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    5 Things: Kings topple Lakers

    And so it goes. The Lakers started the second part of this NBA season on an even worse foot than how we started. AT least when we started the season we got beat by the Warriors. The second half kicked off with a loss to the lowly Kings. Standby traditional excuses, everyone get in position to repeat the company line that this is still going to take time, cue sound aaaaaaaaaand action! Time has ceased to be a luxury the Lakers should feel entitled to. They are running out of it and fast as they have now sunk back down to the 8 seed after dropping the last 2 games and lead the Timber Wolves by a scant half game. Not sure what can be done at this point, Westbrook’s trade value probably could only go lower if he seriously injured himself or was caught pulling off a high society jewel heist.

    1. The Russell Westbrook situation. I would give up on Russ except for that I generally refrain from disbelieving that the great players can overcome the obstacles placed in front of them. It’s not his effort but his execution that is failing him over the course of the last four games. His shot has gone MIA and doesn’t seem like it’s due back any time soon. The fact that this is happening around the trade deadline only further complicates any trade scenarios one can concoct involving #0. I have faith that this stretch will end for him but it’s not looking like this is working the way any of us hoped and has actually managed to find ways to look worse than I though possible. Vogel and Co. need to figure out a way to get Russ going on offense because if we can get that right he’s otherwise playing decently. Not great, but at this point I’ll settle for good to pretty good.
    2. LeBron getting fed up. I think this was a game LeBron was hoping for some help on. Missed a lot of threes and didn’t consistently attack the paint like he had been doing. He’s not going to be in full blown attack mode every game and we need to be able to do a better job covering for that. He also is going to wear himself down completely if he keeps playing this much center. I like him at center, I think in most match ups it’s the way to go, but we need to better recognize when the defense needs size and use Dwight. That’s just a reality of a player who is 37 and not accustomed to banging down low all game, every game. Acknowledge the truth and work with it, not against it.
    3. Reaves looked solid. Love him coming off the bench and would like to see us get him involved with Russ in some P&R more. They run it really well and Reaves can shoot from the outside or roll and finish. For a rookie he’s done a good job not coughing up turnovers and keeps himself in the play. His role should all but be etched in stone and he could be one of the things we have to use to grease the wheels of a trade. If you ask me, I think we should hold onto him, though.
    4. THT’s short leash. I thought that, in part due to foul trouble but also due to turnovers and porous defense (and in that he was certainly not alone), Talen had a pretty short leash last night. This is the guy we need to figure out how to feature if we want his value to increase. We just saw the Hawks move Reddish for a player struggling to find a role, you telling me THT couldn’t have been a piece the Hawks would want? While it was more likely the draft pick that was the Knicks target we have to figure out if we’re keeping Talen or not and we need him to play well one way or the other.
    5. Ariza still looks really slow. This was my fear before camp, when people were singling out Trevor Ariza to be the one that could make the defense work because he can play 3 or 4. While he has the size to play the 4, he doesn’t have the strength or speed to compete well right now. he might still be getting into game shape but I think it’s as much the last few seasons worth of injuries to various parts of the body and age that is the true culprit. That’s why I think Frank made the call to start him over Stanley, to see if he could warm up and go rather than warm up and sit then go. AT least for last night it didn’t work out very well as Trevor was basically a non-factor. He’s 8 games into the season so I expect him to get a little better with reps and time but not to the degree that he can massively swing the fortunes of the team.

    More and more I feel like this is the year Rob finally does it. I don’t see us ending the season with the team we started and a buyout candidate is unlikely to tip the scales in our favor a whole lot more. This could be the season Rob makes his first in-season trade. While I still think it unlikely we shake up the roster by moving Westbrook I do expect the Lakers to start getting more aggressive. Less smoke, per usual, and more fire. THT, Nunn, Monk, Reaves are all likely players to be moved in various deals. Not sure what the return on that will be but we need to do something because this team isn’t playing well and there’s no guarantee there will be a sea change when AD gets back.

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    • Nice post Jamie, i agree with everything you say. we have a lot of issues but it felt like we could have won that game starting Reeves over Russ. He defends and unlike Russ he hasn’t lost confidence in his offense. if we cant stop em we need to outscore them and with Russ shooting the way he has it makes that hard. i also have to give afrank a lot of blame on this one. where was the in game adjustments. they score 70 in the paint and Dwight gets 15 minutes in which we were a plus 9. Awful coaching.

    • Hard to keep the faith after a game like that, Jamie. I thought we had turned the corner and efforts like this weren’t going to happen. What the Grizzlies did to us was understandable because they are damn good. What the Kings did to us was lamentable because they’re not a good team.

      That loss was a kick in the gut that took away a lot of my hope we could compete for a championship. We’re not close to being in the top-four in the West. We’re a team hoping for a miracle trade and AD to return to the bubble AD. Otherwise, we’re dead in the water.

      1. The Russell Westbrook situation. While we win and lose as a team, Russ lost this game for us and anybody who couldn’t see that is a freaking idiot. I’m sorry if he had the flu or is he’s confused trying to decide whether to focus on turnovers or bad shots. He’s playing terribly and taking this team down with him. Lakers have three options: change his role, reduce his role, or trade him. Can’t co on like it is now.

      2. LeBron getting fed up. LeBron must definitely be feeling like he’s not getting enough help. He’s having an MVP season at 37-years old and deserves more. Frankly, LeBron has to be the key to get Russ to adjust his game despite how mentally draining that appears to be for him. LeBron is the one who needs to sit down and get Russ aboard a smart plan to optimize his great traits and minimize his weaknesses.

      3. Reaves looked solid. Austin is going to be one of those unsung super role players like Jeff Hornacek, an elite clutch shooter and dogged defender who makes everybody around him better. Frankly, there are some good arguments for him starting long-term at the two guard instead of Monk because of his size and defense. Don’t let his look fool you. Kid is shooter with a killer clutch streak in him

      4. THT’s short leash. I think short leash is the right rein to have on THT right now. He’s too young to be showcased as teams will want him for what he could become, not what he is right now. Give him his shots but make sure he’s playing in situations where he has chance to shine.

      5. Ariza still looks really slow. Trevor never was the savior as the third front court starter. That has to be Turner or Grant or somebody of their skill level or experience. We need a starting 3&D Big to go with LeBron and AD and Russ and AR.

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    The Wheat from the Chaff

    There are clearly two packs of teams hunting for playoff seeding and as we enter the second half of the NBA season tonight it’s important to remember that the Lakers have clearly entrenched themselves in the lesser pack. We might be considered the lead dog in the west to push through into the upper echelon but, to date, the Lakers have proven that they are one thing: mediocre. With three superstars and a collection of parts assembled by Dr. Frankenstein (Vogelstien? Dr. Frankenlinka?) the Lakers are surely in need of something to kickstart the second half of the season. We need a little bump.

    You can choose to place the blame on a variety of fronts. Injuries, sure we’ve had ’em. So has every other team. Kyrie Irving only recently started playing for Brooklyn after they reversed course on him being a part-time player. They’ve been challenging for the top record in the east all season long. The Denver Nuggets have had almost their entire projected starting line up decimated by serious injury and Murray has yet to play and we’re tied with them in the standings. Injuries are a part of the game and don’t represent a true reason not to show up with a competitive attitude which we fail to do on any sort of consistent basis.

    COVID ravaged our team. Yeah, and the rest of the NBA, too. Next. The issues plaguing the Lakers have less to do with who isn’t on the court and rather the attitude and demeanor of who is. Of all our young players Monk has grabbed the bull by the horns the best but only recently. THT this year has looked exactly like THT of every other year: wildly inconsistent in his energy and impact and generally with a decent amount of minutes played to boot. Reaves is a rookie and finding his way on many fronts. Of all our young guys I would actually argue Reave’s been the most consistent in his energy and approach.

    I think the thing that will define the Lakers this season was undertaking a three superstar team while choosing not to fill out the roster around them correctly. After watching Westbrook’s post game interview from after the Grizzly blowout I came to the conclusion that the organization never truly embraced Westbrook. The Dinner that this was all born of was one where the three players said they would sacrifice. Thus far it has been Russell doing most of the sacrificing and you can see it starting to get on his nerves. He’s assuredly the second option to LeBron, and honestly he should be. LeBron is better.

    That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t be figuring out how to maximize Russ’s other talents to their fullest potential or making sure he has the right tools when he’s on the court sans LeBron to be as effective as possible. That might mean giving him a big man to run P&R action with and guys who don’t defend like Frank wants them to. He called Ariza to get him on the team, let him play more with Trevor. It was a mistake to not get an athletic big man to help play solid defense but give him the best we got. Throw Dwight and Trevor in the 5 and 4 slots and Wayne at the 2 or 3 and either Monk, Reaves or THT in the final spot and see if they can space the floor and let Russ go to work. I would choose Reaves whom Russ seems to have a rapport with.

    It’ll be a shame if the Lakers pull the plug on the Westbrook experiment for failures the front office made. Not retaining Caruso and not signing one of the bevy of better centers that were still on the open market when we signed Jordan were cataclysmic failures that should force the ownership to question Rob’s ability to build a competitive roster. Between taking more and more of the tools Frank liked to use in his defensive schemes and filling out the roster with too old and too limited of skillset players it’s easy to use Russ as the scapegoat for the mistakes the Lakers themselves made.

    Swapping Ben Simmons for Russ or Grant for THT and Nunn might fix this but I really don’t think it will. Turner is honestly the only player that makes sense to me. He plays the defense we need, doesn’t need the ball to be effective and stretches the floor well enough. The Lakers keep trying to bring in guys who take the ball out of LeBron’s hands and with Russ they’ve done that to the degree that it will happen. We have guys who are catch and shoot three point specialists and we need the coaches to figure out how to unlock the ones we have and stop the endless carousel of “not THAT three point shooter THIS three point shooter” we’ve been on for three seasons now. We’re actually just going back through the same list. Heck, let’s bring Wesley Matthews back…again… We need players who better augment our superstars, not emulate them on a lesser level.

    So, to that, as we move up to the day we can trade THT (which I am of the opinion will happen) I hope the Lakers front office looks at their own process as much as what they see unfolding on the court. It’s a problem of their own doing in many ways and like Dr. Frankenstein feeling the urge to destroy the incredible creation he brought to life they need to make the environment right and not destroy that which they may see as an unfixable monster. Give the monster the tools it needs to live and thrive.

    Go Lakers.

    “I am an unfortunate and deserted creature, I look around and I have no relation or friend upon earth. These amiable people to whom I go have never seen me and know little of me. I am full of fears, for if I fail there, I am an outcast in the world forever.”

    “It is true, we shall be monsters, cut off from all the world; but on that account we shall be more attached to one another.”

    – Mary Shelley

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    • Great post, Jamie. There’s no doubt this season like the Lakers’ other two Covid-tainted seasons will end up being another new distorted form of reality when in comes down to NBA history. Makes it hard to seoarate the Wheat from the Chaff.

      Luck, especially in the form of good health, is the monster lurking over every team’s shoulder in this Covid era. Your Frankenstein comparison has legs as the mismatched components Pelinka et al put together certainly has some serious fit problems that lead to the team having problems keeping their arms and legs in sync.

      What Covid has done is turn the regular season into some exaggerated form of preseason where most of the games don’t count. What matters is who’s standing and healthy when the playoffs start. And that is why the Lakers still have a chance.

      Let’s get AD and Nunn back, make one smart trade for another starter (Turner or Grant), pay cash to teams to take DJ and Baze, and pick up a couple of key role players in the buyout market.

      Then fine tune the last 25 games of the season and head into the playoffs as the #5 seed, playing the #4 seed, which should be the Utah Jazz, who will be overtaken by the Memphis Grizzlies.

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    5 Things: LeBron shows up to play Grizzlies, rest of team does not

    These are the games that drive me mad. LeBron outs forth supreme effort, rest of team barely participates on either end of the court. The starting unit, save LBJ, did not get the job done in a measurable way. Frankly, neither did the Laker bench. In fact, save for the fun rally driven by the Laker end of the benchers, there wasn’t much to appreciate about last night’s dismal affair.

    1. LeBron’s wasted effort. It goes without saying that we are playing with fire. While it’s incredible to watch LeBron play at this level to see it wasted when the rest of the team basically phones it in. LeBron outscored the total output of his fellow starters in the first half (23-22). This we cannot abide. I’ll get into a few of the more pathetic individual performances down yonder but suffice to say we need more and we need more consistency from them overall. In sport you have to anticipate some degree of variance. The best teams cut down the intensity of that degree with solid execution, well-designed plays and playing with focus and effort. The other 4 Laker starters showed none of those things last night and left it all to James. Predictably, we lost the game as a result.
    2. The bench didn’t pick up the starters in a meaningful way. This is more of a defensive issue as the bench shot better than the starters did, especially THT. But not one player the Lakers will theoretically rely on in most playoff series did anything noteworthy on defense last night. In the box score one would think Monk’s 3 blocked shots flies in the face of that but the Grizzlies 54% shooting overall, 33 assists on 47 field goals made and multiple trips to the free throw line as a result of some pretty lazy defense tell the true tale. The bench didn’t do anything to stem the flow of players on Memphis from strolling into the paint and either getting shots at the rim or hitting the open man. They need to do better.
    3. The trio of Russ, Bradley and Monk. In short, they were awful. Russ was 2-12, Bradley was 2-10, and Monk cooled way off to the tune of 3-13. Together they shot a combined 7-35 for 20%. The best thing you can say about these three last night was that Russ had another 0 turnover game. I’d have taken 5 turnovers and more made shots and some passion. The fact that all three struggled so badly in the same game basically doomed this one from the jump. A lot of this was just plain missed shots, too. We hit the open man, the open man dithered and allowed defenders to close or just plain missed shots. We looked like the team coming off a back-to-back, not the Grizz. They need to do better.
    4. Team Oxygen strikes again. It’s not like Ja went off, either. 4-10 with an ally-oop dunk off a pass and a legendary block were his highlight reel for the night. We let Bane get hot, Jaren Jackson Jr. get whatever he wanted and bench players Brandon Clark & John Konchar shake loose for double-digits, as well. This was a result of a completely porous defense that saw the Grizzlies march to the rim through 3 quarters. I don’t have the mind or time to figure out what the points in the paint differential was prior to the run we made in the 4th but the fact that we gave up a staggering 62 points in the paint along with the number of times we fouled guys on drives was appalling. Ja didn’t go off, Brooks didn’t play, and we still got blown out in terms of the time when the result was in question.
    5. Frittering and squandering the winnable games. If we have to go through a play-in game or two we’ll all look back at the first half of the season and wonder what could have been. Losses to teams that were heavily injured, rebuilding or to teams we had large double-digit leads to may well be what defines this Laker team, which is kind of sad given the pedigree of the players on it. The next couple weeks will determine a lot. Until AD gets back we need to stay around .500 but honestly we need to starting winning at a higher pace if we want to have any hope of truly competing for a championship. As of now, if I’m honest, I just don’t see it and I don’t really see us having the ability to bring in a player that can swing that in a major way. These guys need to figure it out.

    The good news a lot of these issues are either fixable or should improve when AD gets back and Nunn makes his debut. The defense sorely needs AD in the paint and another ball hawk on defense in order for us to be able to deploy the kind of schemes Frank relies on. The guys are trying but it’s often not enough and last night I also felt like the overall effort just was not there, a habit this teams falls into far too frequently.

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    5 Things: Lakers take down Hawks

    The Lakers have now entered unfamiliar territory for this season: a winning streak longer than 3 games. The plucky Hawks did their best but the combined efforts of the newly guaranteed Bradley, Monk and of course LeBron James were too much for Atlanta. We’re also a season-high 2 games over .500 and a re looking to sweep the 5 game homestand tomorrow. Riding a smoother looking offense, some added youthful size and a healthier team overall the Lakers have come into 2022 looking like a different team than the one that started the season off.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46TKmvPDGGs
    1. Malik Monk’s emergence. Monk had a huge game, especially in the first half. Monk was NBA JAM style on fire. He hit shots from inside and out, moved the ball and didn’t force his offense, and played seem really solid defense. His highlight of the night was the soaring dunk he jammed home off an offensive rebound that brought the house down and got the bench up. Inserting Monk into the starting line up has added a lot of scoring, better defense than advertised, and enough playmaking to alleviate that burden for Russ and LBJ. Monk has entrenched himself on my list of “gotta figure out how to keep” players. It’s why that, barring an NBA championship run, I see us making a Russell Westbrook trade this summer.
    2. The Guaranteed Man. Not Reaves but Bradley. It was an afterthought for many when we picked up AB off the waiver wire after we started the season with all our young guys hurt. It didn’t take long for Bradley to show what we had missed out on when we didn’t retain his services after the Bubble. His on ball defense is still on point and he takes the open shot when he finds his way. Like Monk he brings a dash of playmaking that helps keep the ball moving and, frankly, I’ve always felt like he left some unfinished business behind after he (for good reasons) opted not to come into the Bubble. I’ve always been a fan of his game and I’m glad we’re keeping him around. He may find himself on the bench a little more when Nunn returns (whenever that may be) but it’s never a bad thing to have a plus defender who’s not afraid to take the shot on the bench.
    3. THT getting his legs back. I want to believe that Talen was suffering from his COVID symptoms prior to the homestand, that the travel and wind he lost battling the disease sapped him of his energy and left his shot looking short on almost every attempt. Regardless of the reasons THT looks like the guy we hoped he would. Filling in here and there as needed, a swiss army player who can score inside and out, defend at a decent level and make a play or two. I’ve never seen “superstar” or even All Star in Horton-Tucker’s future and there is nothing wrong with that. Not every player is and many have been solid to above average contributors to champion- level teams. THT had another really well-rounded game and here’s hoping that’s what we get from here on out.
    4. Russ doing it all. Russ is on a rebounding tear right now. He was the best rebounder on the floor along with the larger and more focused on the task Clint Capella, boxing out, finding seams and tipping the ball to himself to ignite breaks and find his guys in their spots. While he didn’t have his best outing scoring wise and fouled out (on a nonsense call that Danillo created by falling down all on his own) I like where Russ is at right now. He followed up his 0 turnover game with a modest 3 turnovers. So, when you count the 9, 0, and 3 that’s an average of 4 per game which is just about what he’s averaging (4.6 for the season to date). When you have a hurricane on the team you’re going to get a high degree of intensity and results. Those are things I can live with as long as everything continues to improve, which it has and many of the improvements honestly aren’t on Russ. Health of his teammates, the overall cohesion on defense, and shot making from the rest of the team aren’t really things Russ has the power to alter other than his own effort and involvement. While he may not have a long Laker career (as mentioned above I think only a title keeps him around next season) he’s on the team now and he’s playing the best he has all season. i expect that to continue to trend upwards.
    5. The new look offense. LeBron at center, or power forward if you want to believe that Stanley Johnson is now the starting center, has been the balm our mediocre offense needed when AD went down. I think we’ll see LBJ slide over to the 3 or 4 again when Davis returns but we haven’t seen the end of the King as a center this season and maybe ever. At least with this roster it’s a necessity because as much as I like the big man game we don’t have enough good big men to deploy. Dwight hasn’t looked anything like himself post-COVID and DeAndre Jordan has continued to be a mystery as to why he’s still on the roster. We needed help from somewhere it turned out it was a future HOFer already on the roster. I’m intrigued to see what we can do once AD gets back but this tool is certainly a useful one in the right situations.

    It would be great to sweep the homestand as that, to me, would signal that the team has turned a corner. They’re playing with more energy and focus, we’re getting guys back, and we’re not falling apart in any one quarter and digging a hole to deep to climb out of. Those trends need to continue all the way into June. We’re in the 20 win club now and it would be great to get to 30 wins before we get to 22 losses, that would mean going at least 9-3 over the next 12. Sunday also marks the halfway point and I don’t think anyone would debate that the team at the 1/4 point has vastly improved over the team we’ve seen in the second quarter of the season. If we continue to put together little things we improve on, build a defense out of the guys we have, and keep guys healthy and returning this team might just find it’s groove in the sweet spot of the season. I’ve said it before and I’m sure I’ll say it again: this was always a question of when and not if the team would figure out how to play at a high level. While there are questions about how we’ll play when fully healthy, where Nunn fits into the rotation and can Monk sustain his current hot streak I think we have the pieces in-house to do some serious damage in the playoffs.

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    • I had a similar Kyrie moment too, Buba. Mine came when I started thinking about how we may “have” to move Russ now just to get cap space to keep Monk, who could be as important to LeBron and AD as Kyrie. And we’re talking about good Kyrie, not bad Kyrie.

    • Fiver of the Year, Jamie. Seriously, I couldn’t find a single comments with which I disagreed. Accurate and objective. The Lakers, where optimism and reality collide and merge.

      1. Malik. Sometimes the basketball gods giveth and taketh. Going to to tough to keep Malik if he keeps playing like this. Russ is the key if we want to keep Monk. No other way. He’s going to get a lot more than the $6M we can offer right now. It’s ironic, I probably don’t see any reason to trade Russ right now other than trading for Simmons or getting under the cap or at least the luxury tax so we can somehow keep Monk.

      2. Bradley: I take back everything bad that I’ve ever said about your game. You’ve shown me you belong. You’re playing just like you were before the bubble season got interrupted. You were the star for the weekend massacre of Bucks and Clippers and you missed the chance due to your son and Covid. Welcome back.

      3. Great to see Talen bounce back. With Rondo done, it will be interesting to see how Nunn returning affects the rotation. THT has to play well going forward as there is going to be a minutes crunch when AD and Nunn are both healthy. But good game for THT!

      4. Russ. Is. Fine. He’s learning, adjusting, and – like everywhere else he has played – gotten better as the year goes on. I’d done with the Russ bashers. Every game, I’m screaming; “Great Pass, Russ.” It’s a joke. Russ is a winner. And we’re going to prove it.

      5. The LeBron at the 5 era. Frankly, (LOL) I give Vogel credit for embracing the LeBron playing center and man, it is a handful for teams to handle during the regular season. What’s more, I think we could see Bron at the 5 with AD at the 4 against certain teams. That may be how the Lakers deal with Embiid and Jokic.

      Anyway, love how we’re doing and glad you’re enjoying the ride too. Let’s hope for a great effort on Sunday.

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    5 Things: Lakers keep it rolling against the Kings

    For the first time this season the Lakers beat an in-division rival on their homecourt, regardless of the corporate sponsorship. They also remained unbeaten in 2022. Riding hot finishes from James and Monk along with a zero turnover performance from Westbrook the Lakers held off a 4th quarter rally from Sacramento to move 1 game above .500.

    1. The motherf@#$ing problem that is LeBron James. The 30 point streak ended against the Wolves and through 3 quarters it looked like it would stay that way. But when the Kings came out swinging to start the 4th LeBron had been trying to answer with threes. They made an adjustment after an early timeout and LeBron started driving to the rim and the Kings were really slow to re-adjust and play him to drive and not shoot. LeBron got himself going on his drives to the rim slipping past the King “defense” for pretty easy buckets along with earning a couple trips to the line, as well.
    2. Malik Monk earning his next big payday…wherever that may end up being. If I’m Rob I’m penciling in whatever amount we can off Malik via the MLE come the offseason. It’s highly likely he could earn more elsewhere but, seeing as we gave him a shot at PT, he may be open to a one season deal and then re-upping long term once we have his early Bird rights. Regardless to what goes down after this season Monk is straight hooping right now. His defense is a lot better than advertised, he’s able to get his own shot, create for others and he can get white hot form three. His game is already expanded beyond my expectations this season. Love me some Monk and I hope we figure out a way to keep for a good long while.
    3. THT plays up to his hype. Talen ended his long, multi-game 0-fer streak from three, looked a lot more confident in everything he was doing and in general played like the player we all hope he can become more consistently. He created a lot of shots for others, scored efficiently, and played solid defense. I’ll forever want THT to rebound better, I think, but all in all hard to find fault in such a positive game for the young man who is still going through his NBA growing pains.
    4. Dwight Howard’s season high night. Dwight hadn’t yet scored 14 points this season as last night was his season high. Not sure why that surprised me so much but it did. Dwight was the force on the glass that we so desperately needed grabbing a game high 14 rebounds with a 50/50 split between offensive and defensive rebounds. We may or may not start Dwight ever again and it doesn’t matter. The dude puts on his yellow hard hat and goes to work when called upon. We only need one, though, and between DAJ and himself Dwight is, by far, the superior player. Time to let DeAndre loose into the wild and see where his true home is.
    5. Alvin was right to be so pissed off. That rule is insane and how it hasn’t been abused by some random clock keeper to OH MY GOSH DID I JUST FORCE A JUMP BALL?!?!?! an NBA game is kind of astounding. I read it as “If the clock starts before a player has touched the ball off of a missed free throw the teams must jump center” which, in theory, makes sense. The thing was, in this case, everyone had left Fox to grab the rebound on his own. He was, basically, the only one going for the board for whatever reason. So it REALLY set the Kings back a possession late in the game when they had already secured the rebound, clock being right or not. Odd rule that certainly needs some revisiting.

    For a hot minute I thought we had poo-poohed this game away and the Lakers came back and took it from the Kings, odd rule or no. We did a great job maximizing our possessions by valuing the ball and getting way more FGAs than the Kings did. We need to keep that mentality and score better and we’ll hold the fort until AD gets back just fine.

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    • Aloha Jaime, nice post. One thing that caught my eye was the amount of play making that THT and Monk were doing. THT had 6 assists and Monk had 4 but to be fair he should have had 6, with Dwight missing a dunk and a bobbled lob. Moving forward I would like to see this continue. It take the pressure off of both LeBron and Russ.

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    5 Things: Lakers beat short-handed Wolves

    The short-handed Timberwolves fell to the not quite as short-handed, but definitely short, Lakers on Sunday evening. While proving that they’re record isn’t s fluke by giving LA a real run for it’s money up until the closing seconds the team from Minnesota also revealed another thing about the Lakers and their current style of play. The small ball Lakers can’t rebound for doodley squat.

    1. Lakers got walloped on the glass. 56-28 good for a 2-1 Timberwolves advantage for the game. They grabbed 20 offensive boards which was only 8 below our rebound total for the game. If there’s a major drawback to LeBron at the 5 it’s this: rebounding. The younger, more athletic and energetic T’wolves crashed the glass all game long and that led to a 17 shot advantage (luckily for the Lakers the FGM was closer, only +5 for Minny). Against a young team minus two star players that wasn’t enough to turn the game into another disappointing loss. Against better competition it likely would have been worse. The kryptonite to LBJ at the 5 is the utter lack of rebounding.
    2. It’s hard to pin the massive discrepancy in points in the paint scoring on LBJ at the five. That’s been an issue all season long. 58-32 which was a result of more transition buckets for the Wolves and the offensive rebounds they gathered. While the Lakers have been giving up big numbers in the paint all season it’s also impossible to argue that having LeBron man the 5 improves that area. Like the rebounding issue, against the team the Wolves trotted out, it wasn’t quite enough to swing the W to an L but against better and/or healthier teams it almost certainly would.
    3. Russ playing really free. Too free? He almost had a double-double with his turnovers. A couple of those weren’t on Russ. Bradley fumbled a catchable pass out of bounds, a couple of times he was led by pass into an offensive foul and those things will happen. But there were a good 4 preventable turnovers that you can see drive Westbrook bonkers. They drive me bonkers, too! I no longer really expect this issue to magically disappear or resolve itself. This is all a part of The Russell Westbrook Experience so buckle up and enjoy the good, hope that the bad isn’t too bad and that we reduce the ugly to a minimum.
    4. Bradley, Monk and Melo saved the game. LeBron wasn’t stroking the three ball like he had been and his point total reflected that. For once he got a few foul calls go his way and so he was able to boost his output with some makes at the stripe (a decent 9-12 for the King) but overall this was a game that LeBron looked pretty gassed throughout. It’s not too surprising given his overall level of responsibility to drive the team to wins, that he’s playing the most MPG he ever has as a Laker (37.0, currently) and playing more 5 than ever which means more banging in the post than he’d been accustomed to. All of this means that we needed some of our other guys to step up. Melo was Melo hitting 2-3 midrange jumpers to keep the scoring moving when we needed it and hitting 3-7 three pointers. Monk was solid all game and Bradley hit the three that sealed the win to go along with a superb defensive effort. The contributions of all three were vital to keeping us in the winning column.
    5. Decisions, decisions, decisions. With the fate of Bradley, Johnson and Collison coming to a head over the next 6 days it’ll be interesting to see how each is used and the impact they have. Darren didn’t play last night and Stanley had a subpar game in that he didn’t make a shot but managed a point on a free throw. I’m hopeful we keep Stanley and let Collison walk as I believe Bradley is a better defender and is already on board with what the Lakers are doing. Regardless a choice on Bradley’s deal has to be made by Friday and Johnson and Collison will be released unless an offer is extended on Monday. With two games (Kings and Hawks) between then there isn’t much to go on. If it’s my choice I keep Bradley and Johnson and if you really value what Darren brings then you wave DAJ. Other than that, Collison is my odd man out as things stand today. If Ariza didn’t look like the mummy out there in terms of his fluidity and overall speed I could be convinced that keeping Collison was the smarter move on the basis of raw talent. But we need size and defense, Stanley has both.

    Another game we ought to win tonight against the hapless Kings. Still, we need to show up with good effort and intensity. Likely another LBJ at the 5 for the most part although I wouldn’t be too surprised to see Dwight in there or even DAJ in a “show me what you got dude” kind of thing since we’re coming up on some major roster choices. Normally the end of the bench guys don’t warrant this much haranguing but with the sheer volume of games missed due to COVID and injuries it’s led to the last guys on the pine getting more chances to shine.

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    • Nice 5 Jamie, I’ve been reading that Stanley and the Lakers are talking. And just from Frank’s post game comments I expect us to sign him. Although we kind of wasted him in the last game having him guarding Reid, who was obviously to big for him to handle. He’s better guarding wings. I’m actually giving Trevor a break. This is his preseason right now, so it’s going to take a little time for him to find his legs and a rhythm. I actually think we may see Dwight start. The Kings go big a the 4 and 5. All the coaches have been saying that match ups will dictate our small ball line ups, so we will see.

    • Good fiver, Jamie. 2 down. 5 to go. 7-game win streak.

      1. Lakers got walloped on the glass. We have to remember that we will really be a small team playing small ball until AD returns and until Ariza or somebody we trade for bolsters small forward. I like that Frank is challenging guys to win the boards. If they can do that, it will pay off in the long run. Box out. Clean the glass.

      2. Points in the Paint. Same here. LeBron will get a few blocks but he’s not the rim protector that AD is. Frankly, I like the idea of LeBron at the five more than AD at the five. Let AD roam and be the help shot blocker while LeBron bruises everybody in the paint. But learning how to win this without AD is important.

      3. Russ playing really free. While I would trade Russ for the right deal, I do still believe the Lakers superstar big three can work. It will need Russ to adjust a little, which I think he is already doing. Just need to get him to play smart and play D. If he does that, we can live with the turnovers and missed layups.

      4. Bradley, Monk, and Melo. I would add Reaves to that list. It’s no coincidence that the Lakers’ record when he plays is 14-5. Four non-superstar players whom Frank can trust to make the right play. In many ways, their play is almost as important as that of the three superstars. Monk, Melo, Bradley, and Reaves are just upgraded versions of last year’s McLemore, Kuzma, KCP, and Caruso.

      5. Decisions, decisions, decisions. Wait until tomorrow and say goodbye to Collison, sign Johnson to a new 10-day, and guarantee Bradley’s contract. Here’s our roster heading into the trade deadline:

      PG: WESTBROOK, Horton-Tucker, Nunn
      SG: MONK, Bradley, Ellington
      SF: JAMES, Reaves, Bazemore
      PF: ARIZA, Anthony, Johnson
      CE: DAVIS, Howard, Jordan

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    5 Things: Lakers rout Trailblazers behind superb effort by The King

    There really are no more words that can be said. We are, again, witnessing a kind of greatness you can kind of imagine happening but when you see it on a nightly basis you realize that there is nothing to do but sit back and appreciate it. I’m in many ways reminded of the Kobe era betwixt Shaq and Pau. When it was Kobe and the nobodies. When he outscored Dallas on his own over 3 quarters, 81 points but no rings to show for it or even an MVP. While not quite as lofty in terms of raw scoring output LeBron is defying his age and the expectations that come with it. We should all enjoy this ride.

    1. LeBron is cooking with gas. If he doesn’t win Western Conference Player of the Month for December the accolade is worthless. Truth be told, it is. But the games LeBron has strung together have not been. Most of them, unfortunately, have been losses. That’s not on James, it’s on the state of the NBA due to COVID (I am of the opinion the league should have shut down for December) and the teammates who have been MIA. Most of that has been due to the ravages the Omnicron variant is wreaking on society, the NBA and many of the Lakers. There will always be those that seek to denigrate the greatness that comes from hard work, dedication and modicum of epic talent. I am not one and quite happy to say that early season LeBron (the one I called done) was merely a function of preparation. We don’t need to get into the specifics of how well Lebron played last night. The dude is on fire.
    2. Russell Westbrook driving the train. It’s easy to forget, or forcibly overlook, how well Russ has been playing in December, as well. Like any player, there will be misses and some of those have come at critical junctures. The great ones fail. That’s a condition of them being human beings. What separates the great from the good and mediocre is that they never allow a failure to define them. They find a way to improve, rise above, and persevere. I have been, and still am, of the opinion that Westbrook and the Lakers will work at an elite level that it was only a matter of how long the merging would take. Russ is playing with the same level of aggression and passion he always does, it’s just that he has a teammate better than he’s had in some time. Russ and LeBron are having the same issue AD and Russ did: trying to win with a cast of ill-fitting parts assembled on the cheap. Until we see what the trio of Russ, LeBron and AD can do, with whatever coupla dudes can manage to make an impact, we haven’t seen the true potential of this Laker team. 113 minutes, that’s what we’ve seen.
    3. When Melo has it going this team can be special. It’s no secret that Melo has had an up and down season. We need for Carmelo to find a consistency to his game which I think he’s searching for in the midrange. That’s cool by me, I also like the defense he’s been flashing on occasion. We need Carmelo to be the scoring threat he’s been his whole career, just to a lesser degree. I think he’s up to it. Midrange, inside or from three Anthony is the one Laker on the bench I trust taking any shot that comes his way.
    4. The Stanley Johnson effect. Everyone is going ga-ga over Johnson’s impact, which is assuredly tangible. In fact he’s been such a force on defense it’s easy to overlook the rate at which he picks up fouls. We desperately need him to stay in the floor because he can defend 4, maybe 5 positions when the game goes small. We also need him to keep shooting the open shots Russ and LeBron create. We don’t need him to score like we need Melo to do in order to create space but you at least want to keep the defense honest with the threat of making the open shot. That doesn’t happen if you don’t shoot so it’s been nice to see him shooting those shots. If he can reduce his rate of fouls it’ll be even better.
    5. Too many rebounding issues. This is why I personally don’t see LeBron at the 5 as the be all end of all of ways the Lakers can play. When he’s the center we are getting murdered on the glass, even when the other team goes small. It’s because he cannot do everything that we will need Howard and AD for large stretches of any game. That or we need guys who have never been box out candidates to figure out how to box out. Rebounding will likely be the thorn in this team’s side, we just don’t have a lotta gritty dudes who put a body on the opposition and fight for the board. Russ, AD, LeBron are all weak side rebounders, they’re not like a Howard or even, theoretically, DeAndre Jordan battling it out among multiple defenders and securing the board. They let someone else do the battling and use their athleticism to grab the rebound. That will need to be addressed but until we get Davis back there are going to be long stretches where LeBron handles the center position just to get some more offense on the floor around him and Russ.

    Sunday kicks off a 5 game homestand that we could really stand to win most of. Sweeping the next 5 games would go a long way towards separating ourselves from the pack of the mediocre teams in the western conference. If we keep on treading water around .500 we’re going to end up as a playin. We have to handle our business and soon as we’ve been lucky the west hasn’t been as strong as it has in last seasons. That luck will run out eventually and it would be better for all involved to be in a position of strength rather than wishing we had won a game here or there we dropped in a silly fashion.

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    • Best fiver of the year, Jamie. We finally are almost in 100% agreement, at least for the moment. 👍

      1. LeBron is cooking with gas. From washed to MVP candidate, that’s what we’ve seen from LeBron. LeBron will save the Lakers.

      2. Russell Westbrook driving the train. Look at what he’s doing, not what he’s saying. Russ is adjusting his game to play with LeBron.

      3. Melo is indeed a weapon. At least, it appears he will get red hot in two out of every three games at this point.

      4. Stanley Johnson needs to gamble less. Just overtrying to win that permanent roster spot. We need his size and athleticism.

      5. Going to need to gang rebound until AD gets back. Imagine LeBron at the five and AD at the four. That could be the front court of the future.

      And yes, we should win the next 6 games on the schedule to have a 7-game win streak before we play the Jazz in mid-January.

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    Longest stare down ever. Never would have thought Kyrie would have a chance of playing before Ben. Lol, wacky league they got there, man…

    $10 million in fines for Simmons

    Longest stare down ever. Never would have thought Kyrie would have a chance of playing before Ben. Lol, wacky league they got there, man…

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    • I still think Russ will be the best offer that Morey will receive for Ben Simmons, whom there are very few teams who either have the assets to make this trade or the willingness to gamble on Ben at this point in his career. Russ will be the best Daryl can do.

    • I doubt if anyone will make a serious offer for Simmons until it’s close to the deadline. Teams are going to wait to see how much the 76ers are willing to budge from their unrealistic asking price.

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    5 Things: Refs give gift for LeBron to wrong team

    The more I thought about it the more annoyed I got. 3, one of them a tech for defensive three seconds. That was the number of free throws Russ and LeBron shot…combined. Now, lest ye think I’m laying the loss at the feet of the referees, there were many other areas of egregious play on the Lakers part last night. But if someone were to tell me that Russell Westbrook and LeBron James would combine for only 3 FTA (all by James, by the by) and the other team (in this case the youthful Grizzlies who started off as one of the worst defensive teams in the Association) shot 29 I would say you were watching a game one of the refs had some cash invested in.

    1. 29 to 8. That was the difference in free throw attempts between the Grizzlies and Lakers. That is an absurd differential given that Russ basically attacks the basket all game, every game. Russ missed another late game shot at the rim, had 5 turnovers and otherwise had an efficient game (by Westbrookian standards) but to imagine him not getting hit on any shot, that the young Grizzlies are just that good at defense, that they only committed 11 fouls to our 25 is basically absurd. I call BS.
    2. Ok, but for reals, we lost the game all on our own. The defense after the first half basically stayed in the locker room. Not sure what Fizzy’s calling card is as a coach but it ain’t halftime adjustments and it ain’t defensive chops. We never found an answer for Ja Morant who got what he wanted, where he wanted, and when he wanted it all game long. The only that slowed him down was a hard foul on Westbrook that resulted in a shoulder stinger late in the game and we couldn’t even capitalize on that. Gone was the late game execution, as well. Not gonna lie, kind of can’t wait for Frank to get back.
    3. The Laker bench was awful. Starting with Melo and wandering down the box score not one Laker player off the bench showed up. Too much BBQ ribs, I guess. A game later from their inspired play against the woebegone Rockets the Grizzly bench thoroughly outplayed ours which was the biggest difference in the game.
    4. The birthday boy ran outta gas. LeBron was superlative through 2/3s of the basketball game and then came his 3rd quarter rest which was also when Fizdale chose to put Russ and 4 guys who can’t shoot out there and watched the lead slip away. All the momentum swung Memphis’ way and that was that. The King tied his career high for three pointer’s made with 8, scored from everywhere and flirted with a triple-double. It was all for naught.
    5. Russ is not the problem. Gerald and I went back and forth on this topic and likely will for as long as Westbrook is on the team. The degree of variance you get from Russ is high, his intensity, pace and frenetic style of play lend themselves to miscues and missed shots due to mostly the force in which he puts the shot up with. But Russ isn’t the one trotting out absurd lineups like Westbrook, Collison, THT, Stanley and Bradley for long stretches as we saw last night. On the second night game of a back-to-back Coach Dave went with a really short 9 man rotation which didn’t get the job done. Ellington didn’t play and we signed 2 guys to hardship deals only to leave them in warm ups to this point. When you need energy, as we desperately did throughout the 4th, you have to wonder what the coach was thinking putting his star guard into a position like that.

    Friday kicks off a 5 game home stand, this is basically the end of our “games we can burn in the name of learning” stage of the season. The standings are taking shape and they’re not including a Laker team in any spot near the top. We’re fighting for a 5 seed like the rest of the lackluster west is behind the Grizz, Jazz, Suns and GS. We need to avoid the playin because we’re old, although an argument could be made this team also needs more time together. Come March and April we’ll look back at the number of league-leading ten point games we blew and wonder what could have been. There is a lot that needs to change between now and then. The bench needs to get steadier, we need to explore what we can get for the thus far underwhelming and yet to play THT and Nunn and I’m sure the noise around a Russ trade will only grow until it either happens or the deadline passes. The team needs to tune all that jazz out and focus on the in-house solutions available to them.

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    • Aloha Jaime, nice post as usual. For me a couple of thoughts. This is what getting older looks like in NBA terms. We ran out of gas, especially in the 4th. It really wasn’t even the defense. A lot of standing around on offense. The Griz scored 26 in the 4th, which isn’t a disaster but our 16 was. Fatigue causes lack of focus and both Russ and LeBron lost focus in the 4th. And Melo another oldster never could get it going on the back end of a road back to back. Our Thin bench didn’t help. And why didn’t we see more Dwight? He was a plus 17. Now his stats weren’t great but he kept a lot of rebounds alive. The Griz had 13 offensive rebounds for 19 points. But not on Dwight’s watch. There is a flip side to going small and giving up all those offensive boards with Dwight off the floor is a good example of a that.

    • Happy New Year, Jamie. Great fiver with lots to get into.

      1. The Zebras. One thing I hate about doing podcasts right after the game is you don’t have time to really review all the stats. I thought the refs were doing their normal job of screwing the big-name Lakers since the announcers never broached the subject. I also missed much of your opening comments catching up with the game after taking off time for Covid tests so I was shocked after the show to learn how badly we had been jobbed by the zebras. Forget everything else. Gave over.

      2. Yeah, we lost but I don’t know how that was not a 3-point foul for violating LeBron’s landing spot on the overturned foul call. Truth was the refs put us in such a hole all game long that it would have been a freakin’ miracle if we had won. The disrespect for contact when LeBron or Russ drive is criminal. We clearly had some bad lineups out there but then that’s what happens when you have so many key players injured or in H&S protocols. Just must live with it for now.

      3. Bench was awful? What bench? That’s the spill-over from having to start guys who should be coming off the bench. You no longer have a bench. While all the Lakers starters had positive +/-, all the bench players were negative for game. We were missing Davis, Nunn, Reaves, and Ariza, probably four of our best eight players? Yeah, they missed Brooks. But we were playing the #4 seed with their superstar shining bright and should have won the game if not for the refs. I’ll take that as progress.

      4. That Russ and four non-shooters lineup killed me too, Jamie. Frank has to be happy that he got to miss this stretch of games as Fizdale didn’t ace this as any kind of interview. Man, when you have this kind of a roster with so many flawed players, you need to sit down before the game and decide what rules you need to follow. Who can’t you play with whom? How many shooters and defenders in each lineup? Do you stagger Russ and LeBron? Who can play with Russ? Fizdale was flying by the seat of his pants and got burned by that lineup for sure.

      5. Russ is not the problem. Let me put this another way: How Russ is playing is not the major problem with the Lakers. Injuries and Covid have been bigger forces that have held the Lakers back. However, Russ’ stye of game forces the Lakers to play a certain way and his presence as a third star limits the team to only being able to have two other starters to complement the three superstars. I’m not going to waste time redoing the Westbrook trade or offseason moves. What’s important right now is we need to make smart moves at the trade deadline. If we stand pat like you think we will do, you can write this season off on February 10th because it would take a miracle for this roster to produce a championship in my opinion. We need a trade for a player like Turner, Simmons, Grant, Barnes, or Wood.

      I also think LeBron should and will stay at the five when AD returns. He’s going to finish his career as a small ball center. That and a big trade will save this season.

    • Lebron came into this back-to-back in energy reserve mode. You could tell he was not gonna be as aggressive after that monster effort needed to put away the woeful Rockets. Looking at his shot chart he only took 5 shots in the paint..so he wasn’t gonna get a whole buncha free throws. And I’m trying to remember if I ever jumped up and said something shoulda been a foul on Russ. As for Fizz, he’s just keeping the seat warm for Frankie..not anytime to implement his own system. Ellington missed the HOU game with an illness; guessing that’s also why he didn’t play in this one. Felt like Dwight shoulda been in late for rim protection since Jah had everybody on roller skates. Maybe it was still a covid re-conditioning thing.

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    5 Things: Lakers snap skid against Rockets

    The Lakers ended their longest losing streak of the season in convincing fashion against the rebuilding Rockets who still made a game of it up until the closing moments when some inspired execution sealed the win for LA. Driving the Laker train to victory were the usual cast of accomplished NBA vets on the roster and the young player who has best distinguished himself this season, one Malik Monk. Defense was borderline non-existent but, for at least one night, we scored the ball well enough to win.

    1. LeBron as the starting big man. For the first time in his entire basketball life (according to his own personal recollections) LeBron James started a basketball game at the center position. Against the all-small-ball-all-the-time Rockets it worked brilliantly. His triple-eleven (11 FG’s made, 11 rebounds and 11 assists) resulted in 32 points, a steal and a block along with a much needed win. As basically a de facto point center for much of the game LeBron really did it all. He and Russ teamed for 4 big offensive rebounds, he only turned the ball over 3 times and had a great two-man game working with Westbrook to close out the game for the win. There will be matchups LeBron at center doesn’t make much sense but there will also be matchups where it makes a lotta sense to put LeBron at the 5 and let the game flow around him like it did last night. His triple-double with a fellow teammate was the first since he and Lonzo Ball did it prior to the AD trade.
    2. Russell Westbrook’s big game. Russ had a really solid efficient and impactful game, as well. He managed one more rebound than LeBron to, again, lead both teams in rebounding for a second straight game. He and LeBron greatly benefitted from the first on-court practice the team had on Monday as he picked his spots better, developed a powerful two-man vibe with The King and was his energetic best. The way Russ plays the game of basketball is not without risk, but the reward can be quite high. Yes, he had 7 turnovers. Between he and LeBron we need them to stay at 10 combined TO’s which was where they ended up. I am of the opinion the Lakers can win with Russ et al on the roster. For m it’s still a question of when and not if.
    3. The ever-shrinking role of THT. Things are not good over at the THT Fan Club HQ. His shot has left him, his defense remains spotty and for the most part he hasn’t lived up to his deal he inked over the summer. While being a trade piece of literally every single Laker trade idea floated THT’s overall quality of play has steadily declined over the course of the season. He and journeyman and freshly arrived Stanley Johnson were the only Lakers to post a negative +/- (granted only minus 2 for Talen) and he picked up 5 quick fouls which meant he never really found any kind of groove. I want to believe in Horton-Tucker but there’s a lot of things you just can’t fix on one summer. If I’m his agent I would encourage THT to focus on defense, defense, defense. The league is full of guys who score in one fashion or another but rugged defenders that can get to the rim are in short supply. THT too often shies away from contact as he tries to loop the ball around shot blockers with his long arms rather than take it up strong. I’m sure that worked well enough coming up to the NBA level but it’s not a great recipe for success at the highest level. While I don’t see him as a bust, he’s not a future star, either. He isn’t really a needle-mover, yet and may never be. His deal is manageable which is why a trade for another ill-fitting player on another team seems the most likely outcome of a THT trade. He’s not the guy you blow up a team for, just like Kuzma before him.
    4. Carmelo as the back up center? Hey, if it works for LeBron it should work fir a guy who he came into the league with, right? Well, for one night, it did. Seeing his majority of minutes come at positions he used to balk at playing (the 4 and 5) Melo came up big in the scoring department and grabbed 9 rebounds of his own and blocking 2 shots. We need Melo to show up like this a little more often as his play play has been pretty uneven over the last couple weeks. His scoring has come in spurts and we need to find someone other than Malik Monk who can get buckets off the bench consistently.
    5. Malik Monk distinguishing himself. It’s going to be hard to keep this dude on the roster. Any trade scenario one might care to cook up should include Monk as the sweetener and THT as the ballast because that’s the reality thus far. Monk had a stellar game in a starting role (one I am of the opinion he should given full time) and paired well with very Bradley defensively in the back court to start the game. He was aggressive when we needed it getting to the line 8 times and blocking 2 shots of his own. While Monk has been one of the better young Lakers thus far it’s also easy to see him having to be included in a trade based solely on the small raise (20% of his vet minimum deal he signed or an MLE) we can offer him this summer. It’s hard to see him choosing the Lakers over more money, you only get so many chances to snag a decent contract as a role-player.

    Another game tonight against Memphis with an early start time. The Grizzlies are rolling and have joined the 20+ win club along with the Jazz, Suns and Warriors. We need to bring the same execution and smart basketball we displayed late in the game last night if we want to win. Here’s hoping we can start another streak in the opposite direction (by that I mean a winning streak of any kind). Go Lakers.

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    • Always a lot more fun fiver after a win, Jamie.
      Great having you on the LFB podcast last night.

      1) LeBron starting at the five. There have been so many ‘big’ moments and events in this crazy Covid colored season that it’s hard to keep perspective. LeBron James starting at the five has to stand out as the ‘Big’ move of the season. Whether this was all Fizdale or Vogel, it was the right move for the Lakers to make at this point and may trigger the eventual evolution of LeBron as a small ball five.

      2) The 7 terrible turnovers and hilarious dribbling the ball off his foot coming up the court were the bad and the ugly but you can’t ignore the good as Russ’ rebounding, passing, and scoring in the final couple of minutes was glorious. I don’t think there’s another player on the Laker with the playmaking chops to have hit Bron with those two passes in the last minute for critical scores. Yes, you can win with Russ but it requires committing to really playing small ball. I do like the Russ and LeBron turnovers < 10 idea too.

      3) The ever-shrinking role of THT. Bad fit on the team from the get-go and basically misused by Vogel and Fizdale. Should come off the bench when LeBron is not on the court. The only good thing is teams who are going to want THT aren’t going to want him for what he is right now. They want him for what he’s going to be at 25 or 26-years old. The comparison being touted in Drew Holiday, point guard who can make plays, attack the rim, defend with vigor, and splash the three. Give Talen two or three years and you may get something close to that.

      4) Melo as backup center. I think the only reason Dwight didn’t play last night and might not play tonight is his conditioning after getting Covid. Melo certainly does not work as the backup center. At any rate, Melo was hot offensively which hid a lot of the problems. I would prefer Dwight as the backup center rather than Melo.

      5) Malik Monk as a starter. I like Reaves as the starter but I think the Lakers have to consider starting Malik. While his defense is not great, his ability to score at three levels and make plays for other set him apart. He’s either the starter at the two with Russ or second man off the bench after Melo.

      Going to be interesting to see how we play against the Grizzlies. I’m optimistic that we might have a second great game in a row and pull off a win. I just hope Fizdale doesn’t fold and start Dwight. Go small like last night and run Adams off the court with our small ball lineups. Lakers need to break the trend and pull off a big win tonight.

    • I think a lot of his problems stem from the way he attacks which is not generally with the intent to score or get fouled, it’s to avoid contact and get the shot off. THT should watch Ja Morant tonight for a” How to Attack the Hoop 101″ lesson. You go with the notion of breaking the rim off, not to get your arm around the shot blocker and not have a chance at getting to the line. His jumper is a confidence thing, agreed, but a lot of his intangibles point to his arm length as the X factor and that’s not enough at this level. He lacks a solid foundation and isn’t a good rebounder. Could he make adjustments, work on his core and leg strength, develop a jumper and attack with vigor? Sure. But not over one or even two, maybe three summers. So a lotta mights in regards to Talen. I’d love for him to have a string of great games and prove me wrong but just don’t see that happening .

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    Thats the number of players who have gone through the NBA H&SP’s this season to date. thats 101 more than the amount ofminutes our big 3 have played together. 201 is the number of players who have gone in during the nonth of December. 88 more than the anount of time Russ, LBJ and AD have had to coalesce. 170 players in justvthe last 2 weeks. You see where I’m going. Look, we might trade Russ in seasin, this summer or he might end his career as a Laker. Same goes for THT, Nunn and every other Laker currently on the roster. while the probability of all of them sticking with the Lakers for the foreseeable future is basically 0 the fact is that they’re Lakers right now. As such Im pulling for them to overcome the deficiencies of the group and figure out how to start winning some basketball games. If they get traded or sign elsewhere I’ll wish them luck, good health and good games with losses agaisnt the Lakers. Same as I do for Caruso, Ball, Randle, BI and Josh Hart. So lets find some team spirit, put away the Laker holiday hats (which are 0-fer on my side) and kick some ass tonight. Go Lakers.

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    Thats the number of players who have gone through the NBA H&SP’s this season to date. thats 101 more than the amount ofminutes our big 3 have played together. 201 is the number of players who have gone in during the nonth of December. 88 more than the anount of time Russ, LBJ and AD have had to coalesce. 170 players in justvthe last 2 weeks. You see where I’m going. Look, we might trade Russ in seasin, this summer or he might end his career as a Laker. Same goes for THT, Nunn and every other Laker currently on the roster. while the probability of all of them sticking with the Lakers for the foreseeable future is basically 0 the fact is that they’re Lakers right now. As such Im pulling for them to overcome the deficiencies of the group and figure out how to start winning some basketball games. If they get traded or sign elsewhere I’ll wish them luck, good health and good games with losses agaisnt the Lakers. Same as I do for Caruso, Ball, Randle, BI and Josh Hart. So lets find some team spirit, put away the Laker holiday hats (which are 0-fer on my side) and kick some ass tonight. Go Lakers.

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    • Right on, Jamie. Agree 100%. Whether we make a big trade or not, we need the guys we have to start playing a whole lot better or we don’t have a chance of winning a ring this year.

    • The good part it that I think the Western Conference playoff teams are already set. Hard for me to see POR, SAC, OKC, NO, HOU jumping into the mix and knocking us out while we figure it out. So there’s no need to panic.

      My hope is that AD is realizing that the fanbase is beginning to turn against him and he finds what’s been missing while he’s rehabbing. If he can somehow find his inner Lebron/Giannis and actually dominate games on a nightly basis then alotta problems will magically disappear. But there are far too many games when you forget he’s even on the floor. That can’t happen with a Top 5 talent in this league.

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    The number of minutes we’ve seen Russ, AD, and LeBron play. While I would like for Russ to have made his dunk last night with less than a minute to play that did not lose us the game. We lost the game on defense where we allowed Wayne Ellington and THT far too much time guarding James Harden. We’ve suffered a talent drain from the coaching staff and on the bench and tried to bandage it up with David Fizdale and 33 year old and up minimum deals.

    I stand by the point I’ve made a couple of times now: you cannot spend on three superstars and be unwilling to surround them with the proper personnel. Ownership saw the bill with Russ, AD, and LBJ and then blanched when it came time to add desert and appetizers to the three course meal. That’s just unacceptable. Adding Caruso would have given everyone more tools. Rob in trades, the coaches on defense, and LeBron and AD a guy who they had been in the trenches with. No offense to THT but he wasn’t an instrumental member of a championship team.

    Trading away most of the team for Russ was a gamble I can live with. Not going to the proper lengths to assure them of having a quality team around them is a dereliction of duty. Given the tools Rob had after trading, two Bird’s Right deals he could re-sign, there were few options available and we blew one of them completely.

    Now, having said all that, Russ needs to make shots. He’s paid to make shots. Yes, he brings a lot of other things to the table but at the end of the day you either need to be responsible for points scored or points taken away via solid defense. Russ and his 11 assists accounted for at least 22 points but his shots missed took away a lot of that good. That’s the thing, though. Kobe would have kept shooting, LeBron keeps shooting, Russ kept shooting. You can’t ding a superstar for trying to be, well, super.

    There are far more problems with the array of minimum deals to one-dimensional and/or old players than with Westbrook’s play and there’s certainly not an easy path around that fact. Swap Russ for Ben? You take away even more points and no guarantee one man adds a defensive presence when he won’t be the one targeted. Just because Ben is on the team doesn’t mean teams won’t focus on picking on Wayne, THT or Monk. We need a defensive presence in the paint more than maybe any other team with playoff hopes.

    Sadly, Dwight is not the answer. He’s even older when he only had a minimum role 2 seasons ago and now is recovering from COVID, as he said in the post gamer. DAJ was never the answer and was a terrible addition especially when one considers the players that were available at the time (Damion Jones and Nemanja Bjelica come to mind instantly). If there is a way on Earth we can trade THT and Nunn for Turner it has to be done in the name of giving the Lakerteers and the coaching staff the proper tools to win now. The choice of THT was something that, likely, was trying to keep an eye on the future and in the hope of adding someone who was more of a dynamic scorer than Caruso. The sad truth is they made the wrong choice by choosing not to retain Caruso AND Talen as that would have given Rob the most tools to do his job properly, as well.

    It’s absolutely fine to critique the players, coaches and team. As fans we have zero true input but we do pay money to watch these guys on TV and in arenas, and are more invested in the team than many of the players are. As a kid from Long Beach Russ grew up loving the team we all love. So yes, his game has holes that need the right teammates to fill, so does LeBron and AD. We didn’t deliver them those teammates, we didn’t give Frank the right tools to execute his defense, and for Rob to be able to make bigger moves. None of that is on Westbrook.

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    The number of minutes we’ve seen Russ, AD, and LeBron play. While I would like for Russ to have made his dunk last night with less than a minute to play that did not lose us the game. We lost the game on defense where we allowed Wayne Ellington and THT far too much time guarding James Harden. We’ve suffered a talent drain from the coaching staff and on the bench and tried to bandage it up with David Fizdale and 33 year old and up minimum deals.

    I stand by the point I’ve made a couple of times now: you cannot spend on three superstars and be unwilling to surround them with the proper personnel. Ownership saw the bill with Russ, AD, and LBJ and then blanched when it came time to add desert and appetizers to the three course meal. That’s just unacceptable. Adding Caruso would have given everyone more tools. Rob in trades, the coaches on defense, and LeBron and AD a guy who they had been in the trenches with. No offense to THT but he wasn’t an instrumental member of a championship team.

    Trading away most of the team for Russ was a gamble I can live with. Not going to the proper lengths to assure them of having a quality team around them is a dereliction of duty. Given the tools Rob had after trading, two Bird’s Right deals he could re-sign, there were few options available and we blew one of them completely.

    Now, having said all that, Russ needs to make shots. He’s paid to make shots. Yes, he brings a lot of other things to the table but at the end of the day you either need to be responsible for points scored or points taken away via solid defense. Russ and his 11 assists accounted for at least 22 points but his shots missed took away a lot of that good. That’s the thing, though. Kobe would have kept shooting, LeBron keeps shooting, Russ kept shooting. You can’t ding a superstar for trying to be, well, super.

    There are far more problems with the array of minimum deals to one-dimensional and/or old players than with Westbrook’s play and there’s certainly not an easy path around that fact. Swap Russ for Ben? You take away even more points and no guarantee one man adds a defensive presence when he won’t be the one targeted. Just because Ben is on the team doesn’t mean teams won’t focus on picking on Wayne, THT or Monk. We need a defensive presence in the paint more than maybe any other team with playoff hopes.

    Sadly, Dwight is not the answer. He’s even older when he only had a minimum role 2 seasons ago and now is recovering from COVID, as he said in the post gamer. DAJ was never the answer and was a terrible addition especially when one considers the players that were available at the time (Damion Jones and Nemanja Bjelica come to mind instantly). If there is a way on Earth we can trade THT and Nunn for Turner it has to be done in the name of giving the Lakerteers and the coaching staff the proper tools to win now. The choice of THT was something that, likely, was trying to keep an eye on the future and in the hope of adding someone who was more of a dynamic scorer than Caruso. The sad truth is they made the wrong choice by choosing not to retain Caruso AND Talen as that would have given Rob the most tools to do his job properly, as well.

    It’s absolutely fine to critique the players, coaches and team. As fans we have zero true input but we do pay money to watch these guys on TV and in arenas, and are more invested in the team than many of the players are. As a kid from Long Beach Russ grew up loving the team we all love. So yes, his game has holes that need the right teammates to fill, so does LeBron and AD. We didn’t deliver them those teammates, we didn’t give Frank the right tools to execute his defense, and for Rob to be able to make bigger moves. None of that is on Westbrook.

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    • Excellent post, Jamie. Can’t disagree with any of it. Lakers clearly traded Caruso to save luxury taxes when they desperately needed a tradable contract, not to mention a player who can play elite defense. But that’s always been the Lakers’ approach to paying luxury taxes. Jerry never paid them. Jeanie’s the same.

      As for Russ, I do agree the Lakers’ mess is not his fault but he also is responsible for doing what he can to make it work. Playing too fast and out of control and missing layups, making dumb turnovers, and playing kamakazi defense are not how you lead by example. Sorry, but Russ is not the problem but he’s also not the answer. Lakers must trade him. No other way out imo.

      Lakers need to think about going all-in on rebuilding their defense to be the best in the league. That means trying to get defensive difference-makers like Ben Simmons and Myles Turner to transform the Lakers size and defense. It won’t be easy but there is a path to the Lakers salvaging this season.

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    5 Things: Crypto starts where STAPLES left off

    O. For 0-fer, old and over the hill. That describes the majority of the Lakers roster at this point. Only one man seems capable of continuing to defy Father Time and that would be one LeBron James. The King continued to pour in points, give forth supreme effort and all in a loss. Another Christmas day game, another loss this one to the equally short handed Nets. Hopefully Santa treated the rest of your holidays with more grace.

    1. All hail The King. There aren’t enough superlatives.. The man is bionic, amazing and nigh unstoppable. If we had half a team around him we’d be doing better. We don’t. LeBron James outdueled James Harden in terms of points scored but the Nets walked away with the W for reasons we’ll get into down yonder. LBJ had a monster line although I don’t quite get how Harden got to the line 17 times and James only 9. That Nets defense I guess…couldn’t be the Captain of the Flop getting his way by whining on literally every single possession. Oh, Harden gave THT what maybe should have been a Flagrant 2 groin shot, as well. Keep it classy, James.
    2. Russell Westbrook’s effort if not results. I have to agree with LeBron, that Russ isn’t the problem. He’s putting forth the right kind of effort and no Laker fan should have mistaken Russ for Dame in terms fo scoring output. Russ led both teams in every rebounding category possible. He grabbed 5 offensive rebounds on his own. He led both teams in assists which means he’s making the right plays while only turning it over 3 times. The problem was Russ often played when LeBron sat and our starting five got obliterated. SO, to put the whole loss at Westbrook’s feet is, to me, an improper placing of blame. Yes, the rim blocked his dunk in his 37th minute of play but he’s also been one of a few Lakers available for every single game to date. While Russ may not be the player we want, or even need, he is doing what he can. It’s not Westbrook’s fault Rob chose aged players in doling out minimum deals last summer, not Westbrook’s fault THT is playing like a G-Leaguer or that we’re now relying on G-Leaguers to win NBA games. That’s just the situation he finds himself in. The missed dunk was infuriating, though. I doubt anyone was as pissed at him as he was at himself.
    3. We need THT to return to something resembling what we believe he can be. Again, I don’t need him to be the second coming of anyone at all, just to be the THT we’ve seen in flashes. Play adequate defense, take it to the rim with purpose and not to avoid contact and get the shot off. As the 4th highest paid Laker, albeit with some distance between the sums of the top 3, we need more. The same can of course be said of Russel Westbrook but THT was chosen over another guy who we know makes a nightly impact and that, fair or not, is the barometer by which he will be measured. The problem is what he’s shown us he’s capable of. Like Kuzma before him if you our in 30 points and hit shots from everywhere fans will get frustrated when you don’t show that consistently. They get stuck on what you did a handful of times as opposed to being content with effort. In THT’s case, though, he still seems to blame his teammates for many of his defensive miscues. I though the intent of his groin shot from Harden should have resulted in an F2 ejection. Wasn’t a basketball move, you see James extend the arm deliberately and make contact. But, being the NBA poster boy for ref love has it’s advantages I guess.
    4. Speaking of the NBA referee’s union poster boy for love and care. The running stiff arm Harden uses feels like an offensive foul to me. If LeBron played like that and bowled guys over all over the court like Harden, CP3 and Trae Young do he’d be ejected most games for 6 fouls or flagrant fouls. That is an illegal clearing out of space, in my opinion. Evidently the NBA thinks it’s really great for the game, though.
    5. Stanley Johnson’s big game. Stan made a pretty solid Laker debut and I sure hope we keep him past the 10 day mark. There are few Lakers on the roster with his speed and size and we desperately need more of them. All it would take is to waive human log man DeAndre Jordan. But since we know that won’t be happening we’ll likely see Stan snagged by another team this season because Rob is such a genius GM…

    This is likely going to get worse before it gets better. Luckily we play in the western conference, which is a mess this season, so we’re still in the playoff picture. A loss by Dallas last night means we’re sitting at 7th place only one spot below the play-in threshold and with the news that Paul George will be out for an extended time due to a torn UCL we’re still alive and kicking. I do believe that, even with DeAndre Jordan on the roster, we have the pieces to contend purely on the play of LeBron James and this cast of old, slow players. The playoffs a re geared towards a slower pace of play, we have battle-tested vets, and the best player in the game today. Just need to get healthy and find a groove of any kind. Go Lakers.

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    • Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, Jamie.

      And thanks to you for the great job as co-publisher of Lakerholics.Com. We may disagree on specific issues but there’s never been a question of either of our love for the Lakers and playing the game of basketball how it’s supposed to be played.

      1. All hail The King. Anybody who doubts LeBron James continued greatness and status as a top-five player in the world, is just a freakin’ hater. Playing like a young man when you’re almost 37 is unbelievable. We just need to surround him with players who care and play as hard. Too many guys who won’t be here in June.

      2. Russell Westbrook’s Effort. I’ve been there with you on Russ from the get-go, Jamie, but it’s too much chaos for me to continue to support. I can live with turnovers and missed layups but when you don’t play defense or get back into the game after a bad play, it infects the entire team with a lack of caring that is inexcusable to me as a former player and coach. Time to move on.

      I don’t put last night’s loss on Russ as it is a team game but there comes a point in time when leaders should lead and, like it or not, Russ is a leader on this team and games like these show his leadership by example to be unacceptable. Playing hard some of the time is great. Quitting after a missed shot and not rotating or paying attention on defense is a killer. Yeah, the refs should have called fouls but not hustling afterwards is not acceptable.

      3. THT is a bust. There’s no other way to describe him at this point. He is not only playing poorly but has no chance of helping the team positively because he’s lost his confidence and cannot stay in front of his man on defense. He needs to be benched and brought back slowly and responsibly. Putting him in a role he is just not able to fulfill offensively or defensively is going to ruin him as a potential star player. No way he should be starting. Fizdale is a fool just like Vogel for trying to fit a square player into a round hole.

      4. Ref’s poster boy. Those push offs by Harden were all offensive fouls. He just has mastered keeping his arm close to the body, which is the measure the refs use to determine whether the push off was an offensive foul or not. There’s no player in the league that I dislike or disrespect more than James ]
      ‘Regular Season’ Harden. Hope the Nets and he fold and fade away.

      5. Give Stanley Johnson a contract. Right now, I don’t care if he can’t shoot. At least, we have one guy with the size, technique, and savvy to defend a player bigger than 6’ 5”. I keep hearing about how great KCP and Danny and Alex were but the truth is none of them ever seemed to be able to stay in front of players like Harden. I thought Johnson was the key to our comeback with his defense. Only one game but more than I’ve seen on D from a Laker this season on the perimeter. Far better than Avery Bradley.

      • And you’re right, it’s likely to get worse before better but that will help force Rob to make moves he might not make. We need to move Russ, THT, and Nunn to get more size, defense, and wins.

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    5 Things: Lakers routed by Spurs in final game at STAPLES

    Ugly. Ain’t no other way to describe it. If excuses are your thing this is the Laker season for you. We got plenty to spare. The similarities to this season and last are striking both in their similarities and differences. The similarities stem from multiple injuries to key players, games missed for various reasons and a multitude of line up and rotation changes as a result. The difference is last season, without LeBron and Westbrook, that team bothered to show up to play. This team? Right now this team is just plain ugly.

    1. The Good. LeBron and Russell look ever more comfortable together when sharing the court. That’s a really good thing going forward. Since I personally don’t see a Westbrook trade happening in-season it’s imperative to any title hopes we might still have, which are still valid hopes in my opinion, that LeBron and Russ co-exist on a high level. I’d say combining for 66 points, 16 rebounds, and 10 assists qualifies, even in a loss. Russ kept the turnovers to five which is my benchmark for both players to stay at or under. They put pressure on the defense and found the open man. It’s after the pass that generally resulted in futility. Also, the Lakers as a team have done a good job not wasting possessions. Westbrook and James are likely going to average around 10 turnovers/game as result of their usage and on-ball dominance. It’s great when the rest of the team doesn’t cough it up a lot.
    2. The Bad. The three point shooting of this team is pretty awful in general. Sure, once and awhile player X catches fire and makes a bunch. Sometimes it’s Melo, other times it’s Wayne, or even THT. Rarely do we shoot well as a team and rarely do multiple guys make more than a couple. This is not a byproduct of personnel as the Lakers have now auditioned a “Who’s who?” of low-cost three point marksmen for a few seasons now. Since our cap is tied up in three players that isn’t likely to change, especially not midseason where the most we can expect is a THT or maybe Nunn trade or maybe seeing Jordan getting waived and picking up someone on the buyout market. That won’t be a Buddy or Seth level shooter, it’ll be another “I do one thing kinda OK” guy. The Lakers need to get back to what worked in the season they won the title and focus more on the defensive end by surrounding the stars with players who can truly play on both ends of the court. Defense wins championships. Three pointers do not. They help, sure, sometimes a lot in a game or three. They are a tool that has uses, like any offensive weapon. Sometimes shots fall, sometimes they don’t. But if you have a good defense it’s generally always there and keeps you in the game.
    3. The Ugly. Nothing is more irksome to me than a bunch of millionaires half-assing their way through a game. A. Game. Show up and have some goldurn pride in yourself. I’m not even talking Laker pride. IT wants to stick in the league? Cool bro, prove you should stick. G-Leaguer wants to show they should play at the big boy level? Put on some big boy pants and play like a man who cares. What transpired last night is plain unacceptable and I don’t care one single iota that we had players out. The players that did play, other than Westbrook, LeBron and Dwight (of whom not much is asked to be honest) didn’t do squat. Not many of the Lakers showed me they deserve more of anything except time on the bench. To a man they defended poorly, missed open shots and generally looked like they would rather be doing something else.
    4. Team Oxygen is back! Career high for Kata Bates-Diop of 30 points on a perfect 11-11 shooting. This from a dude who’s previous career high was…10 and averages 3.8 ppg. This was indicative of how poorly the Laker bench competed last night but also our total indifference to playing anything resembling defense. Had we managed to keep the lid on Diop like the rest of the league has figured how to do this might have actually been a ga-well, no actually lots of other Spurs had great nights against the matador Lakers. We did manage to keep Dejounte “I average a triple-double against LA” Murray in check. Whee.
    5. No more excuses. It’s getting really, really sad how many excuses the Lakers now trot out in the post game interviews. AD is out? So sad, Kyrie has yet to suit up for the Nets and they’re leading the eastern conference. The Warriors have yet to see Klay play and are similarly challenging for the best record in the west. New roster? Aw gee, the Bulls had the second most roster turnover to us and are a top team in the association. Injuries? You poor dears, look at Miami who has lost Bam, Butler and seen Duncan Robinson totally regress and is 4th in the east and have won over 60% of their games. Excuses are like the hole where the poop falls out boys and I’ve had enough of yours. Throw your little pity party at home and show up to work for crying out loud. We all have been during the pandemic, your lofty job title of NBA player doesn’t exclude you from trying hard.

    Last night marked the first time this season in which a streak of either kind has moved beyond the 3 game mark. We have yet to win more than 3 games in a row and are now facing the quite likely prospect of hitting a 5 game losing streak as early as tomorrow. While I do think the Lakers have the personnel in-house and on-team to win it all I also question their ability to grow together. I blame that on the front office and the coaching staff. We aren’t using the pieces we have very well and the front office has consistently taken the best tools away from it’s coach and drifted further and further away from the blueprint that won it all. So, if anyone truly needs to step up it’s Frank and his staff who really need to figure out how to unlock the mystery and secret of the three point shot. We have too many guys who were specifically brought in to use that tool for it to be as useless as it is for us. Rob will, likely, have to wait until the summer to redeem himself. Westbrook is nigh impossible to move midseason as he is not on Philly’s list of desired talent in a Ben Simmons trade and Russ’ deal becomes an expiring one once the season ends.

    Last thing, if you’re having a sense of deja vu it’s understandable as the Spurs beat us at the Forum’s final game, too. Only difference was that was in the playoffs. The bright side was we subsequently went on to win the NBA Finals in year 1 of STAPLES so here’s hoping the name change has been weighing on the team and once they play in The Crypt the effort, heart and execution follow. If not this season is doomed.

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    • While excuses are frowned on in sports, the Spurs bench outscored our bench by 49 points. Our bench consisted of Rondo and DJ, both had fallen out of the rotation before the outbreak. Two 10 day contracts, two G leaguers and Melo, who didn’t have a good game. This was the 2nd game in a row where we played a healthy team with their entire roster available. The Lakers are living in that Covid grey area where they don’t have enough players out to have games canceled but not enough players available to field a cohesive unit. This is really unfair to several teams, not just the Lakers.

      • Maybe, I guess, but it seems like this team has a ready made excuse for every bump in the road. Slow start? We’ll, we’re a whole new group of guys! (so are the Bulls). Russ and AD can’t beat teams like the Magic, Thunder or Rockets? Oh, we’ll, we don’t have LeBron (Kyrie yet to play , Nets up at the top all season long with a harder strength of sched). Lose to the Spurs by 18? This team hasn’t played together

        • there’s an excuse for everything and eventually that just might be all that there is.

          • I’m not saying there aren’t plenty of excuses, there are. But it’s not like this hasn’t happened to other teams and the truth is the league has changed the rules in this mid season. If all the teams our is whining the loudest about it, which has been one of the few consistent things about this season is the litany if reasons why it’s not working but insisting it will. So, when it does start working, we all just have to hope there’s enough season to fight into 6th or higher place and make a respectable playoff run. Plenty of reasons why things can go south, I’m curious about what it is that will help this team rise above all the excuses.

    • Two things troubled me about this game. The 56% free throw shooting and the paltry 6 forced turnovers. That stuff ain’t got nuthin to with injuries & covid.

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    I cannot get behind any trade for a player who has yet to play. It lacks due diligence, relies in heresay and the word of an agent who’s goal is not to help the Lakers win but to make sure their clients continue to get paid. So, if Simmons plays and shows off all his marvelous work he put into his game since last season’s playoff exit I might be convinced. Might. But if he’s the same no-shooting, here one day gone the next dude I’ve been watching thanks but no freaking thanks. Also, for me, the mental illness issue has not been properly addressed. Either he’s a quitter and has bailed on his team like that merc Kawhi L or he actually needs to address something that doesn’t allow him to play. Moving teams does not cure that. That takes something called time and work, something I’m sure the staff in Philly can handle. But don’t belittle or demean people who truly suffer from a debilitating illness of the mind just because you’re a drama Queen!and weak if spirit. Get help or own up.

    If he shows he can play…maybe

    I cannot get behind any trade for a player who has yet to play. It lacks due diligence, relies in heresay and the word of an agent who’s goal is not to help the Lakers win but to make sure their clients continue to get paid. So, if Simmons plays and shows off all his marvelous work he put into his game since last season’s playoff exit I might be convinced. Might. But if he’s the same no-shooting, here one day gone the next dude I’ve been watching thanks but no freaking thanks. Also, for me, the mental illness issue has not been properly addressed. Either he’s a quitter and has bailed on his team like that merc Kawhi L or he actually needs to address something that doesn’t allow him to play. Moving teams does not cure that. That takes something called time and work, something I’m sure the staff in Philly can handle. But don’t belittle or demean people who truly suffer from a debilitating illness of the mind just because you’re a drama Queen!and weak if spirit. Get help or own up.

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    • Obviously the above is in regards to any and all Ben Simmons trade notions.

      • The problem is you’re assuming everything that has happened is due to Ben Simmon’s mental problems. Much of what has gone on has been part of Rich Paul’s efforts to move Ben to antother team where he could be successful.

        All I would say is there is no way the Lakers would be discussing trading for Simmons were they not confident that he was mentally well and would be ready to play for the Lakers.

        And there’s no team or other NBA players who would have a better handle on where Ben was at than Rich Paul and LeBron James and Anthony Davis.

        Don’t know why you have such a hard time understanding that. Do you really think the Lakers would be trying to trade for him if they didn’t have inside info? SMH.

        Finally, dubbing a player as a quitter is exactly the kind of assumptions none of us should make about a player. It’s exactly those kind of accusations that show a lack of appreciation for the seriousness of mental health. I’m sure that’s not what you meant to do but we all should be careful not to throw stones when we live in the same glass houses.

        I also do not agree with your characterization of Rich Paul. Getting AD to the Lakers was a huge move in AD’s career. Finding the right landing spot for Ben Simmons is his job and the Lakers could be that spot where Ben can redeem his career and legacy as a member of the Lakers. Rich is doing what he can to help Ben like he did Anthony.

        • I didn’t like how AD handled his business leaving NOLA, either. The fact that you’re equating moving teams…while under contract and getting paid by said team…to improving someone’s mental health is a huge issue to me. Moving to the Lakers isn’t the thing that solves a mental disability, dude. That takes work with a professional , something I’m certain any team in the NBA has the resources to properly address. It’s bad enough when players basically fake major injury to get moved but now we’re going to let them say they have an undisclosed and can ONLY be aided by going to the Lakers kind of mental thing? That. Is. Absurd. It’s a slight against those who actually do suffer from ailments of the brain, like I said but you keep flossing over because if your trade machine infatuation. Look it’s really quite simple: if mentally ill the Lakers are truly the last team he should come to. The pressure is far higher, the critiques far harsher here. He should, in fact, get well before he takes the court. But, if he really isn’t mentally disabled and is using it as an excuse I truly don’t want someone willing to stoop to that level in my favorite team. In fact I would no teambtakes him and forces him to face the music in Philly. So, like the title of the post says. If we see him play…maybe then.

        • I’m assuming Ben Simmons is faking something serious because otherwise he wouldn’t be getting paid. It’s in the CBA clause that you cannot withhold pay due to issues if a mental nature or physical injury. Obviously his body is right and he’s not hurt. This we have the manufactured BS that is getting off easy, in my opinion. Whatever the case may be I wouldn’t sign off on a trade for a player who hasn’t shown he can play. Whomever it is.

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