JAMIE SWEET’S ‘5 THINGS
Lakers’ Post Game Reports & Analysis
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Read MoreToo little, too late. After digging themselves into a 25 point hole the Lakers came all the way back to tie the game in the 4th quarter only to see it ultimately slip away. Once our again our 4th quarter execution looked more frenzied than focused and our defense wasn’t able to get the job done early. All in all the loss to the Knicks guaranteed that the road trip will be one with a losing record and tonight the Lakers are trying to avoid going 1-4 on the 5 game roadie.
- If only we were fixing holes and cracks but it really feels like this team is treading water on a nightly basis. The injuries, new personnel, new offensive system and the new roles for AD and LBJ are all tough orders in the shortened training camp era and for Frank to have seamlessly implemented and integrated all those things off the bat would have been amazing. I’d settle for just one of those things above working and, really, none of them are, yet. Hard to see how it gets better other than from within. Had we changed LeBron and AD’s roles alone, kept most of the roster, that feels like it would have been an easy integration for the core squad from last season to adapt to. However we instead brought in 11 new faces, one a ball dominant guard, so that added a wrinkle to everything in that while AD and LBJ were learning their new roles at their new positions they also have to learn how to get the most out of an entirely new roster. Adding Russ in and of itself wouldn’t have been such a slog but then Frank also added a new offense so not only are Russ, AD and LeBron adjusting to one another, new roles, new teammates they’re also learning a new way to score. Then came the injuries. While not an excuse, it feels like the Lakers chose the most difficult path to get back to title contention they possibly could have.
- That first quarter… The one thing this team does consistently is give up big quarters to, well, just about any team. Sometimes it’s the 3rd, it’s also happened in the 4th, last night happened to be to open the game. Regardless, no matter the opponent, the Lakers have a rep already of giving up 30+ point quarters and they usually come when we can’t throw it in the ocean. I don’t know what to say about this anymore, we seem to lose our focus and execution for a solid 10-15 minutes/game. If this trend continues it will be the defining characteristic to this Laker team as it makes it almost impossible to find a way to win consistently if you’re in the habit of giving up 1 monster quarter/game.
- THT needs to find something that works consistently. We got a donut from THT last night and, if he’s going to be the starter and we’re going to see less of Kent Bazemore who is the better defender, he needs to bring a lot more on both ends. He was totally ineffective and had one of his most unproductive outings to date as he missed every shot he took, didn’t get to the line, and led the team with a -18 +/-. While some of that are the lineups he plays with but, as a starter, he needs to be a lot more consistent.
- Lakers 3 point shooting woes continue. Other than Westbrook (3-6) and AD (1-2) the Lakers struggled mightily from three. It wasn’t like the Knicks shut us down, we just missed shots and a decent number of those came in the final five minutes of the game when any kind of score would have helped but empty possessions guaranteed the loss. I get it, the modern NBA is infatuated with the three point shot, 3 points is worth more than 2, and so on. the name of the game is still who ash the most points on the board, regardless of where they came from. When you have a player like AD and Russ it’s astounding to me we don’t run late-game offense through them more adeptly. Our late-game offense has consisted far too much of the laziest shot in basketball: the early shot clock three. Had we gotten a bucket or two from down low, run something through AD on the block I think we would have generated much higher quality shot attempts. For the Lakers I do not believe the answer lies solely in more, or volume, but in being diligent in ensuring the quality of the three point shot is high. That means doing more than passing the ball once or twice around the horn and jacking it up. That’s lazy basketball, not winning basketball.
- Hey, we’re valuing the ball, though! Take away that first quarter and the Lakers would have had fewer than 10 turnovers last night. You can’t do that, though, and so we still ended up with a very manageable 12. That, beyond anything else, was what helped us claw our back into this game. That and a tighter defensive execution scheme in regards to our zone. Keeping turnovers low with Russ (2nd in the league currently in terms of turnovers/game) and LeBron (averages a round 5/game for his career) is a key to us winning consistently. Happy to see that the team is trying to at least create shots every time down and not coughing it up. Clean up a few more of those and we’re on our way in terms of getting the most out of time with the rock.
The bets we can hope is to come home a .500 team 20 games into the season. The trends are plain for all to see: play down to opponents, give up one monster quarter/game, lack of focus or intensity overall, especially on defense. LeBron coming back or trading for player X might help a little but we’re still a couple weeks away from even being able to trade guys we signed over the summer. Plus, THT has been pretty inconsistent thus far and I have a hard time seeing a team giving up an impact player for a project at his price. Lakers need to find the solution from within and the sooner the better.
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Lakers are tied for giving up the 2nd most PPG along with Charlotte: 113.1. That leaves only Memphis (114.1 ppg) at the bottom. Need to find a way to get it done better on D, nothing else to say really.
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We can’t ‘tread water’ until Dec 15 to trade anybody but THT or Jan 15 to trade him or the Feb 10 trade deadline. We’ll drown by then. That means everything hinges on Nunn and Ariza finally playing and Reaves returning. Those three should replace many of minutes that THT, Bazemore, and Jordan are currently getting.
Until we can make a trade or sign a buyout free agent, this will hopefully become our starting lineup and depth chart:
PG: WESTBROOK, Nunn, Rondo
SG: BRADLEY, Reaves, Monk, Ellington
SF: JAMES, Horton-Tucker, Bazemore
PF: ARIZA, Anthony,
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Aloha Jamie, nice post. The Lakers demonstrated why I wasn’t feeling exceedingly optimistic after the Pistons comeback. Our energy is a rollercoaster ride that I really don’t have an explanation for. We got to see the best and worst versions of Russ, his play helped dig that first half hole and he helped dig us out of it in the 2nd half. It’s rare that a teams comes back from 25 down and wins. The comeback takes so much energy that there isn’t much left in crunch time. We have won only 5 first downs quarters this year. That’s just unacceptable. Injuries, new players and a new system is certainly problematic and I except difficulties due to those issues but there is just no excuse for lack of effort. I really don’t know how to solve it.
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Read MoreAlmost 17 years to the day was the infamous Malice at the Palace the Lakers and Pistons got together for an impromptu, unscheduled, old-timey re-enactment. While last night didn’t turn into a “one player against the world” kind of thing it was, by far, the most intense on-court brawl in a long time. At the time the Lakers were down and sinking fast. The Pistons came out after the scrum and scored the first bucket for a 17 point lead. Everything started to change after that and hopefully it’s a change for the better and on a permanent basis.
- The LeBron James question. Both in the national media and on our Gerald Glassford’s Lakers Fast Break podcast the question has been raised: is Father Tim finally sinking it’s claws into LeBron James. The question is legit as James has been dealing with an abdominal strain that took an extended amount of time off the court to heal, and even when he did play nearly half his shots were from three point land. I actually thought the beginning of the Pistons game showed us that the true LeBron remains. While he was getting hit and slapped on a bunch of his drives he was more balanced in his shot repertoire. 1-3 from three but also three shots in the paint with one midrange step back that he drilled. I am of the opinion that James still has something in the tank and that he’s easing his way into the regular season. This is not only common for players his age who generally play more of a role than lead but it’s been LeBron’s traditional approach for some seasons now. The King will be fine if he can avoid contact injuries and get time on the court with the team. Now, he may end up getting a suspension as a result of his retaliation but that’s up to the League office.
- Anthony Davis and Russell Westbrook found a way. It sure wasn’t pretty but wrestling with a pig never is. Let’s be honest, Detroit’s plan was to junk up the game from the start and the number of free throws shot, the fight that added a 15 minute delay, and the overall feel of the game. Detroit has never been known to field a finesse team, it’s just not in the state of Michigan’s DNA. Piston teams are hard-driving, gritty and play in your grill. It’s why players like Bill Laimbeer and “Big” Ben Wallace are revered there to the degree they are. It took the best quarter of Russ as a Laker and a return to form for AD to pull this one out. Davis swatted 5 shots, Russ started attacking with the purpose to score and not figure it out in mid air. They both played like the superstars they are and we need them to be to have a shot. Davis shot 4-4 in the final frame and was stellar on defense overall. Russ carried the load offensively shaking loose for 15 points. Both guys found each other repeatedly for baskets down the stretch. This is how they have to play all the time, every game. With that intensity and fervor.
- Carmelo shaking off his road woes. it’s no secret that Melo has mostly struggled on the road. Outside of his game against Boston where he wasn’t much involved but shot well, his road splits have been awful. Last night he came up huge on both ends in the 4th quarter with some aggressive close outs, his shooting and his overall presence which is still one of elite NBA pedigree. While he may not be the Melo of old, he has a ton left in the tank and the young guys react to that in a positive way. Melo is going to be a big part of this team’s successes and it’s been a thrill to watch. I’ve always loved me some Carmelo.
- Dwight Howard’s monster 13 minutes. We lose this game without Dwight. He was the only one who, early on, rose to the level of physicality that Detroit was playing with. He wasn’t part of an effective unit but he played with the kind of focus and intensity this game required when he was out there. Oh, and he hit 2 threes within the flow of the offense. One to close out the first half as time expired. Clutch.
- The gritty stats. While we can once again point to a plethora of first half issues defensively we still found a way to win. We outrebounded Detroit by a decent margin (51-39), and did a great job on the offensive glass with 12 boards there (4 of those by DAJ who got the start). Kept the turnovers low when they had crept up early, our defense in the 4th quarter is something I’d like to bottle and save for every single game from here on out and, in general, we found the right kind of hustle this team needs to play with. They stopped relying on talent, stopped begging the refs to bail them out and simply played harder down the stretch for a potentially season-saving and job-saving win. Had we lost (and should we lose either of the next 2 games on the schedule) this will be a losing road trip and ensure we come back no better than .500. Win these next 2 games and everything starts to look a little better: 11-9 with a .500 road record. While not elite, that works for a team that is still figuring out a lot of different things on the fly and waiting for key guys to get back.
The main thing for the Lakers is to avoid the play in which means a top 6 seeding. 4 or higher would be nice but it’s already looking like 1-3 are going to go to Golden State, Phoenix and Utah in some order or another. That means we have to knock one of Dallas, Denver or the Clippers out of the top 6. With 64 games left that seems doable. Who knows with some injury luck on our end and something unexpected happening to one of those 6 teams there is still more than enough time in the season to make a serious move up the standings. I think the team has enough as-is to compete for the title. If we do make a move it feels like this team plays better with a traditional big man, at least to start halves and play spot minutes leading up to crunch time so I would hope that we’d acquire a player to fill that role rather than split it up between Dwight and DAJ. Heck, one potential solution in my mind is to actually try starting Dwight and letting him play 20+ MPG and DAJ is there in case of foul trouble. Super Man has shown he can hit the three, after all.
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Good fiver, Jamie. Personally, I thought the faux post by Shams about the NBA fining Steward $900,000 was real. I mean the Malice at the Palace was a low the NBA never wants to see again. Stewart is going to get a big fine and suspension and should get some counseling. That could have been a major disaster for the NBA had somebody who got in Stewart’s way got hit and hurt.
1) I thought LeBron looked like the abdominal strain was really bothering him. He was very stiff in posture and had little lift. I saw that hater Hollinger jumped all over that in his article. Bottom line, this was the first time I thought Father Time looked like he was affecting more than just LeBron’s recovery time.
2) AD and Russ found a way to get it done. I don’t care if it was against the Bad News Bears. Winning without LeBron is something the Lakers desperately need to figure out. That fourth quarter comeback from AD and Russ was the biggest sign yet that they may be able to end the droughts when LBJ sits.
3) Melo continues to show he is a weapon for this team. Glad to see him coming off the bench. We have lacked this kind of long range shooting off the bench. Now if Ellington and Monk could join the block party off the bench, the Lakers might shed the poor 3-point shooting reputation.
4) Dwight’s now shooting over 70% from deep, tops on the Lakers. We might have laughed but I’ve seen much better touch on free throws from Dwight and believe that’s because of the effort he has made to learn to shoot threes. When the shot’s there, I don’t mind him taking it. Our new stretch five.
5) While it looked like the Lakers had not yet hit the bottom during the first three quarters of the Pistons’ game, we finally saw this team finally get a sense of urgency with LeBron ejected that resulted in their best quarter of the year without LBJ as Russ and AD found a way to turn disaster into a gritty win.
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I also think there’s something to starting two bigs that makes Frank, LeBron, and Anthony more comfortable on the court. That’s why I strongly believe going after an elite two-way center like Turner makes such good sense.
We know the Lakers want to be the bully ball team so why not double down on that by adding a center who shoots 40% from deep and leads the lead with 3 blocks and 1.7 steals per game? Double down on playing small-ball-on-steroids.
It’s a move that would transform the Lakers into a dynasty that would continue after LeBron James retired.
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Aloha. Nice post Jamie. I really didn’t gain much confidence from the comeback. We gave up 99 points through 3 quarters to a team that averages 97. A game. I actually was more encouraged by our loss to the Bucks who finally had their big 3 back then I was by this win. We played with energy the entire game. Like I have said before, it’s not the losses that has bothered me as much as the effort level.
I agree with you that if we are going to start 2 bugs we should start Dwight. I know he brings energy to the 2nd unit but it seems like the start of the 3rd quarter is when we need that energy the most. Frank likes to let AD play most if not all of the 1st and 3rd quarters so he could bring Dwight out early and bring him back when AD rests. DJ should only get in if there is foul trouble or an injury.
My half full glass amazingly is still upright. I’m going to withhold judgement on this team until LeBron can string 10 to 15 games together to see how he looks and the rest of our guys come back. It’s easy to see the areas where they all can contribute.
As far as trades, I’m not holding my breath. I would love to see the Lakers pick up Thad Young at the buyout. It appears that the Spurs have finally decided they are in a rebuild and they are playing their young guys more and Young is playing very little. Hopefully no one trades for him.
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Thanks guys.
@Tom I love how you’ve come back around in regards to the center position. I think our choice not to add a younger than DeAndre Jordan center to the roster when we had the chance is going to be a huge issue this season. AD will play at the 5 when the game is on the line, I think we waste some of his elite-weak-side help talent when we relegate him to the 5 for the majority of the game.
@Michael at this point any miniscule improvement is a welcome one and any win a good one. I’m not sure the team will ever be in a place where we can evaluate them any better than we can right now. Injuries, illness, COVID, NBA what-have-you all have a way of conspiring against that notion. Should it ever come and we see LeBron in a string of games with the key pieces all healthy and contributing in the way Frank envisioned I’ll welcome it but until such tie, this is what we got.
At any rate, if AD can’t go tonight it likely means a loss and that means a losing road trip and that we will finish no better than .500 20 games in. That’s the barometer I’m using and the team has been, for the most part, fairly underwhelming up to this point. There are flashes here and there of the kind of team this could be, even sans LBJ, but they are utterly unable to sustain anything so far so while the final verdict may still be out there the games still count and the seeding for the playoffs is being defined every week. This team really ought to want to avoid any play-in games.
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Read MoreAn absolutely uninspiring effort against the team one would think the Lakers would want to beat no matter the situation, record or personnel. Maybe the Boston/Laker rivalry is dead and, if so, another thing of magic and majesty has passed from the planet’s surface. Can’t be a rival when you only show up for half the battle. That’s minion level status, at best.
- Great first quarter, huh? The Lakers showed up like a team that desperately wants to turn the page in a horror novel where the horror sort of just…never…ends. The offense was grooving, we forced 7 turnovers, LeBron was back, Russ was greasing the engine and we we’re defen-well, not quite. That first quarter defense, which gave up 30 points, was about as good as it was going to get it turns out as the Lakers gave an equal amount or more points for the rest of the game. There is an issue on defense which can’t just be explained away by the loss of Alex Caruso. That issue is a lack of several things: execution, attention to detail, heart, and investment.
- The Lakers new hit single should be called 3rd Quarter Blues. But we really didn’t need the 4th quarter encore of “I’ve Already Left the Building”. It’s been an issue all season. The halftime refreshments need to be changed, whichever parent is bringing the orange slices and Gatorade needs to get booted over to hauling the balls and setting up the nets because we come out of the locker room like we’ll all look on Thanksgiving after turkey. I’m assuming the Lakers don’t serve the team turkey dinner at the half, of course. I really don’t know what to say about this. The only people in the room are the team and coaches and whatever support staff is there to tape up this or patch up that. It’s such a consistent occurrence that it has to be mentioned and is a major concern. Until we can figure out how to come out of the half with some level of intensity we’re going to have an uphill climb in most games.
- The odd refereeing continues. It’s obviously bothering the entire team as they spend more time talking to the refs about this or that than with each other about blown coverages and missed assignments. Foul calls are, in my opinion, a byproduct of intensity. We lack it, which is astounding when one considers that we have Russell Westbrook on the team. But, at this point, it seems pretty obvious to me that there is a lack of fire under the team. If it’s a symptom of too many guys on minimum deals, something that will even out over time, or simply the way the game is now being called I don’t know but a blow to the head should be a foul no matter the score, no matter what. AD took a head hit last game, LeBron in this one and Russ has been knocked down more than I’ve ever seen him and barely gets to the line. Now…would we win just because of more free throw attempts? No guarantee on that one as the Lakers are struggling against the free throw line defense teams are throwing at them but I think a few more calls going our way would at least help us stay focused on the task at hand.
- The Lakers rebounding struggles continue. Because we’re a long and not tall team we need to team rebound with intent. We’re not doing that very well. I can understand why Davis prefers to play the 4. He gets to weak side block shots and hunt guys down when they’re not focused on him. He gets a big lug to box out and set screens. In short, someone to do the yeoman’s work in the paint. AD has the skillset, and oftentimes the mentality, of a guard. Which is what makes him both so dangerous and also what makes this current experiment with him playing the majority of his minutes at the 5 such a quandary. Not one Laker managed more than 7 rebounds and, as a team, we were out rebounded 18 (51-33). Like defense, rebounding is a heart/hustle stat. This team plays fast, but not controlled. This team has heart but usually it only shows up for a half or so. It’s getting sickening to watch, quite frankly. The fans deserve better and so does the team. This team should be better than this.
- 8-9. I remember when the Heat hit that 9-8 record in year 1 and Bosh and Wade told LeBron to just be LeBron, they’d fit in around him. From there on out it worked and it worked to the tune of 2 NBA titles. Something like that has to happen here only I have no idea what that looks like. It’s hard for Russ to find his own groove when Frank takes he and LeBron out at the same time. It’s neither of the ball-dominant player’s team, it’s more AD’s now than anyone else’s as he’s the youngest and has the most impact game to game, so far. He may not want it but that torch is coming his way and it feels like it’s coming his way right now. Maybe that’s the issue, that we’re a LeBron James team in Anthony Davis’ body while Russ watches on in horror like a version of Freaky Friday gone horribly wrong. We’re on the south side of that 9-8 mark, had we won tonight it could have been now. As it is the best we can hope for is to see 9-9 after the next game and not 8-10. If this team comes back from the road trip not having won a single game I think we’ll start to hear some rumblings followed by the dreaded vote of managerial confidence in regards to coach Vogel’s job.
Never in a million years would I have imagined that I would write that last sentence. Think of it…Luke Walton might have more job security than Vogel does right now. At the very least there probably isn’t much difference between the heat under either seat. But this team isn’t defending and they’re not outscoring teams with raw firepower. There is no easy fix, it would appear. Time? Sure, there’s still some time to get it figured out but come the end of the roadie we’ll be 20 games in with 62 left. We’re in 9th place in the western conference right now. A Laker team that can put up 109+ ppg should have a better record if only they could figure out how to play defense for more than a quarter or two. If they can’t then it makes Vogel’s skillset an even larger issue as he is known to be a defense-first guy. At any rate, the Lakers are now fast running out of excuses: AD is playing the 5, we’re running shooters out there in the sets that they evidently prefer, we got all three superstars back and THT.
We’re still getting run out of the building.
Something’s got to give.
Go Lakers.
(personal note for all the GHE/GHF chit chat – I would much rather be writing about how great the team is playing and how the playoffs are going to be fun…well…the team ain’t obliging, people, the team ain’t obliging) -
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Read MoreI don’t see another move the Lakers can make that would have as positive benefits as trading for Turner, moving AD back to the four and LeBron to the three, and playing Russ and THT in the backcourt.
Lakers can’t continue to play Too-Small-Ball instead of Small-Ball-on-Steroids. Best way to fix that is to trade for Myles Turner. He would enable us to continue to play the same small ball five-out style but with monster size like last season.
A Russ, THT, LeBron, AD, and Turner starting lineup would be the biggest small ball team in the league. Thast’s exactly the physically dominating type of team Frank wants with two bigs. AD gets to play his preferred four and LeBron his preferred three.
Considering THT’s jump, he and Nunn and DJ should be enough and we can throw in a pick or Monk to close the deal. It’s the single biggest move the Lakers can make at this time and much better than trading for a bigger 3&D wing or power forward.
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Aloha Jamie, nice post although I agree with a couple of points. First THT had 12 boards, that’s a little more then a couple😂 The 2nd, the Bucks aren’t really injury riddled. They were earlier but they had their big 3 back. The only starter out is Lopez and honestly even with him the Lakers beat the Bucks with LeBron. We went 0 for 16 from 3 down the stretch and it killed us. However that really is an anomaly. We are better then that. 25% down that stretch wins the game. And you are right, fouls are ridiculous. AD didn’t even a get an out in the open flagrant foul call on Giannis. One of our biggest problems was the Bucks were getting small on Giannis, almost at will. And we weren’t sending help. While AD didn’t do a good job against him, he got a lot of his points against small players in switching situations. I don’t know how LeBron will effect THT but I think we now have 4 guys that can really attack. I think we will see rotations that have maybe Russ and AD and LeBron and THT or other combinations with those four.
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Good to see some welcome positivity in this fiver, Jamie. Sometimes, things do look differently after you let some time pass. I still contend this was a QUALITY loss. And I agree with all of your ‘five things.’
1) I agree 100% with you on THT’s great game, especially the 3-point shooting. Talen has put together three straight games that scream third year breakout. Can he continue if LeBron returns? That’s the big question. I think he’ll get a chance. I’ll be rooting for THT to have another big game.
2) Lakers could have won the Bucks game had they shot up to their normal level and had Giannis not had his usual 3 of 4 threes against the Lakers while shooting under 30% vs. rest of league. You’re right that the game often swings on whether we make or miss our threes. I feel more confident that as the season progresses, our improved 3-point shooting will show up.
3) AD did get owned on defense by Giannis and it also affected his confidence on the offensive end. There’s an up-and-down to AD’s game that needs to end. Aggressive for two games followed then by a passive game. For sure, LeBron has the low center of gravity that Giannis has and AD doesn’t. Giannis can overpower AD in the post but not LeBron but AD still cannot get outscored 44 to 18. We need a huge bounce back finish to this road trip by AD. He got schooled. Now he needs some payback.
4) Glad the Lakers complained to the league about the free throw issues. All three Lakers superstars are getting jobbed by the zebra. All three receiving the fewest free throws in their
career. The flagrant foul by Giannis hitting AD in the back and on the head was just the poster boy for the zebras bias against LA.5) Russ working hard to diminish the turnovers is a sign he’s been listening to LeBron, AD, and Frank. The Lakers clearly can benefit from not wasting possessions. Of course, not having LeBron helped too. It will be a key to tonight’s game because the Lakers need LeBron and Russ to take care of the ball. But good find, Jamie, as better ball security is one of the keys to more wins.
Great Fiver, Jamie. Let’s hope LeBron plays, AD dominates, Russ plays under control, THT continues to shine, and our shooters remember how to shoot. I’m hoping for a happy, kumbaya podcast tonight. 😃✌
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Read MoreWell, with LeBron out we’re not at DEFCON 5 yet but man this is looking like a season of uphill battles thus far. Gone is any lofty talk of a 70 win season, at this pace the Lakers will be lucky to avoid the play-in. If this team doesn’t figure some things out, get (and stay) healthy and begin competing at a higher level you can kiss the banner goodbye and add another wasted season in purple and gold to LeBron James’ resume’.
- Talen’s big game. The best Laker on the floor last night was THT. He attacked the defense in a variety of ways and his three point shot was on full display. With Vogel announcing that Kendrick Nunn is still “a way’s away” with a bone bruise we desperately need production from Horton-Tucker. The evolution of his three-pointer is a huge key to unlocking his potential as it will force teams to stay on him on the perimeter opening chances to drive the ball into the paint and attack. The next step is getting his teammates activated and involved and continuing to improve on defense. If THT is going to be a force he needs to bring that trifecta of impact.
- AD getting tossed. This is becoming a theme: Lakers struggle for this reason or that, get into it with the refs, lose game and talk about how they need to stay better composed. Well the time to start that journey is now because this version of the Lakers really lets officiating bother them. From Dwight on the bench yapping to Melo every time down the court to DeAndre Jordan looking for touch fouls in the paint (hint: DAJ…they ain’t calling that stuff bro) the Lakers just need to suck it up and realize the refs aren’t bailing them out of their poor play. Everyone’s unhappy with the officiating so that indicates that at least there has been some level of consistency there. Now did AD deserve to be tossed and/or was he right about usually the refs give a a player a quick moment to re-shoe? Sure, but that ought not obfuscate the fact that the game was all but decided by the time he got tossed.
- Play with some pride. LeBron alone won’t fix this. He’ll help but until this team comes together and starts sacrificing for one another, selling out for loose balls, and competing at a high level regardless of the opponent it won’t really matter who is on the floor. This team seemingly wants to be able to rely on talent, not get down on it in terms of defense, not focus on the minutiae and execute at a high level and in general has an air of laziness about it that simply won’t get it done most nights. Right now if 2 bench guys don’t get red hot from three, AD doesn’t pour in 30+ points and Russ have an above average game we have no shot to win against most teams. So when LBJ gets back we’ll see less of Monk and Bazemore, most likely. At this point that’s a good thing. While I’m high on Monk and his skillset it’s obvious we need someone to restore order and if it’s not LeBron it won’t be anyone. The trio talked a lot about sacrifice in their dinner where this was all envisioned, now is the time to start.
- The question of Alex Caruso vs. THT. I mentioned this on the podcast. That i think this debate is absurd as it frames two guys who in and of themselves aren’t the reason the Lakers are in luxury tax land. The reason that happened is we traded for Westbrook and have two other max salaried players. So the idea that the smallish contracts that THT and Caruso signed respectively is just a false narrative that obfuscates the fact that the majority of resources available to the team are dedicated to 3 players. That in and of itself isn’t the problem. The problem is that, after committing so many resources to the three players and trading away the aspects of the roster we could easily retain we were left with 2 players whom we could go over the salary cap to keep, although the doing of that would be costly and those 2 players were AC and THT. If you’re going to build a 3 superstar team you have to do so with the correct mindset. 3 players does not a championship roster make and I hardly believe that could news to anyone inside the Laker front office war room. We needed the skillset of both THT and Caruso in order to field the most competitive team that also has some championship pedigree and experience playing alongside LeBron. So, in my mind, this debate is being framed all wrong. The issue is that the Lakers went big on 3 guys and cheaped out big time after that. End of discussion. Really the reasons don’t matter at this point either as this is the team we have.
- How can we turn this around? Honestly, I don’t think any one thing can turn this around. James coming back re-creates the same problem we have now which is our offense is fine but our defense is not. We’re not elite in any way except roster payroll, at least we’re not playing elite. Russ doesn’t have the right kind of guys around him to be the best version of himself, but adding LeBron and THT will marginalize Russ (somewhat) so that may be the answer there is just having more guys who can get their won shot on the floor and hope Melo can keep his roll going on the road (although his last 2 games have been drop off games for him). We need 30 points from AD every single night, it would appear, because after AD and The King we don’t have anyone that can score in double digits consistently. Melo, maybe, but Anthony is old and isn’t going to have the mojo every single night. Russ will score in double-digits but the efficiency is a huge issue in regards to those points.
It’s certainly fair to say that I am now in the position of having to re-examine my opinion that adding Russ was the right move. At the time I could imagine how it could work, in reality I have yet to see anything consistent or organic from the team for the most part. This isn’t working, especially against teams that have an identity established or have gelled quickly. The Bulls in many ways were the perfect team to face at this crux of the season: they had a huge amount of turnover, have done the job early against a favorable schedule, and a re playing like champs already but with guys who haven’t won a thing (except Caruso). But thinking of a world where we could have had DeRozan and kept AC and THT is certainly a “hindsight is 20/20” kind of world. We didn’t go that route, nor did we trade for Buddy. We have Westbrook and now the guys have to find a way to make it work.
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Good fiver, Jamie. Hard to find anything positive about another ‘flush it’ game this season. Obviously, we still have not figured out how to win the non-LeBron minutes.
Overall, I still believe the Lakers will be fine. We’re doomed against the Bucks tonight but should be fine when LeBron returns. Just getting tired of seasons being so affected by the damn injuries. And it’s not just the old guys. It’s the damn young guys who can’t get healthy.
1) Great game by THT, especially the outside shooting. You’re spot on that his 3-point shooting will likely determine his future with the Lakers.
2) AD showed his frustration with the doubling and tripling and his teammates poor shooting by getting tossed for complaining about the time to retie his sneaker. Frank needs to figure out how to counter the double and triples. Russ is obviouslhy not enought.
3) We always get into these arguments about how hard players are playing or whether they have any pride when we lose in a blowout. Sometimes, it’s just the other team playing great, which is what happened last night. The Bulls were scorching the nets all night long while the Lakers were cold as ice. End of story.
4) I do agree with you that it’s unfair to assign all of the taxes to Caruso when it was Westbrook’s contract that created the inevitable situation. I still believe there were other reasons besides money for the Lakers not bringing Caruso back and part of that is his limitations as a player. Some of it was about opening up minutes for other guards who were more offensive minded. I mean, imagine if we also had AC, the minutes at the two would disappear. We already have way too many guards and not enought wings.
5) Now you’re suddenly after the 15th game telling me we have no chance of turning it around and LeBron coming back will just cause more problems? I will consider that just your rant after a terrible game. Friday, when LeBron returns, we will start to turn this around. Mark my words. 4-game road win streak.
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Good stuff, Jamie. Can’t disagree with any of it
1) Treading water is the perfect description of this team’s mental state. Every game it’s something. Is LeBron playing? Is AD playing? When will Nunn play his first game? Same for Ariza. Frankly, I think we’re LeBron and one player from being OK. Maybe LeBron and Reaves. I’m thinking he’s the only guard with the defense and size to start at the two. Until Ariza’s ready, I’m betting Frank sticks with two bigs. If he’s going to lose his job, he’s not going to do it without doing it his way. Can’t blame him.
2. That ‘Fill-in-the-blank’ quarter! Yeah, the funny thing about this game is it was the starters like Russ and Bradley who put us in the hole and then almost saved us. What was disappointing was no carry over from the great fourth quarter against the Pistons. Even bigger mystery, no Russ/AD pick-and-rolls from the left side like won the Detroit game. Puzzling!
3. THT looked terrible. LOL, so bad he could screw up all of my proposed trades. He’s not ready to start and likely won’t next game. He does need to play better for the Lakers to win and for teams to covet him in a trade. I’ll be rooting for him but the last two games have been major disappointments. THT is as good as gone right now for a shot blocking stretch five or bigger 3&D wing. Game’s still too fast for him at 20.
4. Have to agree with you on the Lakers 3-point shooting. You know I’m a big proponent of volume 3-point shooting, which means a player like Buddy or Lonzo who hoist 10 threes per game. Melo is the only player on the Lakers who should have that kind of green light.
As a player and coach, I also lived by the rule that you went to the rim to get a bucket or free throw when you’re not hitting from outside. Only losers settle when the game’s on the line. In this case, I think the Lakers just ran out of gas coming back from 15 down. Another lesseon we can only hope the Lakers learned last night. Don’t get off to a bad start.
5. Turnover advantage. Even a sloppy first quarter by Russ can’t prevent the Lakers from another game with excellent ball security. Glad to see you looking for silver linings too. For some reason, I think this team is getting more adversity and criticism than they deserve. Let’s hope we start a win streak tonight.