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    KD demanding the Nets get rid of Nash and Marks! Oh man…you can’t make this crap up. Kyrie not playing? No problem, but THESE TWO GUYS GOTTA GO!!!

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    LOL!!!

    KD demanding the Nets get rid of Nash and Marks! Oh man…you can’t make this crap up. Kyrie not playing? No problem, but THESE TWO GUYS GOTTA GO!!!

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    • Pertinent info:

      -Nash has 2 years remaining on his coaching deal. Earlier in the summer the Nets publicly backed him and said they had no interest in a coaching change.
      -Evidently reports from back in April that signalled Marks had signed an extension aren’t really verififable… So not sure if he’s going to stick around.
      -One has to wonder why KD didn’t make this plain months ago, you know, so the Nets could decide if they wanted to change 2 massive aspects of their business or not?
      -remember when people feared the Nets? That was like fearing a balloon that’s already popped lol. Whatta joke…

      My prediction: Nets keep Irving and KD together. Best way to keep Durant happy, they can address Irving next summer or, if it’s not working/he’s not playing, at the deadline. Marks may or may not have much time left on his deal and likely is over this debacle anyhow and they have time to replace Nash before the season. Tsai caves to KD’s whims and cans ’em both. They hire Stotts or D’Antoni. Ironic as all get out if it’s #2.

      The Kyrie Irving trade that was never to be is dead, my friends.

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    He hired a new agent. It’s Jeff Schwartz.

    Westbrook news!!!!

    He hired a new agent. It’s Jeff Schwartz.

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    Dude is auctioning off his championship rings to help Ukraine (his home country). All the BS flying around these days, figured it’d be nice to hear something:

    A) Real.
    B) Interesting.
    C) Uplifting. Nice to see an ex-Laker having an impact.

    FWIW he keeps in touch with Mad Dog Madson and Luke Walton. Good stuff. Also, the Lakers sent him sports equipment to help rebuild gyms and sport complexes destroyed in Russian air strikes. Good stuff.

    https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34289954/former-los-angeles-lakers-player-slava-medvedenko-auctions-nba-title-rings-native-ukraine

    Gotta love Slava

    Dude is auctioning off his championship rings to help Ukraine (his home country). All the BS flying around these days, figured it’d be nice to hear something:

    A) Real.
    B) Interesting.
    C) Uplifting. Nice to see an ex-Laker having an impact.

    FWIW he keeps in touch with Mad Dog Madson and Luke Walton. Good stuff. Also, the Lakers sent him sports equipment to help rebuild gyms and sport complexes destroyed in Russian air strikes. Good stuff.

    https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34289954/former-los-angeles-lakers-player-slava-medvedenko-auctions-nba-title-rings-native-ukraine

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    5 Things: The Waiting is the Hardest Part

    We are at the point in the offseason where summer league is done and teams are, well, they’re all just sitting there. Most player movement and big deals happen up to or during summer league. Not a hard rule and of course trades or signings are likely to continue all the way until camp starts but the generally the big splashes and names have already been handled at this point. Not this season. Since Mongo said he was going fishing we’re going with that theme for this 5er.

    1. Seismic shifts making waves. I wrote at the beginning of the Lakers summer while the playoffs were all but done (maybe just after, hard to recall…) that it would take some seismic shifts in the NBA to shake a Russell Westbrook trade loose. Well, that happened alright. After Kyrie opted into his deal everyone thought the Nets were set to start building out the roster-oh wait Kevin Durant asked for a trade. Boom. Then the Jazz traded Gobert to Minny for a King’s ransom. Blammo. Then they put Donovan Mitchell sorta kinda maybe on the trading block for a double King’s ransom. Kablooey. Those were the kinds of things I thought would have to happen for a Russ trade to have a sliver of hope.
    2. Bait’s in the water but nothing’s biting. Durant is till a Net. So is Kyrie. Mitchell’s market is robust but the ask is pretty danged high (as it should be a star on the rise who is only 25). All these bombs dropped but very little shook loose. In fact the opposite happened, everything kind of just froze up and locked in place. Utah is asking for 7 (!) first round draft picks for Spyda. The Nets want a Gobert-esque haul for KD. They’re holding out hope of squeezing two 1st rounders from LA to lose Kyrie…maybe…or they want to keep him, hard to tell. Teams around the league have started filling out the back end of their rosters, except the Spurs who can afford to wait. There are a grip of un-signed free agents of impact and with summer league over there will likely be a lull of a couple weeks before things maybe heat up again prior to camp starting.
    3. Big Fish still out there. Russell is still a Laker. Listen to Darvin Ham and he seems intent on making it work. Like many of the Laker statements these days that should come with a “well what else is he supposed to say?” caveat. Darvin will have to make it work with whatever roster he inherits from Rob. The Lakers though are seemingly polarized into inaction by caution. Is LeBron going to sign that extension on 8/4? That’s the Big Fish question and everything is dictated by how that breaks. Personally I actually don’t see any big moves happening until that day because it is at that time LeBron can comment on what he wants in order to make that happen. That’s 22 days away. Time enough for executives to go on vacation and come back. Camp starts in September-ish, between LeBron’s date and then there will be time enough to get a deal done, should a deal be found.
    4. Cut bait and run? What are the 2027 and 2029 Laker 1st round draft picks truly worth? Remember they’re not the only picks we have access to, the other ones just can’t be traded until draft night of their respective summers. Or, crazy idea here, we could actually pick some young players with them! Regardless the Lakers will actually have one of either next or the following summer’s draft pick (based on what NOLA does). Get into it here. So, knowing that there will be pathways forward to draft young talent it’s curious to see the Lakers hold the line so staunchly regarding those 2 picks. There are two theories I have: one the Lakers realize how they have frittered away draft assets in pursuit of ill-fitting veterans and have chosen to stop doing that, Jeannie has clipped Rob’ wings a little bit…at least for now until we hear from The King. My guess is the second one. I think, for good or ill, Jeannie is asserting herself a little more. I don’t think the Lakers will trade those away without a firm commitment from LeBron. That’s smart, in my opinion. Everyone is saying all sorts of nice things but we’re talking about the same guy that left Cleveland in spectacular fashion on live TV, Miami without much notice and is now obligated to remain quiet until 8/4. This feels to many like a time to rush forward and do whatever one thinks may please LeBron. I am not one of those people. The Lakers have to do right by the Lakers and that means taking all the factors into consideration. LeBron is under contract next season and can sign an extension any time. He won’t demand a trade (or if so will look pretty silly doing so) and we won’t trade him (Jeannie has said as much up to this point saying even he doesn’t sign his extension they won’t consider trading him). James can’t say what he wants right now. So waiting is prudent if not really all that exciting.
    5. The one that got away? With the news that the Indy deal is “dead” some panic may begin to creep into those who see a trade of Westbrook as the only way forward. First off no deal is dead until the players on said team aren’t on the team, have no-trade clauses, or veto rights. So it’s just dead for the time being because everyone is moving on for a few weeks. LeBron’s date is the key to everything. It opens all the doors for what he might want in this moment, allows him to voice his opinion and provide the information the Lakers obviously feel like they need to move forward. Is that smart? I don’t know. I think that it would probably be better for the Lakers to trade Russ one way or the other, if they can, but I am also of the opinion that you can’t so heavily sabotage the future to do so. Yes, they’re only 2 draft picks but they’re likely to be decent as neither AD or LeBron are likely to be on the team by then. By that logic they’re the two most valuable for the Lakers. That they represent the best chances to rebuild prior to 2030. I have to applaud the Lakers stance tis summer as it’s one I’ve long wanted them to adopt: open for business but we’re not suckers and we don’t throw draft picks away like it’s a fire sale. Cost-controlled players who re top ten picks can be franchise altering. If you’re not getting back a sure-fire banner competing team for them you’re doing yourself wrong by tossing them away. Buddy Heild is not that player, nether is Myles Turner. Frankly, given the fact he’s only averaged 55 games/season for his career, neither is Kyrie Irving. There’s still plenty of time, as well. A lot could change internally for all parties involved. The Nets could decide running it back as-is is preferable. The Pacers seem to want both for two decent players but that doesn’t change the fact that one of those players is injury prone (Myles Turner who has played in fewer than 50 games the past two seasons) and a defensive sieve in Buddy. Sorry but that deal is just not worth both of those draft picks.

    In the end desperation is a bad look for anyone at the bargaining table. The Lakers have done a decent job of holding the line on what assets they have. That’s smart and a nice change to see happening after the last 3 summers where we threw good players at bad along with draft picks all in the name of silly tweaks to a roster that won it all. For all those moves we’ve made we basically have fewer draft picks and Russell Westbrook to show for it. That’s not really a track record of success. Where the Lakers do have a track record of success is in the draft and so I like that they are realizing where their strengths and weaknesses lie. That may not sync up with LeBron’s timeline. If so, so be it. That’s the nature of the NBA and LeBron will either be here or he won’t. One way or another the games will be played.

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    • Fabulous Fiver, Jamie. One of the best imo. Props also to Mongo for the fishing theme. Waiting is certainly the Hardest Part.

      1. Seismic shifts. I remember well your predicting that a possible seismic shift could shake up the Westbrook situation. You were certainly right so props. Good reminder that this is not our father’s NBA.

      Player empowerment is getting even more aggressive and is unlikely to change. The small market owners will try to put a lid on player empowerment but the players and big market owners are fine with the constant player movement.

      Truth is player empowerment is kind of like our climate crisis. Seismic shifts expected.

      2. Baits in the Water. Love the progression of the fishing theme.

      What’s added to the frustration is team’s not trusting giving up the barn for KD, thus he has become the road block for other moves. He could easily end up as a Net next season. My guess is Kyrie still gets traded to the Lakers as I don’t see Brooklyn or KD wanting to run it back with him.

      3. Big Fish Still Out There. The tension mounts.

      Could the Lakers end up catching nothing but a bottom feeding carp rather than the sleek starfish they’re seeking?

      I agree August 4th is a day where we could see some clarity. Could LeBron sign an extension? Or will he leave the Lakers hanging and say he will wait and see. That could change everything. Better subtitle might have been Storm Brewing.

      4. Cut Bait and Run. Good header but this is where you and I split.

      First, the idea the Lakers are giving up their only draft picks is BS. They have guaranteed pick every other year and have two future picks tied up with swaps that will come free. They only owe 1 pick from the AD deal.

      Second, the chances of LeBron and the Lakers separating at this point in miniscule. LeBron wants to be here. Who knows how many years he still has? He’s not at this age going to want to pick up stakes and move to another team.

      Third, I think there’s a third possibility for Jeanie’s position on picks, which is it’s part of PR campaign to make Lakers appear less desperate.

      5. The one that got away. Great ending subtitle. Pure genius.

      Hopefully, this won’t be our ending. Thought the topic would lead to discussion of not offering the second pick when we might have closed the deal for Kyrie or for the Pacers. I do agree the deal is not dead until the assets involved have been dealt.

      The picks are meaningless at this point. The Lakers or even the team you trade those picks to will never use them for players. Those picks will become a form of baseball’s own crypto currency as they’re traded numerous times.

      Arguing that using them for Turner and Hield would be shortsighted is silly. Holding onto the picks is the only way the Lakers could convince LeBron James to leave.

      • Great Post Jamie, you are spot on. There are a lot of dominos that have to fall before it’s the Lakers turn. I also like the Lakers approach. They haven’t caved in to Lebrons pressure and are trying to make the best possible deal. I’m with you on Turner and Buddy. I wouldn’t give up both firsts for them. Turner would be a marginal upgrade. Yes he is a good drop down defender and a great shot blocker, but he also is hunted on defense on the perimeter and while he can hit the 3 he is a below average 3 point shooter that I wouldn’t want taking a lot of them. And there is a reason Buddy was a bench player for a bad team. Shooting is the only thing he brings to the table.we could be a little better with them but not contender better. I think you only trade both firsts if it gives you a punchers chance at a title. A Kyrie trade may do that, especially if a healthy Harris were included but it still is risky if you don’t win it all. Kyrie has left a bad taste in every team he’s ever played for mouth. He could easily be a one and done player with the Lakers because nobody knows where his head will be next season, even Kyrie.

        • I have to disagree with you on Myles Turner, Michael. I think the key to this season is reducing the workload on LeBron and AD and letting them play the 3 and 4 rather than going against bigger, tougher defenders by playing the 4 and 5.

          I think Turner is criticial in that he gives us a young stretch five who is perfect to play alongside Anthony Davis, who is better facing the basket than posting up and better as a help shot blocker than primary low post defender.

          I’m not a fan of having Kyrie be our point of attack defender or having unproven Jones or Bryant playing stretch five and rim protector. I would much prefer adding Turner and playing with a real two bigs.

          • Unproven? Thomas was a rising star in the league before the injuries. If he didn’t have the set backs you may have been wanting to trade for him. If he’s healthy he is also perfect along side AD. And lest we forget Turner hasn’t actually been a picture of health either. So either way you are betting on a healthy season. I’ll roll with the guy that is not costing two draft picks. And Bryant is a couple of years younger with room to grow. He’s a hustle player and is one of the best in the league at running the floor. A slight upgrade at center and a bench scorer isn’t going to get us to a contender level. Plus next year you are not going to let Turner walk for nothing and Buddy has 20 mil left on his contract. So you will have 40+ mil to replace Westbrooks 47 mil so again not a lot of options to improve the team.

      • My words from above: “Remember they’re not the only picks we have access to, the other ones just can’t be traded until draft night of their respective summers. ”. I’m well aware of our future draft asset stratus. They are the only assets we can trade now, later in the season if something goes wrong, next summer at any time and so on. The other picks, lovely as they are, can only be traded on draft day. We will not know if NOLA is swapping 2024 pick until they announce it, if we’re healthy it’s likely next summer. Hence my multiple declarations that NOLA is, in essence, also holding one of OUR draft picks hostage until they choose. That one being 2026. Can’t be traded if NOLA picks out 2025…until it’s relative draft day. This is all fairly plainly written up there. The 2027 and 2029 (are hell, let’s start including the next decade in the convo and add 2030!) are the only tools available for several years that can be used…in season…to improve the roster. Those are not tools to be wasted in a mid grade improvement. I’ve never bought the certainty of the “addition by subtraction” argument. First off it’s being made in a vacuum, but more importantly it’s an overpay to burn both picks on those two players. I don’t see how that’s not as plain as the nose on all of our faces. The Lakers have had a bad habit of burning good assets on bad players and, worse to my opinion, players we turn around and let walk for nothing. That’s not building. That’s not smart. That’s silly and wasteful, especially given the facts as to how Jeannie wants to keep costs down. Know how to do that? Draft players who are cost-controlled. Of course, then you get Rob selling short with Christie with just a 2 year deal so there’s little hope he has any clue he knows what he’s doing at this point. The man is inept.

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    Dennis Schroder has indicated he’d be open to return to the purple and gold. Who would be in favor of a DS redux? Honestly…I can think of worse options.

    Still searching for that bag…

    Dennis Schroder has indicated he’d be open to return to the purple and gold. Who would be in favor of a DS redux? Honestly…I can think of worse options.

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    • No thank you. Can’t shoot, can’t defend.

    • One problem with every Westbrook trade is getting back a point guard, or keeping Nunn for that position, or trading THT for Beverley, which makes sense from a 3&D and Darvin Ham point of view. Almost impossible to get enough good players without trading Russ as he is worth two or three rotation players in return. TPE is great for landing players like Hield or Gordon but need to be packaged with a pick. Lakers do have some good options but most of them will require unprotected picks. Are the Lakers ready to do that? That’s the question.

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    Now “news” is coming out that LeBron, Russ and AD all committed to each other during summer league on a phone call. This would have been prior to the Phoenix game and the “awkwardness” between Russ and LeBron. I think we have reached max wackiness. All I know is I have no clue what’s next…

    Lol, just gonna keep getting wackier

    Now “news” is coming out that LeBron, Russ and AD all committed to each other during summer league on a phone call. This would have been prior to the Phoenix game and the “awkwardness” between Russ and LeBron. I think we have reached max wackiness. All I know is I have no clue what’s next…

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    • You know as well as I that there is going to be more to come. The movement in the league has become so much more dynamic and that’s going to continue as players get more and more power.

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    Celtics have an $18.1mil that expires Monday. Playing with Monopoly money since they’re roster looks pretty stacked. Going to be interesting to see if they use it (possibly in a move for Clarkson?) or let it expire.

    Celtics TPE

    Celtics have an $18.1mil that expires Monday. Playing with Monopoly money since they’re roster looks pretty stacked. Going to be interesting to see if they use it (possibly in a move for Clarkson?) or let it expire.

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    • Boston is projected to pay $70M in luxury taxes at this point. It’s probably doubtful they want to take on Clarkson’s $11M contract considering it would cost them 2 to 3 times that due to tax.

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    Like last summer, when we low balled Caruso and lost him for nothing, we have entered the “Rob and Jeanie playing cutesy-wootsey with the season” territory. This has been the Laker MO since the banner year. We startled dismantling, player by player, a defensive focused team with dynamic size and scoring. Mainly because we thought Danny Green wouldn’t age well, that Caruso could be replaced by an aged and broken Trevor Ariza and that KCP and Kuzma’s impact could easily be replicated by Carmelo Anthony and any number of vet minimum players. To no surprise to this fan each of those has turned out to be the absolutely and unequivocally wrong move. Russell Westbrook is but the most expensive and public figure of that massive miscalculation. Now we have a disgruntled 47 million dollar player nobody wants. Nobody. Not for cap relief. Not for two middling 1st round draft picks two years out. Nobody. There is no shortage of theories and dreamy trade scenarios being bandied about. In fact that started back before the deadline when the same 4 assets the Lakers are peddling now were peddled with bo interest back at the trade deadline last season. The value of Nunn, THT, Russ and the 2 draft picks 5 and 7 years out respectively is unchanged. The value is low, really low. Like nobody is interested low. The thing about trades is both parties need to agree so I long ago tuned out every single one-sided mostly benefits the Lakers deal. Pie in the sky fantasy isn’t the pathway out of this. Rob and Co. need to embrace reality. Like yesterday. I think the Lakers have at least had conversations about including all of those assets in some potential trades. I think the return on that has not been palatable. Whether it be the size of Russ’s deal, the fact that Nunn was sidelined by a bone bruise for an entire season, the way THT’s deal is structured (and the low impact he has shown to possess) or the fact our offerable draft picks are quite a ways out there has been zero actual movement beyond the chatter generated by media outlets and blogs. As always I can kind of forgive fans for indulging in whimsy and wonder, they’re not paid to run the Lakers. But Rob had to have known at least a portion of what is now evident as far back as last March or he is inept. If I can see the writing on the wall a team worth billions should be able to, as well. The miscalculation isn’t really in the worth of our assets, though. Due diligence is one thing. But, unlike Tom’s post signaling success by a front office when they hadn’t done anything but sign low hanging free agent fruit, I think the Lakers gravely underestimated how their two-faced and double-handed approach would effect the fraying relationship with the player who is actually on the team right now: Russell Westbrook. Whether it’s LeBron’s passive aggressive approach to this situation on social media (he posts weekly “joke” posts on Instagram in which he puts a Russ for some other player and calls it “Would you like to see this happen? Your battery % is the chance it will) or the public nature in which the hunt for a Russ trade has played out it’s small wonder, to me anyhow, that Russ is seemingly pissed. Unlike the Lakers, at least up to this point, Russ himself has remained silent. Only his agent’s semi-classless take down job on his way out after a parting of ways provides any clues into how Westbrook feels. However, like Jeannie’s tweet which I felt (and she later confirmed) was taken wildly out of context, the same may be happening with Russ and his agent. We don’t have any real facts to go on but I do think the Lakers are treading on eggshells. The fact is that the market for Russell is and has always been very small, if it ever really existed. You can’t endlessly shoo him for every dude selling fruit from a cart at a park and expect him to show up chipper and ready to ball. There is some , or should be anyhow, level of respect for his game and his accomplishments. That doesn’t give him license to do whatever he wants but you will be absolutely wasting any chance ti. I’m Pete if there’s a $47 million dollar player who you don’t play. Jeannie will not abide that, Russ will not be sent home to pout, he’ll pout on the bench or in the court. He will be around the team, any suggestions contrary to that are, to put it politely, absurd. The fact that LeBron and AD aren’t pleased as punch should be a lesson for them to take home and marinate on. Let the GM do their job, don’t get involved unless you’re sure you want the responsibility. Can’t have it both ways. The bottom line is we’re a couple months away from everyone sucking it up and putting their pride to the side a little bit, something pro athletes are totally great at doing. Should be interesting. Coach Ham is going to have his work cut out for him.

    It’ll Sink In Soon

    Like last summer, when we low balled Caruso and lost him for nothing, we have entered the “Rob and Jeanie playing cutesy-wootsey with the season” territory. This has been the Laker MO since the banner year. We startled dismantling, player by player, a defensive focused team with dynamic size and scoring. Mainly because we thought Danny Green wouldn’t age well, that Caruso could be replaced by an aged and broken Trevor Ariza and that KCP and Kuzma’s impact could easily be replicated by Carmelo Anthony and any number of vet minimum players. To no surprise to this fan each of those has turned out to be the absolutely and unequivocally wrong move. Russell Westbrook is but the most expensive and public figure of that massive miscalculation. Now we have a disgruntled 47 million dollar player nobody wants. Nobody. Not for cap relief. Not for two middling 1st round draft picks two years out. Nobody. There is no shortage of theories and dreamy trade scenarios being bandied about. In fact that started back before the deadline when the same 4 assets the Lakers are peddling now were peddled with bo interest back at the trade deadline last season. The value of Nunn, THT, Russ and the 2 draft picks 5 and 7 years out respectively is unchanged. The value is low, really low. Like nobody is interested low. The thing about trades is both parties need to agree so I long ago tuned out every single one-sided mostly benefits the Lakers deal. Pie in the sky fantasy isn’t the pathway out of this. Rob and Co. need to embrace reality. Like yesterday. I think the Lakers have at least had conversations about including all of those assets in some potential trades. I think the return on that has not been palatable. Whether it be the size of Russ’s deal, the fact that Nunn was sidelined by a bone bruise for an entire season, the way THT’s deal is structured (and the low impact he has shown to possess) or the fact our offerable draft picks are quite a ways out there has been zero actual movement beyond the chatter generated by media outlets and blogs. As always I can kind of forgive fans for indulging in whimsy and wonder, they’re not paid to run the Lakers. But Rob had to have known at least a portion of what is now evident as far back as last March or he is inept. If I can see the writing on the wall a team worth billions should be able to, as well. The miscalculation isn’t really in the worth of our assets, though. Due diligence is one thing. But, unlike Tom’s post signaling success by a front office when they hadn’t done anything but sign low hanging free agent fruit, I think the Lakers gravely underestimated how their two-faced and double-handed approach would effect the fraying relationship with the player who is actually on the team right now: Russell Westbrook. Whether it’s LeBron’s passive aggressive approach to this situation on social media (he posts weekly “joke” posts on Instagram in which he puts a Russ for some other player and calls it “Would you like to see this happen? Your battery % is the chance it will) or the public nature in which the hunt for a Russ trade has played out it’s small wonder, to me anyhow, that Russ is seemingly pissed. Unlike the Lakers, at least up to this point, Russ himself has remained silent. Only his agent’s semi-classless take down job on his way out after a parting of ways provides any clues into how Westbrook feels. However, like Jeannie’s tweet which I felt (and she later confirmed) was taken wildly out of context, the same may be happening with Russ and his agent. We don’t have any real facts to go on but I do think the Lakers are treading on eggshells. The fact is that the market for Russell is and has always been very small, if it ever really existed. You can’t endlessly shoo him for every dude selling fruit from a cart at a park and expect him to show up chipper and ready to ball. There is some , or should be anyhow, level of respect for his game and his accomplishments. That doesn’t give him license to do whatever he wants but you will be absolutely wasting any chance ti. I’m Pete if there’s a $47 million dollar player who you don’t play. Jeannie will not abide that, Russ will not be sent home to pout, he’ll pout on the bench or in the court. He will be around the team, any suggestions contrary to that are, to put it politely, absurd. The fact that LeBron and AD aren’t pleased as punch should be a lesson for them to take home and marinate on. Let the GM do their job, don’t get involved unless you’re sure you want the responsibility. Can’t have it both ways. The bottom line is we’re a couple months away from everyone sucking it up and putting their pride to the side a little bit, something pro athletes are totally great at doing. Should be interesting. Coach Ham is going to have his work cut out for him.

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    • In case you can’t tell from the rant above I’m pissed. Not because I expected a trade to happen because I never really did. But that people paid to be better than me at this seem too obtuse to realize that there will be pretty much one shot for the Lakers to trade Russ and not pay for the doing. That shot is (was since it’s basically a blown chance now) was to bring Russ back with open arms (including James and Davis) and trying to rehab his value for the trade deadline. His deal will have the most value it can have on that day, if he plays well enough up to then a team can talk itself into living with him on the roster for a couple months. Rob has to go after this. He’s not running a master class in anything but cowing the a singular sports agency, is terrible at evaluating talent that you bring in via free agency and the only thing I give him any credit at all for at this point is not screwing up the draft by opposing what the scouts recommend we use our meager draft assets for. There has not been one single move that panned out after we’ve won. Not one. It’s almost as if we never win it at all. This is how bad jokes start. Someone needs to get in Rob’s face and tell him to stop fussing over his hair and get to &@$%ing work.

      • You do know that stream of consciousness does have paragraphs? Seriously impossible to read.

      • Well put Jamie. I wonder if Robb would have a job now if he wasn’t Kobe’s BFF. The way the season is shaping up that won’t be enough to save him. Every thing has sprung from one fundamental mistake. Robb’s failure to understand that as long as LeBron plays he will have the ball in his hands. It’s a nice thought about saving him but it will never happen. Robb traded a first rounder and Danny for Dennis, a ball dominate guard. Didn’t work. Then he traded 2 more players from the NBA’s best defense for Russ and that didn’t work. LeBron needs a guard that can shoot and play off the ball. He finally got it right with Nunn but unfortunately he was hurt. You can make a lot of mistakes as a GM but not understanding your players and what fits and doesn’t fit is unforgivable.

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    Russ and his agent have parted ways due to “irreconcilable differences”…WTF?! Not that it effects anything at all but feels weird.

    Odd timing

    Russ and his agent have parted ways due to “irreconcilable differences”…WTF?! Not that it effects anything at all but feels weird.

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    • From his agent: In a statement, Foucher said: “I represented Russell Westbrook for 14 years and am proud of our partnership which included a highly successful 2008 draft, a super-max contract and the only renegotiation-and-extend max contract in history. I also supported Russell throughout his rise into a prominent fashion industry figure and recently orchestrated three successive trades on Russell’s behalf — culminating with the trade to his hometown Los Angeles Lakers.

      “Each time, teams gave up valuable players and assets to acquire Russell – and each time, a new organization embraced his arrival. We did it together with grace and class.

      “Now, with a possibility of a fourth trade in four years, the marketplace is telling the Lakers they must add additional value with Russell in any trade scenario. And even then, such a trade may require Russell to immediately move on from the new team via buyout.

      “My belief is that this type of transaction only serves to diminish Russell’s value and his best option is to stay with the Lakers, embrace the starting role and support that Darvin Ham publicly offered. Russell is a first-ballot Naismith Basketball Hall of Fame player and will prove that again before he is retired.

      “Unfortunately, irreconcilable differences exist as to his best pathway forward and we are no longer working together. I wish Russell and his family the very best.

      • One wonders if the Lakers had tried to buy Russ out or if he is now about to become a Klutch Klient? 5 year max extension here we come!!! lol

    • Who knows. It’s a weird statement to make considering he’s still under contract.

    • Sometimes these agents seem to forget who works for who in that relationship. And Russ doesn’t seem like the guy who’s taking a whole lotta lip from an employee.

      But for real, if this dude was my agent then he would be losing another client today. You’ve got no reason to be putting your man’s business out on the street even after you’ve split. Keep my name outta your mouth and move on.

      • Especially with that “wishing him and his family all the best!” line after he hung all that laundry out for everyone to see…weird summer.

    • I give the agent credit for giving Russ the advice he needed to hear: take Darvin Ham’s offer to start and change the direction of your career back to positive and winning. Russ was a fool not to listen to the guy who’s had his back all of these years. That was the best advice Russ has received and should have been heeded. Reminds me of the struggles Tom Cruise had in Jerry Maguire. Sometimes, it’s the player who errors in not listening to his agent.

      • Yeah but it ain’t his agent trying to trade Russ and Jerry McGuire was about getting that 1st big pay day. Russ has gotten paid. Maybe I’m missing something but his agent literally has zero to do with what’s going on right now until such time as Russ is on another team. Maybe Russ is more willing than his agent to accept a buyout? I dunno…odd month so far.

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    Reading some articles and watching some hoops news on my lunch and, I must admit, it is fun to watch as the world slowly starts to come around to an opinion you put out there months ago. The Nets openly indicating that they won’t trade Durant because they are unimpressed by offers for him thus far. That makes sense in a bunch of ways. First, Durant had two whopping teams he was willing to be traded to: Miami and Phoenix. Both of those teams were in the mix for a ring last season but came up short. Is the missing piece Durant, especially if the cost is a grip ton of draft capital and some of your best players? Does Durant gloss over the loss of Bridges ever-improving game or Crowder’s elite three and D skill set? Is he worth the potential that is Scottie Barnes? Of all the teams I still see Miami as the most equipped and (big and there) willing to pull the trigger on a move. Lowry has to be in the mix otherwise this doesn’t work. Lowry, Herro, Robinson and every draft pick until 2030 (with some work with OKC to remove protections on 2025 for a slight cost) is a pretty decent deal. Does it make the Nets contenders? Nope.

    This is where the Kobe comparison comes back into play. Kobe had the ludicrous notion that the Lakers would trade him for just picks and expiring money. That is fire-able offense by any and every GM. Their job is to build a team, not make life easier for the players. A role that is far too often confused. The Nets looking at Miami’s “best” (which can’t include Bam unless the Nets move Ben which also won’t happen) have to think that rolling the dice with Durant, no matter how grumpy he might be, is worth it. Herro is good, maybe even super star good but he’s not there, yet and he’s not close to a decent two-way player. Robinson hit his ceiling two seasons ago and may not hit it again. Lowry is old and starting to break down. Keeping KD is a better option.

    Brooklyn looking at what would/could now be Phoenix’s best offer (which can’t include Ayton as S&T or filler this summer) should also give pause. Does Bridges, Crowder and Johnson elevate you to contender status? No, but Phoenix has the most draft capital to spend which could be enticing if Brooklyn wants to go full rebuild. The thing is, Brooklyn has maintained all along that they want to trade Durant, replenish the draft pick farm and contend. Frankly, given Durant’s status as a current top ten player in the NBA and maybe top 15-20 All Time, why shouldn’t they? Why should they settle on spare parts and chump picks for one of the best to ever lace them up? The reasons aren’t plentiful, pretty much from what I’ve heard and read the answer back is “he’ll be grumpy”. That ain’t a reason, that’s an excuse.

    So, if the Nets want to keep Durant and try to decrease his grump amplitude there really is only one thing they can do: keep Kyrie Irving. For whatever wacktastic reason Kevin Durant likes to be on the same team as Kyrie Irving to the point he indicated he would be less grumpy if he and Irving were traded to the same team. As if any GM in any sport on planet Earth would want to recreate Frankenstein’s monster for themselves just to watch it trash their team. I would imagine that, on an emotional level the Nets are 100% done with Kyrie Irving and his baggage. However, there are compelling financial reasons that are worth bringing up.

    The market for Kyrie is even smaller than Durant’s wish list. It’s 1: the Los Angeles Lakers. The problem with a Laker trade is that it will have to be for Russell Westbrook. This will undoubtedly affect Durant’s grump factor and cause his Grump-O-Meter to dip wildly into the negative. There’s a reason why Brooklyn wants to get a Durant deal done first. It’s because if they choose to keep him they want Kyrie on the team to both stay competitive and throw Durant an emotional bone. “Hey guy, we didn’t trade you but we got your crazy friend still on the roster so we’re good, right?” is how one imagines the conversation could go.

    The Nets might blink. Maybe they take above-average role-players and a lot of draft picks and call it even. I’m sure there are those within the organization calling for a total tear down and let’s just walk away from this ever growing dumpster fire. I’m sure there’s also a faction that demands getting worth back that feels equitable. That will be pretty hard to accomplish and that’s why, for awhile now, I’ve been saying the Nets are just as likely to keep both players as trade them.

    If the Lakers want to move Russ, and I think they do and have been met with a lot of nothing, they need to see if Indy really is interested and get that deal done ASAP. Because as soon as Brooklyn announces they’re closing shop and rolling as-is that will about end the idea of a major trade happening prior to the start of the season. Summer League is over, people are going on vacation and turning their attention to things that need to be done post free agency. There will still be some trades but the chance that a big one happens decreases with every passing day.

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    Reading some articles and watching some hoops news on my lunch and, I must admit, it is fun to watch as the world slowly starts to come around to an opinion you put out there months ago. The Nets openly indicating that they won’t trade Durant because they are unimpressed by offers for him thus far. That makes sense in a bunch of ways. First, Durant had two whopping teams he was willing to be traded to: Miami and Phoenix. Both of those teams were in the mix for a ring last season but came up short. Is the missing piece Durant, especially if the cost is a grip ton of draft capital and some of your best players? Does Durant gloss over the loss of Bridges ever-improving game or Crowder’s elite three and D skill set? Is he worth the potential that is Scottie Barnes? Of all the teams I still see Miami as the most equipped and (big and there) willing to pull the trigger on a move. Lowry has to be in the mix otherwise this doesn’t work. Lowry, Herro, Robinson and every draft pick until 2030 (with some work with OKC to remove protections on 2025 for a slight cost) is a pretty decent deal. Does it make the Nets contenders? Nope.

    This is where the Kobe comparison comes back into play. Kobe had the ludicrous notion that the Lakers would trade him for just picks and expiring money. That is fire-able offense by any and every GM. Their job is to build a team, not make life easier for the players. A role that is far too often confused. The Nets looking at Miami’s “best” (which can’t include Bam unless the Nets move Ben which also won’t happen) have to think that rolling the dice with Durant, no matter how grumpy he might be, is worth it. Herro is good, maybe even super star good but he’s not there, yet and he’s not close to a decent two-way player. Robinson hit his ceiling two seasons ago and may not hit it again. Lowry is old and starting to break down. Keeping KD is a better option.

    Brooklyn looking at what would/could now be Phoenix’s best offer (which can’t include Ayton as S&T or filler this summer) should also give pause. Does Bridges, Crowder and Johnson elevate you to contender status? No, but Phoenix has the most draft capital to spend which could be enticing if Brooklyn wants to go full rebuild. The thing is, Brooklyn has maintained all along that they want to trade Durant, replenish the draft pick farm and contend. Frankly, given Durant’s status as a current top ten player in the NBA and maybe top 15-20 All Time, why shouldn’t they? Why should they settle on spare parts and chump picks for one of the best to ever lace them up? The reasons aren’t plentiful, pretty much from what I’ve heard and read the answer back is “he’ll be grumpy”. That ain’t a reason, that’s an excuse.

    So, if the Nets want to keep Durant and try to decrease his grump amplitude there really is only one thing they can do: keep Kyrie Irving. For whatever wacktastic reason Kevin Durant likes to be on the same team as Kyrie Irving to the point he indicated he would be less grumpy if he and Irving were traded to the same team. As if any GM in any sport on planet Earth would want to recreate Frankenstein’s monster for themselves just to watch it trash their team. I would imagine that, on an emotional level the Nets are 100% done with Kyrie Irving and his baggage. However, there are compelling financial reasons that are worth bringing up.

    The market for Kyrie is even smaller than Durant’s wish list. It’s 1: the Los Angeles Lakers. The problem with a Laker trade is that it will have to be for Russell Westbrook. This will undoubtedly affect Durant’s grump factor and cause his Grump-O-Meter to dip wildly into the negative. There’s a reason why Brooklyn wants to get a Durant deal done first. It’s because if they choose to keep him they want Kyrie on the team to both stay competitive and throw Durant an emotional bone. “Hey guy, we didn’t trade you but we got your crazy friend still on the roster so we’re good, right?” is how one imagines the conversation could go.

    The Nets might blink. Maybe they take above-average role-players and a lot of draft picks and call it even. I’m sure there are those within the organization calling for a total tear down and let’s just walk away from this ever growing dumpster fire. I’m sure there’s also a faction that demands getting worth back that feels equitable. That will be pretty hard to accomplish and that’s why, for awhile now, I’ve been saying the Nets are just as likely to keep both players as trade them.

    If the Lakers want to move Russ, and I think they do and have been met with a lot of nothing, they need to see if Indy really is interested and get that deal done ASAP. Because as soon as Brooklyn announces they’re closing shop and rolling as-is that will about end the idea of a major trade happening prior to the start of the season. Summer League is over, people are going on vacation and turning their attention to things that need to be done post free agency. There will still be some trades but the chance that a big one happens decreases with every passing day.

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    • Great post Jamie. The only reason KD wanted to leave was because he felt Kyrie wasn’t treated fairly in his extension negotiations. Now Kyrie says he wants to stay. Of course that could simply be a public relations move in case he isn’t traded. Who really knows what is being discussed behind closed doors. It’s fun to blame the Lakers, but the delay in the trade may not have anything to do with the Lakers. It could be the Nets who are not ready to pull the trigger.

      • Exactly. Or Indy, as well. Russell and his expiring money will be on the table all season long. Nobody needs to rush to snap it up.

    • We’re in agreement that the Lakers need to move now. Completing the trade and getting rid of Russ and adding Kyrie is more important than any of our trading chips, including the two picks. Make them unprotected if you have to but get the deal done for Kyrie and two of Harris, Curry or Richardson.

      • That’s the same one-sided argument I’ve seen here and everywhere else. It takes two to tango and from what it looks like to me the Nets are perfectly fine sitting this dance out. For now.
        That’s the other calculus that is often glossed over or wholly ignored: The Russ deal will be on the table all day, every day from now until the trade deadline or he actually gets traded. There will never ever be a publicly declared “we’re keeping Russ no matter what” stance. The offer is there, every team knows it. I have to believe that Rob is good enough at his job as to not let two draft picks five years out stop him from making a sensible trade, even for a guy who probably won’t top 50 games total, including playoffs, this season. No team is in a hurry to acquire Russ, that phone line will be open 24-7-365. In fact, the opposite is true: the longer you wait to make the Russ deal the more the Lakers pay. Are you telling me that every other GM in the Association isn’t mildly smug about that fact?

        I think what everyone means to say is that the Lakers would very much, please-and-thank-you, LIKE to move fast. Brooklyn has Durant in the fold, they can trade him anytime over the course of the next 4 seasons. He’ll play, he has too much professional pride not to and he’s in the mix for some big records if he can average 60ish games a season for the next 4 seasons. He’s a legacy guy and he wants his to be one of the best.

        If Durant is on Brooklyn Russell won’t be. They won’t do it for a buyout/cap relief, that’s coming when Kyrie’s deal is up next summer anyhow. It’s not a wild theory to suggest they simply bide their time, see what happens with Kyrie and COVID, maybe it doesn’t come to vaxx required for indoor events like it did last season, and they rocket out of the gate and look like barn burners.

        It took a month or so into the season for Kobe to back down from his trade request and it was all because Bynum was playing well and the Lakers were winning. When he went down Kobe didn’t turn tail and say trade me he had conversations behind the scenes for them to do something an Pau Gasol rode into the picture. It’s not hard to see the Nets achieving something similar.

        • All of the same goes for an Indy trade, as well. I’m sure the Lakers would like for something to materialize quickly. I just don’t think it’s going to happen. There comes a time when you’ve asked the same girl to dance enough times that the plain old “no” she’s been saying all along sinks in.

    • Thanks buba. It’s certainly not a fun or probably popular opinion but my feeling is more folks will come around to it as time wears on. Simply because it won’t be opinion by that time but fact.

    • I hear that, dude, loud and clear.

    • Training camp starts in about 2 months…that’s the only date I’d like to see us shooting for to get a Westbrook/Kyrie trade done. Alot of our problems last season started with not taking camp & the pre-season seriously. Started slow out the gate and the sh!tshow was on. Wanna see D.Ham with the roster set and some actual momentum headed into October. Plus…mid season trades rarely work out. So we got 2 months….just my 2 cents.

      As for KD, alot has changed both contractually & philosophically in the league since Kobe & Melo demanded trades. Kobe was Laker family and they were gonna do whatever they could to keep him here after wasting multiple years of his prime. That ain’t KD’s situation. The Melo thing showed what happens when you dismantle the entire team to get one superstar … a total of one playoff series win. KD set a very narrow set of parameters for him to be traded so if those aren’t met then he’ll most likely be back with the Nets with no harm done.

      At any rate…there’s gonna be a whole lotta bullsh!t floating around in the next few weeks…lol

      • I think the Nets are taking a page out of both the Kobe/Melo handbook. KD has no leverage, same as Kibe at the time, and they really didn’t even make a move to appease him other than I think that ended up being the year D-Fish came back after he begged/snuck out of his deal with the Warriors? Would have to go check that one… Two months is a long time, especially with all that BS in the tub 😆

      • I think Kobe’s leverage was his history & relationship with the Buss family and the franchise & city in general. Lotta good-will built up there. They laid out a plan for him and Pau was there the following February.

        • That’s true, Pau saved the franchise and cemented Kobe’s legend and was largely dumped on thereafter lol. Loved Pau tho, one of my faves. Might go to the game they retire his jersey. Camp can’t get here fast enough at this point.

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    Sounds like a massive 4-team deal could be in the works, Utah, Indy, New York and Phoenix are rumored to be hashing out a deal that moves Simmons and Durant, Utah moves Mitchell, Indy moves Turner and Buddy and New York moves whomever they can and a boatload of draft picks.

    If that is more than rumor (no guarantee and I think New York would maybe prefer to deal with Utah exclusively since it’s a lot fewer moving parts and why should they help Brooklyn anyhow?) than we could see Durant moved by the end of the weekend.

    Or it’s just a rumor and a Durant deal stays on ice. Unlike the Lakers there aren’t a ton of leaks coming from any of these teams just that the Nets would like to get salary relief in any Durant/Irving deal, want good draft picks and good players. That’s a “no doy” kind of statement.

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    Sounds like a massive 4-team deal could be in the works, Utah, Indy, New York and Phoenix are rumored to be hashing out a deal that moves Simmons and Durant, Utah moves Mitchell, Indy moves Turner and Buddy and New York moves whomever they can and a boatload of draft picks.

    If that is more than rumor (no guarantee and I think New York would maybe prefer to deal with Utah exclusively since it’s a lot fewer moving parts and why should they help Brooklyn anyhow?) than we could see Durant moved by the end of the weekend.

    Or it’s just a rumor and a Durant deal stays on ice. Unlike the Lakers there aren’t a ton of leaks coming from any of these teams just that the Nets would like to get salary relief in any Durant/Irving deal, want good draft picks and good players. That’s a “no doy” kind of statement.

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    • It truly is crazy season. I haven’t read that one yet. But many outlets are reporting that Kyrie said he never asked for a trade and that he intends to play for the Nets with or without KD. And Windhorst reported this morning that the vibe around the Nets front office is they are prepared to keep both KD and Kyrie. Perhaps that is what prompted Kyrie to say he intends to play with the Nets. It all could be posturing. Or it could be the truth. Who knows. But with all of these different possible narratives out there it does prove that there is no such thing as a sure thing.

      • All of those Kyrie wanting to play for the Nets stories came from a NY Post story that reported someone who knows Kyrie says he has never asked to be traded and actually opted in to finish the year with the Nets. From there, the story was aggregated everywhere. There is no chance imo that Kyrie or Russ do not get traded but there is no doubt this is a crazy offseason.

        • Here’s the original story:

          When asked if Irving was also willing to play for the Nets despite the team having had multiple rounds of talks with the Lakers, the source said he was — and that includes even if Durant is traded away.

          “Kyrie wants to play. … He wants to win a championship, and he wants to play,” the source told The Post, adding Irving and Durant are friends and supportive of each other although not necessarily tied at the hip. “I think when KD said he wanted a trade, he didn’t say I’m going to trade to where Kyrie goes.”

          • I read the story. None of it is all that believable or, frankly matters. It’s what the Nets choose to do that will define what everyone else is allowed to try and do. All I’m trying to do here is balance the flood of “It’s 100% bonafide surefire guaranteed and I’ll bet my saddle it’ll happen 5 minutes ago” stuff with something a little different.

            The truth is the Nets haven’t stated they want to trade Kyrie just as Kyrie hasn’t stated he wants a trade. At least publicly. All this hoopla, except for KD saying he wants to be traded, has been created by the various media personalities.

            That is why I am not very convinced there will be a trade. I did some reading last night, I went back and looked at the stories that were out there when Kobe demanded a trade.

            Kobe Bryant submitted a trade request from the Lakers on a radio show in 2007, but walked it back. Kobe Bryant went on an ESPN radio show during the offseason to push for a trade away from the Lakers. He laid it out as non-confrontationally as he could muster the composure to:

            “I would like to be traded, yeah. Tough as it is to come to that conclusion there’s no other alternative, you know?”

            “I just want them to do the right thing.”

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    5 Things: Lakers trade winds

    The idea of trade winds has been around for some time. If you’ve spent time at sea or hang with people with a nautical bent you’ll hear them bring them up on occasion. In case you’re wondering what they are: The trade winds are winds that reliably blow east to west just north and south of the equator. The winds help ships travel west, and they can also steer storms such as hurricanes, too. Stuck at sea? Head towards the equator and build some speed up, find some winds to ride and get back in sight of land. For all intents and purposes, the Lakers are currently stuck at sea and good trade wind may be the only way to regain momentum with the current crew.

    1. The Perfect Storm. The big thing online these days is to dissect the myriad of ways the Lakers could acquire Kyrie Irving and some other players at the cost of Russell Westbrook and…and uh, well, that there’s the current conundrum. Hurricanes Lakers, Nets, Russell and Kyrie have not combined to form the perfect storm yet. Sometimes tropical storm Spurs get tossed out there as a potential catalyst but I ain’t buying that one. In fact it’s actually more like All Quiet on the Western Front with nothing but false radar blips and sonar pings in the form of media heads filling the time and space between now and the start of camp with the best TV the NBA has to offer this time of year: Laker drama at 6 followed by our T.G.I.F. line up of “What’s LeBron Doing?” at 7, “Look Where Russell Is Sitting” at 8 and “Look Kyrie Said Something at the Spark Game!!!” at 9 followed by the Late Show with host Anthony Davis. People call the week or so between the end of the playoffs and the draft the Dog Days of summer but, for me at least, this is the Dog Days. No real information, people who are paid to talk doing just that with nary a real fact to report and Lakers fans reeking of almost as much desperation as Rob clinging to every post or report. It’s enough to make a man watch Snowflake Mountain.
    2. When the wind dies down. Sending Kyrie to the Lakers is really the only option they have besides keeping him on the roster and forcing his hand. If the Nets can’t find a suitable trade for Durant this option becomes a lot more viable since Durant has indicated that he would love to keep the wacky-ass partnership he has going with Irving alive on some other sucker, er, team. Why? Who knows and, frankly, who cares. The fact that Durant feels that way is enough for the Nets to keep the band together until camp comes around and let those two figure out what they want to do. Without KD and Irving it feels unlikely that the Nets will compete this season. That could change if they can convince Phoenix or Miami to part with an All Star…which also feels unlikely. To date the Nets have indicated that a Kyrie deal will happen after a Durant deal which doesn’t feel imminent. In fact all the noise around that topic has died down to barely a whisper, enough to make the water ripple but not enough to push the boat through the sea. I don’t think a Kyrie trade happens at all if the Nets can’t find a trade they like for Kevin.
    3. The doldrums are a real thing. As reliable as a trade wind can be there is, like in all things, a flip side to that phenomena. It’s called The Doldrums. The doldrums is a popular nautical term that refers to the belt around the Earth near the equator where sailing ships sometimes get stuck on windless waters. That’s where all parties involved are right now. Teams like Minnesota have rejected giving up 2 young stars (KAT and AE) and a grip ton of draft picks. There is no movement on the Phoenix or Miami front. The hilarious Golden State connection is DOA. In short, that ship isn’t going anywhere and is looking for a breath of fresh wind to fill the sails. Could that be a Kyrie Irving three team trade that ends up giving Brooklyn and large Traded Player Exception that could be used to offload a bad deal or two to help convince a team like Miami to part with Bam or Phoenix to part with Booker or Minny to part with newly extended Kat? No. I don’t think so. I’ve looked over what that involves and neither the Lakers or Nets have the draft assets, currently, to make that feasibly entice a team like San Antonio to do them a favor. So until the asking price for Durant goes down he is staying a Net.
    4. Would the Nets just trade Kyrie and change for Russell? Personally I don’t see that happening for the following reasons: I think the Nets believe that they can bring Kevin back into the fold by not trading Kyrie and that they can get both guys on something akin to the same page with the organization. The Nets have bent over backwards to accommodate both men and they have continued to fill out the roster with useful role-players. Moves that remind me how the Lakers responded when Kobe demanded to be traded. They never once publicly said they wouldn’t do it but nor did they panic and take the first bad deal that came down the pike. The fact that both Durant and Bryant seemed to think they could be traded for players that weren’t All Stars and just bit guys and draft picks speaks to how out of touch with reality Durant is in this moment. The Nets might not get Booker but they won’t settle for an extended Ayton. The Nets might not get Jimmy but they won’t settle for an extended/hard-capping Herro. So on and so forth. The sticking point on the Lakers end seems to be utterly bailing on the rest of the decade and why that could, maybe just possibly, be a bad thing to do. Especially with the following facts in hand: COVID will get worse in winter which may very well lead states like California to require proof of vaccination in order to attend, engage in or be a part of indoor events. At that point Kyrie is about as valuable as The Maltese Falcon. Everyone assumes LeBron can reign in Kyrie, including LeBron. No offense but we saw how well that worked last season dude. James doesn’t have the pull or voice he once did, he couldn’t communicate with Russ in any meaningful way and still doesn’t seem to have. Does anyone really believe that Russ is more stubborn than Kyrie is? I don’t, at best they are the same level of self before others, at worse Kyrie is more stubborn as we have seen him willing to miss playoff games in the name of standing up for the little guy. Which he’s doing great at, by the way.
    5. Any way the wind blows, doesn’t really matter to me…to me. If this is mostly about keeping LeBron James happy than the calculus is jacked. LeBron is as fickle as they in regards to whom is on the team. The one thing that has been proven to me is that LeBron is good at a whole heckuva lot of things. Team building isn’t one of them. It’s why Cleveland lost it’s luster to him early on, they cowed to his every whim. It’s why he chose Miami because, somewhere inside of him, he realized he functions best in an organized and structured environment with a clear line of command. He went back to Cleveland to finish a job and he came here because it’s a matter of both convenience and mutual goals. He came because of the legacy and the history, not because the Laker front office are masters of, well, anything at all but leaking bad information for no advantageous reason whatsoever. He will move on, like all mercs do, when the goals diverge or the convenience becomes something else. He is not, and has never been, a Laker Lifer. I’m sure he’ll do the little Spectrum shows, do a top ten LeBron Laker moments, so on so forth. He’ll pass Laker Legends in a Laker uniform and that’s kind of cool but it also feels kind of calculated and, honestly, a little pre-meditated which pisses me off a little. Kobe played himself into the ground wearing that jersey, Magic had to be stricken by a deadly illness and still came back for more. LeBron? Well, if one is honest, he’s doing exactly what he can do right now which is wait until 8/4/2022 to say or do anything regarding his extension. So final judgement can wait a couple weeks. Still, I can’t let myself put LeBron in anywhere near the same category as the other all time Laker greats I just mentioned, I don’t even put him at Pau Gasol level, yet. Pau got traded, for wee and fragile Chris Paul who is unlikely to ever win a ring at this point, because some brainiac in the front office thought the ball dominant superstar who never gave the ball up to anybody would totally give the ball up to CP3 thus breaking up potentially the last, great Laker dynasty. How did Pau respond? He was, as he has always been, a pro about it. Called it unfortunate, said he wanted to stay a Laker, and played the season out Can’t say I believe that team had another ring in them but you never know and now we never will. Anyhow, point of all that here on #5 is we need to prepare for a post-LeBron world and nobody should really want Kyrie here unless he takes a pay cut and has a contract with games played performance clauses. If someone doesn’t show up to work (and let’s remember Kyrie averages 55 games/season and a lot of those aren’t due to any injuries at all nor exclusively COVID related) they’re about as useful as the office chair their ass should be sitting in.

    Saturday has come and gone, summer league ends tomorrow, so when Mr. Sun comes up on Monday morning and there is no Kyrie trade it’ll just set off a different wave of absurdity and nonsense. “We saw them at the place, they talked and smiled, WOJ WAS THERE!!!” and other forms of boring malarkey. You can bet I’ll be tuning it out because it’s empty-headed nonsense brought to life for the sole purpose of occupying space and time. Rob should continue to try and leverage the Brooklyn situation to pressure a team like Indy to make a deal for THT and Nunn, sans draft picks if he can, and then batten down the hatches and prepare for a squall. The truth is even that kind of deal feels pretty farfetched at this point. Starting to feel like this is the team rolling into next season to me.

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    • Aloha Jamie,

      living in Hawaii, i enjoy the trade winds on a warm day. but im not enjoying the NBA trate winds much. at this point I wouldnt be surprised either way. i do know that if we do make the trade we will probably get screwed over. since the end of the season, negative leaks have flowed from the front office and Lebron, stripping away any leverage we may have had. you made an interesting point. The Nets traded a first round pick for Royce Oneil and gambled on TJ Warren. these are not moves that a tanking team makes. The Nets are looking for a haul for KD, especially after they saw what The Jazz got for Gobert. If they don’t trade KD and they look at their roster and say, you know with Kyrie we could compete for a ring, think they still trade him for a distant first or two? Championships are hard to come by, the Nets never have won one. i think they would pass on the picks for a ring. and whats Kyrie going to do? this is a contract year. If he wants to get paid he needs to step up. any further antics could cost him millions. It will be interesting to see what happens with KD because that will be the key to Kyrie.

    • One of the first things sailors learn about Trade Winds is not to piss into the wind because you know what happens.

      Kyrie for Russ trade will happen soon so enjoy every piece of disappointing Lakers news hoping you are right.

      The good news is you will be wrong and the Lakers will trade Russ for Kyrie and be back in the hunt this season.

      • Lol, someone is grumpy…

        • Pretty sure you’re talking about head winds, fwiw. Also see

          • Also seems like you didn’t bother to read as I say here (and multiple other mites) that I think trading Russ makes decent sense but that there ain’t a lotta movement. Enjoy watching Brian Windhorst’s Twitter feed until midnight lol

            • We’re all just watching the most boring game of chicken ever. Who will blink? Rob and send out draft picks because he doesn’t have the stone to get a deal done without them? The Nets because they are o-v-e-r Irving.? Neither and they just keep staring until the season rolls around? All for a player who we’ll be lucky to squeeze 60 total (including playoffs) games out of? Awesome. I haven’t been this excited since we signed Matt Barnes!!!

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