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    Without LeBron, Forward Quickly Becomes Lakers’ Weakest Position

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    Without LeBron, Forward Quickly Becomes Lakers’ Weakest Position

    He’s been pine riding for a couple weeks now and Kleber is getting his minutes. Maxi brings a different vibe off the bench but, like Vando, can’t continue to pass up open shots. Folks like to rip on Vanderbilt for his offense but I’ve never seen him air ball a finger roll at the rim…he’s also shooting better from three than Smart is. So either it’s a run where the staff told him he’s riding pine while they look at something or, more likely, Redick just isn’t the right coach for him. It happens, Vando, in the right system, is solid. In what we’re doing these days he needs to hit the corner three and cut for open layups.

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    Announcing the Lakers Collective

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    Marcus Smart is feeling great and ready for start of Lakers' season

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    Why Lakers’ Starting Lineup Needs Marcus Smart’s Defensive Tenacity

    Lakers’ second-year head coach JJ Redick had to be smiling and thanking his lucky stars watching 31-year old Marcus Smart looking as spry and athletic on defense as the 27-year old version that had won a DPOY.

    The Lakers desperately need better defense from their starting lineup and it’s obvious after Smart’s defensive performance against the Kings that he’s exactly what JJ Redick needs to turbo charge the starting lineup’s defense. Vincent will still start Tuesday night vs. Golden State as Redick probably wants to make sure Smart can sustain a high level of play and stay healthy. Once he shows that, Redick will quickly move him into the starting lineup.

    What makes Smart a better option as the Lakers’ fifth starter than Vincent or Vanderbilt is his experience as an elite starter on a championship team and a defensive skillset that earned him three All-Defensive team honors.
    While Smart’s only an inch taller than Vincent at 6′ 3,” his 6′ 9″ wingspan and 220 lbs enable him to defend forwards as well as guards. Unlike Vando, Smart is good enough on offense that he can’t be played off the court.

    When you look at the Lakers three candidates to be the fifth starter until LeBron returns, Smart is the only legitimate NBA starter quality player. Vincent’s a great shooter and Vando has great size but they’re not starters.
    The Lakers need their fifth starter to be a game changer and tone setter, not just another role player. They specifically need a defensive superstar, which is exactly what a healthy and hungry Marcus Smart could be.

    JJ Redick has already walked back Gabe Vincent being the starter beyond the home opener so don’t be surprised if he changes his mind again and makes Marcus Smart the fifth starter vs. Warriors on Tuesday night.

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    • Maybe. Sounds like Coach Reddick learned a lesson: trying to cement a lineup that:
      A) Isn’t healthy to start

      • B) Has a lot of new parts combined with guys who have now played together for a couple years now.

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        • It would be one thing if training camp lasted longer than 45 minutes, but the first month is now, for lack of a better concept, extended training camp. Smart played like 45 total minutes of preseason, in the end I could give a fig if he starts, comes off the bench, or whatever: we need him ready in the playoffs. Same as LeBron. Reddick has already learned one of the lessons I wanted to see him learn: don’t blab your “plan” to the media.

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    HOW DO LAKERS AND WARRIORS STARTERS MATCHUP BY POSITION?

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    Could Lakers Use Different Fifth Starter To Maximize Match Ups?

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    • With LeBron out, it makes total sense to play the fifth starter that best matches up with the opposing team we’re playing. I could see situation where the fifth starter could be Gabe, Marcus, Vando, Maxi, or Jaxson. Play whomever helps us win the matchups.

    • Yes. This is what I said on the last podcast w/Gerald. With LeBron out it doesn’t make too much sense to say “this is our OTHER starting five!” And blab your plan to the media. Keep it surprising, one game could be Gabe, the next Vando, then Smart and so on.

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    MARCUS SMART LOOKED LIKE REAL DEAL

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    Lakers feature opening night starting 5 in preseason finale

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    • FROM ABOVE ARTICLE:

      Using Friday’s preseason finale as a “dress rehearsal” for next week’s regular-season opener, Los Angeles Lakers coach JJ Redick put Gabe Vincent in the starting lineup to fill in for the injured LeBron James.

      Vincent capped a strong individual training camp with 14 points on 5-for-6 shooting (4-for-5 from 3), but the Lakers lost 117-116 to the Sacramento Kings to finish the preseason 1-5.

      The regular season starts Tuesday night when the Lakers host the Golden State Warriors. Though the Vincent decision was made, there is plenty more for the Lakers to figure out in the next few days.

      “We have two more practices, so we need to clean up some things,” said Luka Doncic, who scored a game-high 31 points to go with nine assists in 33 minutes.

      Vincent said the coaching staff informed him about the lineup change Friday morning. If the staff was uncertain about the choice, Vincent helped his cause in the Lakers’ preseason game against the Dallas Mavericks on Wednesday when he scored 18 points in the first four minutes, going 5-for-5 from 3.

      “I think I just bring what I’ve been doing since I’ve been here,” Vincent said when asked about his fit with the starters. “Just defending, try to defend at a high level. Playmake when I have opportunities, space the floor while Luka and [Austin Reaves] are creating themselves.”

      James is not expected to return to the lineup until mid-November, sources told ESPN’s Shams Charania, as he continues to recover from sciatica affecting the right side of his body.

      Though Vincent will join Doncic, Reaves, Deandre Ayton and Rui Hachimura on the court to tip off the 2025-26 season, Redick made it clear that the current starters are not permanent.

      “I don’t know anything about who I’m going to be starting the rest of the season because, again, there’s injuries and there’s things that happen throughout a year,” Redick said. “I have a pretty good idea who’s going to start Game 1. After that, I don’t know. But I do think in that lineup there’s lot of shooting around Luka and DA, and Gabe is another ball handler, another tough defender.

      “I think he fits in well, but you have to take a look at every matchup we play against and have to make a decision there.”

      Redick has downplayed the magnitude of his starting lineup decision repeatedly during training camp, pointing out that he used 25 starting lineups last season.

      He and his team sounded far more concerned about their defense after allowing 59 second-half points to a Kings team that shot 54.7% overall and 44.8% from 3.

      “I think in practice we were more physical,” Doncic said. “We need to work on our physicality.”

      The Lakers were without one of their more physical defenders in center Jaxson Hayes for the second half Friday. He left the game because of a right wrist contusion after finishing a lob dunk in the first quarter. Redick said X-rays on Hayes’ wrist were negative, and the Lakers will have a further update on Hayes when they practice Sunday.

      Former Defensive Player of the Year Marcus Smart, who had 14 points and four steals off the bench against Sacramento, vowed to help with the physicality in the meantime.

      “Just follow my lead,” Smart said. “That’s really it. I’m going to try to set the tone each and every night. And just kind of piggyback off me.”

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    Could Lakers Use Different Fifth Starter To Maximize Match Ups?

    While JJ Redick said the same five who started last night’s game against the Kings would start next Tuesday night’s home season opener against the Warriors, he wouldn’t commit who would be the starters after that game.

    Barring LeBron James return from injury or a needed blockbuster trade, there’s an argument the Lakers should change their fifth starter each game to better optimize their starting lineup matchups against each opponent. The Lakers already know their starting lineup and rotation is going to be temporary, problematic, and vulnerable next month without LeBron so why not use different fifth starters to create better starting matchups?

    For example, Redick might prefer Gabe Vincent as the Lakers’ fifth starter versus the Warriors because he’s an excellent matchup against Steph Curry due to his aggressive point-of-attack defense and red hot 3-point shooting.
    Come Friday night against two-big Timberwolves, JJ could prefer to match up with Minnesota’s oversized lineup and start 6′ 8′ Jarred Vanderbilt, who’s had excellent success in the past guarding the Anthony ‘Ant Man’ Edwards.

    There’s no question the Lakers need to start Doncic, Reaves, Hachimura, and Ayton but, depending on whom they’re playing and the matchups, Vincent, Vanderbilt, or Smart could easily be the team’s fifth starter.
    With multiple contenders in the West rolling out two-bigs lineups, the Lakers could even find themselves starting Hayes or Kleber next to Ayton in a two-bigs lineup when they play a team like the Rockets or Mavericks.

    Until LeBron returns or Pelinka pulls the trigger on a trade, the Lakers would be smart to abandon a fixed starting lineup and deploy different fifth starters to better match up against each opponent’s starting lineup.

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    Lakers impress in dress rehearsal to cap off preseason

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    • From above article:

      The Lakers lost their final preseason game, but the starters looked good and that matters more.

      After five preseason games where they often played with various key rotation players out, on Friday, the Lakers finally had a game they took seriously.

      Head coach JJ Redick called this preseason finale a dress rehearsal for his team.

      No, the Lakers didn’t win, falling 117-116 to the Kings. However, this contest wasn’t about how they finished, but how they started.

      Redick began the game with Luka Dončić, Austin Reaves, Rui Hachimura, Deandre Ayton and Gabe Vincent. All signs point to this being the team’s initial starting lineup, but a coy Redick wouldn’t confirm or deny it during his media availability.

      While Redick might not want to say if this group will start on Tuesday against the Warriors when the regular season begins, they made a compelling case to be the team’s first five.

      All Lakers starters were a positive in the plus-minus department, and four of the five were in double figures. The only player who didn’t break 10 points was Reaves, who has proven to be an offensive powerhouse.

      Vincent being included as a starter was a bit of a surprise. He only started in 11 games out of the 72 he played last year. He was impressive against the Kings.

      Vincent was knocking down open 3-pointers just like he had in Las Vegas against the Mavericks and ended the night going 5-6 from the field, scoring 14 points.

      “I do think in that lineup there’s a lot of shooting around Luka and DA,” Redick said postgame. “And Gabe is another ball handler, another tough defender. I think he fits in well, but you have to take a look at every matchup we play against and have to make a decision there.”

      The rest of the Lakers’ starters followed Vincent’s example and played a relatively sharp game.

      Hachimura was picking his spots well, going 6-10 from the field. Ayton scored 13 points and had a game-high nine rebounds. And Luka was doing what he always does, dominating on-ball, jawing at anyone who wants to listen, and knocking down threes.

      The reserves also performed well. Marcus Smart played for 23 minutes, was diving on the floor, fighting for loose balls and forcing turnovers. He was also a positive factor on offense, scoring 14 points.

      Jaxson Hayes was also a positive shining in his role as the team’s backup big man. Unfortunately, he suffered a wrist contusion and exited the game. The good news is Redick said the X-rays were negative and he’ll have an update on his status likely on Sunday.

      The Lakers stayed in control throughout most of the game and were up 90-86 entering the fourth.

      In the final quarter, they lost that control, but with that period featuring two-way players and end-of-the-bench guys, it’s far from a preview of what we’ll see when the games matter next week.

      All things considered, this game was a net positive for Los Angeles. This contest was a proof of concept that the work they’ve put in during all of training camp is working, and they are ready for the year to start.

      “We’re very prepared,” Smart said. “Obviously, we’ve got some things we’ve got to clean up both defensively and offensively. But everybody’s eager to get out there and ready to perform.”

      The rehearsals are now over. The show will begin for real on Tuesday in LA against Golden State. Let’s see if the Lakers can bring the best they showed on Friday, leave their worst and walk away with a win to start the 2025-26 campaign.

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    Iztok Franko's Lakers vs Kings game observation thread 🧵

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    • Click and follow thread for great points about game from Iztok. Gabe may be starting just because of Steph in opener. JJ not committing to small lineup after first game. Defense needs work, ended up with Reaves & Luka as rim protectors. Smart looked great. Vando’s O is problem. Luka and DA need to work on lobs.

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    Lakers official starting lineup until LeBron is back from injury

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    Tonight's Starters will start on Tuesday night opener

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    Could This 4-Team, 8-Player Trade Transform Lakers Into Champions?

    The Lakers’ four greatest needs are an elite 3&D small forward to defend 2’s and 3’s, 3&D point-of-attack guard to defend 1’s and 2’s, and a pair of bigs to protect the rim and stretch the floor backing up or playing alongside Ayton.

    Here’s a proposed blockbuster 4-team, 8-player trade that fills the Lakers’ greatest roster needs with four legitimate two-way players who can defend their positions and can’t be played off the court offensively in the playoffs. Dillon Brooks is an elite 3&D small forward who guards 2’s and 3’s, Keon Ellis a smart point-of-attack guard who defends 1’s and 2’s, Nick Richards a shot-blocking big, and Kelly Olynyk a versatile big who spaces the floor.

    The Spurs get Maxi Kleber and a 2028 pick swap for Kelly Olynyk and a second round pick that the Lakers send to Kings along with Dalton Knecht for Keon Ellis, who has fallen out of Sacramento’s guard rotation.
    The Suns get Rui Hachimura and Jarred Vanderbilt for Dillon Brooks and Nick Richards, who is now third in Phoenix’s center rotation. Here are the Lakers’ greatly improved starting lineup and depth chart rotation.

    A Lakers’ starting lineup of Luka Doncic, Austin Reaves, Dillon Brooks, Kelly Olynyk, and Deandre Ayton would be bigger and better defensively. Redick has said he wants to play two bigs. Now he really will be able to.
    Replacing Rui and Vando with Dillon and Kelly would upgrade the starters. Adding elite defenders like guard Keon Ellis and center Nick Richards would also strengthen the backups and upgrade their 10-man rotation.

    This is the kind of trade Rob needs to pursue. We cannot go into another season with a roster that has too way more one-way than two-way players. There’s a limit to how much defense you can scheme. We need talent.

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