been playing defense, same for Wayne who certainly does not have any kind of rep on that side of the court.

        All in all, I still feel like this team is vastly underperforming and some of that is due to injuries but mostly to our mediocre defense. The good thing is that we have started to at least look a little more consistent in that AD has been playing at a pretty high level, Russ isn’t trying to win MVP in one game and the bench is contributing well-enough to keep us in games throughout the early portion of the schedule. Hopefully this team can start to really turn the season around on this upcoming 5 game road trip. If not I think we’ll be in trouble, especially if we come home from the roadie under .500. Frank’s seat ain’t secure by any means.

        • I have to disagree with you on THT Jamie, I think he has a very high ceiling. He looked really good in the preseason games he played before the injury. I also take what was coming out from the Lakers camp before he got hurt under consideration. You have to keep in mind that he still hasn’t turned 21 yet. I remember Kobe’s first few years. Promising but not Kobe like yet. Even in his 3rd year and first as a starter at 20 he was very good but not great yet. now I’m not remotely suggesting that THT is the next Kobe. I am saying that it take few years, with a lot of ups and downs. i look at what he already has in his tool box, his willingness to bust his butt on defense and his work ethic and see a player that very well could become a star for this team.

          • One more thing about THT. I went back and looked at his draft class and from what we have seen so far, there are only 5 maybe 6 guys I would have drafted ahead of him. And they are all older. Herro is the only one drafted by a contender all of the others went to bad teams, where they got to play a lot, right away. THT making the rotation for a contender like he did last year says a lot about his potential. I think he could be a Laker star for a lot of years to come. The last guy we drafted that was that young was BI. Again not saying he will be that good but BI had a bumpy first couple of years until he got traded and was able to play big minutes. By the way THT is already a better defender.

    • Michael and Jamie,

      Great conversation, guys.

      I’m pretty much in agreement with Michael that AD will start at the five and THT at the three going forward as they need to find out if he can be a starter with our three superstars, which will hinge on how much better he shoots from three. And they want to increase his trade value by showing he can be a starter at 21.

      With Russ at the one, THT at the three, LeBron at the four, and AD at the five, we’re left with only one open starting spot, which is shooting guard. The top two candidates for that position are Monk and Ellington. So far, Monk is my pick because of his greater offensive versatility and proven defensive superiority so far this season.

      I do think Jamie is right that we have not seen the last of DeAndre or Dwight starting at center. In fact, I think there are strong reasons right now with LeBron and Trevor out that Frank should be starting DeAndre. We’re getting killed in the paint and on the boards.

      The doubling and tripling of AD has killed our inside game leaving us to hang on our 3-point shooting. Fail and we lose like last night or against Portland. Hit them and we win like against the Spurs. We need to see adjustments tonight from Vogel.

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    5 Things: T'wolves slaughter lambs, er, Lakers

    That was pathetic. Let’s get this over with.

    1. 83 points, to date. That’s the amount the Lakers have been outscored in the 3rd quarter by the opposition to this point in the season. We come out of the half like the game is in the bag. It’s a bad habit that started in preseason and has been consistently displayed throughout the season.
    2. Lazy basketball. In the 3rd quarter, after the Timberwolves had run out to a double-digit lead in a not double-digit minute span, the Lakers fell back on the laziest shot in basketball: the early shot clock three pointer. Most of those came within a Mike D’Antoni-esque 7 seconds or less in regards to the shot clock. The five out sets mean there are no rebounders for these lazy shots and it allowed Minnesota to get out on the break since we also chose not to really get back on defense after bad shots like we took in the 3rd.
    3. No pride shown. This got so embarrassing so fast I was surprised the starters played as much as they did in the second half. If you’re not going to compete, if you’re just gonna jack up lazy shots (everyone, no one player did a good job of trying to make a basketball play, throwing inane passes out of bounds under little to no pressure, and basically choose not to show up then do the fans who shelled out over $100/ticket a favor and just leave your ass at home. Nobody wants to watch NBA level talent play lazy and silly. Nobody.
    4. This Laker team is soft. Like Charmin soft. We get out-rebounded consistently. We play defense without moving our feet consistently. We settle for bad shots consistently. Those are the defining characteristics of this team, I don’t care what name is on the back of the jersey. We rarely work inside out, almost never run a set play unless it’s an inbounds (and even there it’s iffy) and have shown that we are more than willing to play down to lesser competition. Weak.
    5. Kiss that banner good bye. AD called out the team in his post-game but even that, in my opinion, fell short of what this team needs which is a swift kick in the butt. We’re coming up on the 20 game mark which is generally a barometer for the kind of team you have. That being the case, welcome to the 2021-22 version of the Los Angeles Lakers: a collection of names, not playing cohesively, showing up for 2/3s of every game and trying to get by on talent alone. If I were the coach I’d bench every player who isn’t getting back, who grabs instead of moves and shoots a three with 14+ seconds left on the clock. Be better or go this will become one of the biggest collection of losers with HOF credentials ever assembled in any sport.

      This glass is full, 100% full of reality people. I’m sure this post could be considered more arm-waving and hand-wringing but we’re almost done with what was considered the easy part of our schedule and it’s only going to get harder. That doesn’t bode well for the LA Lambs, er, Lakers

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    • Aloha Jamie, I feel your pain. I turned the game off in the 3rd when we got down by 30. Now I think the TWolves are better then their record. They have talent on that team. And we were missing LeBron and 4 important rotation players. So for me it wasn’t about losing the game. It’s how we lost. If we had battled and came up short I would have chalked it up to an injury loss and moved on. But the pathetic lack of hustle, of energy, is what really was disturbing for what is supposed to be a veteran team. This team NEEDS to play inside out. With AD in the middle and Westbrook’s ability to attack the paint, we need to attack, especially when the outside shots aren’t falling. Rarely does everyone on a team go cold but that was the case and we continued to just dribble up, pass the ball around the perimeter and take a 3. This is on the coaching staff as much as on our VETERAN players. While I still believe that things will turn around when we get players back this lack of energy going into the 3rd quarter has been a problem, even when LeBron was playing. These guys should be embarrassed.

      • It was embarrassing to watch, AD sounded more than embarrassed and this is like the 5th game of the season where the overall effort, focus and presence is MIA. The whole team is vets except Monk and he’s playing with more intensity than most of the vets. Getting LeBron back should help but the MO for the team to this point has been disappointing on

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    5 (late) Things: Lakers showing some grit

    Three overtimes of late, three wins. We may not be where we want to be as a team, yet, but we’re finding ways to win while we learn. That’s huge in a loaded western conference that features several teams leaking out ahead of us in the seeding race. While there were many things that almost derailed the win we overcame them and that’s a step forward for this team in this moment.

    1. Malik Monk’s huge game. We needed every one of those points Monk poured in to bring home the win. Malik has a unique skillset on this team. Like THT he can get his own shot, get into the paint to create and is possessed of youthful vim and vigor. Unlike THT he has a killer jump shot. If we can unlock something like this version of Malik on a nightly basis we can live with the occasional defensive lapse or two. We need someone to provide scoring off the bench other than Melo and if it can be Monk that’s cool with me.
    2. Melo continues his Sixth man of the year campaign. He may not have been raining threes but Melo knows how to apply pressure on a defense from anywhere on the floor. Anthony has also been playing with a nice amount of vinegar since becoming a Laker. You can see him engaging with AD about defensive concepts in stoppages (and even after the game last night) and he finds ways to win like superstars tend to do. While he is definitely removed from his “alpha” days in the NBA he is still a respected force that creates his own, unique gravity on the floor that forces a defense to react.
    3. Russell’s triple-double. This is life with Westbrook and you might as well buckle up and enjoy the ride, bumps and all. Intense is the word I have landed on to describe Westbrook’s game. Applied with as much force as skill, always ramped up to 100 MPH all with the audacity of a swashbuckler Russ is gonna drive the team forward. This time without LeBron has been good for Russ. It’s not that he’s changed his game or unlocked a heretofore unseen skillset it’s that he’s been free to be himself. If anyone is going to see where he fits in amongst the budding rapport between Russ and AD it’s The King. So letting Russ run wild for a few games has had it’s benefits and warts but that’s the package we bought when we traded for O.
    4. Avery Bradley should stick as a starter. I don’t buy into the idea that Avery doesn’t have the right skillset, mentality or ability to be a starter on this team. In fact I happen to think he’s the perfect compliment to Russ at the 2 to kick things off. He’s yin to Westbrook’s yang: where Russ is always playing in 5th gear, Avery has a control and pace to his game that allows him to speed up his game when called for. He shoots the three well enough and his defense is sorely needed in a starting unit that will seemingly end up featuring DeAndre Jordan on most nights. I’m not sure Kent is the long-term answer at the three, I have no doubt in my mind that AB should start at the 2.
    5. The free throw disparity issue. OK, this has gotten absurd. Once again it was a more than 2-1 disparity in free throws attempted. While some of this is on us and our defensive lapses, it’s not like the Lakers a re a jump shooting team. Frank needs to pick up a T, challenge some calls, something to start to bring this thing back into a manageable realm because this isn’t a winning formula. It took ridiculous games from role players, hitting nearly 50% from three and a series of out of character misses late from the Heat to pull this out. We have to play better defense, yes, but the Lakers also need to start getting some calls going their way. I’m sure this will start to even out…eventually.

    We ought to win against Minny. Here’s hoping we do. Go Lakers.

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    If you want to ask me if I’ll die on Caruso Hill, don’t bother. My body has already been found and the autopsy shows I died of incredulity.

    Most used Bulls lineup:
    Ball/Caruso/LaVine/DeRozan/Vucevic: 9 games / 60 minutes / 105 Ortg / 93.8 Drtg / +11.3 net rating

    Caruso is 6th in the entire league in deflections (40). He’s 2nd in the entire NBA in STL% among guards who actually play legit minutes and 3rd overall in steals.

    Yeah. I’m sure Nunn will replicate that kind of defensive impact.

    Ridiculous.

    Rob is a fool

    If you want to ask me if I’ll die on Caruso Hill, don’t bother. My body has already been found and the autopsy shows I died of incredulity.

    Most used Bulls lineup:
    Ball/Caruso/LaVine/DeRozan/Vucevic: 9 games / 60 minutes / 105 Ortg / 93.8 Drtg / +11.3 net rating

    Caruso is 6th in the entire league in deflections (40). He’s 2nd in the entire NBA in STL% among guards who actually play legit minutes and 3rd overall in steals.

    Yeah. I’m sure Nunn will replicate that kind of defensive impact.

    Ridiculous.

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    • Definitely a mistake at this point in time. We’re missing his defense and savvy play and will miss him as a trading chip at the deadline. Jeanie must have given Rob a tax breaking point.

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    5 Things: Lakers hang on and beat Hornets in OT

    I have been saying that before. Having AD and Russ figure out things while LeBron waits is the first step in developing a synergy among the three of them. So LeBron out for some time might help in a big way while it hurts. Chemistry takes different forms to materialize.

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    • My issue, as I indicated on the post game podcast, is that if you offense that has AD, Russ, and LBJ is relying on 37 year old Melo to make it all work there is a fundamental flaw in that offensive system.

      • Many instances of older elite 3-point shooters helping winning championships: Kyle Korver, Ray Allen, Steve Kerr… Just add Melo to that list.

        • “Helping win” and “making the offense work at a basic level” are two very different things dude.

          • Every LeBron team has had a designated 3-point shooter who played on his strong side wing or corner. That’s always been part of the formula for success with LeBron. Lakers finally found their version of that shooter in Melo, which is a huge positive development for this Lakers’ team.

            Hilariously, I see above that I never finished my response to your fiver so I fixed that and responded to your remaining 4 points. Damn, getting harder to juggle those mental balls as I get older.

    • Good fiver, Jamie. And thanks for being there on Lakers Fast Break so Gerald did not have to go solo.

      1) We started out hoping for 1 out 4 great games from Melo. Then it was 2 out 4. Now it’s looking like 3 out of 4. Melo is the one player the Lakers signed who has the stones to shoot better rather than worse like everybody else who can stand the bright lights. Melo and AD showing grit and guts to lead the Lakers are two huge reasons to be high on the Lakers despite the record and injuries. Every win without LeBron is like two wins in the end.

      2) I think we’re getting out in the break fine but we’re still not finishing at an elite level. Russ and Baze missing bunnies at the rim. We’ll get better. When you play at such a fast pace, you turn the ball over more and increase the number of possessions and thus points scored and allowed. So I think it’s a misconception that playing fast hasn’t helped us win games. It has but it’s only one component.

      3) When you look at the last six games, we’re 4th in defensive rating in the league with similarly impressive individual player defensive ratings. That tells me what Frank is doing defensively is working. Pace is just distorting it and we still haven’t played enough games for the true rate to emerge. The key is we are getting better and should continue to improve once LeBron, THT, Nunn, and Ariza get healthy.

      4) Completely agree with you regarding composure. We’re getting hosed by the refs but we’re compounding the situation by complaining, arguing, and sometimes not getting back into play. I think that’s an early season issue that will resolve itself. As we start getting healthy and winning, the frustrations will go away.

      5) There’s always two sides to the story. No, we didn’t win comfortably but, like Russ responded to Bill Oram, “Who won?” The key is this is a win without LeBron James. This is why we traded for Russell Westbrook. For situations just like this when LeBron or AD are out. Russ is the insurance and last night, it worked. That’s such important progress that it should have been at the top of your five things.

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    5 Things: Forget the Trailblazers, Lakers have major issues

    The Trailblazer’s game was garbage. Terrible effort on every front, got played off the floor by the better team and the biggest issue is this is happening when we face what are considered to be bottom-feeding teams. The Lakers have an age problem in that we are an old team. Our superstars are old, our role-players are old and all but 1 of the young guys signed over the summer and a rookie are injured. On top of that we are counting on guys who put their bodies through a lot just to feel healthy. As soon as they get dinged up a little, it seems to mean they get dinged up a lot. Pro sports are a younger person’s affair, for the most part, and this ain’t golf or baseball.

    1. LeBron’s injury-riddled time in Los Angeles. However you care to quantify this it’s becoming an unavoidable topic of debate: LeBron is getting older and it’s showing in his shot selection and his availability. LA got vintage LeBron, a finely aged player still capable of putting up quality performances. Then came the groin injury and a mostly lost season. 2019 will always be looked at through the lens of LeBron turning back the clock in the playoffs and helping bring banner 17 to the rafters. However, that also has to come with a big “But” in the form of a 3 month break midseason as planet Earth grappled with COVID-19. Then came the following season where LeBron was playing at a high level, again. Until Solomon Hill accidentally took him out with a high ankle sprain. Since his, at times shaky, return from that injury one thing has stood out: LeBron now shoots a lot of threes. Now he’s out with another ankle injury, one that some say could take as long as a month to heal. At 36, with the mileage that body has accumulated, it makes sense for the Lakers to be as cautious as they can afford to be given the impact James’ health has on our title chances.
    2. Anthony Davis aka The Man Who Falls Down A Lot. I love AD and the way he plays the game. He really does play in the style of a throwback power forward a la Bob McAdoo but with better range (“Doo” would have been a beast in the modern game, btw). If you listen to Bill & Stu on the Spectrum broadcasts you’ll there’s a running joke about AD hitting the floor and how many times he picks himself up off of it. It will not surprise me if, at some point, we see AD attempt a FG from said floor. The dude is elite, no doubt, but he also gets nicked up easier and quicker than a lot of other elite players. I’m not questioning his heart, the world of pro sport is littered with guys who had the talent and the heart but their bodies simply did not cooperate for them to have the kind of careers many expected. AD, like LeBron, benefitted greatly from the COVID time off when he turned in a playoff performance for the ages. That is not something that will be replicated and so the question facing him now is: can you do it within the confines of a true, 82 game NBA season? I believe he can. I am of the opinion that, if the roster is relatively healthy and LeBron is at something like 80% we can win a 7 game series against any other team, east or west. That will depend, as it always does, on a modicum of luck. But good health, especially to your superstars, is a must for any team that wants to do more than place SHOW.
    3. The Russell Westbrook puzzle. I’m not too proud to admit that I might have been wrong. That Mr. Sean Grice and Mr. Gerald Glassford may have been correct when they said that Russ was not a good fit on the Lakers. I still believe they will all figure out some way to make it work, though that way has certainly not yet been discovered. Westbrook had a golden opportunity against Portland to impose his will on the game. Instead he turned in the worst performance I have personally seen from him, ever. Toss in that the bench we normally deploy gave us nada and the route we all yearn to forget went down. It’s almost impossible for me to conceive a world where the Lakers entertain trading Russell Westbrook, it feels like it would take Dame specifically telling Portland “trade me to the Lakers” and that Russ would be the one to swap. We would also have to still be at, or below, .500 for that to happen. I just can’t see that happening…yet. Even I, of the realistic and pragmatic approach (as opposed to those with glasses of rose), really have a hard time seeing what lead the Lakers to such a dismal conclusion to the Russell Westbrook as a Laker saga. But it is starting to take shape in my mind, which is not a good thing. Because if I can kinda see it now then there are people within the Laker organization that saw back in the summer and likely submitted a memo or bent Rob’s ear for a hot minute only to be over-ruled. I still believe that the Lakers, as constructed now, have enough to win a banner. They suffer from Brooklyn-itis right now: too many pieces that have specific needs that really haven’t played together much. If we can cure that, we got a great chance.
    4. The rest of the team. It is certainly no secret that, as a result of having three max contracts on the books, the rest of the roster is essentially filler. Composed of a lot of aged vets on minimum deals, Malik Monk on a minimum deal, Nunn for the MLE and THT on his extension with a dash of “hey look at Austin Reaves go!” that’s the Laker bench. This is another area where the age of the roster is an obstacle to overcome, especially in the regular season. All of the guys we play in support roles with either the starting five or off the bench are over 30 except for Monk and Reaves since both THT and Nunn have been out since camp. Carmelo is going to come and go, but like any aged gunslinger he’s only good until the bullets run dry in any one gunfight. Dwight hasn’t been able to recreate his 2.0 Laker magic, DeAndre Jordan looks as washed up as he did at the end of his tenure with the Clippers, Ariza has been hurt and Bazemore and Bradley are decent support, at best. There is no young blood who has the skill and talent to impact the game in a winning way that i available. To be honest, I don’t really see that in him, to begin with. Whatever the impact they can make, we need some of the younger guys to get back competing and see what they can do to help turn this around.
    5. All things filter from the top down. Rob built this team. Yes, it was with a nod of acquiescence from AD and LBJ but it was his hand that put it together. It’s now Frank’s team to coach. I wondered before camp if Frank had the gravity and voice in order to bring these disparate identities, skill sets and egos into a cohesive force that could consistently win basketball games. I still have many, many doubts in this regard. It’s not Frank’s fault that he was given a roster of either old guys who have defensive reps or young guys who do not but that is in essence the team he was provided with this season. His rep as a defensive coach has been put to what I would imagine is the biggest test it has faced, yet. The Lakers suffered a pretty significant brain drain on the coaching staff, the team is not built for the style the coach likes to play, and many of the key pieces have yet to play significant minutes with each other. In an of themselves, none of these are enough to sink a team’s season. Taken as a whole and at at the same time and this looks more and more like an iceberg in the ocean…waiting…waiting…

    I still believe we can overcome all of the above. The question is when more than if. This team was always built with the playoffs in mind, even with Westbrook. While not as much as in the past there is generally more time between games, you’re facing the same team and we got guys who know how to perform under pressure of all kinds. I don’t think too many teams will be trying to position themselves to face the Lakers in the playoffs, so long as we’re relatively healthy. Time, however, is a major factor. We want to be assured of a seeding, not fight for a play in. We want to make what we have work as is, not add more time to what is already a lengthy process of discovering fit, building chemistry and figuring things out. We want the coach we have to do his job right and stick around for awhile because Frank’s a funny guy, helped us win a banner, and if you bring in another coach (even one off the bench) you’re still going to have to re-adjust on the fly. None of that is desirable. So, in the interest of title #18 here’s hoping this group can push through this time of difficulty and figure out a way to win now. Go Lakers.

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    • Aloha Jamie, nice post. The way I looked at our age before the season started was that we went 14 deep, so there would be enough rest to go around for our younger players. Unfortunately injuries have mucked that up. Four of the guys l thought would play heavy rotation minutes have been hurt. And making matters worse, two of them were our young guys. We are really paying the price for not resigning Alex.

      I have never quite been all in to the 3 superstar approach. But I bought in this year, thinking that in Westbrook we had a guy that could carry the load if LeBron or AD went down. There were a lot of concerns about Russ. There was the good Russ and the bad Russ. I thought we could live with the bad. Unfortunately we haven’t seen enough of the good Russ and this last game was pathetic. It’s early and we will get guys back. But Russ needs to play like a superstar when LeBron is out. While there is fit question with LeBron, he should be taking over and playing like a superstar when LeBron isn’t on the court. So far he hasn’t done that enough.

    • Michael’s comment about good Russ and bad Russ kind of encapsulates this Lakers team. Good Melo, Bad Melo. Good LeBron, Bad LeBron. Good AD, Bad AD. Good Baze, Bad Baze. Good Reaves, Bad Reaves. Good Vogel, Bad Vogel.

      Or maybe it’s just early in the season and players haven’t had a chance to develop rapport or chemistry because of all of the crazy lineups due to injuries and inconsistent play. After all, we did have 11 new players and right now are missing three of our five highest paid players who are out with injuries.

      Sometimes the simplest answer is the correct answer.

    • I too am looking at LeBron being out as an opportunity for Anthony and Russ to figure out how to win the non-LeBron minutes. That should be an achievable goal. Last night was hopefully the first of many wins without LeBron.

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    5 Things: Lakers fail to learn lesson and get beat by OKC

    Michael’s comment about good Russ and bad Russ kind of encapsulates this Lakers team. Good Melo, Bad Melo. Good LeBron, Bad LeBron. Good AD, Bad AD. Good Baze, Bad Baze. Good Reaves, Bad Reaves. Good Vogel, Bad Vogel.

    Or maybe it’s just early in the season and players haven’t had a chance to develop rapport or chemistry because of all of the crazy lineups due to injuries and inconsistent play. After all, we did have 11 new players and right now are missing three of our five highest paid players who are out with injuries.

    Sometimes the simplest answer is the correct answer.

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    • Great fiver, Jamie. Love the Get Back theme and video. Thanks.

      I also appreciate the more nuanced criticism and acknowledgement of the positive things that we’re seeing. There’s definitely a ways to go and injuries are rearing their ugly head again but we’re good enough to fight through it so no need to panic. Bron out is just going to make it take longer.

      The silver lining. I’m rooting for AD to go crazy and put-up stats like he did at times in New Orleans and Russ to continue to show that winning without LeBron is why we traded for him regardless of fit. That’s what I want and hope to see but not predicting. But I’m primed to be happily surprised. That would be sweet.

      1) No doubt defense has at times been problematic for this team, especially when you must give minutes to poor defenders like Rondo, Jordan, and Monk. Honestly, though, the problem is we seem to have an underrated talent for going into scoring droughts at the same times as when we lapse at defense.
      I realize that the label of a 3&D guy is given to way more players than really deserve it, both as shooters and defenders. We have shooters and defenders but few who do both. That means each lineup must be balanced so the team can score and defend.

      Frankly, no pun intended, some of Frank’s rotations were just terrible. Yes, partly due to injuries and limited roster, but really, a lineup of Howard, Rondo, Bradley, Bazemore, and Reaves? Come on, Frank.
      2) There’s no doubt that AD was on his way towards a career type night but I’m thankful he could come back and hopeful he’ll play tomorrow. Waiting for AD to become the next LeBron has been fraught with disappointment and concern due to injuries and, for me at least, motivation to be the greatest. His play is raising hopes this may be the season when it’s AD who wins Finals MVP instead of LeBron.

      3) Westbrook’s Jekyll and Hyde game, indeed. Talked about the offensive and defensive self-inflicted wounds. Here’s where LeBron and AD need to take Russ aside and tell him to be smarter in the clutch and in general. Anyway, like I say this early in the season, it’s only one game and Russ is looking like he can a force. We’re especially seeing how having a third superstar can be a great insurance policy as well as a ceiling raiser.

      4) There’s no question Bradley is the best we have right now as a fifth starter. Unfortunately, I don’t think that’s going to be good enough for us to win. At the least, we need Nunn and THT to show they can take the starting two and three jobs. They’re the highest paid non-superstars. They will show it or be traded at the deadline for players who can. Can’t spend $10M and $5M on two guys who can’t start. That would be foolish. I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Lakers push them into those spots when they come back for just that reason. That $15M should be spent on starters, not bench players.

      5) Thunder and SGA played great and they clearly won the second game and in game adjustments over the Lakers. Good coaching. Good young talent who hit clutch shots to take us down twice. Good reminder for the Lakers of how far they need to go and how important the little things and synergy that make a cohesive team on the court better than their parts.

      • Nice post Jamie, for me the biggest issue is still injuries. Although a close 2nd is our bad habit of taking our foot off the gas almost every game. That has to stop immediately. One would think that after they beat us the 1st time would have applied even more pressure up 19. I do believe we would have won if either Nunn or THT were available. Rondo is now a break glass in case of an emergency type of player. With either Nunn or THT available Rondo doesn’t play. Also both are very capable of creating offense so we may not have had that scoring drought. And of course they both can defend. I’m also impressed with Bradley. I do believe they will guarantee his contract. If a desirable player is cut and available at the deadline I wouldn’t be surprised if we cut Rondo to make room. And please, Dwight should be getting all the minutes at center when AD sits. He has played much better than DJ. When we have to start AD at the 4 Dwight should be the 5. Go out early and then start the 2nd quarter when AD rests. And when we get everyone back AD should start at the 5 and Dwight should relieve him. DJ should join Rondo as a break glass in case of emergency player.

        • Hey-O Michael, yeah Rondo should be put on ice until the playoffs. DAJ should just be put on ice. The 1 or 2 lob dunks a game are meaninglessness. Dude can’t defend a tree right now. Injuries this season are more of the contact/accidental type which is better? I guess? But still means guys are out.

      • You should have seen the first draft. Much gloomier but then I had coffee and the world is always a bit brighter after that.

        • Frank really has his work cut out for him. I think both Beadley and Bazemore are actually the right kind of guys we need to set a tone early. They’re system guys who fit in where needed and take the open shot. I think where we see a lot of slippage across the board is when it’s left to the supporting cast to run the show. This is where our bin-dynamic offense hits hardest. Russ doesn’t need a scheme, just a shred of daylight. AD needs the ball 15 feet out. That’s the offense. But, with LBJ out and those guys both sitting for about 15 mpg we see a huge fall off in every measurable category. That’s where I’d love to see Nunn or THT or anyone really shine. Can’t put it all in Melo, dude is playing as well as can be expected given the mileage.

          • You are right about the fall off Jamie,, when guys rest. But we have 3 very capable guys that haven’t seen the floor yet. Both Nunn and THT looked really good in their limited preseason appearances but even more impressive was what the coaches and teammates were saying about them and what they were seeing in practice. There is also Ellington. I’m interested in seeing what he will bring. My expectations for him last night was pretty low, considering it was his first game back. The big question is, will he be a 42% from 3 guy or will he suffer the shooters curse that haunted Danny Green, Wes Matthews and others that we have brought in for shooting.

        • Glad to see the caffeine doing it’s work. The injuries have made Frank struggle with lineups but it’s doubtful answer for starters at the 2 and 3 will be a pair of minimum salary players like Bradley & Bazemore or even Ellington & Ariza. Nunn and THT must be answer due to $10M & $5M salaries or be traded.

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    Cue the “One does not simply replace LeBron James!” memes.

    Still, Lakers gotta try. DeAndre Jordan will go back to starting, Russ will have the ball more but someone has to help put points on the board. Or rather, some people. Looking for some bounce-back from Monk, maybe some Ellington minutes. Monk in particular has had a spate of bad luck in the form of shots rolling off the rim, rimming out and so on. Of course, a vintage Carmelo Anthony performance would go a long way and I also expect to see some Rondo minutes.

    I’d love to be able to call this a revenge game but I still just see it as another trap game where we need to let our defense and our points in the paint lead the way and not overly-rely on three-point shots. Still, hate to say it but here it comes…

    Next man up?

    Cue the “One does not simply replace LeBron James!” memes.

    Still, Lakers gotta try. DeAndre Jordan will go back to starting, Russ will have the ball more but someone has to help put points on the board. Or rather, some people. Looking for some bounce-back from Monk, maybe some Ellington minutes. Monk in particular has had a spate of bad luck in the form of shots rolling off the rim, rimming out and so on. Of course, a vintage Carmelo Anthony performance would go a long way and I also expect to see some Rondo minutes.

    I’d love to be able to call this a revenge game but I still just see it as another trap game where we need to let our defense and our points in the paint lead the way and not overly-rely on three-point shots. Still, hate to say it but here it comes…

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    5 Things: Lakers defense reverts to early-season form but Lakers squeak by Houston

    Well that felt like it was closer than it needed to be. A lot of extraordinary things happened in last night’s game but perhaps the most was the fact that the refs decided to just lose 2 points the Lakers had as a result of their terrible officiating. In the end it didn’t mater (barely) and the Lakers came away with the W. More important to me is that after holding a Houston team to 85 points that exact same team blew up for 116. Defense is still a work in progress.

    1. The Legend of the Missing Points. So the refs made a mistake. Cool, it happens. The way they “fixed” that mistake was absurd. To simply remove those points from the board doesn’t fix a damned thing it only penalizes the Lakers in the form of a lost possession for something they didn’t do. This needs to be addressed by the NBA on down the line but at the end of the day it is not a team’s fault, nor should they be essentially punished for, an officiating error. Players don’t get do-overs. Coaches don’t get do-overs. Officials shouldn’t either. A cooler, in-house way of dealing with that would have been to tell coach Silas about the error and let him know there would be some gift free throws coming his way. but to take away the points, and thus the possession which nobody can say how it would have worked out, is just plain wrong. NBA refs have a tough job, agreed, but they still need to do it well and they are not handling much of anything very well at this stage in the season.
    2. In reality, those two points shouldn’t have mattered, The Laker defense was by far the uglier issue fromm last night’s win than the blown officiating. We almost let the young Rockets run us off the floor, with some transition buckets off our own made baskets and with some terrible three point close outs. Credit the Rockets for a bevvy of adjustments but also you have to worry about a defense that is still giving up a ton of points. The issue is the bench and centers not named Anthony Davis. However, since the roster is essentially minimum contracts, the onus is on Frank to make it work. The man has his work cut out for him. Getting some guys back in the next couple weeks should help as well as more film sessions but at the end of the day defense is a heart and hustle stat and the Lakers as a team need to show a little more and rely on talent and past accolades a little less.
    3. Best game by the trio to date. This game did give us one particularly awesome highlight: solid games by Russ, LBJ and AD. They all scored 27 or more points, as a trio they only turned the ball over 11 times (considering what it’s been in some games this is a vast improvement and one that I hope continues) and chipped in 22 rebounds, 20 assists, 5 steals and 3 blocks (AD handled the blocking all on his own). That is gonna work more often than not to bring home a W. The rest of the team only scored 35 points so the balance between the Trio and The Others is still a work in progress but give me solid games from those 3 every night and we’ll have a chance to win. Nice to see them gelling.
    4. The Lakers three point shooting. I’m sure it’s no secret that I don’t have a strong belief in the power of the almighty three in the modern game. It’s an unreliable scoring mechanism unless you have the following: elite shooters at multiple positions, a well-integrated offensive system that enables and maximizes those specific shooters, and the will to let it fly in the face of absurdity. We have had decent three point shooters on this roster for years. Be it Danny Green, Wes Matthews, Wayne Ellington, or whome-ever the Lakers have brought in they, to a man, seem to regress here in LA. That is, in my opinion, because of points 2 and 3. Much was made of the new offense Frank installed but on the court, in reality, I’m not really seeing much of a difference. We come down, guys screen, the ball moves from strong to weak (often with an ill-advised cross court pass) sometimes we dump it into AD at the post, sometimes Russ asks for a screen, sometimes LeBron does LeBron things. Really, to me, it looks very much like the same offense we run which is to say a pedestrian one at best. 5 out sets could be the answer, I suppose, but the team has to commit to running them and they don’t seem to be. But the real issue is point three: let it fly in the face of absurdity. This isn’t just from the coach but it definitely starts there. Mike D’Antoni, I’m sure, talks about defense when he’s coaching. I’m sure he spends just as much, if not more, time talking about how if you see daylight you shoot. That you will never be taken out of the game for missing a three, that there are no bad shots, and he drills that into your head. I don’t think Frank is that kind of coach, at least not on offense. I’m sure he drills defensive terms and conspets in a similar fashion and then, of course, talks about how it would be great to shoot the open shot. But not in the face of absurdity, he wants the quality shots, the good looks and not the “I’M FEELING IT MAN!!!!” shots. In truth there is but one, maybe 2, Lakers who are possessed of the correct shooters mentality and that is Carmello Anthony and maybe (we’ll see) Wayne Ellington. Hence the 6-25 from three because that wasn’t great Rockets defense, just bad shooting on our part and a lot of that comes from within.
    5. The Kent Bazemore effect. While I’m not sure that Avery Bradley as a starter is set in stone I feel like Kent Bazemore has etched his name into the Stone of Lakers Starters for the season or until something displaces him. The dude has been beyond solid on D, takes and makes the shots that are created for him and flat out plays the game the way you want to see when sharing the court with multiple HOFers. I don’t think Kent has had a single “Wow, look at Bazemroe go off!” but rather has been the model of stability and even-keeled contributions. That low level of variance in his play is a huge factor in my wanting him to stay a starter. Melo has all the tools and all the credentials but a lot of his impact relies solely on his shot falling. That can’t be counted on every night. Bradley has a lot of the tools but is on the small side and we have a PG in Westbrook and a need for a better-defending playmaker off the bench to keep Rondo on ice until the playoffs. Monk is just too inconsistent on both ends. I’ll be surprised if Frank sticks with AD at the 5 but we’ll see soon enough, still i think it likely that both the matchup provided by Houston and the injury to Dwight are what’s pressed Vogel to this point, I suppose the only thing we can collectively hope for is that he likes what he sees so much that he lets it roll for a few games. Bottom line for me is, even when Nunn and THT and Ellington come back (and eventually Ariza but I’m thinking we want to keep him on little bit of ice until the playoffs, as well), I think we need Kent on the floor to start games. Maybe someone comes on like gangbusters and changes this equation but nothing I saw in camp, which was admittedly limited because of injuries, makes me think his fit isn’t nigh perfect for the style of basketball we want to play.

    2 wins against a team we ought to beat. Good enough to keep me pleased if not ecstatic or willing to declare this team anything but one that is slowly improving. if we can improve while we win, so much the better . Seeing the Trio thrive the way they did last night was awesome, more of that please but with better contributions from the bench. Go Lakers.

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    • Good fiver, Jamie, but still too much doubt and not enough faith.

      1) The Legend of the Missing Points. Talk about a crazy move by the zebra. Glad to see Lakers challenging this. Could easily have cost them the game. Your point about players not getting do-overs is spot on. It’s like when refs call makeup fouls.

      2) Laker defense was by far the uglier issue from last night’s win. Just one of those games where everybody on the Rockets was suddenly an elite 3-point shooter. What can you say? Great O will usually beat great D. I mean Green was lethal from deep as we saw with those last two threes, including the Hail Mary.

      3) Best game by the trio to date. No doubt. 30/27/27 was best effort by our superstar big three yet. All three superstars did their part in getting to the rim. Lakers have shown over the last few games that they can get all three superstars on the same page. Steady progress, especially fitting Russ into the team.

      4) Lakers three point shooting sucked. You missed biggest point, which was Lakers scored 78 points in the paint, the most by any NBA team this season. We lost the 3-point battle by 30 points but won the PIP battle by 28 points and free throws by 10 points. By the way, Lakers are still a top ten 3-point shooting team.

      5) The Kent Bazemore effect. Baze has been playing great. His effort on defense has been magnificent. Problem with Baze is he’s playing the three right now and really does not have the size to play that position. He’s really a two guard and that’s where his chance to start will be. Ariza is likely to replace him at the three. Ideally, we still need to upgrade both the two and three.

      • I see, more faith and belief, eh. If you have such faith why are you already trading 1/4 of the roster man? lol,,,one side says: have faith! The other: these guys can’t get it done, ship ’em out! One side says: you’re chicken little! And the other says: This roster can’t win a championship as it is!

        Too funny…tooooo funny…

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