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    5 Things: Fundamental Flaws

    Not going to lie, this isn’t an inspiring topic to write about these days. The sad state of affairs that the Los Angeles Lakers have become is on full display for all to see. The faults and flaws in the foundation are plain to see for all. Most of us round these parts saw this season coming roughly 8-9 months ago. Some think a trade can fix most of it, some don’t. For now though, this is the Laker team we’re all forced to stomach and, to put it bluntly, it ain’t pretty.

    1. “The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing”-Stephen Covey. In this case that would be putting the ball in the basket better. Simple, right? In the case of the Lakers who swung wildly from one side of the NBA equation to the other, yet again, this summer evidently not. One has to wonder at this point why Wenyan Gabriel is on the team and Carmelo Anthony is not. I would play Melo in front of Gabriel, JTA, Troy Brown Jr., Jones and Ryan. Unsigned. This team needs someone besides LeBron who can score from the outside. That ain’t Anthony Davis, not on this team. Probably not ever again. Sooner he and everyone else accepts that and plays and adjusts accordingly the better for everyone, Davis included. I’m sure there will be games where he heats up, that jumper is falling, but he took three outside the paint shots last night, one of which was a three pointer. He ain’t stretching jack shit. It’s not the coach, it’s not the system, it’s not that lack of other floor spacers it is the player.
    2. “Well, you can put lipstick on a hog and call it Monique, but it’s still a pig.”-Gov. Ann Richards. In this case that would be the, shall we say anemic, Lakers bench. There was no way to look at this without wondering where points would come from. JTA’s career average is 4.8 ppg. Wenyan Gabriel 3.5 ppg. Troy Brown Jr. 6.4 ppg, impressive for this squad and I can see why coach Ham is excited about the young lad. Austin Reaves is 7.2 but that’s based off his empty calorie season here last year when he scored 7.3 ppg and this season is a more accurate representation of both his role and impact at 5.5 ppg. Damion Jones 5.6 ppg. That’s 27.5 ppg, on average from 5 players and I’m keeping Reaves on the bench in this because he shouldn’t be a starter. Yes, that does exclude the streaky Kendrick Nunn and his 14.7 ppg. Currently he’s at an also anemic 5.5 ppg. That 9.2 point differential is the biggest issue confronting the Lakers right now. Without it the Laker bench is averaging 33 ppg. This season, small sample size though it may be, the Laker bench is averaging 22.8 PPG, next to last behind Philly. 9.2 points gets us to an even 32 ppg.
    3. “Talent is cheaper than table salt. What separates the talented individual from the successful one is a lot of hard work.”-Stephen King. There is actually talent on this team. It just isn’t working right. Now this may come back to, as James mentioned in his post gamer, a lack of familiarity. If that’s the case, good, there is nowhere to go but up. However, if we recall the lesson’s of last season and the pratfalls of what preseason can inform us, this team is actually great at working hard. There truly isn’t enough talent. Trade or no trade we are relying on a bench of cast off players. We have at least 3 end of the bench guys in featured roles and that’s without major injuries. Can Thomas Bryant and/or Schroder really be the answer to this equation? It’s hard for me to see that as the answer.
    4. “Better the devil you know than the devil you don’t know.”-Anthony Trollope. This pearl of wisdom has been used often and successfully in my life. When people clamored to trade Gasol or Walton or Danny Green or any number of contributing role-players whom could find fault in (protip: you will find fault in all things if that is what you are looking for and that one’s all me) I would post some version of that quote. However, in this season, I don’t think that’s true. The real question is, given the assets we have to ship out, is there a deal out there to improve that? This topic will define the Lakers season and it’s one that can’t be answered by fans. Few questions or issues can. Personally, I’m dubious. I feel like we burned this season two summers ago when we let all of our modular contract players go via the trade for Russ and let Caruso and Schroder walk for nothing. This is the price of ineptitude. The only question is do they choose the band aid or let the rot fall away?
    5. “Far from being the end, death marks the start of a series of events that together complete the circle of life. From the decomposition of plant litter by worms, which captured Darwin’s attention, to the decay of a giant whale corpse at the bottom of the sea, the process of decay recycles the dead and resupplies the building blocks of life.”-Cyrus Martin. Extreme, I know. But this one gives me a faint whiff of hope. Watching LeBron is fun, he can’t do it on his own, he needs more talent. That can come in the form of Kyle Kuzma (the Lakers LOVE reunions!!!), Jerami Grant or Myles Turner (signed for zero draft picks!) next summer. This season will be wasted. Sure, the Buddy/Myles trade might vault us back into the playin convo. Any trade tossed out that’s the ceiling. Maybe not Kyrie and Curry but I doubt the Nets bite unless things really cave and they just look to pull the plug on the whole shebang and take what they can get. A true fire sale. Still, it ain’t up to me and I still have a Russ trade happening at 50/50 odds…in February.

    “The now-ubiquitous ‘Keep Calm and Carry On’ phrase was chosen for its clear message of ‘sober restraint’ and was coined by the shadow Ministry of Information at some point between 27 June and 6 July 1939.”-Wikipedia (they could use a donation, btw, lol). It’s just basketball. It can be fun to watch, this is generally speaking not too much fun, moreso to talk/type about as in the moment of watching the game I’m enjoying myself. it’s the Russ bashing, predictable ineptitude of Rob, and the overall erosion of a team I did enjoy watching into this muddy mess that’s hard to find the fun in. C’est la vie. Go Lakers.

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    • I mean…we all watch hoops, the premise is simple and this team can’t seem to execute. No Russ, nothing changes, also won’t get better with Russ. I’m not one on trades fixing everything, there’s always some glimmer of truth to “the grass is always greener” quote. I haven’t seen a realistic trade proposal yet that fixes this roster. Buddy gets played off the floor when the game needs to be won, can Ham fix that? I sincerely doubt it.

      Same goes for Myles. Probably would help the interior defense but his contributions will largely end there. His 34.8% from three isn’t warping the defense to let James shake loose. If anything it will relegate AD to the paint, leave Myles on the 3 point line where he’ll be in both poor rebounding position and abused on the break. That’s a recipe we got down, don’t need to make a trade to see that.

      Or he’ll just get hurt. Hasn’t played yet. No news when he will. That’s the guy gonna save the season? I highly, highly doubt that.

      I understand the desire to find a magic bullet, replicate what Golden State has accomplished but that’s impossible because of two things: They have been building that team for over a decade now and they have the luxury tax bill to prove it. The Lakers swap pretty much the entire roster in back-to-back summers, won’t consider going heavy into tax territory, if at all, but Buddy Heild and Myles Turner are riding over the ridge like The Riders of Rohan?

      Gimmee a break…

      Still, we’ll likely trade for them (or someone) at some point. Feels like Rob will feel the pressure to do SOMETHING so it looks like he does more than his jog and his hair every day. What that is I couldn’t fathom if I tried. I’m sure it’s super important, though, whatever it is. Because it ain’t building a winner, that much I know.

    • Don’t see why not, he’s a free agent (likely waiting for the right team to call so maybe we have an he said ‘No thanks’?) but we would have to waive someone already on the roster to fit him in. There are five viable options to choose from in that dept.

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    5 Things: I Sense A Trend

    Guess it’s time to start cranking these out. Not going to sugarcoat it, these 5ers will likely follow the same trend I’m already seeing from the Lakers themselves. Defense needs to be on point nightly, need to value possessions, scoring will be difficult if the player isn’t named LeBron James or Anthony Davis. This was an issue anyone could see coming a mile away if you had any experience simply watching basketball. Evidently Rob is just now discovering the value of shooting on a roster that isn’t in the form of a 35+ year old player. Crazy, I know…

    1. Team almost. We almost beat the Clippers. Whee. Didn’t realize we’re giving out participation trophies after the 2nd game of the season now. We didn’t and that’s what the record at the end of the season will reflect. If this was OKC it might be newsworthy. We are not. We have perhaps the greatest player of all time who at 37 going on 38 tied for the game high in minutes played at 37 minutes played (fellow Klutch Kancer, er, Klient Lonnie Walker IV also played 37 minutes, unfortunately). That is what is known as unsustainable and unintelligent. Almost gets you nothing.
    2. AD’s latest, greatest injury concern. That didn’t take too long. For those on “AD Injury Watch 2022!” your wait is over. AD took a hard fall after biting on a Kawhi Leonard fake, fell over the self-same player, and landed hard on his already balky back. This after yet another off-season of great work put in, healthiest he’s ever felt, blah blah blah. Here’s another one for Team Almost: Anthony Davis is almost healthy, which means he’s not, which means he’s thinking about it, which means he’s compromised on the court. You saw it in the last 25-30 seconds of the game: AD gets the ball on the three point line with the Lakers down 4 and a wide open three in front of him! His play to win the game was to begin a meandering dribble inside the arc that wasted another 8 or 9 seconds but did result in a tough LW4 floater that changed an 8 for 20 night into 9 for 21! Lakers lose. The dude needs to get outta his head but I don’t see that happening.
    3. 1-25. Astounding that three players could create such a futile looking stat. Yet here we are. That we…almost…won the game with that stat as a backdrop should be some kind of accomplishment. Russell Westbrook, Kendrick Nunn and Patrick Beverley built themselves a house, 2 car garage and a shed last night. Here’s a prediction: this won’t be the last time we see something like this from the Lakers until the front office finally waves the white flag and admits ineptitude.
    4. Speaking of ineptitude. Remember when we traded Zubac for Beasley and Muscala? Yeah, me too. There is a place in the game for centers who do center things like set good screens, hit shots in the paint and (I know this is crazy because I’m not going to type “shoot threes”) rebound. Zublaca did all that and more last night and was absolutely rock solid for the Clippers last night. Solid like someone you can depend on to cover the paint on defense. Solid like he’s fleet of foot enough to hang with AD on the perimeter. Solid like he had as many blocked shots as our whole team. Sometimes you don’t need flash to get it done. Sometimes you just need solid.
    5. The construction of this roster is worse than last season. I find it astounding to type but it is true. At least last season we had skill and talent. This year we have youngish. In all the wrong ways. Reaves looks like he’s trying but still doesn’t have the skills, body mass or foundation to defend the kind of NBA players he’ll get switched onto. JTA can’t shoot. Matt Ryan can’t do much else and even that he ain’t elite at. This is the consequence of two choices and neither is the Westbrook trade: when we let Dennis Schroder 1.0 and Alex Caruso walk for no compensation whatsoever we didn’t just lose players we lost cap placeholders that gave the front office more tools to improve the teams. We’ve got two MLE signings, Beverley and three guys making a combined $130 million dollars. The cap this season is $123. You won’t get good value on a Beverley trade. You won’t get enough back in a Russ trade, although you hopefully break that massive sum up into a t least 2 players. None of those things are happening this calendar year.

    Buckle up. I expect we’ll have a lot of almost games. Games where we defend stoutly, take care of the ball, and even make our free throws but it won’t be enough because we have a roster full of NBA cast-offs and after thoughts. That ain’t on Russ. That ain’t on AD and his numerous injuries. That ain’t on The King. That’s on Rob and Jeannie.

    Go Lakers.

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    • Nice fiver Jamie,

      i agree with most everything except I thought Walker looked good on both sides of the ball. he only hit a couple of his 3’s but i was encouraged by everything else. i look at this roster and wonder how anyone could believe that a trade is going to elevate us into contender status. i dont think even a trade for Dame would do it, if he went on the market. I seriously fo not want us to trade out first rounders without protections, just to be a little better. Next summer there will be several players with size on the wing that will help. Jemari Grant, a friend to Lebron immediately comes to mind. If done right we could actually build a fecent supporting cast. But knowing Rob, he will panic and that cap space will disappear without elevating the Lakers to true contenders.

      • He looks OK, kinda reminds me of Shannon Brown: loads of athleticism but has yet to put it all together on an NBA court under the bright lights. I’d love for him to figure some things out this season.

      • Thanks dude, I agree about Rob. He’ll make a panic trade that will just leave us with few options for the next 3 seasons.

    • AD injury. I almost feel like he hits the ground so much on purpose just so he can have an excuse for sub-par play or to look like a bad-ass when he miraculously overcomes it & plays well.

      Zubac. I remember folks saying AD would play him off the floor but he more than held his own. Dude seems to get better each year.

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    Nothing positive to say right now. The future looks dim for the season, only mildly brighter beyond. The assemblage of talent this season somehow actually looks worse than last season. At least we got to watch Melo take ridiculous shots once or twice a game. Now we watch meaningless dribbling followed by a bad shot, followed by someone looking at a ref followed by a basket by our opponent.

    So, in honor of the idea, here are 5 things I hope to see going forward:

    1) Less JTA. Love your story, don’t see you having a lot of impact on the court, and that’s that.
    2) AD getting pissed at someone and not cracking jokes on the sideline during losses. Didn’t help last season, won’t help in this one, either. Also, bring back the fro. You shoot better with the fro.
    3) Russ playing within the system. Attack from the designed slots, it has created nice looks for you and you have a little more bounce this season. Play well enough and you could end up ona real contender. Just not here.
    4) Less pasta throwing with the rotation. Want to see what someone is capable of? Play them more than 15 minutes. Nobody gets it going in 6-7 minutes/half.
    5) LBJ needs to play like it’s the playoffs now. Saving yourself for something you won’t be a part of doesn’t make sense. Breaking the penultimate NBA record in a losing season will feel like a waste. Whatever greatness remains, leave it on the court.

    In case you're wondering

    Nothing positive to say right now. The future looks dim for the season, only mildly brighter beyond. The assemblage of talent this season somehow actually looks worse than last season. At least we got to watch Melo take ridiculous shots once or twice a game. Now we watch meaningless dribbling followed by a bad shot, followed by someone looking at a ref followed by a basket by our opponent.

    So, in honor of the idea, here are 5 things I hope to see going forward:

    1) Less JTA. Love your story, don’t see you having a lot of impact on the court, and that’s that.
    2) AD getting pissed at someone and not cracking jokes on the sideline during losses. Didn’t help last season, won’t help in this one, either. Also, bring back the fro. You shoot better with the fro.
    3) Russ playing within the system. Attack from the designed slots, it has created nice looks for you and you have a little more bounce this season. Play well enough and you could end up ona real contender. Just not here.
    4) Less pasta throwing with the rotation. Want to see what someone is capable of? Play them more than 15 minutes. Nobody gets it going in 6-7 minutes/half.
    5) LBJ needs to play like it’s the playoffs now. Saving yourself for something you won’t be a part of doesn’t make sense. Breaking the penultimate NBA record in a losing season will feel like a waste. Whatever greatness remains, leave it on the court.

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    5 Things: Well, that’s that.

    Not much to say. Hard to blame this on Russ. Kings just beat us in all facets.

    1) Only LeBron scored double-digit points. Some of these guys are fighting just to stick in the league. Be hungrier.

    2) Kings got what they want. Coach Ham wants to be a defensive coach. Frank Vogel was a defensive coach. Rob builds defenseless rosters. Something gotta give.

    3) Kings kills is in the paint. Since we missed just under 60% of our shots it let Sacramento get out on the break. A lot. So that’s a fun issue that hopefully doesn’t define us already.

    4) Bad offense. I saw all those nice looking plays in the playbook the other day. Didn’t really see them executed on the floor last night. Sweet.

    4) AD out with whatever, who cares. Dude is fragile. Physically, mentally, who knows maybe spiritually, too. He’ll never “take the mantle” or “grab the reigns” or whatever colloquialism you choose to insert. When your hopes rest on the fine China making it through the 82 game grind you might be pinning the tail wrong.

    5) Russ out. Hopefully he’s Ok but it’s hard not seeing this as just being disgruntled at the idea of coming off the bench. Since we’re a tax payer team Russ really costs us $94 mil. He’s not going to be paid to stay home. They’re not going to rush a trade. Buddy and Myles don’t fix this roster, they just add two more guys who won’t play in the last 5 minutes. This season was lost last summer.

    I’m already seeing the cracks that will become unfillable fissures. We have 3 or 4 glue guys, a couple motor guys and nobody good. When you can only use minimum contracts to fill out 10+ roster spots this is what you get. Want to hope Rob is at least learning something from all this but, honestly, I doubt it.

    Go Lakers.

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    • Last night was an incredibly disappointing game. Losing by 45 points to the Kings, AD not playing due to sore back, Russ pulling a hamstring after just 5 minutes off the bench, poor defense, poor shooting, way too many turnovers. All five starters had -17 to -26 +/-. Not one player had a positive +/- for the night. Not one!

      Outscored by 36 points on threes, outrebounded 55 to 37, outscored in the paint 44-32. Lakers posted worst record in preseason at 1-5. If that doesn’t light a fire under Pelinka, nothing will.

      The truth is the Lakers desperately need to trade Russ and the picks for Turner and Hield. Turner and Hield will provide the Lakers with the size and shooting they need to be a legitimate contender. Beverley, Hield, James, Davis, and Turner.

      Lakers should make trade ASAP. Turner and Hield would become the team’s third and fourth best players immediately, would fix the starting lineup’s size and shooting, and move two starters to the bench, where they really belong.

      It’s obvious there is no other deal out there that is better than Turner and Hield. Lakers need to pull the trigger and get their roster fixed before the start of the season. Waiting until 20 games will put us in a hole we will never recover. Dec 15 equals 1/3 of season gone. Feb 9 equas 2/3 of the season gone. Lakers need to move with urgency right now.

      • It’s not that you’re wrong; it’s that they won’t and are content not to that’s the issue.

        • There’s a point where even the blind man sees and the deaf man hears the writing on the wall. Trade will happen next week, maybe even before start of season.

          • You must love eating crow and being wrong dude. December, at the earliest, hopefully January but honestly won’t be surprised if it doesn’t happen.

            • The Lakers HAVE to trade Russ because if they don’t, they would not have any tradeable contracts other than LeBron and AD.

              Ideally, Lakers want to trade Russ for players with tradeable two-year deals.

              I think Rob ends up trading Russ for inferior package from Utah or SA to keep one pick, which will not be enough to help the Lakers win this year.

            • They don’t. They can just sign free agents, sign and trade guys on the roster now for raises, or absorb guys under contract now into cap space. You are focused on basically two trades as the only way forward, you are wrong. There are many ways this could go, now and on down the line.

            • A trade might happen and it might not. Whether any of us like it or not it appears the Lakers are perfectly willing to burn this season in the name of the brand. This writing is and has been on the wall since we won in the Bubble. It’s plain to see and it’s consistent with their behavior.

    • They don’t have the stone and are more worried about the brand than W’s and Ls.

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    This should be fun…

    Russ off the bench tonight

    This should be fun…

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    • I’d like to see some stretches with PatBev & Dennis in the backcourt together just defensively harassing teams on the perimeter with AD lurking at the rim. Wish Dennis coulda been there for the entire camp…what was up with his visa anyway? This dude a spy or sum sh!t?….lol

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    Lotta guys talking about what coach brings. Whether it be confidence in much maligned players like Westbrook or Schroder, letting AD loose in a way Frank evidently could not, or just getting some end of the bench guys a solid chance to shine it’s clear that, to this early point, Ham is the biggest Lakers acquisition.

    How we do out of the gate is going to be huge. Closing out preseason on a high note can help but the Lakers need to try and kick off this true season with a big win over a semi-reeling (at least internally). Last season the narrative controlled our team. Our poor performances were prophetic for bad basketball and everyone came out tarnished. Nobody will look back on last season as something positive. I know I don’t.

    At any rate, the biggest move the Lakers made wasn’t a massive trade other than sending THT to The Phantom Zone. It was bringing in Ham. Now, personally I wish we had cleaned house a little more thoroughly. I consider Rob to be an awful GM, a terrible evaluator of talent, and poor example of leadership because the buck stops anywhere but on his desk. He is, at best, a yes man who lucked into the Bubble banner. At worst he is utterly inept and will continue to make poor choices that will lead to a full tear down. If we had better draft assets I’d be down. We don’t because of Rob. You can even take the AD trade away because that was Klutch as much as Rob. Same for LeBron when Magic was in charge.

    Is Ham enough? We’ll see. Preseason has been encouraging but that’s not a good predictor of NBA success. Only winning is. So let’s keep these good times rolling. Ham will either lead this team to something the experts don’t see but I can at least imagine.

    That’s not a prediction but a hope. I don’t think we’ll trade Russ until February, if then. I don’t know who will start or finish games but I know coach is smart enough not to say something about finding a permanent rotation and sticking with it. There are some encouraging signs, albeit few of them. As a modern Lakers fan you gotta take what you can get.

    What can Ham do for you?

    Lotta guys talking about what coach brings. Whether it be confidence in much maligned players like Westbrook or Schroder, letting AD loose in a way Frank evidently could not, or just getting some end of the bench guys a solid chance to shine it’s clear that, to this early point, Ham is the biggest Lakers acquisition.

    How we do out of the gate is going to be huge. Closing out preseason on a high note can help but the Lakers need to try and kick off this true season with a big win over a semi-reeling (at least internally). Last season the narrative controlled our team. Our poor performances were prophetic for bad basketball and everyone came out tarnished. Nobody will look back on last season as something positive. I know I don’t.

    At any rate, the biggest move the Lakers made wasn’t a massive trade other than sending THT to The Phantom Zone. It was bringing in Ham. Now, personally I wish we had cleaned house a little more thoroughly. I consider Rob to be an awful GM, a terrible evaluator of talent, and poor example of leadership because the buck stops anywhere but on his desk. He is, at best, a yes man who lucked into the Bubble banner. At worst he is utterly inept and will continue to make poor choices that will lead to a full tear down. If we had better draft assets I’d be down. We don’t because of Rob. You can even take the AD trade away because that was Klutch as much as Rob. Same for LeBron when Magic was in charge.

    Is Ham enough? We’ll see. Preseason has been encouraging but that’s not a good predictor of NBA success. Only winning is. So let’s keep these good times rolling. Ham will either lead this team to something the experts don’t see but I can at least imagine.

    That’s not a prediction but a hope. I don’t think we’ll trade Russ until February, if then. I don’t know who will start or finish games but I know coach is smart enough not to say something about finding a permanent rotation and sticking with it. There are some encouraging signs, albeit few of them. As a modern Lakers fan you gotta take what you can get.

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    • I’m going into this with no expectations. There’s so much that has to fall into place just for us to be middle of the pack. D.Ham seems to be a good pick but who da hell knows? Not sure if this season in this situation is the best opportunity for him to show his talents. Even going forward past this season, we’re in a tough spot considering the roster construction, lack of assets, an aging Lebron, and friggin Rob still in his job.

      • I am still kind of semi-shock regarding Rob’s extension. Just goes to show how much Jeannie values personality/familiarity over actual skill.

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    5 Things: Lakers win first preseason game in 2 seasons

    Frankly, it’s not about the wins or losses but the habits that are formed in preseason. You want to see your best players looking ready to play their best. You want to see role-players who look hungry when put into a situation where that role expands. Above all you want to see the team play hard and just compete at a high level. All those boxes got checked last night.

    1. Davis looking dominant. Between his legs still coming back into shape from the bubble-2020-21 season grind to his wrist injury it has been awhile since AD looked like AD. This preseason looks different. He’s moving better, playing stronger, and he’s looking smooth in every facet of the game. The best indicator of his legs and arms being right in terms of shooting has been his return to elite status from the free throw line. Davis imposed his will on whomever the Warriors sent his way scoring inside and out, making plays on the defensive end, and generally showing everyone he’s back. Bring that game into the regular season, stay healthy, and the narrative around this team changes instantly.
    2. Kendrick Nunn making everyone a believer. I love how Kendrick has showed up this preseason. Looking fully healed from The Bone Bruise That Would Not Heal we are seeing exactly what the Lakers were missing all of last season. I love the idea of Nunn coming off the bench and being the first option in that unit as opposed to Russ or Beverley. Nunn can get his own shot, is excellent on catch and shoot plays, and is decent enough on defense to be included in potential closing line ups. As the first option of the bench unit he can just go out and play freely and get buckets without worrying about stepping on anyone’s role.
    3. Both Two-Ways should focus on improving in the G league. I like the potential in both Christie’s and Pippen Jr’s game, but I don’t need to see them work out how to make it work on the game’s biggest stage this season. Both are too raw for significant roles on the real team, for now, but could certainly see some spot duty later this season. Pippen is crafty with the ball and, like his Pop, has a solid all-around game minus the elite size/skill combo. Christie has the tools and mind set of a potential elite defender but just needs to get reps in everything we’re doing which is exactly what the G league is for. Both can use time just getting shots up at real game speed.
    4. Thomas Bryant looking free and fiery. I just love how Thomas Bryant attacks the game of basketball. I well remember all the talk about his skills and abilities while he languished on the Laker bench only to see him get away for nothing (a common theme for the Laker front office) and sign with Washington. Back again but with some NBA pedigree and a fire that missing most of a season (but with a summer of work) gives a player, Bryant is the best player to start, in my opinion. It gives the first unit someone who wants to get down the court on the break every play. That’s not LeBron, anymore, and I want AD in the paint on defense as much as possible for altering shots and rebounding. Bryant is fast, he can score in a variety of ways in the paint with athletic finishes or nifty jump hooks and he has a three ball to help in the half court. Jones just has a less dynamic game and he picks up fouls. Fast. Let him be a solid addition to the second unit and let’s go.
    5. Wenyan Gabriel trying to stick. I like Wenyan’s hustle and he has the physical tools to be an impactful defender. He had some real nice plays last night but his attention to detail can wane, often in key moments when he gets caught looking. He’s still raw (77 NBA games played in total, not even a full season’s worth) and he needs the right role to give him the best chance to succeed, however. Is that on this team? We need guys with size and he’s quick enough to hang with most wings. I can see him being the primary backup to AD or I can see him as the 15th guy on the bench. He doesn’t have a great stroke but he’s athletic. I would put him in with the best second unit guys and see what he has early but could see his minutes go to someone with a more developed and specialized skillset (Ryan, Christie or Harrison, should he make the team over Ryan).

    Kudos to Matt Ryan showing everyone who can shoot. Took 9 threes, made six and hit a couple from the stripe. Shaquille Harrison is making more money (due to service time) and is a far better defender but Ryan has the ability to suck a defense out of the paint when he’s hot, as he was last night. We’re talking about the last guy on the roster unless Gabriel is waived, which I don’t see happening but certainly could, so it’s not a team altering choice. Basically comes down to what coach Ham values more: shooting or defense.

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    • Nice 5 Jamie, I like a Bryant as well. But AD has seen the majority of his minutes at the 5. In a way it makes sense because LeBron hasn’t looked good defending the wing the last couple of years. I think we will bet a better view of what coach Ham is thinking over the next couple of games. As for Ryan, that was a great breakout for him. If can bring that over the next couple of games I could see the Lakers signing him to a non guaranteed contract where they have a couple of months to evaluate him. They could always cut him if a favorable trade arises. Shooting is one of the team’s biggest needs and if he can shoot consistently it wouldn’t be any worse than trading for Buddy. Plus he is 6’ 7” which doesn’t hurt either. As for Nunn, while I expected him to be good but he has exceeded my expectations. For a guy that has missed an entire year, he looks in mid season form. Heck he has looked even better then I thought he could. I also like him off the bench, but if we aren’t making enough 3’s early on I wouldn’t hesitate to add him to the starting 5. I havve no idea how many games this group will win in the loaded West. But if healthy they will play hard and should be an entertaining group to watch.

      • While I can see the logic of AD at the 5 I have a hard time seeing that work for a full 48. Not really because of Davis but because of how small the rest of the team is. Starting a big moves everyone down a slot and increases both the starting line up size and also the overall line up size. Still, could see Ham deploy AD, James, and 3 guards. Next two games will provide a little insight.

        • We saw how we struggled to win points in the paint and rebounds with AD and LeBron and three guards. Just more reasons to trade for Turner. We get great positional size advantage back and can go small or big.

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    5 Things: The Kids Were...Alright

    Scrubs vs. Starters was a perhaps unexpected plot twist to the preseason. LeBron and Russell rested for the sake of rest and AD missed time due to his balky back. After assuring the world that, were the games to matter, AD would play, coach Ham trotted out a who’s who of bench guys on this iteration of Laker basketball. For the most part they floundered against the superior starting line up that Minnesota deployed but still some players shined and it was good for all of them to get the kind of run they just won’t see in an NBA game.

    1. My opinion to start Thomas Bryant remains unchanged. The dude plays hard, has a better skillset than Jones, and just looks hungrier. Touching the next level only to sustain a serious injury looks like it’s lit a fire under TB and he made the most of his extended run last night. While he missed his 2 three point FGAs (a theme shared by basically the whole squad) he was active on defense and aggressive in the paint even when he was going up against Gobert. His aggression and attack-mode earned him multiple trips to the stripe which helped us keep pace early in the game. Jones is probably the better shot blocker in terms of racking up the stat itself but Bryant is his equal on defense because of his superior nimbleness and mobility. I’m sure we’ll get another look at Jones as starter and perhaps he’ll come back with something better. If the choice were up to me and I had to make it today, Bryant would get the nod.
    2. Lakers offensive rebounding was great! Unfortunately it was a byproduct of a slew of missed shots in the 2nd and 3rd quarters. Threes or twos, didn’t matter, Laker youngins missed a grip of shots of all shapes and sizes. Again, is this a three alarm bell for the season? Not really, but it does spotlight an issue we all had going in to this campaign which is the new Lakers are not known for their scoring penchant.
    3. Lonnie Walker IV’s debut. LW4 got some solid minutes in starting hot and cooling off. Hit hist first three and went on to miss the next 6, I believe, and didn’t look to aggressive attacking the basket. Coming back from lower body injuries is always a process though so really it was just nice to see him get up and down.
    4. Turnover leads to turnovers. This is basically the second straight season the Lakers have over-hauled the roster. It’s also the third in which key members of a banner winning team were let go without much reason or rhyme. It shows in a stat like turnovers. If it takes a few weeks to months for guys to get truly familiar with one another, and you’re not a consummate pro, the chemistry side of the ball can be a long time coming. The Lakers are averaging a grip of turnovers to start which isn’t great because turnovers were a key part in our general undoing last season. Can’t blame LeBron or Russ, either, they didn’t play. I can handle turnovers in preseason but they need to start coming down into the 110-13ish/game range. Which is a little above average. 12ish is elite and I just don’t expect that from guys who take risky passes in both James and Westbrook.
    5. AD’s injury. Has to get mentioned even though coach Ham went out of his way to try and make it a non-issue. He should take a Popovichian route and deflect with one/two word answers. In reality this kind of injury is common but Lakers fans have AD injury PTSD in a big way so any minor injury is certain to be semi-overblown amongst the fan base. Goal is to get everyone through preseason healthy and ready. That ain’t changed.

    Hoping to see more starters from here on out. Would like to win at least one game, not because it’ll have any bearing on the standings but because of the spiritual significance. The fans need a W to calm their hyperbole down a bit. Still, just coming out of preseason healthy will be good enough for me. Just would be nice if there was a shred of momentum to the start of the season.

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    5 Things: Step by Step

    While not the outcome Laker fans are ready for (a win) the team showed a lot more of what it can do last night against a top-rated opponent.  Yes, Phoenix is in a state of semi-upheaval (Sarver Gate, Crowder Gate, Ayton Grumpy) but they still looked solid for the half they played the key players in.  That would be the first half.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnGBJAnYA9E
    1. Lakers go small. The starting lineup of Reaves, Beverley, Westbrook, James and Gabriel was fine. Little small for my tastes but that’s how one rolls when AD has back issues but more on that on down the line. Reaves must have wanted to prove me wrong after the last 5er downplayed his playmaking skills. True Grit (my personal moniker for him) racked up 9 dimes to three turnovers which is what’s called setting the table proper. Reaves didn’t force his offense and was content setting up his guys all night long. Having Beverley play alongside him helps stabilize things. I like how Pat just makes the play in front of him. Open shot, take it. Guy open somewhere and you have a hand in your face, move the ball. Communicate on D, get results. If AD was the 5 in this lineup I could see it being our closing 5. Still prefer a more traditional look with either Jones or Bryant to start but if this is how coach rolls to start the season I won’t be mad.
    2. Starters shot the three ball well, bench notsomuch. Except for Nunn the bench struggled with it’s three point scoring all night long. Generally the bench has just struggled to score. Rob filled out the Laker bench this season with rangy guys who can kind of slash to the rim and Ham seems to have not unlocked who should be slashing and who should be shooting. Some of these issues won’t be as magnified when the minute distribution normalizes but the bench is already looming as one of the bigger issues.
    3. That LeBron is OK at basketball. One game removed from going O-fer LeBron looked like LeBron. Who knows how he’ll stand up to the 82 game grind but his tune up looks pretty solid. He’s not the two-way force he was in the past but if we can get a defensive lineup around him I like our shot against a lot of teams. Elite teams are going to be a handful…but they are for everyone. That’s why they’re elite.
    4. Kendrick Nunn lighting it up. Loved Nunn off the bench in the microwave role. In my opinion, at this early stage, it’s the best use of his skillset and he can be the first option in a lot of the lineups when James or Davis are out. Feels like he can be close to a point-a-minute guy which serves us well off the bench. Bringing Nunn off the bench allows Reaves to be the glue guy (which he got props from The King himself on post game) and possibly start Beverley to help on D. Not sure I want to bail on Jones or Bryant starting yet but…
    5. Neither Jones or Bryant is grabbing that torch and running with it. Both players came into camp talking about seizing the moment and such. Still waiting on that one. I’m sure Damien worked on his three point shot over the summer but it’s not falling yet. I really think he’s the better off the bench center of the two mainly because that unit, in theory, will run more of the system and less of the “give the ball to a superstar and clear out” offense. Knowing your number is called on a specific play or what you’re supposed to be doing on a given set could be the key to best utilizing Jones and his athletic skillset. In the end, I’d rather station the kid closer to the hoop for rebounds and put backs, he’s shown to be able to excel in that role, no need to reinvent the wheel if it ain’t rolling smoothly. Bryant can function as a release valve for cut off dribble drives or broken plays. He’s quick enough of foot to get back under the hoop from the corner three spot if it looks like a shot is going up from someone else and his shot is just more polished and reliable.

    All in all, an improvement. Still would like to see more execution and poise from all of our bench guys, especially guys who are unlikely to make the team. You want a shot somewhere else? No better place to get some shine on your game than here. Go get it and bring it home. Go Lakers.

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    • One thing to keep in mind Jamie of that 2nd unit besides the centers only Nunn and Toscanini Anderson are rotation players. Everyone is either g league or camp fodder.

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    5 Things: "Raggedy" -mongoslade

    Well, that didn’t make things any better. Lakers came out OK in the first half (with what looked like actual in-game rotations, for the most part) and then put the kids in and watched them get blown out. It’s getting hard for some Laker fans to keep their emotions out of the process of early evaluations for a lot of reasons. Last season’s debacle, no Russ trade, and not really an inspiring summer that makes one feel it’s close to turning around. Not surprisingly the good people who paid money to see this left grumpy and let the team know it.

    1. The Trio looked OK. AD looked solid, Russ looked like Russ and LeBron looked like a guy in his 20th NBA season taking his time getting his legs going. Nothing to report here, preseason vibes all around. I will say that when the young guys are getting blown out and the “team leaders” are hooting it up on the bench it does set a tone.
    2. The center question. I came away hoping to see Bryant as the starting center, just think he’ll open up the floor more. DJ is serviceable but I just trust Bryant’s shot more at this point. If we want to develop Jones into a stretch three, fine, but let’s do it off the bench in what should be a more orchestrated play calling environment when James and Davis are off the floor. No need for him to learn next to LeBron and he’s a better dunker which will open up the screen and roll game for Schroder.
    3. Nunn might also be better coming off the bench. Mainly because we need a bonafide scorer when James and AD sit. Swap him and Reaves or Beverley and I think the starting five will be fine. Taking Reaves off the bench unit and into the starting five shouldn’t be an issue, he played with everyone last season and will help that unit gel quicker. Nunn and Reaves shouldn’t really be tasked with running the offense, Nunn might get there but let the sophomore get into a solid role mindset and do well before adding to his workload. Both had way too many TOs last night for their role on the team.
    4. Heart was an issue last season, looks like it could be again. Everyone and their keyboard railed on coach Vogel for losing the team since they didn’t play with enough heart or passion. Fast forward to the new coach, new team, new season and…same as it ever was. This part of the game isn’t learned, you bring it from within. You can’t coach passion into guys, they either want to dominate or they want to play. Looks like we have more players than dominators, albeit in a small sample size. Mainly this looked like a bunch of guys who have played a weekend’s worth of pick up hoops in San Diego and gone through some sets the coach wants to run. Hoping for more cohesion as time goes on. Leery of the issue of heart being something of an internal/cultural issue, though.
    5. Young guys with something to prove showed they might not really be ready. Scrubs on scrubs and ours got wasted for 24 minutes. Out played, out hustled, out everything’d. Looked way too much like last season, hence the booing. If you’re here, you’re under 27, and on a minimum deal this is sort of your last, best shot to re-write your narrative. Carpe diem, young bloods, carpe diem.

    Still, it was the first game and the guys who will be playing more looked OK. Not going to read all that much into this other than noting that utterly rebuilding the team every summer just isn’t the way to build a contender. This is a square 1 team, no need to think of this squad as the “semi-recent champs” but rather the “we have a couple really, really good guys who were part of a never-to-be-replicated banner and guys who couldn’t get a better deal” Lakers. Time will tell what they’re made of but the first glimpse was pretty underwhelming.

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    5 Things: Preseason

    We should all go back and look at what we posted and wrote about preseason last summer. What many considered to be a non-factor, essentially an obstacle to the regular season and the forthcoming romp through the regular season en route to the playoffs, turned out to be a harbinger of doom. The Lakers loafed through preseason and showed everyone they weren’t done. Loafing, that is. They proceeded to loaf their way through the regular season and right out of the playoff and subsequently playin picture altogether. The casualties of that loafing about were basically relegated to one man: Frank Vogel. The coach has been the biggest change from last year to this. Out is coach Vogel, in is coach Ham. The fringes of the roster changed as well. Other than that, not all that much changed for the Lakers which means the biggest thing that has to change for success to be enabled is the attitude of the players themselves.

    1. Respect what preseason is for. A good or bad preseason doesn’t guarantee a good season nor does it doom a team to a bad one. But it does have it’s place in a complete NBA season and it is an important one. It’s where the foundation of what the team can accomplish is laid down. It’s where habits, good and bad are formed. It’s where somebody hoping to make the team can get a shot to show what they can do with an expanded role or next to elite players. It’s where a guy who worked on a deficiency all summer can test it out in a NBA-level environment, not just in the gym. For vets it’s a tune up, especially for a vet like LeBron whom there are no more questions about is he or is he not prepared. He is. I don’t need to see the Lakers win out during preseason or play the Trio big minutes but I do want to see it used properly, unlike last season.
    2. Move on from the summer. This one applies to, well, all of us. The team, the fans, and especially the media. Everyone was so invested in what a Russell Westbrook could look like they never imagined, or seemingly planned for, a reality where Westbrook was still a Laker today. He is and likely will be until closer to February and possibly the entire season. Since we have his Bird Rights it shouldn’t be inconceivable he re-ups with us, all things considered. Whatever happens in that scenario it’s well past time we all just moved on. If a trade happens we’ll see who it’s for and recalibrate but I’m not giving anymore “OMG WHAT ABOUT THIS TRADE?!?!” articles or posts the time of day from here on out. Not until January 2023. For all intents and purposes, this is the Laker team and I’m rolling and rooting from them. Like I do.
    3. Stay healthy. The absolute #1 goal of any preseason in all sport is for the team to get through it as healthy and intact as possible. This then reapplies to the regular season and once again for the playoffs. Rinse, wash repeat, as they say. For the Lakers this has a double-edge to it, though. We need to see Russ, AD and LeBron get reps with the new guys. They need it, the new guys need it, and it was one of the biggest aspects of last preseason that doomed the regular season so completely. We need to find that balance and get everyone some time on the floor together. Mini camp in San Diego ain’t enough.
    4. Buy in to the new coach. Everyone is saying all the right things. It’s what this time of year is for: paying lip service to all the great moves, the new things the coach wants and so on. In fact, we heard the exact same words coming out of people’s mouths this time last season, too. We need more than lip service and glad handing. We need buy in and it needs to show itself on the floor. Saying and doing are vastly different and nothing proved that more than the Lakers 2021-22 NBA regular season. It wasn’t until a few vets got real in post game comments after it was much too late to do anything about it that you heard that if the other team just played harder they would beat the Lakers. Unacceptable and inexcusable. Coach Vogel was a patsy, a fall guy if you will, for an entire organization’s failures from the owner to the last player on the bench. That cannot happen again.
    5. Have fun. Given the somber summer we just went through, the drudgery that was last season, and the fact that Father Time is undefeated it would be easy to mope into the season. Don’t fall prey to that trap, this is sport, it’s a game, the players are all pretty good at playing it they just need to make it work as a cohesive unit. Go out there and have fun, smile, nothing erases bad memories like good new ones so let that be the thing that guides you into the regular season from here on out. That’s another one that goes for everyone, fans and team alike. No NBA roster is perfect, stop worrying about making the perfect trade, listen to the vets and coaches and just go hoop man!

      We’ll learn a few things about this Laker team tonight and more as preseason moves on. Hoping for a lot of good things tonight but mostly just to see how competitive we can be and for everyone to get through healthy. Go Lakers.

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    • Great fiver, Jamie. Time to start rooting for this team as it is, including Russ. Hoping Ham is for real. We’ve always said this was mainly about a healthy Bron and AD. Well, we have that and hopefully a dynamic young coach to keep the team together and start lrearning to win. Go, Lakers!

      • No offense Tom but I do have a hard time buying into the idea that you’re rooting for Russ and this team to succeed. That’s based on everything you’ve said and written for awhile now, not what I know your unconditional love of the team is.

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    Dude just inoed a 2 year wxtension w/raise. Always nice to see ez-Lakers get paid.

    Congrats to Larry Nance Jr.

    Dude just inoed a 2 year wxtension w/raise. Always nice to see ez-Lakers get paid.

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    5 Things: Come Together

    Training camp is here and with it come all the regular platitudes and exultations that come with not having played a game that means something. If you tuned into Lakers/NBA Media Day 2022 you got to hear the infamous “we’re going to be a defense-first team” or some such repeated ad nauseum. Of course Rob will be diligently working the phones looking for that perfect Russell Westbrook trade, you can definitely believe him when he says that. Darvin Ham is large and in charge, for the most part, and for the time being. We’ll see what comes of the situation after 10 or so games. Still, if you’re a die-hard Lakers fan like myself, media day meant one thing: we got through summer! No, there was not a Westbrook trade that reinvigorated the fan base. There was a THT trade which brought in Patrick Beverley which resulted in this quote from Pat regarding how he and Russ found common ground. It is absolute gold: “We went on this boat ride, you feel me? It was just us two. It was real intimate,” Beverley said. “It was 2,000 candles, you feel me? He landed in a helicopter. I came in one of my underwater vessels. We talked three hours over wine. He had a two-Michelin-star chef come pull up, cook some steaks. I had my chef pull up and make the desserts. And that’s how we got to where we are now.” Classic.

    1. Sooooo that Westbrook guy is still here. Implausibly, but not impossibly, Westbrook is still a Laker. For now. I believe Rob when he says he’s trying to improve the roster. Just that’s happening completely on his terms which means no deals past next summer and if it’s for both picks it has to be All Star level talent coming back. That means Russ is here until the calendar turns over to 2023, in my opinion. Now…”will he get dealt by the trading deadline?” is the next big question on that front. I’m not so sure. Some things have to fall into place for me to buy into that beyond giving it a cursory 50/50 chance of going down. There is the compelling idea of re-tooling the roster with cap space and draft picks between draft day and the opening week of free agency. I won’t go into all of the ins and outs of that here because, well, this is about training camp and the guys on the roster as I type this now. In terms of Westbrook’s role, which is the new hot topic du jour, you can forget about him coming off the bench or being sent home. It. Will. Not. Happen. Not for 20 actual games or more. The Lakers have long prided themselves of being the elephant’s graveyard of NBA superstars. Russell Westbrook, for all his flaws, is still a superstar talent…in the eyes of the Laker front office. They will treat him as such; yes I know, coach Ham said everything would be determined by competition and what works best but that’s as truthful as the Rockets talking about having a defense-first identity. It’s the kind of thing that simply must be said on media day because, you know, that’s basically what media day is for. Russell will start, he may even finish games and that will be the current Laker modus operandi because it is the historical Lakers modus operandi. Russell will take minutes away from guys like Reaves, Nunn and even Swider because that is how the Lakers treat superstars aging out of the league. Gird your loins and prepare your soul, for that is what will be happening barring an O-fer start reaching Mike Brown levels. Again.
    2. The new coaching staff. I think everyone but Phil Handy is gone from the Vogel era. Sheed did not make it onto an NBA bench preferring his current gig or maybe not wanting to taint himself with this hot mess. Regardless it’s basically a whole new crew coaching the Lakers. Sounds like they started things off in the film room laying down expectations and ground rules and all without showing any clips of the Bucks kicking booty. Smart on that one, I say, because it shows some respect for the current crop of Lakers and their ability to get on the same page and show up to work together. They know what Giannis can do, they’ve all experienced it first-hand, or will in the case of the rookies. Other than that we’re just hearing what every coach says before the games matter. This is the calm before the storm and I’m sure we’ll get more candid comments from coach Ham after some wins and losses. All in all, for where we’re at in the season the coaching staff is doing great!
    3. Those that remain. I’m talking Nunn, Reaves, and Gabriel. The guys not named Russell Westbrook, LeBron James, or Anthony Davis. Hearing that Nunn played five on five was awesome. It really was, it gave me a lot of hope I didn’t expect when I heard it because it does give Ham an option beyond the 34, going on 35 year old Beverley, Schroder (who is basically Westbrook lite) and throwing Reaves in at PG just because. As I said above I expect at least 1/4 of the season to go by before a move like that is made. Still, having the option if Nunn can play and play well, will put the right kind of pressure on the situation to make it more possible should the need arise. Reaves will be looking to build off a decent opening salvo to his career. Gabriel will likely struggle to make the team unless he can show some solid worth backing up the 4 spot, maybe some light 5 duty. I feel like we need guys who can shoot and it’s not like Wenyen is a real difference maker on D.
    4. The new guys. Lot of new dudes, whole lot. From Patrick Beverley to Dwayne Bacon there are, once again, more new Lakers than old. While this is nto the ideal way to build championship chemistry on the roster this overhaul absolutely had to happen. Gone are Kent Bazemore, Wayne Ellington, Trevor Ariza and the walking/talking tree known as DeAndre Jordan (and others). Out with the old and in with the new takes on a whole different meaning when you look at the roster from last season vs. this season’s roster. We got younger, more athletic but also less skilled and still with a lack of outside scoring expertise. More questions than expectations with this new crop of Lakers. Can Lonnie Walker IV take a step? Can Swider shoot well enough his lack of defense allows him to carve out a role on a team with banner hopes? Will Max Christie play much at all? That Dennis Schroder guy will be back at some point, how will he be used, if much at all? Early preseason games will likely feature a lot of these guys so hoping from some form of clarity at that time.
    5. Anthony Davis and LeBron. All of the above matters but those two are where it’s at. I’ve seen a lot of people expressing a myriad of opinions about how much they want to see AD play this season: 50 games, 60 games, all the games. For me, if he plays in 70 games and we manage him so that he has gas in the tank for the playoffs I’ll be to the moon. Same goes for LeBron except I could see him edging lower, closer to 60-65 games. Now, how does that affect our playoff hopes is an entirely different equation. No good saving a man for a party he won’t be attending. The Lakers need to reverse the bad pattern they established very early last season: don’t lose to bad teams. Multiple times you heard a post game session with one Laker or another bemoaning how the other team just had to play harder. That’s not a culture allowed only by Frank Vogel, who had clearly lost the team by December, that’s also on your two best players and I throw Russ in on that one, too. You’re being paid millions of dollars to show up to play a game, you can do more than just lead by example. Get in guys’ faces for blowing rotations, get on Russ for missing layups, get on LeBron and AD for lazy length of the court plays that are nigh impossible to make and so on. Nothing of worth is given in life, it must be earned, it must be taken and that won’t come easy.

    So it begins. My starting five prediction: Bryant, AD, LBJ, Reaves, Russ. Second unit will be Jones, JTA, PatBev, Nunn and Schroder. Closing line up will be Davis, James, Russ and our best two guys, whomever that may be. That’s for at least the first 20 games or so. Barring injuries and without having seen anyone play. Coach Ham has his work cut out for him but if we have health on our side it’ll already have a better look than last season’s team did. Go Lakers.

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    Not sure what that’s about other than him wanting out of the hot mess that will likely be Phoenix this season. Brooklyn could offer something based on Seth or Patty, wouldn’t be surprised to see him end up in Miami. I can also see Atlanta come with
    something based around some of their expiring deals and maybe a decent pick.

    Crowder wants out

    Not sure what that’s about other than him wanting out of the hot mess that will likely be Phoenix this season. Brooklyn could offer something based on Seth or Patty, wouldn’t be surprised to see him end up in Miami. I can also see Atlanta come with
    something based around some of their expiring deals and maybe a decent pick.

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    • Lakers traded THT too early, that might have worked for Talen and the 2027 and been better across the board for the roster. C’est la vie.

      • Still, hard to see Suns trading him in-conference even for a player with upside, albeit limited upside. I expect he’ll go East.

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