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    Aloha,

    It’s trade season again and the expectation seems to be that the Lakers will make one. But what if they can’t? Personally I think it’s more likely that the Lakers won’t be able to make a big trade than making one.

    Take Murray for instance. The Hawks do not want DLO. That make sense. The two PG experiment didn’t work with Murray so why would it work with DLO? So the Lakers need to find a third team. This is where it gets tricky. The Lakers not only need to find a third team that will take on DLO but also has something of value for the Hawks. And we really can’t pay a team to take him because our first round pick needs to go to the Hawks. Last year the Lakers lucked out because we were the third team. The Timber Wolves wanted Conley and we had the assets to help make it happen.

    I am not even sure that landing Murray increases our odds for a championship. For me, health is still the biggest factor. The Lakers are 21 and 12 when fewer than 3 rotation players are out. And that doesn’t even take under consideration that guys and the team has to find a rhythm when players return. One can only imagine what if Vando had been available all year after watching him play recently now that he is healthy and in playing condition.

    Murray would help our perimeter defense but by how much? DLO is currently on a hot streak and it is unrealistic that he maintains this level of play, still as the third option would Murray out perform DLO’s 17 points, 6 1/2 assists and 42% 3 point shooting? Plus, while DLO isn’t a lock down defender he has been decent at team defense. While Murray hasn’t resembled the defender he was a few years ago. Considering we can insert Vando and Cam when better defense is required, I’m not sure that a Murray trade would be much more than a wash at best.

    Unless something unexpected happens I am beginning to think that holding off on a trade until the summer when will have more assets available maybe the best scenario moving forward.

    What if?

    Aloha,

    It’s trade season again and the expectation seems to be that the Lakers will make one. But what if they can’t? Personally I think it’s more likely that the Lakers won’t be able to make a big trade than making one.

    Take Murray for instance. The Hawks do not want DLO. That make sense. The two PG experiment didn’t work with Murray so why would it work with DLO? So the Lakers need to find a third team. This is where it gets tricky. The Lakers not only need to find a third team that will take on DLO but also has something of value for the Hawks. And we really can’t pay a team to take him because our first round pick needs to go to the Hawks. Last year the Lakers lucked out because we were the third team. The Timber Wolves wanted Conley and we had the assets to help make it happen.

    I am not even sure that landing Murray increases our odds for a championship. For me, health is still the biggest factor. The Lakers are 21 and 12 when fewer than 3 rotation players are out. And that doesn’t even take under consideration that guys and the team has to find a rhythm when players return. One can only imagine what if Vando had been available all year after watching him play recently now that he is healthy and in playing condition.

    Murray would help our perimeter defense but by how much? DLO is currently on a hot streak and it is unrealistic that he maintains this level of play, still as the third option would Murray out perform DLO’s 17 points, 6 1/2 assists and 42% 3 point shooting? Plus, while DLO isn’t a lock down defender he has been decent at team defense. While Murray hasn’t resembled the defender he was a few years ago. Considering we can insert Vando and Cam when better defense is required, I’m not sure that a Murray trade would be much more than a wash at best.

    Unless something unexpected happens I am beginning to think that holding off on a trade until the summer when will have more assets available maybe the best scenario moving forward.

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    • Interesting note. Just read an article that says Quin Snyder, the Hawks coach has been lobbying to keep Murray. We will see how much influence he has on the front office.

    • “Unless something unexpected happens I am beginning to think that holding off on a trade until the summer when will have more assets available maybe the best scenario moving forward.”

      Yep, that’s exactly my thoughts, too.

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    Aloha,

    I think this was what the team was meant to look like. Contributions from the whole squad. AD and LeBron both had good games but it was the others that got this win. 6 players in double figures and great team defense. While we still have 2 guys are out we have enough guys returning to make a difference.

    Vando is beginning to look like Vando again. While his stat line doesn’t jump out at you except the 3 steals. he played 18 minutes of elite defense, mostly against SGA.

    It’s so good to have Rui back. While he is still on minutes restriction, he scored 12 points and was 2 for 3 from 3. He also played solid defense and had 2 blocks.

    Christian Wood is finally looking comfortable and has played well the last several games. 11 points 7 boards and 3 blocks.

    I was worried about our back court defense with DLO and Austin starting together but over all they played well. DLO definitely has improved his defense and several good defensive plays.

    Holding a team like OKC to 105 is a very good effort. This is the vision Rob had when he put this team together. Now we just have to keep it going.

    The Way It was supposed To Be

    Aloha,

    I think this was what the team was meant to look like. Contributions from the whole squad. AD and LeBron both had good games but it was the others that got this win. 6 players in double figures and great team defense. While we still have 2 guys are out we have enough guys returning to make a difference.

    Vando is beginning to look like Vando again. While his stat line doesn’t jump out at you except the 3 steals. he played 18 minutes of elite defense, mostly against SGA.

    It’s so good to have Rui back. While he is still on minutes restriction, he scored 12 points and was 2 for 3 from 3. He also played solid defense and had 2 blocks.

    Christian Wood is finally looking comfortable and has played well the last several games. 11 points 7 boards and 3 blocks.

    I was worried about our back court defense with DLO and Austin starting together but over all they played well. DLO definitely has improved his defense and several good defensive plays.

    Holding a team like OKC to 105 is a very good effort. This is the vision Rob had when he put this team together. Now we just have to keep it going.

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    • Yup, it was a very impressive win with total team effort.

    • Aloha, Michael. Great post!

      That was certainly a breath of fresh air in a terrible season and finally, a win where our PIP and FTM blueprint to overcome our 3PM issues worked. I’m also of the opinion that Ham was pretty much ordered to start DLO and AR. Front office likes to use injury situations to cloak ordered changes in lineups to cover for Ham.

      The key to me was our size and how Davis, Wood, and Hachimura controlled the boards and the paint. There’s also no question that our size is a matchup issue for the Thunder, who clearly do not want to have to play the Lakers in the playoffs.

      This was a big win and hopefully it can spark a turnaround so the Lakers don’t end up 5 games under .500 at the trade deadline like they did last season. Wed game vs. Mavs is big. Schedule then gets easier. If Lakers can somehow bottle what they did last night, they could move up the standings a little and give the front office some time to make the right deal.

      Knowing this team, though, I still believe Pelinka is trying to make a deal now rather than waiting to the first week of February, which could easily be too late for the Lakers to legitimately contend.

      • Thanks Tom. I’m not sure what’s going to happen. Rob might be ready to make a trade but that doesn’t mean the other teams are. Currently there isn’t a lot of available players that we know of and a lot of teams looking to upgrade their roster. Take Murray for instance, there are at least 4 other teams that have expressed interest. It’s smart for the Hawks to wait for the absolute best offer. There is the risk that interest will dry up if more players become available, but for now waiting is the smart move for them.

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    Aloha,
    Perhaps I’m not as upset with last night as some are. First the Jazz were at home and are extremely hot right now. 5 of their last 7 wins have come against the Nuggets, the 76ers, the Bucks, the Heat and the Mavs, so they were going to be a challenge to beat.

    2nd the Jazz threw AD’s rhythm off, sent a double every time he touched the ball. Usually the two bigs. He had 10 assists but missed a lot of shots he normally makes. Now with LeBron there would be no way they could defend AD the same way. Plus they could not have stopped LeBron inside. None of their bigs are strong enough.

    3rd. Other guys stepped up. DLO was unconscious. He showed his value when he is the primary ball handler without LeBron. Even when LeBron returns I think he should start. Austin, who also played well was much more comfortable as the off guard and wasn’t over dribbling into the teeth of the defense. Off the bench he was in the conversation for 6th man of the year. I think that’s his best spot.

    It was nice having Rui back. It was a shame he was on a minute restriction because they clearly had no answer for him. Like LeBron he was just too strong for their bigs. After a stretch of good play, Darvin had stated he would be starting before his last injury. He should start Rui as soon as he is back up to speed. Cam is clearly fighting an injury after having to leave the game after 11 minutes. It’s the perfect time to insert Rui.

    I don’t see a trade happening anytime soon. So until a trade materializes I think a starting lineup of DLO, Prince, Rui, LeBron and AD gives us the best chance. With proper rotations I think our 2nd unit would be solid as well.
    While Rui isn’t as good as Vando or Cam on defense, he is pretty good and he is a real offensive threat with helps open up things for AD and LeBron.

    A line up change is as important as a trade.

    Aloha,
    Perhaps I’m not as upset with last night as some are. First the Jazz were at home and are extremely hot right now. 5 of their last 7 wins have come against the Nuggets, the 76ers, the Bucks, the Heat and the Mavs, so they were going to be a challenge to beat.

    2nd the Jazz threw AD’s rhythm off, sent a double every time he touched the ball. Usually the two bigs. He had 10 assists but missed a lot of shots he normally makes. Now with LeBron there would be no way they could defend AD the same way. Plus they could not have stopped LeBron inside. None of their bigs are strong enough.

    3rd. Other guys stepped up. DLO was unconscious. He showed his value when he is the primary ball handler without LeBron. Even when LeBron returns I think he should start. Austin, who also played well was much more comfortable as the off guard and wasn’t over dribbling into the teeth of the defense. Off the bench he was in the conversation for 6th man of the year. I think that’s his best spot.

    It was nice having Rui back. It was a shame he was on a minute restriction because they clearly had no answer for him. Like LeBron he was just too strong for their bigs. After a stretch of good play, Darvin had stated he would be starting before his last injury. He should start Rui as soon as he is back up to speed. Cam is clearly fighting an injury after having to leave the game after 11 minutes. It’s the perfect time to insert Rui.

    I don’t see a trade happening anytime soon. So until a trade materializes I think a starting lineup of DLO, Prince, Rui, LeBron and AD gives us the best chance. With proper rotations I think our 2nd unit would be solid as well.
    While Rui isn’t as good as Vando or Cam on defense, he is pretty good and he is a real offensive threat with helps open up things for AD and LeBron.

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    • Let LBJ play a wing shooter.

    • Michael, I would say, for some reason, I did not feel any pain in the loss last night besides only adding to our loss column. The guys played well, and, as you said, the outcome would have been different had LeBron played. Regarding the starting lineup of Dlo, Rui, Prince, LeBron, and AD, I think Ham needs to try that, as I, just like you, don’t expect any trade. That might be the lineup that could unlock our secret. Who knows?

      • I The think it’s worth a try too Buba. Thing about Rui, he got hurt. Came back played well. Got hurt came back, played well and got hurt again. With injuries it’s easy to forget about him. But last night he way having his way with the Jazz and played well on defense. It’s a shame he was on minutes restriction. He could have been a difference making when our offense stalled in the 4th.

    • We’re already 2 games under .500 with 12 games to go before the trade deadline. This team just needs to play better and it would help if the coach removed Cam and Vando from the starting lineup. Neither is helping enough defensively to make up for their cost offensively. They’re not starters at this point.

      I think your suggested lineup is as good as we’re going to get. At least start five guys who can shoot so we can play 5 on 5 instead of 3 and 4 on 5 like we have been doing so far this season. I like moving Prince to the two and playing Rui. Another way to get more size and athleticism into the starting lineup.

      Bottom line, though, I’m hoping we have a trade lined up to execute now because a lineup change is not going to be enough in my opinion to allow us to have a better record at the deadline this season than last season. We need a trade and now, not after it’s too late.

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    Aloha,

    Well that was stupid. We shot 50% The Suns shot 49%. The Suns shot 36% from 3 making 14. We shot 38% making 13. Sounds like an even game until you consider the 17 turnovers and 13 offensive boards. The Suns took 13 more shots than we did. Ball game. You would think giving up 127 points meant bad defense but it was more like bad offense. We were always trying to defend in transition. The Suns scored 17 points off of only 9 turnovers in the first half, they were almost all live ball turnovers and it seemed like they all ended in made 3’s or and ones.

    We are not going to win many games when LeBron scores 10 point with 4 awful turnovers and AD scores 13 with 5 rebounds. The thing that irritated me most was the lack of effort in trying to get AD the ball. Tonight the others scored 86. That normally would lead to a blowout. It was a blowout all right.

    And of course we continue to be snake bit with injuries. Wood who has been playing well missed due to a migraine. And Cam got hurt 8 minutes into the game. We could have really used his defense.we were only down 5 when he left. We can’t beat the top heavy teams with our starting line up but our advantage is supposed to lay with our depth. But our depth is rarely available. Rui, Wood and Cam could have helped. And of course Vincent was brought in for his on ball defense. That would have been extremely beneficial tonight.

    I’m thinking we should start DLO again. Austin was playing his best ball off the bench. He was being mentioned as a 6th man of the year candidate. But he’s struggling as a starter again. He was targeted all game. Even though DLO is not a great defender, he was better than Austin. Plus Dlo is a natural PG. Austin is a combo guard. I like Austin better when he’s paired with LeBron on the 2nd unit.

    All in all it was a crappy effort. More so by LeBron and AD. They have to lead the charge and neither could tonight.

    Pretty Stupid game

    Aloha,

    Well that was stupid. We shot 50% The Suns shot 49%. The Suns shot 36% from 3 making 14. We shot 38% making 13. Sounds like an even game until you consider the 17 turnovers and 13 offensive boards. The Suns took 13 more shots than we did. Ball game. You would think giving up 127 points meant bad defense but it was more like bad offense. We were always trying to defend in transition. The Suns scored 17 points off of only 9 turnovers in the first half, they were almost all live ball turnovers and it seemed like they all ended in made 3’s or and ones.

    We are not going to win many games when LeBron scores 10 point with 4 awful turnovers and AD scores 13 with 5 rebounds. The thing that irritated me most was the lack of effort in trying to get AD the ball. Tonight the others scored 86. That normally would lead to a blowout. It was a blowout all right.

    And of course we continue to be snake bit with injuries. Wood who has been playing well missed due to a migraine. And Cam got hurt 8 minutes into the game. We could have really used his defense.we were only down 5 when he left. We can’t beat the top heavy teams with our starting line up but our advantage is supposed to lay with our depth. But our depth is rarely available. Rui, Wood and Cam could have helped. And of course Vincent was brought in for his on ball defense. That would have been extremely beneficial tonight.

    I’m thinking we should start DLO again. Austin was playing his best ball off the bench. He was being mentioned as a 6th man of the year candidate. But he’s struggling as a starter again. He was targeted all game. Even though DLO is not a great defender, he was better than Austin. Plus Dlo is a natural PG. Austin is a combo guard. I like Austin better when he’s paired with LeBron on the 2nd unit.

    All in all it was a crappy effort. More so by LeBron and AD. They have to lead the charge and neither could tonight.

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    • When all else fails, you count on your “superstars” to carry you. Lebron ain’t that guy but once a month and AD when he kinda feels like it. Play-in territory again . . . if they’re lucky.

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    Aloha,

    This was a much needed win and the fact that it came against the Clippers, the hottest team in the league, made it special. This game demonstrated how the Lakers need to play to win. Both AD and LeBron played well but we didn’t need a super human, heroic effort from either to win. We got contributions from everyone. As currently constructed we are not contenders but we are better than we have been playing recently.

    If AD isn’t the DPOY, I don’t know who is. He successfully guarded PG, Kawhi and Harden at different times. But we definitely have to do a better job on the boards when AD is guarding the perimeter because Zu killed us on the boards when AD did.

    LeBron redeemed himself on defense last night. After a lackluster effort against JJJ in the last game, he was solid against Kawhi.

    C Wood did a nice job subbing in for both AD and LeBron. He has played better the last few games. Hopefully he has turned the corner and will continue to contribute because we need him.

    Not sure what to do about Cam. He plays terrific defense but seems to make a boneheaded play for each great play he makes. 5 turnovers in 20 minutes is unacceptable. And his forays into the paint do seem to have any plan at all once he gets there. He did hit a couple of 3’s which we needed.

    Vando has quietly been playing himself back into shape and he was terrific on defense last night. I thought he and Wood had a great synergy last night that I hope to see moving forward.

    After shaking off the rust, DLO had a nice 2nd half. He made some big shots and 6 assists but just having a point guard playing with LeBron was huge. I think it actually helped LeBron conserve some energy for defense. Speaking of defense DLO did a pretty good job on that end as well.

    Max continues to contribute when given the opportunity. I actually wish he had gotten a few of Cam’s minutes.

    This win looked like how the Lakers were supposed to look this year. Contribution up and down the line up. Injuries really hurt our ability to grow as a unit. Hopefully we can have a little more luck moving forward with that. Darvin had said he was going to start Rui until he got hurt. I hope he does. A starting unit of Austin, Prince, Rui, AD and LeBron would be solid. But more importantly if we can get healthy a 2nd until of DLO, Vando, Cam, Wood and Max will be really good. And who knows Vincent might even play someday: A lot of the top teams may have more stars starting but when you look at their benches, they are pretty thin. I don’t have a lot of hope for a big trade with all the buyers that will be out there. But if LeBron and AD hold up and we finally stay healthy, we will be a competitive teams

    A few thoughts

    Aloha,

    This was a much needed win and the fact that it came against the Clippers, the hottest team in the league, made it special. This game demonstrated how the Lakers need to play to win. Both AD and LeBron played well but we didn’t need a super human, heroic effort from either to win. We got contributions from everyone. As currently constructed we are not contenders but we are better than we have been playing recently.

    If AD isn’t the DPOY, I don’t know who is. He successfully guarded PG, Kawhi and Harden at different times. But we definitely have to do a better job on the boards when AD is guarding the perimeter because Zu killed us on the boards when AD did.

    LeBron redeemed himself on defense last night. After a lackluster effort against JJJ in the last game, he was solid against Kawhi.

    C Wood did a nice job subbing in for both AD and LeBron. He has played better the last few games. Hopefully he has turned the corner and will continue to contribute because we need him.

    Not sure what to do about Cam. He plays terrific defense but seems to make a boneheaded play for each great play he makes. 5 turnovers in 20 minutes is unacceptable. And his forays into the paint do seem to have any plan at all once he gets there. He did hit a couple of 3’s which we needed.

    Vando has quietly been playing himself back into shape and he was terrific on defense last night. I thought he and Wood had a great synergy last night that I hope to see moving forward.

    After shaking off the rust, DLO had a nice 2nd half. He made some big shots and 6 assists but just having a point guard playing with LeBron was huge. I think it actually helped LeBron conserve some energy for defense. Speaking of defense DLO did a pretty good job on that end as well.

    Max continues to contribute when given the opportunity. I actually wish he had gotten a few of Cam’s minutes.

    This win looked like how the Lakers were supposed to look this year. Contribution up and down the line up. Injuries really hurt our ability to grow as a unit. Hopefully we can have a little more luck moving forward with that. Darvin had said he was going to start Rui until he got hurt. I hope he does. A starting unit of Austin, Prince, Rui, AD and LeBron would be solid. But more importantly if we can get healthy a 2nd until of DLO, Vando, Cam, Wood and Max will be really good. And who knows Vincent might even play someday: A lot of the top teams may have more stars starting but when you look at their benches, they are pretty thin. I don’t have a lot of hope for a big trade with all the buyers that will be out there. But if LeBron and AD hold up and we finally stay healthy, we will be a competitive teams

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    Aloha,

    For those who think a trade is going to turn this around, it’s not. Besides, the trade market is full of buyers and very few sellers so competition for those players that do hit the market will be fierce.

    It will be up to the players and coaches to turn this season around. I actually place more blame on coaching in this last game. It was apparent that they did not want Ja to beat them and they collapsed the paint all night. While it did work to some degree, Ja was 7 for 17, there was no adjustments made when the Griz got hot from 3. Sure the Griz is a bad 3 point shooting team but even a poor 3 point shooter will hit shots if left completely alone.

    We have AD, yet the coaches never adjusted. When we were playing good defense earlier in the year, our perimeter defenders got up on players, knowing AD had their backs. At some point an adjustment needed to be made. Not only were guys collapsing but they dropped to deep, making it impossible to challenge.

    Yes Smart is a poor 3 point shooter and he did make a couple of contested shots but for the most part he was left alone to make what amounted to practice shots. JJJ shoots a set shot 3, yet LeBron was so far off him he could get that shot off with no problem.

    I really don’t know what the answer is but players and coaches a like need to take a long look in the mirror and decide if they want to turn it around or not. These kind of performances can not continue.

    No trade will save us

    Aloha,

    For those who think a trade is going to turn this around, it’s not. Besides, the trade market is full of buyers and very few sellers so competition for those players that do hit the market will be fierce.

    It will be up to the players and coaches to turn this season around. I actually place more blame on coaching in this last game. It was apparent that they did not want Ja to beat them and they collapsed the paint all night. While it did work to some degree, Ja was 7 for 17, there was no adjustments made when the Griz got hot from 3. Sure the Griz is a bad 3 point shooting team but even a poor 3 point shooter will hit shots if left completely alone.

    We have AD, yet the coaches never adjusted. When we were playing good defense earlier in the year, our perimeter defenders got up on players, knowing AD had their backs. At some point an adjustment needed to be made. Not only were guys collapsing but they dropped to deep, making it impossible to challenge.

    Yes Smart is a poor 3 point shooter and he did make a couple of contested shots but for the most part he was left alone to make what amounted to practice shots. JJJ shoots a set shot 3, yet LeBron was so far off him he could get that shot off with no problem.

    I really don’t know what the answer is but players and coaches a like need to take a long look in the mirror and decide if they want to turn it around or not. These kind of performances can not continue.

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    • There’s no trade because the cap is clogged with guys underperforming their deals, most notably the biggest salary on the roster.

    • Agreed Michael, although I personally would advocate a trade for Smart I doubt Memphis would move him with the team on the rise as-is.

      This vibe is bad. When the two best players ball out, team plays OK, and you lose because of a lack of a coach making an in-game adjustment (in this case Memphis getting red hot from three) its a huge issue I’m not sure a trade can solve.

    • I am getting completely deflated with all these losses. Such a sad moment to be a Lakers fan.

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    Aloha,

    Lakers lead the league in player games lost to injury 99, back to back games 7, road games and miles traveled and games played.

    We are Number one

    Aloha,

    Lakers lead the league in player games lost to injury 99, back to back games 7, road games and miles traveled and games played.

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    Aloha,

    Phil Jackson use to circle games on the schedule what he called schedule losses. He would have circled this game. We played a hard fought game down to the wire against the team with the best record in the west. We fly into New Orleans at 3:20am for an early 6pm game. Then we find out two more rotation players are out. Then to top it off we lose Rui after 7 minutes. Still we managed to hang around most of the game, tired legs and all.

    The schedule and injuries have just been brutal. The Lakers lead the league in back to backs this year with 7. In comparison, the T Wolves have had 2 and they have been healthy.

    The schedule turns around for us in January. We only leave LA once. But we have to get healthy. We have had guys coming back but we haven’t had a healthy group long enough to find a rhythm as a team. And if you are waiting for trades to turn it around, they won’t matter if we can field a healthy team. Let’s hope this long stretch home cooking to turn things around.

    What do you do🤷‍♂️

    Aloha,

    Phil Jackson use to circle games on the schedule what he called schedule losses. He would have circled this game. We played a hard fought game down to the wire against the team with the best record in the west. We fly into New Orleans at 3:20am for an early 6pm game. Then we find out two more rotation players are out. Then to top it off we lose Rui after 7 minutes. Still we managed to hang around most of the game, tired legs and all.

    The schedule and injuries have just been brutal. The Lakers lead the league in back to backs this year with 7. In comparison, the T Wolves have had 2 and they have been healthy.

    The schedule turns around for us in January. We only leave LA once. But we have to get healthy. We have had guys coming back but we haven’t had a healthy group long enough to find a rhythm as a team. And if you are waiting for trades to turn it around, they won’t matter if we can field a healthy team. Let’s hope this long stretch home cooking to turn things around.

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    Aloha,

    I rarely speculate on trades but one jumped out to me. The Hawks have coveted Siakam. They came close to trading for him last year. Hunter was the guy the Raptors wanted. The problem this year is Siakam 37 mil contract. Hunter is making 20 mil. I doubt that the Raptors would want to bring in Murray as well because they just acquired Quickly and it would be redundant. The Hawks could send the Raptors Hunter and draft picks for Siakam. We could send the Raptors DLO, our 2029 pick and we may have to include Max as sweetener. And the Hawks send us a Murray. This move would make sense for everyone. Murray’s salary jumps to 25 mil next year so that may not be appealing. While Dennis a fine PG he is most suited off the bench. Quickly is more of a combo guard. The Raptors also struggle from 3. DLO gives them a true PG that can shoot. Win, Win, win all around.

    Could the Lakers help the Hawks

    Aloha,

    I rarely speculate on trades but one jumped out to me. The Hawks have coveted Siakam. They came close to trading for him last year. Hunter was the guy the Raptors wanted. The problem this year is Siakam 37 mil contract. Hunter is making 20 mil. I doubt that the Raptors would want to bring in Murray as well because they just acquired Quickly and it would be redundant. The Hawks could send the Raptors Hunter and draft picks for Siakam. We could send the Raptors DLO, our 2029 pick and we may have to include Max as sweetener. And the Hawks send us a Murray. This move would make sense for everyone. Murray’s salary jumps to 25 mil next year so that may not be appealing. While Dennis a fine PG he is most suited off the bench. Quickly is more of a combo guard. The Raptors also struggle from 3. DLO gives them a true PG that can shoot. Win, Win, win all around.

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    Aloha,

    It wasn’t so much that we won the game, that was expected. It was how we did it that was unusual. We were up 10 when AD and LeBron went out in the 3rd and won by 21. With the lead peaking at 27. This is something you don’t see every game. The others were the story.
    Rui +34
    Wood+19
    Dlo+18
    Max+18
    Austin+9
    AD+6
    LeBron+1

    Over the last 4 games the Lakers are 53-117 from 3. 45%•.

    It was nice to see DLO and Wood hitting their 3’s. DLO 4-7, Wood 3-3.

    Max has a future in this league. 10 points, 7 boards, 3 assists, 2 blocks and a steal. What impresses me the most is how solid he is on defense at 20 years old. He makes mistakes but he has shut down potential.

    Rui is beginning to find his rhythm. And he is playing quality defense as well. He needs to play more minutesZ

    AD continues to dominate and it doesn’t matter the quality of the opponent. He is destroying everyone. 26 8 and 4 blocks in 26 minutes. By the way he has now played in 79 of the 83 games.

    Austin is becoming one of the craftiest player in the league. That behind the back layup was often.

    Jackson Hayes, instant offense 10 points in 7 minutes.

    On to the TWolves. We played them tough last time without LeBron. If our others continue to play well we will have an excellent chance of winning.

    A few thoughts

    Aloha,

    It wasn’t so much that we won the game, that was expected. It was how we did it that was unusual. We were up 10 when AD and LeBron went out in the 3rd and won by 21. With the lead peaking at 27. This is something you don’t see every game. The others were the story.
    Rui +34
    Wood+19
    Dlo+18
    Max+18
    Austin+9
    AD+6
    LeBron+1

    Over the last 4 games the Lakers are 53-117 from 3. 45%•.

    It was nice to see DLO and Wood hitting their 3’s. DLO 4-7, Wood 3-3.

    Max has a future in this league. 10 points, 7 boards, 3 assists, 2 blocks and a steal. What impresses me the most is how solid he is on defense at 20 years old. He makes mistakes but he has shut down potential.

    Rui is beginning to find his rhythm. And he is playing quality defense as well. He needs to play more minutesZ

    AD continues to dominate and it doesn’t matter the quality of the opponent. He is destroying everyone. 26 8 and 4 blocks in 26 minutes. By the way he has now played in 79 of the 83 games.

    Austin is becoming one of the craftiest player in the league. That behind the back layup was often.

    Jackson Hayes, instant offense 10 points in 7 minutes.

    On to the TWolves. We played them tough last time without LeBron. If our others continue to play well we will have an excellent chance of winning.

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    Aloha,

    Merry Christmas everyone. Santa certainly delivered a lump of coal with the Vincent news. First and foremost he was brought in for his defense and toughness. He would have been the designated defender for the small, quick point guards in the league. Recovery time for his surgery is 6 to 8 weeks. I’m not sure if that includes ramp up time or not. If it doesn’t, it could mean that we don’t see Vincent again until March.

    It seems that Santa has been deliver coal to us all season long, with all the injuries. It makes one wonder if Santa has stock in a coal mine. While we finally have all our other guys back, it doesn’t mean we are back as a team. Availability and truly back are not the same things. The revolving line ups have robbed us of the continuity and chemistry that a team needs to play at a high level. It will take more time for players to settle into their roles.

    Vincents injuries has other ramifications beyond his availability. If you were looking to use Vincent as a trade chip, that knee injury, coupled with two more years on his contract, will make trading him, problematic at best. It also narrows the kind of trade one can make using DLO. You almost have to bring back a quality PG. Not seeing those so far on the market.

    But it’s not all bad news. The last two games have given me hope that we can turn this around. Against OKC our offense was clicking and our defense did enough against a quality team. I hear repeatedly that this team needs to trade for a 3 point shooter. We have 3 point shooters. LeBron 41%, Rui, 40%, Prince after a slow start 39%, Dlo 38% and Austin after a slow start is now almost 37%. In this last game Lebron was 5/5, Rui 3/5, DLo 3/6 Prince and Austin each went 2/5. That’s how a Lebron run offense looks. On a Lebron led to the ball finds the open man. It’s more important to have several guys around him that can hit a 3 than one volume shooter. While I believe we need to shoot more 3’s, the team needs to work at creating more 3 point looks. A trade does nothing if it doesn’t. I have heard bloggers call for a Bojan for Rui trade. Why in the world would you do that. Bojan is 34, a poor rebounder 2.7 in 32 minutes, Rui gets 4 in 24 minutes. Rui is a pretty good defender, Bojan is not. And Rui at 40% from 3 is about the same as Bojan. Instead of trading Rui, maybe run actions to get him or any of our other shooters more 3 point shots.

    I believe internal improvements will be the key for this team. We just do not have the trade assets to compete with teams like Thunder, the Knicks and the Pacers who are all sitting on piles of draft capital and young players im hoping guys like Cam can find his shot again. maybe wood can as well. Give Rui more minutes. A pie in the shy trade isn’t going to happen. Maybe something small, I dot see anything major happening. Hopefully we can stay healthy long enough to jell as a unit. Only then will we truly know what we need.

    Best the Celtics!

    Merry Christmas

    Aloha,

    Merry Christmas everyone. Santa certainly delivered a lump of coal with the Vincent news. First and foremost he was brought in for his defense and toughness. He would have been the designated defender for the small, quick point guards in the league. Recovery time for his surgery is 6 to 8 weeks. I’m not sure if that includes ramp up time or not. If it doesn’t, it could mean that we don’t see Vincent again until March.

    It seems that Santa has been deliver coal to us all season long, with all the injuries. It makes one wonder if Santa has stock in a coal mine. While we finally have all our other guys back, it doesn’t mean we are back as a team. Availability and truly back are not the same things. The revolving line ups have robbed us of the continuity and chemistry that a team needs to play at a high level. It will take more time for players to settle into their roles.

    Vincents injuries has other ramifications beyond his availability. If you were looking to use Vincent as a trade chip, that knee injury, coupled with two more years on his contract, will make trading him, problematic at best. It also narrows the kind of trade one can make using DLO. You almost have to bring back a quality PG. Not seeing those so far on the market.

    But it’s not all bad news. The last two games have given me hope that we can turn this around. Against OKC our offense was clicking and our defense did enough against a quality team. I hear repeatedly that this team needs to trade for a 3 point shooter. We have 3 point shooters. LeBron 41%, Rui, 40%, Prince after a slow start 39%, Dlo 38% and Austin after a slow start is now almost 37%. In this last game Lebron was 5/5, Rui 3/5, DLo 3/6 Prince and Austin each went 2/5. That’s how a Lebron run offense looks. On a Lebron led to the ball finds the open man. It’s more important to have several guys around him that can hit a 3 than one volume shooter. While I believe we need to shoot more 3’s, the team needs to work at creating more 3 point looks. A trade does nothing if it doesn’t. I have heard bloggers call for a Bojan for Rui trade. Why in the world would you do that. Bojan is 34, a poor rebounder 2.7 in 32 minutes, Rui gets 4 in 24 minutes. Rui is a pretty good defender, Bojan is not. And Rui at 40% from 3 is about the same as Bojan. Instead of trading Rui, maybe run actions to get him or any of our other shooters more 3 point shots.

    I believe internal improvements will be the key for this team. We just do not have the trade assets to compete with teams like Thunder, the Knicks and the Pacers who are all sitting on piles of draft capital and young players im hoping guys like Cam can find his shot again. maybe wood can as well. Give Rui more minutes. A pie in the shy trade isn’t going to happen. Maybe something small, I dot see anything major happening. Hopefully we can stay healthy long enough to jell as a unit. Only then will we truly know what we need.

    Best the Celtics!

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    Aloha,

    That was encouraging. Actually I was encouraged last game as well, playing the number 1 seed and battling without LeBron. Tonight it was the number 2 seed with the 4th ranked defense in league and we scored 129. OKC made a late run but that’s expected. They are really good. What is really scary about OKC is they have the assets to get any player they want that comes on the trade market. They have been reluctant to pay big bucks in the past, hopefully that continues.

    The big line up was pretty good. They gave up a lot of 1st quarter points but OKC made a lot of really tough shots. You knew they could not keep that up.

    What’s left to say about LeBron. He had his best game of the year when we needed it most. And efficient. 65% shooting and 3 for 5 from 3.

    It must of been frustrating for OKC. They doubled and tripled AD every time he touched the ball and he still scored 26. And those doubles led to AD’s 7 assists and good shots all around.

    Can we can please continue to give Rui more minutes. He was very good again tonight. 21 points and 3 for 5 from 3. And he also played some nice defense as well. It appears that he is finding his rhythm and maybe getting use to playing with that mask.

    DLO was very good. 15 points in 17 minutes. With Him, Rui and Austin coming off the bench, it gave us a lot of fire power. 47 points to be exact.

    We won the 3 point game tonight. 16 made to 13 but even more importantly 50%.

    Cam and Vando didn’t score much but their defense was impressive. And Cam was a team high +13 and had 7 assists to boot. Still he will need to be better shooting the ball.

    If we can play with this kind of energy we will beat the Celtics on Christmas.

    That was fun

    Aloha,

    That was encouraging. Actually I was encouraged last game as well, playing the number 1 seed and battling without LeBron. Tonight it was the number 2 seed with the 4th ranked defense in league and we scored 129. OKC made a late run but that’s expected. They are really good. What is really scary about OKC is they have the assets to get any player they want that comes on the trade market. They have been reluctant to pay big bucks in the past, hopefully that continues.

    The big line up was pretty good. They gave up a lot of 1st quarter points but OKC made a lot of really tough shots. You knew they could not keep that up.

    What’s left to say about LeBron. He had his best game of the year when we needed it most. And efficient. 65% shooting and 3 for 5 from 3.

    It must of been frustrating for OKC. They doubled and tripled AD every time he touched the ball and he still scored 26. And those doubles led to AD’s 7 assists and good shots all around.

    Can we can please continue to give Rui more minutes. He was very good again tonight. 21 points and 3 for 5 from 3. And he also played some nice defense as well. It appears that he is finding his rhythm and maybe getting use to playing with that mask.

    DLO was very good. 15 points in 17 minutes. With Him, Rui and Austin coming off the bench, it gave us a lot of fire power. 47 points to be exact.

    We won the 3 point game tonight. 16 made to 13 but even more importantly 50%.

    Cam and Vando didn’t score much but their defense was impressive. And Cam was a team high +13 and had 7 assists to boot. Still he will need to be better shooting the ball.

    If we can play with this kind of energy we will beat the Celtics on Christmas.

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    • What was so great about this game was almost every player who had minutes contributed, including Cam and Vando and DLo.

      There is a damn good 8-man playoff rotation there.

      Does the team need a superstar? Only if it’s Lauri.

      Otherwise, go get a big like Gafford or Olynyk and a shooter like Rozier or Bogdanovic.

      Maybe a backup point guard. But that’s all this team needs to be a legitimate contender this year imo.

    • There are games every season that you’re gonna win no matter what. This felt like one of them. I guess hovering barely above .500 beats having to scrape and claw back from well below it. Can this squad show up on Christmas? I’d hate to get clowned by one of the league’s true contenders on the real opening day, but it feels inevitable.

    • “If we can play with this kind of energy we will beat the Celtics on Christmas.” That is bold and very true!!

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    Aloha,

    Well this should be interesting. After going through Dennis, Russ and DLO we are back to where we started in the bubble, with LeBron at the point. On the defensive end, I think this can work. The bubble team had really good 6’ 5 and 6’ 6” wings with LeBron. This line up has 6’ 8” Cam and 6’ 10” Vando. Vando is still playing himself back into shape but Darvin obviously believes he is ready. The offensive side is the concern. Prince will have to continue to knock down 3’s and Cam will need to find the range as well. We still need AD to dominate and we need guys hitting 3’s to space the floor. While DLO has been slumping, teams still had to account for him.

    I’m curious to see how the rotations will look. That will be key. Our bench will consist of 3 guards, Rui and Probably Hayes. So the rotation will be super important. I really don’t want to see 3 guard line ups. You might see Vincent as the first guard off the bench. We brought him in to guard the quick guards like SGA. This certainly will be interesting.

    If it works you may not need a point guard back if we were to trade DLO. We could always sign an emergency PG if we traded DLO for a non PG. But I don’t know who that would be yet. I don’t think we will know who is really on the trade market for several weeks. Right now it’s mostly speculation from writers. In thing I don’t want to see is Rui in a trade unless it’s for an upgrade at the 4. I do not want Wood as our primary back up at the 4. He has been terrible.

    This experiment may tell us a lot about the direction we go in the trade market.

    Should be interesting

    Aloha,

    Well this should be interesting. After going through Dennis, Russ and DLO we are back to where we started in the bubble, with LeBron at the point. On the defensive end, I think this can work. The bubble team had really good 6’ 5 and 6’ 6” wings with LeBron. This line up has 6’ 8” Cam and 6’ 10” Vando. Vando is still playing himself back into shape but Darvin obviously believes he is ready. The offensive side is the concern. Prince will have to continue to knock down 3’s and Cam will need to find the range as well. We still need AD to dominate and we need guys hitting 3’s to space the floor. While DLO has been slumping, teams still had to account for him.

    I’m curious to see how the rotations will look. That will be key. Our bench will consist of 3 guards, Rui and Probably Hayes. So the rotation will be super important. I really don’t want to see 3 guard line ups. You might see Vincent as the first guard off the bench. We brought him in to guard the quick guards like SGA. This certainly will be interesting.

    If it works you may not need a point guard back if we were to trade DLO. We could always sign an emergency PG if we traded DLO for a non PG. But I don’t know who that would be yet. I don’t think we will know who is really on the trade market for several weeks. Right now it’s mostly speculation from writers. In thing I don’t want to see is Rui in a trade unless it’s for an upgrade at the 4. I do not want Wood as our primary back up at the 4. He has been terrible.

    This experiment may tell us a lot about the direction we go in the trade market.

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    • Good stuff, Michael. I’m also looking forward to seeing how this will work but worried about the DLo, Reaves, and Gabe backcourts. Ham needs to understand this is not Hockey and never play five backups together. LeBron and AD and LeBron and DLo need to staggered so we always have a superstar and point guard on the court.

      We’re doubling down on PIP and FTM overcoming the 3PM deficit. Need to attack the rim and get more free throws and continue to dominate the paint. That’s how we stay alive until we make a trade to fix this roster and add a third star, backup center, and volume 3-point shooting.

    • Oh you’ll KNOW a 3 guard lineup is in the works.

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    Aloha,

    What a difference a couple of weeks can make. A couple of weeks ago the chatters was about the Bulls blowing it up. Then a strange thing happened. LaVine got injured and the Bulls got good. Now before his injury they were a plus 6 when he sat, but I don’t think anyone saw 6 and 3 coming. .

    Not only have they been winning, they have beat the Bucks, 76ers and Heat. And two of the losses were to the Bucks in OT and by just 2 to the Heat. One wonders if this stretch will change anything. They may hold tight to see what happens, or they might try and see what they can get to bolster their roster by moving just LaVine. They may turn into buyers. Bottom line, they are a dangerous team and we can not over look them.

    Beware of the Bulls

    Aloha,

    What a difference a couple of weeks can make. A couple of weeks ago the chatters was about the Bulls blowing it up. Then a strange thing happened. LaVine got injured and the Bulls got good. Now before his injury they were a plus 6 when he sat, but I don’t think anyone saw 6 and 3 coming. .

    Not only have they been winning, they have beat the Bucks, 76ers and Heat. And two of the losses were to the Bucks in OT and by just 2 to the Heat. One wonders if this stretch will change anything. They may hold tight to see what happens, or they might try and see what they can get to bolster their roster by moving just LaVine. They may turn into buyers. Bottom line, they are a dangerous team and we can not over look them.

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    Aloha,

    Missing 3 starters is a killer. It messes your game plan up. The first quarter was an example of that. We were completely disjointed on both sides of the ball and it took some time to settle in.

    We saw why AD is so important to this team on defense. First the Spurs were not afraid of Hayes and Wood. They attacked the paint, getting a lot of little baby jumpers and points at the rim. And on the perimeter, we could not be as aggressive without AD having the teams back.

    It also impacted the offense. Not just for what he scores, not just because we run the offense but also we didn’t get nearly as many open looks, especially from three because they didn’t have to collapse on AD.

    Missing both Cam and DLO also took a toll. Basel had a career high 36 without Cam to check him. And we really missed DLO’s play making. And not having Austin to run the 2nd unit really hurt as well. We might have survived without AD if those two had played.

    LeBron also was missing AD. They bottled him up pretty good. He made them pay with 14 assists but it made it difficult to score.

    At some point it would be nice to be healthy. What a concept. We may see Vincent in the next couple of games which will be great. Hopefully we will have these other guys back for the Knicks.

    That was tough

    Aloha,

    Missing 3 starters is a killer. It messes your game plan up. The first quarter was an example of that. We were completely disjointed on both sides of the ball and it took some time to settle in.

    We saw why AD is so important to this team on defense. First the Spurs were not afraid of Hayes and Wood. They attacked the paint, getting a lot of little baby jumpers and points at the rim. And on the perimeter, we could not be as aggressive without AD having the teams back.

    It also impacted the offense. Not just for what he scores, not just because we run the offense but also we didn’t get nearly as many open looks, especially from three because they didn’t have to collapse on AD.

    Missing both Cam and DLO also took a toll. Basel had a career high 36 without Cam to check him. And we really missed DLO’s play making. And not having Austin to run the 2nd unit really hurt as well. We might have survived without AD if those two had played.

    LeBron also was missing AD. They bottled him up pretty good. He made them pay with 14 assists but it made it difficult to score.

    At some point it would be nice to be healthy. What a concept. We may see Vincent in the next couple of games which will be great. Hopefully we will have these other guys back for the Knicks.

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    • That is an excellent summary of the game, Michael. With the injury woes continuing to mount, I don’t think the Lakers will ever find any chemistry.

      The lineup keeps changing faster than the speed of light. With every little momentum they seem to gather, it all evaporates with new injuries. When I saw the starting lineup, I was startled. I couldn’t tell if it was a Lakers team or a G-league team. I mean, that feels like something out of the blue.

      Also, it seems like it takes a career night from someone for a team to beat the Lakers. Against Dallas a few games ago, it was a career night for Dante Exum to help Dallas beat the Lakers. Last night against the Spurs it was a career night for Devin Vassel to help Spurs best the Lakers.

      I am very frustrated with these injury problems. I don’t even know if we will ever have a healthy team for the rest of the year. This sucks, man.

      • I feel your pain Buba. Every team has injuries through out the year but ours seem to come in bunches. 3, 4, 5 guys at a time.

    • Not sure what it is about the guys we chose to be backup centers but once again it looks like neither Christian Wood or Jaxson Hayes is going to be able to play well enough to be Anthony Davis’ backup at center, much less to play alongside him.

      What’s even more infuriating is we constantly get burned by the opposing team’s second string center. Last night was another example as we had no answer for Zach Collins. I still see our top roster priorities as upgrading Russell and Prince in the starting lineup but getting a quality defensive backup for AD has to be right there next on the list of things we need to win it all.

      What’s frustrating is there are at least fair to great options to replace Russell or Prince but finding a good backup center to backup AD could be difficult. It’s why the Lakers need to start thinking outside the box and looking at trades for players like Smart and Markannen. Lauri has the size and length to backup AD at the five as well as play the three or four.

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