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Read MoreThat was pathetic. Let’s get this over with.
- 83 points, to date. That’s the amount the Lakers have been outscored in the 3rd quarter by the opposition to this point in the season. We come out of the half like the game is in the bag. It’s a bad habit that started in preseason and has been consistently displayed throughout the season.
- Lazy basketball. In the 3rd quarter, after the Timberwolves had run out to a double-digit lead in a not double-digit minute span, the Lakers fell back on the laziest shot in basketball: the early shot clock three pointer. Most of those came within a Mike D’Antoni-esque 7 seconds or less in regards to the shot clock. The five out sets mean there are no rebounders for these lazy shots and it allowed Minnesota to get out on the break since we also chose not to really get back on defense after bad shots like we took in the 3rd.
- No pride shown. This got so embarrassing so fast I was surprised the starters played as much as they did in the second half. If you’re not going to compete, if you’re just gonna jack up lazy shots (everyone, no one player did a good job of trying to make a basketball play, throwing inane passes out of bounds under little to no pressure, and basically choose not to show up then do the fans who shelled out over $100/ticket a favor and just leave your ass at home. Nobody wants to watch NBA level talent play lazy and silly. Nobody.
- This Laker team is soft. Like Charmin soft. We get out-rebounded consistently. We play defense without moving our feet consistently. We settle for bad shots consistently. Those are the defining characteristics of this team, I don’t care what name is on the back of the jersey. We rarely work inside out, almost never run a set play unless it’s an inbounds (and even there it’s iffy) and have shown that we are more than willing to play down to lesser competition. Weak.
- Kiss that banner good bye. AD called out the team in his post-game but even that, in my opinion, fell short of what this team needs which is a swift kick in the butt. We’re coming up on the 20 game mark which is generally a barometer for the kind of team you have. That being the case, welcome to the 2021-22 version of the Los Angeles Lakers: a collection of names, not playing cohesively, showing up for 2/3s of every game and trying to get by on talent alone. If I were the coach I’d bench every player who isn’t getting back, who grabs instead of moves and shoots a three with 14+ seconds left on the clock. Be better or go this will become one of the biggest collection of losers with HOF credentials ever assembled in any sport.
This glass is full, 100% full of reality people. I’m sure this post could be considered more arm-waving and hand-wringing but we’re almost done with what was considered the easy part of our schedule and it’s only going to get harder. That doesn’t bode well for the LA Lambs, er, Lakers
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It was embarrassing to watch, AD sounded more than embarrassed and this is like the 5th game of the season where the overall effort, focus and presence is MIA. The whole team is vets except Monk and he’s playing with more intensity than most of the vets. Getting LeBron back should help but the MO for the team to this point has been disappointing on
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Read MoreThree overtimes of late, three wins. We may not be where we want to be as a team, yet, but we’re finding ways to win while we learn. That’s huge in a loaded western conference that features several teams leaking out ahead of us in the seeding race. While there were many things that almost derailed the win we overcame them and that’s a step forward for this team in this moment.
- Malik Monk’s huge game. We needed every one of those points Monk poured in to bring home the win. Malik has a unique skillset on this team. Like THT he can get his own shot, get into the paint to create and is possessed of youthful vim and vigor. Unlike THT he has a killer jump shot. If we can unlock something like this version of Malik on a nightly basis we can live with the occasional defensive lapse or two. We need someone to provide scoring off the bench other than Melo and if it can be Monk that’s cool with me.
- Melo continues his Sixth man of the year campaign. He may not have been raining threes but Melo knows how to apply pressure on a defense from anywhere on the floor. Anthony has also been playing with a nice amount of vinegar since becoming a Laker. You can see him engaging with AD about defensive concepts in stoppages (and even after the game last night) and he finds ways to win like superstars tend to do. While he is definitely removed from his “alpha” days in the NBA he is still a respected force that creates his own, unique gravity on the floor that forces a defense to react.
- Russell’s triple-double. This is life with Westbrook and you might as well buckle up and enjoy the ride, bumps and all. Intense is the word I have landed on to describe Westbrook’s game. Applied with as much force as skill, always ramped up to 100 MPH all with the audacity of a swashbuckler Russ is gonna drive the team forward. This time without LeBron has been good for Russ. It’s not that he’s changed his game or unlocked a heretofore unseen skillset it’s that he’s been free to be himself. If anyone is going to see where he fits in amongst the budding rapport between Russ and AD it’s The King. So letting Russ run wild for a few games has had it’s benefits and warts but that’s the package we bought when we traded for O.
- Avery Bradley should stick as a starter. I don’t buy into the idea that Avery doesn’t have the right skillset, mentality or ability to be a starter on this team. In fact I happen to think he’s the perfect compliment to Russ at the 2 to kick things off. He’s yin to Westbrook’s yang: where Russ is always playing in 5th gear, Avery has a control and pace to his game that allows him to speed up his game when called for. He shoots the three well enough and his defense is sorely needed in a starting unit that will seemingly end up featuring DeAndre Jordan on most nights. I’m not sure Kent is the long-term answer at the three, I have no doubt in my mind that AB should start at the 2.
- The free throw disparity issue. OK, this has gotten absurd. Once again it was a more than 2-1 disparity in free throws attempted. While some of this is on us and our defensive lapses, it’s not like the Lakers a re a jump shooting team. Frank needs to pick up a T, challenge some calls, something to start to bring this thing back into a manageable realm because this isn’t a winning formula. It took ridiculous games from role players, hitting nearly 50% from three and a series of out of character misses late from the Heat to pull this out. We have to play better defense, yes, but the Lakers also need to start getting some calls going their way. I’m sure this will start to even out…eventually.
We ought to win against Minny. Here’s hoping we do. Go Lakers.
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Read MoreI have been saying that before. Having AD and Russ figure out things while LeBron waits is the first step in developing a synergy among the three of them. So LeBron out for some time might help in a big way while it hurts. Chemistry takes different forms to materialize.
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My issue, as I indicated on the post game podcast, is that if you offense that has AD, Russ, and LBJ is relying on 37 year old Melo to make it all work there is a fundamental flaw in that offensive system.
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Many instances of older elite 3-point shooters helping winning championships: Kyle Korver, Ray Allen, Steve Kerr… Just add Melo to that list.
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“Helping win” and “making the offense work at a basic level” are two very different things dude.
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Every LeBron team has had a designated 3-point shooter who played on his strong side wing or corner. That’s always been part of the formula for success with LeBron. Lakers finally found their version of that shooter in Melo, which is a huge positive development for this Lakers’ team.
Hilariously, I see above that I never finished my response to your fiver so I fixed that and responded to your remaining 4 points. Damn, getting harder to juggle those mental balls as I get older.
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Good fiver, Jamie. And thanks for being there on Lakers Fast Break so Gerald did not have to go solo.
1) We started out hoping for 1 out 4 great games from Melo. Then it was 2 out 4. Now it’s looking like 3 out of 4. Melo is the one player the Lakers signed who has the stones to shoot better rather than worse like everybody else who can stand the bright lights. Melo and AD showing grit and guts to lead the Lakers are two huge reasons to be high on the Lakers despite the record and injuries. Every win without LeBron is like two wins in the end.
2) I think we’re getting out in the break fine but we’re still not finishing at an elite level. Russ and Baze missing bunnies at the rim. We’ll get better. When you play at such a fast pace, you turn the ball over more and increase the number of possessions and thus points scored and allowed. So I think it’s a misconception that playing fast hasn’t helped us win games. It has but it’s only one component.
3) When you look at the last six games, we’re 4th in defensive rating in the league with similarly impressive individual player defensive ratings. That tells me what Frank is doing defensively is working. Pace is just distorting it and we still haven’t played enough games for the true rate to emerge. The key is we are getting better and should continue to improve once LeBron, THT, Nunn, and Ariza get healthy.
4) Completely agree with you regarding composure. We’re getting hosed by the refs but we’re compounding the situation by complaining, arguing, and sometimes not getting back into play. I think that’s an early season issue that will resolve itself. As we start getting healthy and winning, the frustrations will go away.
5) There’s always two sides to the story. No, we didn’t win comfortably but, like Russ responded to Bill Oram, “Who won?” The key is this is a win without LeBron James. This is why we traded for Russell Westbrook. For situations just like this when LeBron or AD are out. Russ is the insurance and last night, it worked. That’s such important progress that it should have been at the top of your five things.
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Read MoreThe Trailblazer’s game was garbage. Terrible effort on every front, got played off the floor by the better team and the biggest issue is this is happening when we face what are considered to be bottom-feeding teams. The Lakers have an age problem in that we are an old team. Our superstars are old, our role-players are old and all but 1 of the young guys signed over the summer and a rookie are injured. On top of that we are counting on guys who put their bodies through a lot just to feel healthy. As soon as they get dinged up a little, it seems to mean they get dinged up a lot. Pro sports are a younger person’s affair, for the most part, and this ain’t golf or baseball.
- LeBron’s injury-riddled time in Los Angeles. However you care to quantify this it’s becoming an unavoidable topic of debate: LeBron is getting older and it’s showing in his shot selection and his availability. LA got vintage LeBron, a finely aged player still capable of putting up quality performances. Then came the groin injury and a mostly lost season. 2019 will always be looked at through the lens of LeBron turning back the clock in the playoffs and helping bring banner 17 to the rafters. However, that also has to come with a big “But” in the form of a 3 month break midseason as planet Earth grappled with COVID-19. Then came the following season where LeBron was playing at a high level, again. Until Solomon Hill accidentally took him out with a high ankle sprain. Since his, at times shaky, return from that injury one thing has stood out: LeBron now shoots a lot of threes. Now he’s out with another ankle injury, one that some say could take as long as a month to heal. At 36, with the mileage that body has accumulated, it makes sense for the Lakers to be as cautious as they can afford to be given the impact James’ health has on our title chances.
- Anthony Davis aka The Man Who Falls Down A Lot. I love AD and the way he plays the game. He really does play in the style of a throwback power forward a la Bob McAdoo but with better range (“Doo” would have been a beast in the modern game, btw). If you listen to Bill & Stu on the Spectrum broadcasts you’ll there’s a running joke about AD hitting the floor and how many times he picks himself up off of it. It will not surprise me if, at some point, we see AD attempt a FG from said floor. The dude is elite, no doubt, but he also gets nicked up easier and quicker than a lot of other elite players. I’m not questioning his heart, the world of pro sport is littered with guys who had the talent and the heart but their bodies simply did not cooperate for them to have the kind of careers many expected. AD, like LeBron, benefitted greatly from the COVID time off when he turned in a playoff performance for the ages. That is not something that will be replicated and so the question facing him now is: can you do it within the confines of a true, 82 game NBA season? I believe he can. I am of the opinion that, if the roster is relatively healthy and LeBron is at something like 80% we can win a 7 game series against any other team, east or west. That will depend, as it always does, on a modicum of luck. But good health, especially to your superstars, is a must for any team that wants to do more than place SHOW.
- The Russell Westbrook puzzle. I’m not too proud to admit that I might have been wrong. That Mr. Sean Grice and Mr. Gerald Glassford may have been correct when they said that Russ was not a good fit on the Lakers. I still believe they will all figure out some way to make it work, though that way has certainly not yet been discovered. Westbrook had a golden opportunity against Portland to impose his will on the game. Instead he turned in the worst performance I have personally seen from him, ever. Toss in that the bench we normally deploy gave us nada and the route we all yearn to forget went down. It’s almost impossible for me to conceive a world where the Lakers entertain trading Russell Westbrook, it feels like it would take Dame specifically telling Portland “trade me to the Lakers” and that Russ would be the one to swap. We would also have to still be at, or below, .500 for that to happen. I just can’t see that happening…yet. Even I, of the realistic and pragmatic approach (as opposed to those with glasses of rose), really have a hard time seeing what lead the Lakers to such a dismal conclusion to the Russell Westbrook as a Laker saga. But it is starting to take shape in my mind, which is not a good thing. Because if I can kinda see it now then there are people within the Laker organization that saw back in the summer and likely submitted a memo or bent Rob’s ear for a hot minute only to be over-ruled. I still believe that the Lakers, as constructed now, have enough to win a banner. They suffer from Brooklyn-itis right now: too many pieces that have specific needs that really haven’t played together much. If we can cure that, we got a great chance.
- The rest of the team. It is certainly no secret that, as a result of having three max contracts on the books, the rest of the roster is essentially filler. Composed of a lot of aged vets on minimum deals, Malik Monk on a minimum deal, Nunn for the MLE and THT on his extension with a dash of “hey look at Austin Reaves go!” that’s the Laker bench. This is another area where the age of the roster is an obstacle to overcome, especially in the regular season. All of the guys we play in support roles with either the starting five or off the bench are over 30 except for Monk and Reaves since both THT and Nunn have been out since camp. Carmelo is going to come and go, but like any aged gunslinger he’s only good until the bullets run dry in any one gunfight. Dwight hasn’t been able to recreate his 2.0 Laker magic, DeAndre Jordan looks as washed up as he did at the end of his tenure with the Clippers, Ariza has been hurt and Bazemore and Bradley are decent support, at best. There is no young blood who has the skill and talent to impact the game in a winning way that i available. To be honest, I don’t really see that in him, to begin with. Whatever the impact they can make, we need some of the younger guys to get back competing and see what they can do to help turn this around.
- All things filter from the top down. Rob built this team. Yes, it was with a nod of acquiescence from AD and LBJ but it was his hand that put it together. It’s now Frank’s team to coach. I wondered before camp if Frank had the gravity and voice in order to bring these disparate identities, skill sets and egos into a cohesive force that could consistently win basketball games. I still have many, many doubts in this regard. It’s not Frank’s fault that he was given a roster of either old guys who have defensive reps or young guys who do not but that is in essence the team he was provided with this season. His rep as a defensive coach has been put to what I would imagine is the biggest test it has faced, yet. The Lakers suffered a pretty significant brain drain on the coaching staff, the team is not built for the style the coach likes to play, and many of the key pieces have yet to play significant minutes with each other. In an of themselves, none of these are enough to sink a team’s season. Taken as a whole and at at the same time and this looks more and more like an iceberg in the ocean…waiting…waiting…
I still believe we can overcome all of the above. The question is when more than if. This team was always built with the playoffs in mind, even with Westbrook. While not as much as in the past there is generally more time between games, you’re facing the same team and we got guys who know how to perform under pressure of all kinds. I don’t think too many teams will be trying to position themselves to face the Lakers in the playoffs, so long as we’re relatively healthy. Time, however, is a major factor. We want to be assured of a seeding, not fight for a play in. We want to make what we have work as is, not add more time to what is already a lengthy process of discovering fit, building chemistry and figuring things out. We want the coach we have to do his job right and stick around for awhile because Frank’s a funny guy, helped us win a banner, and if you bring in another coach (even one off the bench) you’re still going to have to re-adjust on the fly. None of that is desirable. So, in the interest of title #18 here’s hoping this group can push through this time of difficulty and figure out a way to win now. Go Lakers.
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Aloha Jamie, nice post. The way I looked at our age before the season started was that we went 14 deep, so there would be enough rest to go around for our younger players. Unfortunately injuries have mucked that up. Four of the guys l thought would play heavy rotation minutes have been hurt. And making matters worse, two of them were our young guys. We are really paying the price for not resigning Alex.
I have never quite been all in to the 3 superstar approach. But I bought in this year, thinking that in Westbrook we had a guy that could carry the load if LeBron or AD went down. There were a lot of concerns about Russ. There was the good Russ and the bad Russ. I thought we could live with the bad. Unfortunately we haven’t seen enough of the good Russ and this last game was pathetic. It’s early and we will get guys back. But Russ needs to play like a superstar when LeBron is out. While there is fit question with LeBron, he should be taking over and playing like a superstar when LeBron isn’t on the court. So far he hasn’t done that enough.
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Michael’s comment about good Russ and bad Russ kind of encapsulates this Lakers team. Good Melo, Bad Melo. Good LeBron, Bad LeBron. Good AD, Bad AD. Good Baze, Bad Baze. Good Reaves, Bad Reaves. Good Vogel, Bad Vogel.
Or maybe it’s just early in the season and players haven’t had a chance to develop rapport or chemistry because of all of the crazy lineups due to injuries and inconsistent play. After all, we did have 11 new players and right now are missing three of our five highest paid players who are out with injuries.
Sometimes the simplest answer is the correct answer.
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I too am looking at LeBron being out as an opportunity for Anthony and Russ to figure out how to win the non-LeBron minutes. That should be an achievable goal. Last night was hopefully the first of many wins without LeBron.
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Read MoreMichael’s comment about good Russ and bad Russ kind of encapsulates this Lakers team. Good Melo, Bad Melo. Good LeBron, Bad LeBron. Good AD, Bad AD. Good Baze, Bad Baze. Good Reaves, Bad Reaves. Good Vogel, Bad Vogel.
Or maybe it’s just early in the season and players haven’t had a chance to develop rapport or chemistry because of all of the crazy lineups due to injuries and inconsistent play. After all, we did have 11 new players and right now are missing three of our five highest paid players who are out with injuries.
Sometimes the simplest answer is the correct answer.
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Great fiver, Jamie. Love the Get Back theme and video. Thanks.
I also appreciate the more nuanced criticism and acknowledgement of the positive things that we’re seeing. There’s definitely a ways to go and injuries are rearing their ugly head again but we’re good enough to fight through it so no need to panic. Bron out is just going to make it take longer.
The silver lining. I’m rooting for AD to go crazy and put-up stats like he did at times in New Orleans and Russ to continue to show that winning without LeBron is why we traded for him regardless of fit. That’s what I want and hope to see but not predicting. But I’m primed to be happily surprised. That would be sweet.
1) No doubt defense has at times been problematic for this team, especially when you must give minutes to poor defenders like Rondo, Jordan, and Monk. Honestly, though, the problem is we seem to have an underrated talent for going into scoring droughts at the same times as when we lapse at defense.
I realize that the label of a 3&D guy is given to way more players than really deserve it, both as shooters and defenders. We have shooters and defenders but few who do both. That means each lineup must be balanced so the team can score and defend.Frankly, no pun intended, some of Frank’s rotations were just terrible. Yes, partly due to injuries and limited roster, but really, a lineup of Howard, Rondo, Bradley, Bazemore, and Reaves? Come on, Frank.
2) There’s no doubt that AD was on his way towards a career type night but I’m thankful he could come back and hopeful he’ll play tomorrow. Waiting for AD to become the next LeBron has been fraught with disappointment and concern due to injuries and, for me at least, motivation to be the greatest. His play is raising hopes this may be the season when it’s AD who wins Finals MVP instead of LeBron.3) Westbrook’s Jekyll and Hyde game, indeed. Talked about the offensive and defensive self-inflicted wounds. Here’s where LeBron and AD need to take Russ aside and tell him to be smarter in the clutch and in general. Anyway, like I say this early in the season, it’s only one game and Russ is looking like he can a force. We’re especially seeing how having a third superstar can be a great insurance policy as well as a ceiling raiser.
4) There’s no question Bradley is the best we have right now as a fifth starter. Unfortunately, I don’t think that’s going to be good enough for us to win. At the least, we need Nunn and THT to show they can take the starting two and three jobs. They’re the highest paid non-superstars. They will show it or be traded at the deadline for players who can. Can’t spend $10M and $5M on two guys who can’t start. That would be foolish. I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Lakers push them into those spots when they come back for just that reason. That $15M should be spent on starters, not bench players.
5) Thunder and SGA played great and they clearly won the second game and in game adjustments over the Lakers. Good coaching. Good young talent who hit clutch shots to take us down twice. Good reminder for the Lakers of how far they need to go and how important the little things and synergy that make a cohesive team on the court better than their parts.
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Nice post Jamie, for me the biggest issue is still injuries. Although a close 2nd is our bad habit of taking our foot off the gas almost every game. That has to stop immediately. One would think that after they beat us the 1st time would have applied even more pressure up 19. I do believe we would have won if either Nunn or THT were available. Rondo is now a break glass in case of an emergency type of player. With either Nunn or THT available Rondo doesn’t play. Also both are very capable of creating offense so we may not have had that scoring drought. And of course they both can defend. I’m also impressed with Bradley. I do believe they will guarantee his contract. If a desirable player is cut and available at the deadline I wouldn’t be surprised if we cut Rondo to make room. And please, Dwight should be getting all the minutes at center when AD sits. He has played much better than DJ. When we have to start AD at the 4 Dwight should be the 5. Go out early and then start the 2nd quarter when AD rests. And when we get everyone back AD should start at the 5 and Dwight should relieve him. DJ should join Rondo as a break glass in case of emergency player.
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Hey-O Michael, yeah Rondo should be put on ice until the playoffs. DAJ should just be put on ice. The 1 or 2 lob dunks a game are meaninglessness. Dude can’t defend a tree right now. Injuries this season are more of the contact/accidental type which is better? I guess? But still means guys are out.
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You should have seen the first draft. Much gloomier but then I had coffee and the world is always a bit brighter after that.
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Frank really has his work cut out for him. I think both Beadley and Bazemore are actually the right kind of guys we need to set a tone early. They’re system guys who fit in where needed and take the open shot. I think where we see a lot of slippage across the board is when it’s left to the supporting cast to run the show. This is where our bin-dynamic offense hits hardest. Russ doesn’t need a scheme, just a shred of daylight. AD needs the ball 15 feet out. That’s the offense. But, with LBJ out and those guys both sitting for about 15 mpg we see a huge fall off in every measurable category. That’s where I’d love to see Nunn or THT or anyone really shine. Can’t put it all in Melo, dude is playing as well as can be expected given the mileage.
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You are right about the fall off Jamie,, when guys rest. But we have 3 very capable guys that haven’t seen the floor yet. Both Nunn and THT looked really good in their limited preseason appearances but even more impressive was what the coaches and teammates were saying about them and what they were seeing in practice. There is also Ellington. I’m interested in seeing what he will bring. My expectations for him last night was pretty low, considering it was his first game back. The big question is, will he be a 42% from 3 guy or will he suffer the shooters curse that haunted Danny Green, Wes Matthews and others that we have brought in for shooting.
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Glad to see the caffeine doing it’s work. The injuries have made Frank struggle with lineups but it’s doubtful answer for starters at the 2 and 3 will be a pair of minimum salary players like Bradley & Bazemore or even Ellington & Ariza. Nunn and THT must be answer due to $10M & $5M salaries or be traded.
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Aloha Jamie, I feel your pain. I turned the game off in the 3rd when we got down by 30. Now I think the TWolves are better then their record. They have talent on that team. And we were missing LeBron and 4 important rotation players. So for me it wasn’t about losing the game. It’s how we lost. If we had battled and came up short I would have chalked it up to an injury loss and moved on. But the pathetic lack of hustle, of energy, is what really was disturbing for what is supposed to be a veteran team. This team NEEDS to play inside out. With AD in the middle and Westbrook’s ability to attack the paint, we need to attack, especially when the outside shots aren’t falling. Rarely does everyone on a team go cold but that was the case and we continued to just dribble up, pass the ball around the perimeter and take a 3. This is on the coaching staff as much as on our VETERAN players. While I still believe that things will turn around when we get players back this lack of energy going into the 3rd quarter has been a problem, even when LeBron was playing. These guys should be embarrassed.