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Any chance the Bulls jump at Westbrook and FRP for Ball and DeRozan? I don’t think so but the Lakers need to either get creative or shut the rumor mill down publicly. Nobody will believe them if they say “we’re keeping Russ the whole season!” and, while that may be a possibility, it shouldn’t be the goal to let Russ expire as it does limit trades we can make.
However it does open up the door for S&Ts next summer. FRP and a TPE aren’t the worst things you can get for a player who is already out the door. Problem will become the hard cap but, since we don’t have anyone’s Bird Rights to worry about and Jeannie hates over-spending it’s not the end of the world.
Still a lot of ways this can go down as a positive for the Lakers. The first 20 games still might pretty much doom the season, though. That’s a brutal stretch.
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This becoming less about “am I a fan of the team” which I am and will be forever. It’s now entered “is this worth my personal financial commitment to have access to every game?” Territory. I enjoy watching LeBron play. No doubt. LeBron ain’t Kobe. I don’t feel anywhere near the same connection to The King than I did the Black Mamba. Shelling out a Benjamin a month loses its appeal when you think those running the team are more interested in their bottom line than in being competitive. I can forgive a bad decision or two in the course of free agency. But for cheapness to be the driving factor while expecting your fans to shell out top dollar just to support the brand is precisely where I draw the line. A sucker may be born every minute but that doesn’t mean I need to willfully join the club. If the Lakers are blowing and everyone is towing the company line again expect a fan revolt. Because the fans deserve better than poorly assembled teams and bad spending choices season after season.
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Nobody’s giving up their cable subscription as long as LeBron & AD are still on the floor. I’m as frustrated as anyone but we’ve been through worse in very recent history. Like when we were actively tanking for draft picks. That was far more painful and insulting. We make the playoffs last season if not for all the injuries.
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I’m just having a hard time seeing what the current intelligence is behind the process. Feels as much about taking care of Klutch guys as it does fielding a competitive team. I’m certainly not canceling anything anytime soon. But, being an Angel fan, I can see the signs of “we got some talent, c’mon down to the ballpark..but we don’t mind losing an neither should you!” showing now. Willfully tanking was bad but I always felt like it came from a well-intentioned place. Granted Jim was an even worse evaluator of talent than Rob is. I always rooted for Mitch but I think his heart wasn’t in it anymore by the end. Not sure it’s there now seeing some of the deals he’s making. Anyhow, since we won everything feels like brand management, keeping Klutch happy and making sure LeBron is wearing a Laker jersey when he breaks this or that record. It’s not compelling.
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Honestly I don’t know what this means. Another spotty outside shooter who was only OK at ball distribution. It’s like we took Frank’s team away from him, fired him, and now we’re bringing it back again. I suppose it could portend a Russ trade but we’ll have to waive someone to do it. If it’s the roster being done I would have preferred bringing back Melo.
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Honestly, this is kind of pissing me off. Could have gotten a TPE for the guy but now we’re doubling down after we threw away a draft pick to get him from OKC. It’s asinine and silly.
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Jeannie is helping bring Women Of Wrestling!!! Now I better understand why we traded for Patrick.
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“Russell Westbrook is not a buyout guy,” she said during a recent podcast appearance. “You have to agree to a buyout, and that’s not how he is wired. This is a guy who is very proud, and if you accept a buyout once in your career, you’re seen differently throughout the rest of your career.”
Shelburne continued to explain why Westbrook wouldn’t accept a buyout.
“Russ is Russ because of his swagger and the way he bleeds with it, the way he plays with it,” she said. “You can’t retreat from that. You can’t let go of that because that’s what made Russ, Russ — it’s his swagger. If he accepts that, then he’s no longer Russell Westbrook.”
If she’s right, and it’s hard to disagree with her logic, that all but sinks just about any Westbrook trade now and likely the whole season. It would mean team X WANTS Russ on the team, not just for his cap clearing expiring deal but to show up for the remainder of the season and play. Someone show me that list, lol.
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Sounds like we should all get used to this: James, Westbrook, Davis, Beverley, Lonnie Walker IV, Kendrick Nunn, Damian Jones, Wenyen Gabriel, Thomas Bryant, Troy Brown Jr., Juan Toscano-Anderson, Austin Reaves, Max Christie, Jay Huff, Fabian White Jr. and Javante McCoy.
Cole Swider and Scotty Pippen Jr. are on two-way contracts
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Been saying this since Russ coming here became a possibility; hell, since Lebron became a possibility…you can’t bring in dudes on this level expecting them to be anything other than what’s made them into dudes on this level. Lebron was never gonna mentor a buncha young dudes…he was gonna get them da fuqq up outta here for some dudes he could win with right now. Aint his job to worry about the future. Russ wasn’t gonna come here and be anything except RUSS. Full on, hair on fire, 100 mph. Good or Bad. And Frankie for damn sure wasn’t gonna be the coach who had the gravitas to change him. D.Ham seems to think he can do it but that’s probably a mistake as well. If you’re keeping him then you gotta accept him doing RUSS things and go from there. If he stays then it’ll luckily only be a one year experiment.
I could actually see him retiring at the end of this deal instead of changing. Just a different cat and that’s what made him a HOFer.
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Yup. Spot on regarding the way these dudes are wired. Phil Jackson could maybe kinda sorta not really get that level of talent to buy in. None of these coaches are Phil. Rob ain’t Jerry West. And so on.
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100%. I’m also not sure that LBJ is the same type of leader as MJ & Kobe from a personality standpoint. I think he’s a lil bit more passive/aggressive and not so much of a get in your face & cuss you out type of dude. Uses social media & traditional media too much to get his message across.
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Ainge wants a first rounder each for Clarkson, Bojan, and Malik. Dude is off his rocker. You fleeced Minny, got a solid young piece in Sexton. Be content w/multiple second rounders or highly protected 1st rounders for role-players. Hilarious. IMO Rob has been smart not to trash the future for role-players. This whole “any trade at all needs first round draft picks to happen” will kill the trade market. Look at OKC, for example, everyone holds them up as some shining star of rebuilding geniusness all while they are stuck in a rebuild with no clear path out. Shai won’t stay, either gets traded or walks in free agency. You can’t trade for star talent without young talent but also don’t draft your way into a banner. You augment your team through the draft, maybe groom an alpha alongside someone aging out of it (but when has that really ever worked?). NBA free agency, like California real estate, is broken right now. Lakers might be doing the exact right thing by not over-paying now and betting that the whole “destination franchise” makes us attractive to the best free agents.
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At this point it should come as no surprise that of all our “getting paid more than $30 million” players only Russell Westbrook showed up for Patrick Beverly’s introductory news conference. With a crisp high five and bro hug on camera the pair exchanged their first public display of camaraderie. Listen to Pat and he thinks it can work because they both shoot well from different sides of the floor. At any rate, the fact that Russ continued his summer long pattern of being the only max contract Laker to show up for team-related activities speaks volumes.
To me that says “nothing imminent” and while LT will likely decry these and other moments this summer as smoke screens and posturing at some point either happens or it won’t. I’ve detailed, numerous times and in numerous ways, why I don’t think a trade for Russ is likely before Feb but today’s news conference all but sealed it for me. You have to imagine that Rob keeps Russ abreast of the general situation, that if the Lakers we’re going to change their stance from last February regarding sending out both picks they wouldn’t have waited this long. Russ and Pat exchanging ‘how ya doin?’ pleasantries is a pretty clear indicator neither of them expect anything to happen.
Teams are filling out roster spots with the scrap heap players, some of whom we know well. Still a couple weeks left but I really don’t see a trade happening once camp starts. Barring an obvious gift from the basketball gods trade I don’t see anything happening until the deadline. With every actual
Piece of news or quote from someone on the team that conclusion becomes borderline inevitable.Does that make me happy? I’m still working through that. Russ was bad last season, Rob’s GMing was arguably worse and we had about zero luck on the health front. Rob is still crapping it up as a GM, in my opinion. If keeping Russ was a remote possibility Rob needed to bring in better shooters and defensive specialists than LW4 for the MLE and should have drafted the best defender possible with the 2nd rounder we bought. Swapping THT for Pat Bev currently ranks as Rob’s best trade to date. That’s scary. To me, anyhow. So, while I just don’t see Rob sending out both picks for the deals on the table, I do see him making his first in-season trade by Feb. The only thing that can stop that is Russ playing well which I think all of us have a hard time seeing.
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I’ll give the Lakers front office strategy team and PR department credit for a great campaign to convince Jamie Sweet and other team’s general managers that Russell Westbrook will be on the roster opening day.
Of course, none of the other teams’ GM’s believe that so it’s only Jamie hoping that no trade shows up on Twitter. I still believe this is all posturing and there is no intent by the Lakers to bring Russ back this season. They just want to take the high road when it comes to Russ at this point. But they definitely want to move on.
What I still don’t understand is why the Lakers would want to wait to trade Russ midseason considering all the chaos that bringing him back could cause as well as the difficulty of integrating new key personnel at the halfway point of the season.
You’re betting the start of the season on there being some magical deal at the deadline when you should be making the trade offseason and building and developing a winner that will be ready to make noise come the playoffs.
In the end, this could be all about keeping one of the picks, which would be crazy and not something I think LeBron would have approved. This all has to be posturing. Otherwise, none of it makes sense and the Lakers are doomed.
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i posted straight math on this, the Lakets can keep both picks at the deadline I’d wager. He’ll have about 12 mil left on his deal bu yhe deadline, when he signs for a vet min that means around 9 mil is the buyout price. We become the ine doing someone a favor and depending on how things shake out that team could be bot the three we’re relegated tondealing with now
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To this day I am often still amazed we got anything of worth for Lonzo Ball. Dude just can’t stay healthy with that left knee. Out for an extended period of time, again.
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Spyda going to Cleveland, doesn’t sound like the Lakers are involved.
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Nope. Not involved. So that all but wipes the Knicks off the board, hard to see them doing a trade with us straight up as they’ve said they’re not interested in Russ since March. Indy and Utah for the dregs is about all that’s left. Neither trade worth 2 draft picks, both teams likely to insist on both to get it done. Who blinks?
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I think the Pacers will hold firm now that the Knicks are out of the picture. But will Ainge? With 8 fresh first rounders in his pocket will he turn to dumping salary? Generally salary dumps do not bring back that much in the way of assets. It will be interesting to see how he moves forward. This team is still good enough to win enough games to keep him out of a high draft pick barring a very lucky ping pong ball bounce. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. I think perhaps the first team to Agee to one pick would get the deal.
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I agree, but Danny is in full OKC mode right now. I’m sure a Conley/Clarkson/Gay for Russ and a pick entices Utah but no way I pull that trigger if I’m Rob. Wipes out all your space next summer and those are all old dues, except maybe JC.
Now…would you do that straight up? No picks? That’s a little different because then you can attach a pick and have one left over to move one or more of those guys. Clarkson could slot in as your starting 2. Conley start or backup Bev or rehab a sure-to-come soon injury fo one kind or another. Gay has been solid for years in the right scheme.
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Ominous news on the Kenrdick Nunn, if you can call it news. Evidently there have been setbacks as he ramps up for full 5-on-5 play, which he has yet to be cleared for. This is coming up on 2 years and now passing beyond bone bruise territory in my completely non-medical opinion. Something more than watching and waiting ought to be happening but there’s not much coming out of the team except for PR and hogwash these days. If he can’t go by camp we may need to seek the injured player exception and shut him down now, we need assets that contribute. He hasn’t been that at all.
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Looks like the Nets were able to get Durant to back off his self-created cliff. Smart move on both sides, they weren’t going to get a better player or the draft haul they wanted. Will this ease the logjam? I’m not so sure. Mitchell hasn’t asked out and that roster in Utah is actually competitive as-is, easily as competitive as us. Indy won’t be taking a pick and pick swap since the Lakers are essentially out of moves.
Time for the Lakers to start mending their own fractures with Russ unless Rob is given the green light to overpay for two decent to above average role-players. Otherwise we’ll be in a worse situation with the Nets. Since I don’t see either Indy or the Lakers finding a middle ground here the time for a Kumbaya moment has now arrived.
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Watching all these website close tents on the Kyrie Irving to LA story is kinda funny. Things are written like “Nets are being stubborn” and “the Lakers have other options besides Brooklyn” all sound cute but totally obfuscate the truth that the Lakers have scraps to offer. Russ will be cheaper to buy out in a few months, our role players either didn’t play last season or shouldn’t have, and the picks are few and far away. Rob is, frankly, completely out of his depth. Far from a master class in team building but rather a lesson on how to look desperate while actually also being quite desperate. Honestly, the Lakers are lucky LeBron has non-basketball reasons to stay. I have no doubt that for all the favors Rob has done Klutch as GM if the team were to lose LeBron suddenly Anthony Davis, and any other Klutch Klient, would suddenly develop a strong and persistent opinion that they should be playing somewhere else. Rob has one move to make and it’s hard to not think he’s still, somehow, blowing it. If (which basically means when now) Russ starts the season in a Laker uni, Rob might be fired before camp concludes. Why? Because we will not be a good team. We might be worse than last season or marginally better, but not good. More likely is he gets you sit in His chair until closer to the end of next season but you never know. Anyhow, we got LeBron and AD so if we don’t bring back players on multi year deals for Russ we’ll be in decent shape next summer. One wonders if it will be Rob’s hand guiding the ship or maybe someone else?
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I don’t think that’s gonna happen. Jeannie gripes about vet minimum guys who didn’t play. Russ makes a little more money than that. I’ve seen that theory a lot but there’s no way they can hope to trade him if he doesn’t play. There’s no way Jeannie signs off on paying him to stay home. Coach Ham came into this eyes wide open, it’s why they asked the coach how they’d use Russ. He’ll play. He might get benched and gripe or whatever but he’ll be on the active roster and playing some sort of role.
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I agree 100% with Stan. If Russ is not gone, he should just be sent home. Don’t let him take away minutes from guys who deserve it and poison the team.
In the end, the Lakers need what they can get from Russ so badly that they can’t wait for the trade deadline. He will be moved before training camp. Count on it. Take it to the bank. Guaranteed.
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Tom you act as if they didn’t proposition each and every coaching candidate what they would do with Russ, that Jeannie didn’t gripe about paying Jared Dudley a vet minimum to barely play, and that Rob hasn’t raided the future to build mediocre teams for the last 2 seasons. LeBron has/had few options. Ride out his old deal, hope he doesn’t get hurt, and test the free agent market as 39 year old or take max money and preserve his option to bail the year his son could come into the league. That deal doesn’t exist anywhere else. Him coming back was etched in stone.
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LOL. They asked him because it get a of people, including you, to buy the story that they were going to keep him if they didn’t get an offer they like. It’s also a good question to see what the coach candidates would come up with. It’s been all just a big PR move from Day 1. From his exit interview, it was obvious Russell Westbrook would never wear purple and gold again.
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Also…who on this roster deserves Russ’s minutes?! We got cast offs and non-shooters up and down the roster. Russ is better than 3/4s if the dudes in the team right now. Lol…
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I agree Jamie, if Russ can cut back on the bone head stuff, all he needs to be is respectable. I with you, I really don’t see a trade until later in the year. And I read a article. And apparently LeBron understands that there may not be any trades until later in the year. I’m in no hurry for a Pacer trade. There is a reason Buddy comes off the bench. All he can do at a high level is shoot. And Turner’s an upgrade but not a huge up grade. The Pacer trade doesn’t get us into the top 4 in the west unless some the others take big steps forward. I’m interested in seeing what Thomas Bryant looks like. His star was rising before the injuries. The only reason he is on the team is because of the injuries. If healthy he runs the floor better then Turner and is a much better defender and 3 point shooter. If he is back in form, he will be as big of a steal as Malik was last year.
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Excellent fiver, Jamie.
1. LeBron and the Lakers partnership. I think you hit the nail on the head. Personally, I applaud LeBron for tempering his desire to win and become the GOAT, he’s always shown a respect for life-work balance. I respect and appreciate that about him. He’s as good a man as basketball player.
2. What does the extension mean for Lakers? I’m more sanguine about the Lakers extending LeBron. What it means to me is LeBron is buying exactly what the Lakers are selling, that they are the destination for the league’s legends. Magic, Kobe, Kareem, Shaq, Wilt, Logo, Baylor, Big James, Wilkes. Lakers making an investment in their brand as home of the greats.
3. LeBron’s expectations. If we’re to believe the scuttlebutt, the Nets now want a win-now player along with draft capital and the Pacers have a minimum price of two first round picks for Turner and Hield. No way in my mind that the Lakers do not trade Russ before camp. Deals will be there. Goal should be Kyrie and Myles. That’s what the Lakers need to get for Russ, Nunn, and 2 unprotected picks.
4. I sure hope you’re wrong about the Lakers keeping Russ. Frankly, if they do keep him, that should be the final straw in firing Rob Pelinka. Turning down a chance to move Russ or get Kyrie or get Turner and Hield to save a pick 7 years from now would be criminally negligent behavior by Rob Pelinka.
5. The first big move was hiring Darvin Ham. The second big move was extending LeBron James. The third big move will be trading Russell Westbrook.
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Nets can’t trade Kyrie until they resolve Durant. It’s not the Lakers timeline. They’re going to be the kid waiting to get picked last. Hence it will be in-season. Maybe not February although that feels the most likely. Also don’t think they’ll cough up 2 picks for Turner and Buddy. Seems like if they were they would have.
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Great fiver, Jamie. We’ve heard this same story before every season since AD arrived. He’s looking great physically and seems primed to have a great season. The Lakers offense should run through him. But what does that really mean.
Ironically, I’m in the middle of writing my version of that same article so great minds think alike. Main difference is I’m assuming Russ is traded. Bottom line, I agree. AD is the Crux. We’re a long shot to win a championship this season but our only realistic shot is if Anthony Davis shows that he can play the entire season like he played in the bubble to win the championship. AD must show he is top-5 player.
The Lakers seem to have adopted the approach of revamping the entire roster every season. The result has been a dreadful lack of continuity and growth. And yes, we’ve also made moves each season to try and reduce LeBron’s workload by bringing in point guards, a move we’re looking to do again this summer. Schroeder didn’t work. Westbrook didn’t work. Who’s got next? Kyrie? Your question is spot on. What’s changed now to make AD work.
1. I agree we will see AD sprinting down the court, especially if he plays the three on defense, where he will be guarding players out to the 3-point line. In Ham’s offense, first player down the court takes the dunker spot. That’s going to be AD. Look for a lot of early long passes to AD, which is a Lakers staple that will work perfectly in Darvin Ham’s 4-out offense.
2. Anthony Davis, 3-point marksman. You’re right, the stats aren’t promising that AD can be a plus 3-point shooter. In fact, the bubble playoffs were the outlier to the rest of his career. As a Laker, AD has shot 33%, 26%, and 19% from three. And the best he’s ever shot is 34%. On the flip side, he did shoot 38.3% in the bubble while also shooting 60% on 2-point shots. He also is an 83% free throw shooter in the playoffs. So bottom line, the potential is there but AD is going to have to prove he can shoot a good percentage from deep. It will be key to his success. It was his outside shooting that was the difference maker in his game in the bubble.
3. AD’s shot chart. One of the things you must consider is how Darvin Ham’s 4-out offense works. First guy down the court takes the dunker spot. Next two take the corners, putting first three players down the court all on the baseline. The key players in this offense are the two players on the left and right wing. The Bucks switched from 5-out to 4-out to create more space for the two players at the top of the key, who were usually Giannis and Khris. For the Lakers, I expect most of the time that those two players will be LeBron and AD. While there will be matchups where the Lakers will work the ball into the post for AD, most of the time he will have the ball behind the arc on the wing with loads of space to face up his defender and beat him off the dribble to get into the paint for an easy shot or assist.
4. Interior scoring focus. Assuming we get the shooters we need by trading Russ and THT, we’ll see the Lakers take a lot more threes because that’s how Ham wants to play. We’ll also see lot of midrange jumpers by LeBron and AD and lots of dunks from having a big in the dunker spot. We need shooters to make this work so that Russ and THT trades are critical but I think we will see an offense much more like the Bucks than the last three years of Lakers. Depending on whom we trade for, we could be a big bully team or an undersized team. One way or another, AD is going to put up a lot more shots and score more points than any of his first three seasons with the Lakers.
5. AD as point center. I agree not his strength but something he is going to have to do better if he’s going to get the ball so much because teams will try to force him to pass unless they have a defender who can handle him on-no-one. Here is where the spacing of Ham’s 4-out offense is going to be critical. The space between defenders in the 4-out is greater than the 5-out because there are only two players not on the baseline compared to three not on the baseline with 5-out sets. That means it’s hard for defenders to help and further to go to double.
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Thanks Tom, it’ll be interesting to see if/what moves Rob makes. I know you think a lot of this is all posturing and that both draft picks are all but ear-marked for trades but I’m not really so sure. At any rate, there hasn’t been any trade to date so since Russ and Kendrick are still on the team I’m not doing any kind of imagineering or stuff like that. Ham needs to work with what he’s got and so to do we. If that changes, so be it.
At any rate, as always, AD needs to play first and foremost. Any scheme involving him probably imagines that he’s not in street clothes. So his health and availability (as are all of our players) is a major key. His free throw shooting seems to come and go, which makes me think that’s as much an issue of focus and mental strength as his form and skill. I would say that 5 three point FGA/game would be the absolute ceiling. More of those just means we need elite rebounders to stop other teams from getting out on the break from us. I like him in the 3-4 range, which is his career average, and you see as well as I, he’s not an elite marksman from distance but he does do enough to keep his defender honest.
Since I don’t think Davis will be playing the three, especially since it pulls our best rebounder out of the rebounding area, I disagree with your notion of him being first out on the break. that’ll be James, Russ, Nunn, …THT…, and LW4. Guys who are truly fast or can get to spots at will through speed, strength and/or skill. I honestly don’t want AD playing defense on the perimeter, it takes away all of his strengths. Can he guard a smaller player on the perimeter? Sure, and we’ve seen Derek Fisher guard centers. Doesn’t make it a smart or good choice. Can and should are worlds apart. You want AD in or near the paint challenging shots at the rim, especially when you consider how much better at defense AD is than either Jones or Bryant. Even better when he’s at the as he is an elite help defender more than body up defender.
Since you keep bringing up trades that haven’t happened, I’ll bite. Don’t really see how we can trade THT and Russ, you’ll have to pick one. You could maybe get away with one draft pick in a trade for Talen but Russ, this summer, is going to take two to tango and once you do that you’re done. Pick swaps are cute but they are not driving forces in a trade, they can be the one thing that makes it feel like a “win” for one side or another when it’s really a lateral victory. “Oh, but we got a pick swap, OUR TEAM WON THE TRAD!!!!”. Russ at the deadline after the Lakers are on the book for the majority of his salary…different discussion. One gets it done mid-season, maybe even none for a team desperate enough at that time to unload salary (like Brooklyn could be if they try and shoehorn Durant into the season and it utterly blows up in their faces). Including THT with Russ just means more money for some team to pay taxes on. Not happening.
At any rate, I think the main thing about running the offense through Davis is him actually being on the court to do that. So here’s hopinh he plays in close to 82 games.
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Nice Jamie, it is refreshing to have something other then rehashing the same trade proposals over and over. As for AD, I want to see him scoring inside as much as possible. With his skill set, that’s were he thrives. At times he is unstoppable. One just has to look at the 76er game last year, where he destroyed Embid a 3 time all nba defender, with points around the rim and short jumpers. If he proves he can become a plus 3 point shooter, great, you can adjust but the plan going into the season, trade or no trade has to feature AD inside, or you are totally wasting one of the very best interior scorers in the game today. I’m
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Thanks, Jamie. I think we both agree that AD is the key. He has to be healthy and the player we had in the bubble or we can’t win. And LeBron has to stay healthy and play great too. Oh, and we have to move Russ or we will be a play-in team.
I think the Lakers have multiple options to trade Russ and THT. If we trade with the Nets, I think it will be those two plus two picks for Kyrie and Joe. I think we can get Turner and Hield with one pick and one swap, leaving a pick to juice THT. Truth is both Russ and Talen need sweeteners.
We may have another month to wait. Hope we’ll all be pleased rather than disappointed when this is all over. I feel 40% Kyrie/40% Myles and Buddy/10% another Russ trade/10% we keep him but bench him.
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Great fiver, Jamie. How funny that the two of us end the offseason hoping for the same trade. Only need to give them one pick swap. Pick swaps are almost as good as picks as they guarantee that you will get a chance to swap and the date far enough away that the pick becomes another commodity to be traded several times before being used.
I have probably written over a dozen long articles trying to get Myles Turner on the Lakers over the past 5 years. The thought that it might actually happen scares me it’s taking so long I might not still be around when they finally announce it. A Turner, Davis, James front court will dominate. I love Kyrie but Turner and Hield are the right ticket this time around. Just don’t let pipe dreams of Kyrie screw this up.
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While funny I think the one thing we probably still differ on is the timing of this happening. I think the Pacers hold the line on their “two 1st rounders” demand until after the season starts. The reason being is that they aren’t really in a rush to get a deal for Russ done, especially if the plan is to turn around and buy him out. The Russ deal has been on and will be on the table for awhile now and continue to be for as long as it takes to actually get done.
That’s why I predict in the article that your dream of an in-season trade will at long last come to fruition as I think the Pacers will go f or just the one draft pick when the buyout cost drops as the season rolls along. They don’t need to trade either player as they have the luxury of time. Russ will be the most valuable he can possibly be the last day of trading, the Lakers will have footed the bill for his salary up until that point and a buy out will be reduced significantly for the team bringing him in while still getting all the benefits of his expiring salary.
Lakers are the ones in a rush. Nobody else is. It’s why the Nets trade will continue to get floated simply because it has more of a deadline than any other deal the Lakers might want to swing. Nets are probably in a little less of a rush than the Lakers but it’s minute.
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I think training camp will be the deadline for the Lakers making moves. I would not be surprised to see the Lakers re-engage the Pacers. Russ plus 2027 pick and 2026 pick swap for Turner and Hield. That would allow us to then trade THT and the 2029 pick for a Beverley or Washington.
PG: NUNN, Reaves, Christie
SG: HIELD, Walker,
SF: DAVIS, Brown, Toscano-Anderson
PF: JAMES, Washington, Johnson, Gabriel
CE: TURNER, Bryant, JonesTW: Swider, Pippin
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There was never going to be a Pacers trade as long as Kyrie was still a possibility. Right now, KD and Kyrie seem to have no problem playing together and Kyrie has no problem playing in Brooklyn.
That means Kyrie is staying in Brooklyn no matter whether KD is traded or stays. That ends the Lakers desire or need to trade with the Nets. I would also say it dims the chance of signing Kyrie next summer too.
With no Kyrie, the Pacers are next. We both think a pick swap will work as it’s as good as having the Lakers pick for that year. Yet, LAL keep one pick to use to sweeten THT trade for an important player, maybe Beverley or Washington.
With no shot a Kyrie, Lakers will be ready to move quickly as will the Pacers. I expect Tsai to say the Nets will double their efforts to trade KD and that could happen in a week. Once that chip falls, Lakers will move to close deal for Turner and Hield and maybe Beverley to give Ham the attack dog point guard he wants on defense. Beverley, Hield, Davis, James, and Turner would be one hell of a defensive team.
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What you need to understand is the Lakers can NOT keep Russ all year as that would mean his $47 million contract would expire and the Lakers would only have LeBron and AD to match salaries since everybody else would be free agents. He has to be traded at the deadline for contracts that can be aggregated in a trade along with draft picks, Lakers have to decide to go for free agents or trade targets by deadline. Then collect expiring or Lt deals. Can’t do both.