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That’s at a minimum, that kind of injury has to fully heal or you’re looking at something potentially serious and could threaten the season. This will certainly sink the road trip and, depending on how long he’s out, maybe the season.
We already know this team only goes as far as AD can take us. I think there are 2 questions the Lakers need to really confront honestly:
1) Is this season still worth going all in on of AD missed extended time?
2) Is AD really the guy you want to build around?The Shams interview showed us he still is pining to play the 4 even though that weakens the starting line up significantly as it forces LeBron to the 3 where he cannot keep up defensively.
AD has issues being the offensive focal point, issues staying on the floor and had benefitted greatly from operating in the shadow of LeBron.
If you’re not building the team around AD it stands to reason you deal with his background issues and desires and keep him at his best position: center.
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To be fair to AD Jamie, he was healthy the last 3rd of the season 2 years ago, leading us the the conference finals. He only missed 6 games last year and 3 this year with parts of 2 others. So that is a good stretch.
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For me it’s everything above, not just his health. I love AD but I do not see him as a player you build a team around at this point. He’s like Pau Gasol, an excellent second option and a solid all around second best player. Our current issue is our best player is 40 and only plays on offense now, none of this is sustainable.
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Great post Jamie. The defense has come alive. That’s great defensive efforts over the last 3 games. I know the Wizards are but we held them 20 under their season average. I think with Max and his rapid development, adding DFS and Vando coming back, we have a solid defensive core to go along with AD. Actually Gabe’s been good to. He was also great against Curry. It was kind of amazing that looked like his old self on the first day back. I’m sure he will be limited for awhile. 12 to 15 minutes of that kind of play is still valuable. LeBron, Rui, DFS and Vando is a great forward rotation. It’s also nice that Dalton is hitting his 3’s again. He is now 9 for 16 over his last 4 games. I’m not sure what we can get done at the deadline, another center would be nice but I also do not want to give up a lot of salaries for another center either. The good news is is we are playing well and can wait to see if asking prices come down before the deadline.
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This time of year always cracks me up. BS online rumors whip folks into a typing frenzy. “Insiders” claiming this and that star are all disgruntled with this or that front office. So much sound and fury…signifying nothing.
If you’re a big fan of the “Throw Pasta at the Wall and See What Sticks!!!” game then, my friend, this is the time of the NBA year for you! Big fan of unsubstantiated BS? Welcome to the last 2 weeks before the NBA trad deadline! Like to follow fellow bloggers posing as journalists? You, too, can report on potential NBA trades that have to no actual chance of going down.
Some enjoy this time of year, getting as worked up as the other “news” outlets in their “Could the Lakers REALLY trade for the Eastern Conference ALL Star team?!?!?!” level of mania. Me? I find it exhausting and boring. It doesn’t take much to pick apart most of these ludicrous deals floating around.
LBJ and AD are…(gasp)…DISGRUNTLED!!!!! Even if true, what of it? AD is under contract until close to the next decade and we all honestly would just prefer LeBron retire. Neither is Jimmy Butler Nuclear Disgruntled and neither is doing anything on the court to show just how truly disgruntled they are. I’m disgruntled, you’re not human if you’re blithely happy about everything. They’re fine.
“The Lakers could get _______ number of these players for ______ and ____ # of draft picks!” In theory, sure. Anything is technically possible but let’s look at some facts:
-Only one team has a decent amount of cap space to help facilitate capped teams in a trade and that is Detroit. Detroit who has a team very much on the rise and is just as leery of tying their finances up with bad contracts as any other team. With a little over $14 mil in cap space Detroit holds every single card as to how that space will get used up. If it even does. They’re 6th in the east and beating good teams. They have multiple picks in both rounds for the foreseeable future. They don’t need to do anyone any favors or disrupt their team with a bad contract/player. You’ll have to pony up more picks for that privilege.
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/cap/_/year/2024/sort/cap_maximum_space
-https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/team
-The Lakers picks five years out are SUPER valuable. Maybe. Only if we don’t restock with a superstar between now and when they convey. But if there’s one team GMs are wary of trusting to be bad for a long time it is definitely the Lakers. You can believe all the dysfunction smoke you want, if we’re paying top dollar there are few better places to play. Especially if you’re an aging superstar looking for one more big run. The Baby Laker Run post-Kobe was a self-inflicted debacle, mainly because of some of the worst free agent signings of all time. Even Rob has shown better stone as a GM than Jimbo did in getting out of his worst messes quickly and efficiently (see: Westbrook, Russell).
-Look at the player in the trade rumor and do the following exercise: are they even playing, are they on an expiring contract, are they recovering from a serious injury, and have they ever been a part of a winning culture, ever? If the answers are: no, yes, yes, and no a trade is not imminent. Why? Because the lakers are in win now mode, not hope for the best mode. Some people equate a win now philosophy to a “manic trade activity” stance. I do not. Win now means building something that can actually, ya know, win…now. Swap Rui for what amounts to a backup center and sure you’ve gotten bigger but have you gotten better. I mean in reality not in “trades fix everything!” land. The answer is usually murky at best. If the player was/is hurt and has a minutes restriction/can’t play in back-to-backs/only recently came back from serious injury issue they’re more than likely off the table for us.
I could go on, really I could. Suffice to say the only move I see happening is us trading Christian Wood to Detroit for a 2nd rounder and even that better get locked up quick. otherwise Detroit will simply watch Miami circling the drain with Jimmy Buckets and wait for Miami to come-a-calling. Which is smart.
We can’t afford to overpay. We can’t afford to swing and miss. This situation is the result of prior trade mismanagement. Them’s my two-bits on all this hoopla.
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Aloha Jamie, nice post. You beat me to it, I was going to write something similar. There are several other problems. The biggest is these clip bait guys never take the other team and what they are trying to do under consideration. Most of these trade are Laker centric and the worst part is they still don’t help that much. Numerous trade ideas have us sending out 2nd round picks for a good player. The problem with our picks is they are both next years. Ours and the Clippers. Both will most likely fall between 45 and 52. Not exactly overwhelming. Now maybe someone bites because they want to clear cap space. This is problem number 2. Our larger contracts have years left on them and that defeats the purpose of the trade. We have several small expiring contracts but you have send 3 just for 10 mil. And I’m going to scream if I read one more trade that includes Vando. He hasn’t played in a year and has 3 years left on his contract after this one. He has ZERO trade value right now. When you read the articles by several of the teams beat writers, their expectations are very low. Most feel perhaps a small trade or two. Read another of many articles today that again stated that Rui is not being shopped yet he is in nearly every trade.
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The Lakers will not give up the first round picks unless it significantly improves the chance of winning a ring. I have watched OKC play several times. I don’t see a trade that does that. The other thing the reliable beat writers have stated is those 1st round picks are reserved for players that will play for the Lakers for years to come. Not these often injured has beens like Bruce brown, Lonzo and Smart.
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Something. Just traded 1 First Rounder for 3 future First Rounders as Utah seems to be entering an extended rebuild, or at least realizing you can only bring in so many young guys and also improve. Regardless, this feels like the move you make before you make a MOVE. Feels like Jimmy is coming back west, folks.
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I think the Jazz had more pics than they can use and they are betting that the Suns will be bad in 2031. I would like to see the Lakers do something like that. They should talk with OKC to see if they can do something similar. OKC have more pics than they can possibly ever use.
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This is actually good news for the Lakers. I’ve always believed the Lakers 2029 and 2031 first round picks would be among the most valuable picks available, especially considering LeBron would be gone, Davis older, and Lakers ownership and management inept.
Only problem is these picks need to be offered and unprotected, neither of which Rob Pelinka has done yet. All we have ever offered is protected single pick. We need to get serious. We have 3 swaps that could be used instead of picks if we need. Rob must make moves.
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You forgot what I feel was the biggest issue. Our offense was our defense’s biggest problem. It’s hard to win when you have 19 turnovers leading to 28 points. A lot of the turnovers led to fast break opportunities. When we have these kind of games, points off turnovers usually plays a significant role. LeBron had 7 turnovers himself. Pretty unacceptable.
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Sounds like it’s coming and that is welcome news. Firstly, the issues we have are as much from energy and heart as anything else, feel free to nit pick The Vandolorian’s skillset but the energy he plays with is undeniable. Our other issues stem from defense, specifically transition defense. Another energy/hustle stat that Vando can impact positively.
I’m not trying to frame this as him returning and saving the season but he gives us a another rotation-worthy player that we can see how he fits in alongside a newly aggressive and empowered Austin Reaves, how he combines defensively with AD, DFS and Max Christie and another option at the 3/4 to go along with Rui, DFS and LeBron.
Weird to see him return faster than Wood who simply may be toast at this point if he can’t get his knee right. Seems to take a step back every time he ramps up from what was supposed to be a fairly minor injury. It would be nice to see if he could supplant Hayes as the first center off the bench rather than send out assets for a backup big who likely won’t play in the playoffs all that much.
Lakers Injury Update: JJ Redick Calls Jarred Vanderbilt’s Return ‘Imminent’
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Asses handed to us…ridic.
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Great post Jaimie, I’m going to disagree on one point. I think Finney-Smith will come off the bench. He’s not like Vando that can guard point guards. And Rui has a better all around game. Rui’s defense has significantly improved. While his teammates and coaches gush over his efforts there, fans seem to be a little late to the party. I’ll give you an example. The previous two Kings games Derozen was Rui’s primary assignment. In those 2 games, Derozen went 8 for 24 and totalled 22 points. This game with LeBron out Ruo slid down to the 4. And Derozen got 25. Rui’s primary in this game was Murray who scored 5. Rui is defending, rebounding and is 7th in the league in 3 point percentage. I think Finney-Smith will be the first guy off the bench when LeBron rests. He will start when LeBron misses a game. But he will get big minutes regardless.
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Thanks Michael. We’ll see. I could also see Max going to the bench over Rui, especially with Vincent being out and DLO being elsewhere now. Hard for me to see them trading this much and relegating him to the bench. Most coaches give the vet/higher salaried player the starting job to lose and I don’t think JJ is any different since he came up as a player. We’ll just have to wait and see. Regardless we added more of 3 things we need: shooting, length and defense.
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As we come upon Christmas Day and the skate of games played every year we reach what I consider to be the quarter point of the season.
The Lakers are, unfortunately, about what I thought they’d be: middle of the pack. Sure there’s some fluctuations but no matter where we’re ranked in either defense or offense the record is the only thing that really matters. We’re 7th in the west, I have them pegged as finishing 8th.
Sure we’re only 1/2 a game from a true playoff spot, but the point differential informs one that, as currently constructed, this is about the ceiling for this team. Defense is still a major concern. Health, specifically LeBron’s, is a major and ongoing issue. It’s real hard to see us taking down a healthy Phoenix, Denver or Dallas squad. Heck, with home court advantage I can even see Houston running us off the floor in their gym.
That doesn’t mean it’s all doom and gloom, there are quality players on the roster now. They’re just not good enough to push us over the top into true contender. The roster’s decent talent level creates an issue for the front office: to trade them or not?
The case for making a trade this season revolves around one player: LeBron James. After that time is more on the Laker’s side. AD has shown he can be a key piece on a banner winning team. Rui, Reaves, DLO, and perhaps even Max Christie could form the kind of core that hoists a banner…with the right top tier player. That will at some point will not be LeBron James.
Is it worth jettisoning a competent core for a player that fits in alongside someone who really ought not be a part of the team come 2026. This is based on simple math. LeBron will 42 in 2026. You simply cannot in good conscience continue to build around a player who is that old. If AD continues to play at this level you need to find him a cohort that maximizes his talents, not LeBron James.
This will not come as good news to LeBron fans or his camp but it is the truth. It cannot be ignored after this season. You cannot trade competent role players who also play well alongside AD for a “maybe” or “hopefully” player. You either need a playmaking point guard with true three point gravity (Trae Young) or an elite wing (not gonna happen, those are the most valuable commodity in the NBA today and would require a king’s ransom thus decimating the very team you are trying to build).
Could a rugged backup center help? Minimally, at best, in my opinion. A rugged backup center will not fix the transition defense, turnovers or myopic three point shooting. So, unless it’s for a player not listed above…maybe DLO because there’s no guarantee he read-ups here on the cheap, it’s just not worth it.
Certainly not for any draft picks unless it’s for a future altering player. That is not Zach LaVine or Zion, it’s for guys who won’t be traded. Guys like Ant Man, Fox, and the like. We need those picks to try and draft players like that.
So tomorrow enjoy the game, I’ll be pulling for our Lakers to prove me wrong and not just tomorrow but for the rest of the season. I just can’t ignore what is so obvious to my own basketball sensibilities. There’s a reason they play the games though and that opinions don’t define the world: it’s all in the doing.
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Aloha and Happy holidays Jamie. I agree with most everything you posted. I would not give up our firsts for a role player, nor would I give up the contracts it would take to land a star. I do think a center that can rebound and protect the rim would help considering we get killed when AD sits. But it doesn’t have to be a big name. Sharpe with Nets or Richard’s from the Hornets would do the trick. Both are quality rebounders and rim protectors on cheap contracts. And they both out weigh Hayes by 40 pounds which I think is important. If we can ever get healthy I could see this team finishing in the top six. We literally gave away 4 games so it’s not hard for me to see us finishing there. There is plenty of room for internal improvements. Like you I don’t see a championship contender in this group.
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This is what I’m talking about. Sample size still too small to get excited about but it’s definitely trending in a positive direction.
Credit to Max Christie for taking the challenge of ball hawk but I stand by assertion yesterday: if/when he’s healthy that role is best assigned to Vanderbilt. As it stands, Max is the closest thing we have to a 2 way shooting guard right now.
Bonus appreciation round for Cam Reddish. His stellar D often goes unrecognized and while his offense won’t remind anyone of Steph Curry he does need to apply pressure if some kind on that end to stay effective. If he and the staff can carve out a niche role for him on that end we have a nice foundation of defensive and offensive role players.
Of course it all starts with The Brow. Dude has re-focused his energy and effort on that end after the abysmal road trip but it’s coincided with a drop off in his offense. Luckily LeBron and DLO have been able to pick up the slack but we need AD to remain an elite two-way threat.
Lastly I’m glad we scrapped the switch everything scheme as the default defensive strategy. It certainly has its place but gets overly simplistic when exclusively used. The current zone hybrid has proved effective against teams with a point guard that’s quick and thrives in getting into the paint, a weakness for some time. This scheme will also get scouted so it’s on the coaches to go full Borg and continue adapting.
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Aloha Jamie, I am going to have disagree a little on the defense. The improvement hasn’t been just the last couple of games. Over the last 10 only 2 were bad defensive games. Actually the Hawks 127 was in overtime so the effort wasn’t terrible there as well. We were not scoring. As for Max since starting the last four. Max faced a murders row of defensive assignments. Ant Man, Ja and Fox all had subpar games and a lot of that was Max. Heck Ja was 6 for 21. JJ was matching Max’s minutes with Ja. I think he has been very impressive. He is athletic, long and he has that quick twitch reaction time that shut down defenders need. If he continues to play this well it will be huge.
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Michael is correct. Lakers defensive rating for last 10 games was 108.8, which was 7th best in league. The recent play now has the Lakers defense for the season ranked 20th at 114.7.
Ironically, the Lakers’ recent problem has been their offense. Over this same 10 day period where they had the #7 defense, they also had the #29 offense, much of it tied to Knecht’s total disappearance. The Lakers’ once vaunted offense is now ranked 17th at 111.6.
Bottom line, the Lakers need two new starters who can fill major defensive holes but also need to make sure those players can help solve the team’s offensive struggles. The missing key is balance.
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Not trying to disparage Max, just see him as generally limited and having pretty much hit his ceiling. Could be wrong and he’s executing his role well but, if he was available to play, I’d be giving Vando his minutes along. Gabe has improved his play of late, as well, making Max a luxury if we can get some walking wounded back on the court.
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What’s it gonna take to get Rob shit-canned. His team is embarrassing. Call Bob Meyers and get outta the dude’s way…
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Dan Woike, the LA Times beat reporter reported that the Lakers are viewing the injury as not very serious. Hope they are right.