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    5 Things: Free Agency Flop?

    Maybe not so much. Everyone just chill out for a sec. I did a couple podcasts and watched angry comment after angry comment along the lines of “Rob can’t close” and “Jeannie sucks” or “LeBron has ruined the Lakers…waaaaaah” and found it all, well, hilarious. They couldn’t play Salary Cap-A-G-Go because they had no-go. Here are some facts: the Lakers started free agency capped out if all of their player option players opted in. They all opted in, leaving LeBron James as the sole player with an option left to pick up or a deal to renegotiate. There was a rumor, not one started by LeBron I imagine, that he would take a pay cut in order to facilitate a small list of preferred players onto the Lakers. If true, that would have been interesting to see just how magnanimous the King was willing to be. Since most of the players on this infamous mystery list have signed onto other teams let’s take a moment to breathe and let reality work it’s magic.

    1. LeBron isn’t ruining jack. Honestly…just…just stop with this BS. The man plays harder at 39 than half the league that’s almost half his age. He was never going to leave. I doubt he was ever actually considering a pay cut given the cap gymnastics it would require of Rob who, frankly, simply isn’t up to the task or the job. Had such a thing happened it would have surprised me. I’m not too full of myself to admit that now, even if it does end up happening, in order to free up the full MLE LeBron would have to take something like a $20 million dollar pay cut (my apologies for being bad at math and not having a ton of time to work this out. As I understand it-and I could be wrong and welcome factual corrections-in order to use the NTPMLE we’d need to get below the 2nd apron line by the amount that we use, with LeBron’s $50 million cap hold we’re at $178 mil, the 1st apron stops at $170 mil which means we need to get down to $158 mil…I think???). You don’t like him hoping to play with his kid? Seems kinda heartless given how much of his time he’s given basketball and now he dares, DARES, to want to share that time with his eldest son?!?!?! The nerve of the man… Don’t like how the coaches he doesn’t respect get fired? Tell that to Magic fucking Johnson who got a head coach fired before it was en vogue, he’s the OG coach firing guy folks. Don’t like how it feels like we’ve handed the keys of the entire franchise over to one player? Tell that to Kobe Bryant (R.I.P) who basically got Shaq traded after a season he spent the majority of in a Colorado courthouse so he could settle out of court. If you don’t get that this is the Laker Way I honestly don’t know what team you have been watching.
    2. Rob Pelinka sucks at his job. Don’t believe me? Let’s count how many $8 million contracts are being lined up for THT who, if he’s lucky, will sign for a vet minimum but more likely end up playing for more money overseas with Dwight Howard or something. Stop blaming LeBron for a weak-kneed, jelly-brained GM. LeBron is doing what he can, he’s even working the phones trying to get a buddy to come play for cheap. No, no this entire team has the stain of ineptitude left by Rob all over it. From another rookie head coach (back-to-back baby!) to another strained salary cap situation and no discernable plan in sight these are the hallmarks of a Rob Pelinka team my friends. Now, in Rob’s defense, he didn’t have a lot to work with coming into the season. So if the plan was to hope that every single player option didn’t get picked up thus reducing the amount LeBron would need to donate back to the Lakers to zero if that list included Russell…well…that’s an incredibly shitty plan. If the plan, and I really have to assume there was one of some kind, was to hope that DLo, Cam, Wood and Jax all opted out and sought greener pastures so that we could open up the Non Tax Payer MLE (thus losing 4 players for one much cheaper player) the man should be fired. If the plan was to convince Chris Paul, Klay Thompson or DeMar DeRozan to take the vet minimum like he did Trevor Ariza (no other team wanted him) and Carmelo Anthony (no other team wanted him) and I forget what other NBA AARP member was on that ill-fated squad, he’s just not paying attention.
    3. Where’s AD? Just like the 4th quarter of a big game…AD is nowhere to be seen. I’m sure he’ll bounce back tomorrow. Argentina? Cape Town? Who knows. He’s locked in anyhow, he can’t renegotiate his deal, so not too sure what he’d do to help other than remind LeBron to eat his power shake made from the souls of NBA legends long since passed. “AD, the Jerry West shake is DELICIOUS!” (too soon?). I kid though, AD is the cornerstone and is doing his job as quietly as this modern world allows. I hope.
    4. It’s not that bad y’all. Seriously, it isn’t. At this point let’s assume that LeBron is going to end up taking the max for 1,2 or 3 years, hopefully with team and/or player options of some kind that make it so we’re not screwed if he gets seriously hurt. We have AD, for all his strengths and flaws, DLo who can be a difference-maker in the regular season and a couple good games in the playoffs (maybe), solid players on cheapish contracts and we’re getting younger. That’s the main thing I think is being influenced by Reddick in all honesty. There may be a conflict of interests in that I can’t imagine J.J. Reddick wants to spend his first few season butting heads with vets who are about his age and have done more in the league than he ever did. I think he would much rather coach a team with a vet he knows well (LeBron) a vet he’s hopefully apologized to for ranking him so poorly defensively (AD) some solid role-players still looking to make a serious mark (the rest of the starters and most of the bench) and young guys (Knecht and I dunno…JHS I guess, maybe Lewis and Castleton). Remember, we ended last season just 5 games out from being the 4th seed. That was with injuries to Vando and Vincent that sidelined them most of the regular season. If AD and LBJ can largely replicate their health from last season and some of the role guys improve or just play, that could be a big enough swing to take us out of the playin and into the playoff realm. One could also argue the west got a little weaker this summer with talent dispersing itself more equitably (by design and courtesy of the new CBA).
    5. So, in your opinion Jamie just why has this been such a quiet free agency for the Lakers? Glad you asked, here’s what I think: we had no cap space, not even the TPMLE to start free agency because we had to wait on players to opt in, not surprisingly they waited until basically the last second because they hoped something better would open up, when their agents told them that wasn’t likely they opted in thus removing all potential cap space from the equation. Simple logic. Concerning our draft picks 5 years out and the pick swaps and all that…they’re not as valuable as they used to be (or some people think they are) because nobody knows how bad the Lakers will be. If the Lakers are good, the picks will probably be mediocre, at best. The lottery system also dissuades teams from giving up the ghost for a potential rookie 5 years from now when GM X may or may not even have a job. The new CBA penalties are draconic and we’re seeing that play out in free agency. Max contracts for under-performing players are toxic. Injured players with gas left in the tank (their opinion, of course) are signing for pennies. My takeaway is that having 10-15 million in actual cap space every summer is going to be the new modus operandi for a lot of teams now. We’ll see more teams taking a hit by letting a guy walk to free up space so they can use all the spending tools a lot of teams absolutely rely on to fill out the margins. Otherwise you’ll be like the Knicks: watching a quality player walk for nothing to another team with money to pay him. Bird Rights in trades will be ESSENTIAL going forward because we saw Hartenstein walk and the Knicks had his Early Bird Rights…wasn’t enough. That second apron will be the death of super teams and the three super star model, by design, but it may also herald the end of the two superstar teams depending on which superstars are available at any given moment. We got 2 guys taking up over 50% (approaching 60%) of our 1st apron tax space.

      One last point, on the pride of an elite athlete. It has been tossed about that a player of Chris Paul’s caliber and possibly even Klay Thompson or DeMar DeRozan could be had for the vet minimum. I’m not talking specifically here, just in general I see a lot of that stuff. I don’t think we factor in things like “personal pride” or “hard work” enough. Ask yourself a simple question: if someone who had never done your job before, who was also the owner manager of your work place, came up to you and said something along the lines of “I know you make $25/hour now…but about taking $15/hour so we can hire someone else? Oh, also and by the way, I’M not taking any kind of pay cut at all. So…whaddaya think!?” you would be pissed. You would be angry. You would do what Klay Thompson just did and find another job, maybe even for the amount the other guy asked you for because eff you pal. These are people who are elite, all of them, even JHS. They are the top 1% of the basketball world and it’s by a really large margin. It’s everyone’s choice how to view that and factor it into trades or contract offers but in this one area I actually think the Lakers lead the league and that is respecting the work. Getting off the soap box now, next man up.

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    • Also, think about this: next summer we’ll see AD’s extension kick in and if LBJ takes the max those 2 will cost $113 million in cap space, alone. Now toss in Reaves, Vincent, Vando and Hachimura (or at least the salaries they represent as they could be traded for someone(s) else making about the same and you’re already at roughly $164-165 mil in cap space. That would mean just letting JHS and Lewis walk and we haven’t factored in Knecht or Bronny so that figure is higher (we won’t have to worry about a FRP next summer, we don’t have one yet). We’ll basically be capped out next summer, too.

      So get used to this. Or don’t. it’s entirely up to you lol.

      CAP SPACE-A-GO-GO the new game sweeping the nation and leaving hoops fans disappointed and disillusioned with their team’s inability to print money and sign everyone! New from Parker Bros.

    • Excellent 5’er Jamie. Completely agree.

    • Wow, Jamie! Your analysis is what I will call the brutal truth. Truth hurts a lot, and that’s why I am hurting right now. But it has to be said. What we Lakers fans are facing now is real, and there seems to be no light at the end of the tunnel. The Lakers’ financial situation is like a triple-double gone wrong.

      Through a combination of inept management and incompetence, the Lakers found themselves juggling a hefty payroll with LeBron James and Anthony Davis alone gobbling up more than half of the team’s salary cap.

      Yes, LeBron’s willing to sacrifice to increase the team’s chances to bring in a quality player, and LeBron’s willing to take a pay cut. But that’s like asking a superstar to play with a blindfold – noble, but not enough. His $51 million cap hit still looms large, but the man had worked hard throughout his career, and deserves every penny that comes his way. Even if the Lakers have a mid-level exception (say around $12 million), it’s like finding pocket change in a couch – not enough for a star player.
      One can only hope players like Gary Trent Jr. or Derozan might join, but it’s like hoping for rain during a drought. The Lakers need more firepower, and that’s why being financially handicapped makes me feel sad as a fan.
      I am sure many of us agree the 2023/24 season has been a rollercoaster – injuries, disgruntled players (though not overt), and missed trade opportunities. Most of these problems point to gross mismanagement, if not lack of vision. It is like watching your favorite player airball a clutch shot.
      In short, the Lakers have been playing chess with checkers money. The question that keeps burning inside of me is: How can the Lakers improve their situation? Well it seems there will be no answer to this question anytime soon.
      Let’s hope they make a big splash soon!

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    With the news that Christian Wood and Jaxon Hayes are opting in on very cheap/cap friendly deals I think we need to look almost exclusively at wings and big, mobile guards under 87 years old. That takes Klay and CP3 out of the mix. With the Lakers extending Castleton the 2 way QO it shows they intend to keep him unless another team actually offers him a contract (and maybe even they choose to match it). At the very least it looks like they did the young man a solid by guaranteeing him a raise if someone else wants him.

    AD, Jax and Wood, LeBron and Vando are enough big bodies. Between the 4 there’s enough good, shooting and skill to compete in the regular season. If we have the ponies for LM from Utah or KO from Toronto I’d be cool with that, I’d also be cool trading one if Wood or Jax along with Rui to Chicago for Vucevic.

    But then we have to use the MLE, should it be available, on a wing. Kinda doubt Tobias Harris will come for the full MLE but we could slot DeMar DeRozan at the 3 (doubt he’d be happy coming off the bench, at least to start the season but who knows…insert wish for a coach who has done this before and understands how to talk to vets properly…) but that still trends toward old and under-sized. Grant looks too pricey given his impact in winning but there’s an argument that it’s his situation and not specifically him. Still, not sure we have the ponies for that race.

    So here’s a list, in no particular order, of wings under 35 who can contribute on both ends that could be had for the MLE (IMO):
    -Precious Achiuwa
    -Tobias Harris (this one is a stretch in logic honestly)
    -Kelly Oubre (personal top choice)
    -Saddiq Bay
    -Naji Marshall (could challenge for a starting spot honestly)

    Staying away from the Covington’s and Hayward’s as my hope is we get younger and not older and that we focus as much in defense as much as shooting.

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    With the news that Christian Wood and Jaxon Hayes are opting in on very cheap/cap friendly deals I think we need to look almost exclusively at wings and big, mobile guards under 87 years old. That takes Klay and CP3 out of the mix. With the Lakers extending Castleton the 2 way QO it shows they intend to keep him unless another team actually offers him a contract (and maybe even they choose to match it). At the very least it looks like they did the young man a solid by guaranteeing him a raise if someone else wants him.

    AD, Jax and Wood, LeBron and Vando are enough big bodies. Between the 4 there’s enough good, shooting and skill to compete in the regular season. If we have the ponies for LM from Utah or KO from Toronto I’d be cool with that, I’d also be cool trading one if Wood or Jax along with Rui to Chicago for Vucevic.

    But then we have to use the MLE, should it be available, on a wing. Kinda doubt Tobias Harris will come for the full MLE but we could slot DeMar DeRozan at the 3 (doubt he’d be happy coming off the bench, at least to start the season but who knows…insert wish for a coach who has done this before and understands how to talk to vets properly…) but that still trends toward old and under-sized. Grant looks too pricey given his impact in winning but there’s an argument that it’s his situation and not specifically him. Still, not sure we have the ponies for that race.

    So here’s a list, in no particular order, of wings under 35 who can contribute on both ends that could be had for the MLE (IMO):
    -Precious Achiuwa
    -Tobias Harris (this one is a stretch in logic honestly)
    -Kelly Oubre (personal top choice)
    -Saddiq Bay
    -Naji Marshall (could challenge for a starting spot honestly)

    Staying away from the Covington’s and Hayward’s as my hope is we get younger and not older and that we focus as much in defense as much as shooting.

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    • Now if LeBron has a list of players he’ll reduce salary for that changes a lot.

      • It’s funny to me that all the click bait guys seem to think the Lakers need offense and it’s all about shooters. The Lakers were 6th in scoring and I believe 7th in 3 point shooting percentage. Now we didn’t take enough 3’d but I think JJ will fix that. We need to improve our defense. I like Marshall as well. But I don’t think he’s a name that LeBron will take a pay cut for. If Vando and Vincent are healthy that will help. Since he barely played, fans tend to forget that Vincent is a highly regarded on ball defender. We didn’t sign him for his offense although he was a capable offensive player during the Heats playoff run last year. Biggest problem for the Lakers is it’s a weak free agent class and solid 2 way players are expensive.

        • Spot on. It’s always perplexing to me as well when folks say “All we need is a coupla 3&D guys” as if there’s a buncha these guys just sitting around the parking lot at Home Depot waiting to be picked up. Quality guys like this are rare and 2 of the better ones (Murray & Bridges) are already off the board.

    • I wouldn’t mind seeing KCP coming back either. Lebron might take that big pay cut for a fellow Klutch brother.

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    With nothing but the contracts of Hachimura (semi-valuable), Gabe Vincent (barely played), Jarred Vanderbilt (barely played but with still decent upside) and the Tax-Payer MLE were basically running it back. Could we see some trades in a week? Maybe, but Rob is either too slow to pull the trigger or teams aren’t interested in our talent and/or picks still 5 years out. Compounding the issue is we still can’t offer salary relief the season after next for anyone except Russell, whom we have all acknowledged would be difficult to replace.

    Soooo…we’re running it back.

    With nothing but the contracts of Hachimura (semi-valuable), Gabe Vincent (barely played), Jarred Vanderbilt (barely played but with still decent upside) and the Tax-Payer MLE were basically running it back. Could we see some trades in a week? Maybe, but Rob is either too slow to pull the trigger or teams aren’t interested in our talent and/or picks still 5 years out. Compounding the issue is we still can’t offer salary relief the season after next for anyone except Russell, whom we have all acknowledged would be difficult to replace.

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    • Not even sure if we have the MLE either…

      • Rumor found the water mill is LBJ considering opting out and taking less. How much less being the question. Likely not enough for the full MLE.

        • Waiting on Cam. If he opts in, that’s 15 players and another headache for Rob. We are so close to the 2nd apron even stretching Lewis hurts. He didn’t look good in G league so we might not even be able to pay a team to take him. Hood-Shapino might have some value but an injury riddled rookie season ending in back surgery isn’t helpful.

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    For all the folks whining about nepotism in the instance of Bronny James, while turning a blind eye to Giannis and his family team in Milwaukee, all the kids of great players who have jobs on their old teams, and so on: grow up.

    It’s the 55th pick, it was always going to be a G-League level prospect. Heck, players who averaged fewer points than Bronny went in the 1st round to other teams. He comes into the league with his head on right, decent defensive skills, and the willingness to embrace the process of improvement rather than the shortcut of entitlement. What more is anyone truly expecting from a late second-rounder?

    I think that Bronny will be given the same opportunity to shine as JHS, who did go in the 1st round and looks like a two-way player, at best. He’ll be in camp, maybe play some minor minutes with Pop in preseason, and play a lot in the G-League.

    If having Bronny around infuses new excitement into The King for the regular season the pick is worth it. If Bronny is better than expected it’s doubly worth it. If Bronny doesn’t work out, oh no….gee whiz…it’s no worse than Maxwell Lewis ended up. Ergo, nothing lost. In short I only see positives from this.

    Getting bent outta shape because you see this is as nepotism means you’re just very, very late to the party. It’s been alive and well in America for centuries . Get used to it and find something that matters to get pissed about.

    Concerning Bronny James

    For all the folks whining about nepotism in the instance of Bronny James, while turning a blind eye to Giannis and his family team in Milwaukee, all the kids of great players who have jobs on their old teams, and so on: grow up.

    It’s the 55th pick, it was always going to be a G-League level prospect. Heck, players who averaged fewer points than Bronny went in the 1st round to other teams. He comes into the league with his head on right, decent defensive skills, and the willingness to embrace the process of improvement rather than the shortcut of entitlement. What more is anyone truly expecting from a late second-rounder?

    I think that Bronny will be given the same opportunity to shine as JHS, who did go in the 1st round and looks like a two-way player, at best. He’ll be in camp, maybe play some minor minutes with Pop in preseason, and play a lot in the G-League.

    If having Bronny around infuses new excitement into The King for the regular season the pick is worth it. If Bronny is better than expected it’s doubly worth it. If Bronny doesn’t work out, oh no….gee whiz…it’s no worse than Maxwell Lewis ended up. Ergo, nothing lost. In short I only see positives from this.

    Getting bent outta shape because you see this is as nepotism means you’re just very, very late to the party. It’s been alive and well in America for centuries . Get used to it and find something that matters to get pissed about.

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    • Sheeeiiiiitttt!!!!….(Clay Davis voice)…..my dad got me my 1st job and I’m STILL in the same industry 40yrs later. So needless to say; I ain’t mad at LBJ! But lets keep it 100. What’s really got a bug up the azz of a certain segment of the population is that they can’t deal with a player (aka “the help”) wielding the type of power LeBron has over a franchise. Ain’t no fun when the rabbit has the gun….lol.

      • I agree with everything you said Jamie. My only concern was that we now have 3 roster spots filled by guys that are likely spend most of the time in the G league. If Cam and Hayes both opt in that can create a problem.

        • I’m not even all that worried about that. Even if everyone opts in and we make no trades that’s only 12 players plus DK and Bronny. Roster size is 15 plus 3 two-ways.

          If everyone opts in we won’t have anything but the MLE available, anyhow, so I think it’s fine. If some game-altering vet minimum player did want to come here just cutting Lewis isn’t a big hit. We don’t get the cap space but we do free up the roster spot. Honestly, same for JHS IMO.

          If we do end up making a trade it’s either going to be one-to-one (or close to it) or multiple contracts on our end going out for a single player coming back.

      • Exactly, it’s basically how America works at this point. If that’s the major sticking point for any fans they need to move on.

    • As for Bronny’s “impact” on the team? There should be none this season. Sure, he’ll eventually get on the court with Pops in a forced PR move that’ll have him throwing a lob to his dad that’ll be replayed on ESPN a million times. But in reality he should be with the South Bay Lakers the entire season getting court-time and learning where he fits in the NBA. Sitting at the end of the bench, bonding with Shapino & Lewis while getting zero run won’t be productive. Hopefully Lebron realizes this…

      • I might go as high 1-2% impact on the regular season (and we did see Captain Long Arms aka THT do well in the playoffs as a rook) but nobody should be counting on it.

        I think everyone understands the process he’s embarking on, it’s just fans who get all ruffled and huffy about this stuff. Like you said about the rabbit, nobody wants to see the sheep in charge of the clippers.

      • The lob for the highlight segment’s gotta happen in game 1. Can’t count on 40 year old Lebron staying healthy long enough for that hallmark moment to happen later in the season.

        • Honestly, LeBron can wait to suit up until 2025 if it means he’ll impact the playoffs more (it won’t and he won’t so it doesn’t matter)

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    Looks like we (maybe) learned another NBA GMing 101 lesson! Rob simply made the best choice available, didn’t get it muddled with illusions of drafting the next Wes Unseld at 17. They picked the best player available. Easy, right?

    Based on last summer’s draft, evidently not. With questions as to what Jalen Hood-Schifino is even good at and Max Lewis struggle to shoot at a rec league level there were no guarantees we wouldn’t all be left scratching our heads when the dust settled.

    Rob didn’t draft Bronny in the first round, something that didn’t seem plausible but was certainly possible. It would have been borderline criminal if he had. He just didn’t impact winning in a meaningful way. It could be argued not being drafted at all and playing overseas somewhere would benefit him more than trying to carve out a role in the NBA while still learning the game.

    He didn’t pick a center that would just as likely (if not more likely) be a project that doesn’t align with LeBron’s timeline in any meaningful way. Just didn’t make sense to me with the number of available, serviceable centers on the free agency market, Hayes possibly picking up his option, Wood having already picked up his option, but mainly because we have AD at the 5. Plus we have a project center on a two-way deal in Castleton and some of our best line ups will probably have LeBron at the 5 in small ball situations as the “stretch 5”.

    He picked Dalton Knecht, who on some boards I saw was as high as a top 5 pick but generally fell into the 7-12 range. To have him fall into our laps…like Whitmore and Jaquez did last season…seemed almost too good to be true. The only left was Rob not blowing it. Thankfully he did not.

    It’s bittersweet for me because the bar for Rob doing his job is set to toddler low. We get excited when he does the obvious thing right. That’s unfortunate because there are better minds out there available right now. Maybe they don’t want to come work at The Lakers Family Circus, and honestly that gets more and more understandable as the years go by, but it would be nice to see someone who does the job well at the helm.

    Basically I’m tired of watching guys learn on the job around here. When your relationships matter so much more than your experience, that’s problematic. When the head of the organization values loyalty more than savvy or honesty, that’s a biiig problem (see America, United States of). So, while I’m happy we picked the most NBA-ready talent out there who looks like he can contribute right away, I’m also annoyed that it doesn’t seem to be the norm. That we need to constantly learn these simple lessons the hard way.

    Surprisingly Solid 1st Round

    Looks like we (maybe) learned another NBA GMing 101 lesson! Rob simply made the best choice available, didn’t get it muddled with illusions of drafting the next Wes Unseld at 17. They picked the best player available. Easy, right?

    Based on last summer’s draft, evidently not. With questions as to what Jalen Hood-Schifino is even good at and Max Lewis struggle to shoot at a rec league level there were no guarantees we wouldn’t all be left scratching our heads when the dust settled.

    Rob didn’t draft Bronny in the first round, something that didn’t seem plausible but was certainly possible. It would have been borderline criminal if he had. He just didn’t impact winning in a meaningful way. It could be argued not being drafted at all and playing overseas somewhere would benefit him more than trying to carve out a role in the NBA while still learning the game.

    He didn’t pick a center that would just as likely (if not more likely) be a project that doesn’t align with LeBron’s timeline in any meaningful way. Just didn’t make sense to me with the number of available, serviceable centers on the free agency market, Hayes possibly picking up his option, Wood having already picked up his option, but mainly because we have AD at the 5. Plus we have a project center on a two-way deal in Castleton and some of our best line ups will probably have LeBron at the 5 in small ball situations as the “stretch 5”.

    He picked Dalton Knecht, who on some boards I saw was as high as a top 5 pick but generally fell into the 7-12 range. To have him fall into our laps…like Whitmore and Jaquez did last season…seemed almost too good to be true. The only left was Rob not blowing it. Thankfully he did not.

    It’s bittersweet for me because the bar for Rob doing his job is set to toddler low. We get excited when he does the obvious thing right. That’s unfortunate because there are better minds out there available right now. Maybe they don’t want to come work at The Lakers Family Circus, and honestly that gets more and more understandable as the years go by, but it would be nice to see someone who does the job well at the helm.

    Basically I’m tired of watching guys learn on the job around here. When your relationships matter so much more than your experience, that’s problematic. When the head of the organization values loyalty more than savvy or honesty, that’s a biiig problem (see America, United States of). So, while I’m happy we picked the most NBA-ready talent out there who looks like he can contribute right away, I’m also annoyed that it doesn’t seem to be the norm. That we need to constantly learn these simple lessons the hard way.

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    • I’m watching the 2nd round right now and can’t even keep track because trades are coming in rapid fire. Whole buncha centers coming off the board. None of this has involved us..so far. Rob will come out & say I can’t buy a house if ain’t for sale. But houses are selling like a MFer right now. And now Philly just got Bona. Rob ain’t that dude and JayJay The Basketball Messiah ain’t gonna change that. Damn Shame.

    • Jamie…I’m thinking about what Jalen Hood Schifino is good at. I’ll bet he has a very good patience level and will lay the blame for the lack of his development and actual game play on the previous coach (I forgot his name already, I only recall something about a guy being far overpaid and constantly checking his NADS as his hands were excessively in his pockets. I am not saying JHS is “all that”…I’m just hoping that he was partly victim of “wrong place/wrong time” and he was drafted with known back issue history….He’s only 21 years old now, he has size…like the previous year’s draftee that seems to be developing (Max Christie). I understand that Phil Handy has been highly respected and praised as “player development coach”…but I feel something went wrong when the last coach (Ham) was around. I just did a quick search and I could not find out when JHS’ back was injured, maybe his back had been bothering him for a while, (injury report in early December 2023 showed he was missing games due to back spasms….In December 2022, he was missing college games due to back issues….He’s young, he interviews with a positive attitude….his first year was a wash. Look at Michael Porter’s recovery. Yes, Porter plays more straight up, and he doesn’t dive on the floor like Rodman always did, but Porter does have value. I’m just hoping that last season will be forgotten players will all be evaluated for their abilities to adapt to the new coaching staff. I will add my consistent suggestion….Lakers should lose Jared Vanderbilt. He is overpaid, and apparently injury prone…IMHO, his offense is negative, his defense is overrated….

    • On a side note…NBA and ESPN gotta do a better job on this 2nd day presentation of the 2nd Round. It looks low budget and that green room is downright depressing. NFL would never. Do better guys.

      • I didn’t bother to watch, but NBA and ESPN should dress it up and present better for overall enthusiasm for the league. It means an awful lot to every player drafted (and of course someone will focus on a player or two who is disappointed in when drafted or not being drafted at all)….If the league hasn’t been able to repair the obvious degradation of the All Star Game and events….how long do you think it’ll be before 2nd round draft day is made notable (and I am not saying “sensationalized”)….. https://youtu.be/s__rX_WL100?si=-MA9xm4qPF-2rSb5

    • I think Redick will keep the team more focused and together as a unit…a TEAM. Of course, filling out the coaching staff with strong no BS upfront assistants…coaches with previous head coach experience in the NBA (I’d like to see 1-2 former head coaches on staff)…..coaches that will be firm, but will hear and process appropriately everything that players bring up to them. Assistant coach picks Rondo for one…I am not sold on Jared Dudley.

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    5 Things: Coach Reddick

    Well that’s over. Perhaps the worst kept secret in the NBA is now pretty much official news, save for an official Lakers press release. J.J. Reddick will be the next scapegoat, er head coach…heh, of the Los Angeles Lakers. Coach JJ will have a steep learning curve, a dysfunctional (and often cheap) front office, and the eldest statesman in the game to navigate so here’s hoping he’s up for the challenge. Let’s look at some of the challenges and what Reddick brings to the table.

    1. What does Reddick bring? Frankly…not much. We know he coached some 9 year old’s at one point, that he turned down other head coaching jobs in years prior, that he has a podcast with LeBron and was a role player in the NBA. That’s about it. Anything else you hear is projected supposition, at best. One positive that could be gleaned is that he also shows up without much baggage. There are no game 7 collapses to atone for, no time outs left in the pocket to explain, not really much at all. Good or bad. So if you’re of the opinion that a clean slate and an empty bucket are what the Lakers need from a head coach you got your man. There are zero interviews that I can find where he explicitly endorses any style of basketball, he seems to advocate a strong point of attack defense but that really doesn’t bring much to the table.
    2. Why am I not over the moon about this? I think that, because of the Lakers having a ton of expectations because of being both the Lakers and the team, on which LeBron will end his career, JJ has too steep of a mountain to climb. With the thinnest of resumes, a solid career as a role-player with some decent playoff experience and that’s it, there’s a lot of on-the-job learning coming his way. I don’t care that he and LeBron have a podcast because when there’s a 4-5 game losing streak you’re mired in none of that will matter. Hearing other unproven people, like Rajon Rondo, being considered for his staff doesn’t really fill me with confidence, either. You need someone who has done this before on that bench or I guarantee coaching will be the #1 issue we lose games next season.
    3. Don’t you think the Lakers did their due diligence? In short, no. I think that they had a #1, 2, & 3 options and they got rebuffed, again. Rob can’t close deals, this is fact now. So they took the sure “yes”. That is what I think. I think they, once again, imposed an artificial timeline of having a coach by the draft (like JJ will say “No! I’ve scouted and canvassed the ENTIRE field of draftees, take this guy!” lol). I think they, once again, couldn’t close the deal with their candidate of choice and had to look to a field of uninspiring…but knowledgeable…ex-coaches or highly regarded assistants. The Lakers had a list at the beginning of the offseason, two of the coaches (Ty Lue and Jason Kidd) on the list were/are still coaching their teams. Dan Hurley was #3. If you think due diligence and intense scrutiny led to this match I don’t know what to tell you.
    4. Are the Lakers set up in such a way for JJ to succeed right away? Now THAT my friends is the only question worth asking right now. Whether or not you agree with the hire it is now a moot point. What does JJ have to work with? A team that had a healthy LeBron and AD for the majority of the season, Reaves played in all 82 games and contributions from unexpected sources throughout the season and managed to get to the 8th seed and then lose in the 1st round. Not having Wood, Cam, Gabe and especially Vando definitely affected the defensive side of the equation. Wood was in and out and when he was in he was up and down. Cam was the same. Gabe looked OK at times in the playoffs when he finally got healthy but it came at the expense of a role Max Christie did well enough with and Max is a better scorer. DLo is a huge question mark, will he or won’t het stay and at what cost? The roster under=performed last season and Rob didn’t address any of it in-season. We’ll see how this one shakes out over the summer.
    5. So what do you think will happen, Mr. Smart Guy? Me, I dunno. I think Reddick is good for prep. Everything I’ve heard and read and based on his observations on Mind the Game lead me to believe he is thorough when it comes to studying the game. Observing X’s and O’s and creating them are two different things. Talking about what a guy should do and getting a locker room full of alpha personalities to actually do that are two very different things. Observing and coaching are two totally different realities. If JJ had been more of a locker room leader during his playing career I’d maybe have a little more optimism but everything I’ve seen or read on that indicates he was not. Which is fine when you’re a journeyman three point specialist. Will anything he’s learned on his professional and personal journey translate to success in coaching an NBA team? I truly have no clue.

    I’m reminded of Jim Buss and his now infamously legendary quote: “Evaluating basketball talent is not too difficult. If you grabbed 10 fans out of a bar and asked them to rate prospects, their opinions would be pretty much identical to those of the pro scouts.” Sure, he kind of tried to walk it back years later but that quote revealed a truth about both his work ethic and his respect for the work that goes into the game of basketball. Work we do not watch on TV. Work we don’t put ourselves through. Scrutiny we don’t understand. Everything that goes into making 10 or so athletes look good, play well and accomplish the goal of winning it all. JJ is a gamble, a high risk one at that, not sure what the high reward people talk about seeing because the reward is the same for anyone who takes the job. He can’t succeed any better than Frank Vogel did, who won us a title in his first season under unprecedented and never toi be replicated conditions and was fired 183 days later. He can only hope to reach that something akin to that height or be considered a failure to some degree. The only silver lining there is that this has got to be Rob Pelinka’s last coach he hires.

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    Put the Hurley deal on the table. It’s criminal not to.

    Call Monty

    Put the Hurley deal on the table. It’s criminal not to.

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    • That would be the dumbest possible move the Lakers could make. Monty is obviously not in any kind of mental state to coach an NBA team. Lakers will not be placing any calls to Monty.

      • Common thread already being ignored in favor of who knows what: both owners took over their teams very recently, come from a business background where pushback isn’t the norm and Monty has a strong willed approach.

        It would be criminal to not reach out. I didn’t say “give him the job NOW!” Or “Monty should be the next coach” or some other hyperbolic, out of pocket statement. They should just do their due diligence and reach out.

        It makes sense from so very many angles: no deal in place with JJ yet, Monty is the only available coach (besides Vogel) who has gotten a team to the NBA Finals, he’s a great X’s and O’s guy. He doesn’t take BS from ownership .

        If he needs a break he’ll say so…on the call…the Lakers should definitely make.

        • The Lakers have screwed around enough. Last thing they need to do right now is start dithering because Jeanie or Linda has a jag up their ass about JJ about something or let’s keep an open mind when they just effing need to decide. Too many cooks. Nobody with a vision. We all know the problem. JJ is their best possible solution.

      • Begging? Hardly, just want an ownership with a long track record of bad decisions made from the gut to do the basics of their job and call him.

        JJ Reddick is a name with zero résumé, Monty has been to the NBA Finals and lost with a young team. If Dallas fires Kidd for the same reasons everyone’s reaction would be “What?!”

      • Monty wasn’t fired because of the losing. He was fired because he wasn’t developing that young group. He made decisions that had a lot of people around the league scratching their head. One of the stated goals of the Lakers was to have a coach that can help develop young talent. I would be surprised if the Lakers call him.

    • Reading that he didn’t even plan on coaching LAST season as his wife was battling breast cancer (after tragically losing his 1st wife to a car accident a few years ago). But they threw so much money at him I guess he couldn’t refuse. I can’t see him immediately coming here…especially with 5yrs & 65mill still owed to him. Maybe after Lebron is gone and JayJay flames out he’d be a good choice for the rebuild.

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    5 Things: Lakers Got Played. Again.

    This feels familiar. Oh yeah, because this happened oh so very recently. Like deja vu of the worst kind, if you’re a Lakers fan. With the news that UCONN head coach Dan Hurley has spurned the Lakers 6 year, $80 mil offer to stay in the NCAA the Lakers are, once again, forced to pivot from their very public first choice. Coach Hurley now joins the illustrious (and infamous) list of Tyronn Lue, Monty Williams, I honestly don’t recall the other 2 candidates in front of Vogel before we settled on Frank, and Juwan Howard as using the Lakers for leverage or looking at the behind the scenes chaos and feeblemindedness and thinking the job was better off in somebody else’s hands. There is no way to spin this well, this is a bad look for LA.

    1. Rob Can’t Close. This is the 3rd coaching search in a row where the #1 candidate has said no and the second when the coach chose to stay at the NCAA level. Numerous reports prior to the Ham announcement reveal that Darvin Ham was not the actual first choice but rather Juwan Howard. Rob seems to have a problem closing the deal and this magnified for no reason whatsoever by the leaks of information coming from within the Lakers organization when they decide on a choice before getting them to sign on the dotted line. This, above all behaviors, serves absolutely no purpose. It just makes everyone in the front office and ownership look like foolish, amateur morons.
    2. There is no plan, just constant, childish reactions followed by the carbon copy press conference for the poor sap who ends up with the job. Just for funsies I went back and watched some highlights from the Vogel and Ham introductory news conferences. Incredibly there is only a small amount of variance. Words like “first choice” and “we believe strongly” are used in a manner akin to a 12 year old writing a book report from passages in the encyclopedia without really being able to understand the task at hand. This is getting ridiculous now. If Jeannie could step away and see this from afar she would see that firing Rob is the only smart move at this juncture, the man is highly incompetent.
    3. What does this mean for LeBron? Honestly, who cares. At this point he’s staying or retiring and that’s not for any reason other than we need him as much as he needs us. No other contender has the $$$ to pay him what he feels is deserved (which, in my opinion, is valid) and the Lakers need him to stay relevant. No offense to AD but he’s just not “that guy” the fans want to love, the media wants to talk to and he’s not breaking/setting long-held records every other game.
    4. What does this mean for AD? To me this is the most pertinent question of all. Feels like we just lost the guy who understood development and spacing at an instinctual level. With LeBron trending out of his career at some point the onus of leading the Lakers will fall onto AD’s shoulders, if for no other reason that he’d be the highest paid player at that point. He certainly has never felt qualified to be “the man” on any NBA team. AD is a rock solid post player who can get hot from the outside but is best utilized in the paint. He’s at his best when he’s rebounding on the offensive end or finishing plays after the defense has been collapsed. While we’re likely to never know how Coach Hurley envisioned using him it stands to reason that the next man up in our coaching search will hopefully make that question their priority.
    5. Who’s the next best candidate? For my money I am now hoping we choose Borrego who has interviewed twice and, I believe, was the front runner despite all the J.J. Reddick smoke. We’ll see, he’s also rumored to be in the running for the Cavs job and they’re just as ready to compete for a title as we are, maybe more so if they can lock in Spyda for 3-4 seasons. If/when that falls through either due to the Lakers incompetence or…well, there really isn’t another reason at this point. The Lakers just don’t seem to get it. They function as if it’s 1989 and Kurt’s playing beach volleyball with Linda and Jeannie like a Tab advert. Wake. Up.

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    • Some of my favorite Rob quotes on his recent and multiple coaching hires, let’s see how many he regurgitates at his next presser when we announce Coach X!!!

      General Manager Rob Pelinka on Darvin Ham:“When someone begins his NBA coaching career at the G League level and goes all the way through playing an integral role on the front bench of an NBA Championship team, it really speaks to a certain strength of character. Our players and fans will immediately identify with Darvin’s no-nonsense and hard-working approach, which we feel will bring toughness and a competitive edge to all we do,” said Pelinka. “When you add that to Darvin’s sophisticated grasp of in-game strategy and deep knowledge of the game of basketball, we have the ideal coach for this next chapter in Lakers history. We could not be more honored and proud to name Darvin Ham as our new head coach.”

      Also: “This is an incredibly bright and promising day in Lakers history,”

      Lastly: Rob Pelinka described Darvin Ham as “the ideal fit” for what the Lakers are looking for in a coach. Noted how Ham “earned his stripes” by starting out as a coach and GM at the G League level.

      On Frank Vogel and all the “negative perceptions” out there: “I think that all we can do is do the work. And that’s what we’re going to stay committed to, is just doing excellent work. And I think if people take a look at where this franchise is, right now, we have a great coach. Again, we have a high draft pick, we have a great young core, maybe one of the best in the league. We have a superstar on our team and an open slot. So I think that people can look at this as an opportunity to come and win a championship possibly next year. And we’ve got to do the work.”

      Also: “We all know in sports when you’re winning, great things are said. When a team loses, the naysayers and negativity comes out,” Pelinka said. “That’s just the nature of the business. Right now we’re coming off a season where we lost. Again, we’re not going to be caught up in the polls of public opinion or media polls. We’re going to keep our focus on doing good work and getting to a place where we win.”

      Lastly: “I think the most important thing is that players look to who we really are and not what the impression is of what others are trying to create us to be. I think all of us know when we come to work every day that there is stability and strength and togetherness here.

      “I think for any of us, we know who we are and ourselves, we know the characteristics and qualities we stand for. And we know as a staff and feel very strongly that if people judge and evaluate us for who we are as an organization and the vision and path we have going forward, we feel there’ll be a very, very strong appeal for the great players to come here.”

      What a mind people, what a mind. Captain Teflon I sincerely and ardently hope this is the last coach you ever hire. Love, Jamie.

      • All the focus on the size of the contract maybe miss guided. The Lakers as you pointed out have been a mess. They just aren’t a well run organization. I’m sure Hurley understands that.

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    Today, like most trading deadlines, draft days and free agency, is why I tune out the clickbait media.

    I’m just not interested in the race to “Who is right” that goes down between The Athletic, ESPN, and all the major talking heads out there. They’re as close to the source of truth as I am to being a billionaire. Which is to say not at all. Enjoyable to read? Sometimes. Treated as Gospel from the Mount? Never.

    They’re justifying their jobs and they possess zero “insider” info. They are tools for leverage and misdirection. That is all. Nothing more, ever.

    Having said that, Dan Hurley is a much better candidate for the job than is JJ Reddick. It’s refreshing to hear the Lakers aren’t being suckered by decent hair product and podcast. Now, if Hurley declines we could be up the creek.

    I prefer pretty much everyone on the list over Reddick. Give me Sam I Am Cassell, Stotts, Adelman, Borego or Atkinson. All day, every day.

    There are major concerns with his overall demeanor and mental stability on the job. But his skills are undeniable. So now we wait. Hope he takes it, not sure I trust us falling back to plan B.

    On Clickbait VS Simple Truth.

    Today, like most trading deadlines, draft days and free agency, is why I tune out the clickbait media.

    I’m just not interested in the race to “Who is right” that goes down between The Athletic, ESPN, and all the major talking heads out there. They’re as close to the source of truth as I am to being a billionaire. Which is to say not at all. Enjoyable to read? Sometimes. Treated as Gospel from the Mount? Never.

    They’re justifying their jobs and they possess zero “insider” info. They are tools for leverage and misdirection. That is all. Nothing more, ever.

    Having said that, Dan Hurley is a much better candidate for the job than is JJ Reddick. It’s refreshing to hear the Lakers aren’t being suckered by decent hair product and podcast. Now, if Hurley declines we could be up the creek.

    I prefer pretty much everyone on the list over Reddick. Give me Sam I Am Cassell, Stotts, Adelman, Borego or Atkinson. All day, every day.

    There are major concerns with his overall demeanor and mental stability on the job. But his skills are undeniable. So now we wait. Hope he takes it, not sure I trust us falling back to plan B.

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    • I think it’s a done deal. Otherwise Dan would not have told his players, UConn would not be talking to potential replacements, and Dan and his agent and wife would not be flying to LA to talk to Lakers owner Jeanie Buss and GM Rob Pelinka tomorrow.

      I give Jeanie and Rob a lot of credit. They ran two campaigns for two excellent out-of-the-box candidates. Dan’s was private while JJ’s was public. Both represented head coaching candidates with strong modern offensive beliefs. Both were out of the Lakers’ normal network, which was refreshing and encouraging.

      The Lakers want to hire a legacy coach and, in my opinion, they found the two best possible candidates in JJ Redick and Dan Hurley Figure out what you want, find candidates who could be what you want even if untraditional. Sounds simple but it’s not in reality. Kudos to Jeanie and Rob IMO.

    • Hi Jaime, thanks for giving an honest opinion on this. It was just yesterday that the Athletic sounded like JJ got the job, then all of a sudden something like this comes out today. My only concern about Hurley is his style of screaming at players. Not sure how the players will respond to that. Thank you Jaime.

    • I wish this story wasn’t even out there. Cuz I’m gonna be double pissed off if JayJay ends up with the job now. Hurley is so much more the better candidate, it ain’t even close. We’ve gotta seal the deal and not even let him out the door once he gets in that meeting.

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    For my money (and it’s not) I would strongly pursue J.B. Bickerstaff pronto. Dude is a grinder, comes from great coaching genes, and has shown he can mold a team. Cavs going to regret this one since there’s no guarantee it helps keep Spyda “happy”. Honestly didn’t see this one coming at all, I think he’s done an amazing job there considering the injuries to key players every season.

    Clear first choice unless he chooses to take break.

    WOW! JB is available now!

    For my money (and it’s not) I would strongly pursue J.B. Bickerstaff pronto. Dude is a grinder, comes from great coaching genes, and has shown he can mold a team. Cavs going to regret this one since there’s no guarantee it helps keep Spyda “happy”. Honestly didn’t see this one coming at all, I think he’s done an amazing job there considering the injuries to key players every season.

    Clear first choice unless he chooses to take break.

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    • If the Cavs hire Kenny ATkinson (who has had a lotta success with Allena nd LaVert) look for a potential S&T for DLo, Kenny might be down to get the band back together and if Cleveland, as is being reported, wants a “fresh start” that’s one sure-fire way to get ‘er done.

    • It would be a ridiculous move for the Lakers to hire Bickerstaff.

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    Ok, I have a work around for the cap and coach issue: LeBron as the highest paid player coach of ALL TIME!!! Then we can add Reddick, Rondo, and all his buddies to the bench staff! Heck, they can be player coaches, too! JJ has to have a shot or 5 left in him, right? We can bring back JR Rider for laughs! Chris Bosh and D-Wade can play 5 MPG!

    This is a joke as player-coaches we’re prohibited in every CBA since 84-85. Happy Friday!

    Genius Work Around?!

    Ok, I have a work around for the cap and coach issue: LeBron as the highest paid player coach of ALL TIME!!! Then we can add Reddick, Rondo, and all his buddies to the bench staff! Heck, they can be player coaches, too! JJ has to have a shot or 5 left in him, right? We can bring back JR Rider for laughs! Chris Bosh and D-Wade can play 5 MPG!

    This is a joke as player-coaches we’re prohibited in every CBA since 84-85. Happy Friday!

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    • As I said, if Rondo’s coming I wanna see Chris Paul and Patrick Beverly on team or staff as well…..sometimes it’s best to have differing opinions!!!

    • What happens when both the player and coach spend half the game whining to the refs and the other team’s constantly in a 5-on-4?

      • Whatever happens would be an improvement on the last coach…forgot his name already.

        • Or it’ll be just about the same. This team’s record is reflective of the roster, which isn’t really in a position to improve.

          • I feel the team’s record is generally reflective of the roster + or minus some wins or losses depending on the coaching moves, and very few or none were made the last 1.5 seasons. I lay greater blame on the last coach, forgot his name, and how he just didn’t use the players on the roster in the right way. None of the young players improved, and thus the assistant coaches and developmental staff are partially to blame in all likelihood….except for an occasional flash of Max Christie who will probably seek opportunities elsewhere. Now that there will be a new head coach, replacing the last coach, whose name I cannot recall. I am more willing to see if the new coaching staff can use the roster much more effectively. There are two areas in need of improvement. Lakers need a near all star level center to take the burden off Anthony (Glassman) Davis…and improved point guard play, with either players that were on the roster this past season and may be on the roster at start of the next season. Yes, a guard such as Kyrie Irving would be great, but not at the expense of Rui, Reaves and Russell and 1-2 first round picks. We will likely need those 5 players or players of equal caliber in the next 1-5 years going forward. Just my opinions. And I’m all for trading Vanderbilt now that he is tradable. His trade value will plummet as more teams see his limitations. His contract which kicks in this coming season was far too premature, however it is a nice sizable figure, unfortunately it is not an expiring contract for teams that may be seeking such.

            • Look with the Lebron deal they’re about to cough up, it throws them into the 2nd apron. Long story short, no S&T’s, No MLE, and no taking back multiple players in a trade. So whatever visions you have of some other team returning a quality center and point guard while taking back whatever jetsam flotsam the Lakers can offer, well, you can flush that idea with coach what’s-his-name.

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    Lakers are going to be left holding the last empty chair. Other teams are moving quickly and decisively, Rob and Co. are dithering around waiting to interview a Who’s Who of Internet Clickbait.

    This is just another great example of a GM with no plan. Like are we even interviewing anyone or are we waiting for the playoffs to conclude? Hornets, Suns…they’re going to be set and with the coach they want.

    If it is JJ will have essentially backed into the job after many equally (sic: more) qualified candidates locked up jobs faster.

    Gonna just punt another summer because of this imagined privilege and exclusivity which simply doesn’t exist. We’re one of 30 jobs to head coaches and likely not even the most attractive. But we sure as shit act like we’ll have out pick if coaches, players and trades.

    We do not.

    Geez…

    Lakers are going to be left holding the last empty chair. Other teams are moving quickly and decisively, Rob and Co. are dithering around waiting to interview a Who’s Who of Internet Clickbait.

    This is just another great example of a GM with no plan. Like are we even interviewing anyone or are we waiting for the playoffs to conclude? Hornets, Suns…they’re going to be set and with the coach they want.

    If it is JJ will have essentially backed into the job after many equally (sic: more) qualified candidates locked up jobs faster.

    Gonna just punt another summer because of this imagined privilege and exclusivity which simply doesn’t exist. We’re one of 30 jobs to head coaches and likely not even the most attractive. But we sure as shit act like we’ll have out pick if coaches, players and trades.

    We do not.

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    • Yes we are hardly a coaching destination. 6 coaches since Phil with no one getting more then a couple of years. Frank won a title, watched that group dismantle over just 2 years and when AD and LeBron missed a lot of time with no real supporting cast he gets fired. Should have been Robb. Now the Lakers are a pretty good team. But it will be very difficult with our limited assets to build a great team. With its championship or bust mentality a coach has to wonder about his job security if he doesn’t win a ring.

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    Hardly any superstars over 30 left.

    Young Man’s Game

    Hardly any superstars over 30 left.

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    • Yes, it is a young man’s game. Truth is it is going to take a while before I get used to their power or the right to rule and control.

    • Lakers aren’t going to unhook themselves from the S.S. James, AD plays/feels/(is?) older than he actually is. No edge tweaks/fringe moves are gonna change that. So, if we trade any of the other core players it has to still be a younger player. The over 30 superstar, not even elite, tier players are: Siakhim, White, KCP(?), LaVert(?), Anderson and, let’s be honest, those last 3 as the main guy on their own team would scare nobody. They are elite role players which I would say shows how we can’t forget the lesson of the Laker AARP team of 21-22 with regard to vet minimum deals.

    • The big issue I see is the constant raises, outpacing growth in the cap, for these old cats. They’re getting more and more washed as their salaries get more and more punitive to team building. You got Ant killing it every night with those young legs, while guys by their mid 30’s are doing that once every 3 or so games. No one looks at the atrocious, self-serving over 38 rule CP3 instituted as “union” leader. Realistically those old guys salaries should be far more limited than the true superstars of the league. You should never sniff 30% of the cap unless you’re a top-5 MVP vote getting, 25% for all-nba, 20% for everyone else.

      • Yeah, CP3 can’t really talk about he expanded the earning power for the mid tier dudes. They got marginalized big time.

    • I am hoping we don’t do something stupid again. Vando and Austin are 25. Rui is 26. They haven’t reached their prime yet and all 3 will get better. As the Nuggets proved, continuity matters. And you can’t turn the roster over with trades every year and expect to win.

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    5 Things: Another Chapter Closed

    As the sun sets on the Laker’s once hopeful season there have been a lot of subplots, a lot of self-inflicted issues and not quite enough winning. In the end we came up against the best team and lost, again. Yes we got the losing streak over but a season of Lakers basketball is rarely, if ever, defined by the consolation prizes. Especially when we got as much as we did out of Anthony Davis and LeBron James. So as we turn to an early than desired summer of speculation I can think of at least 5 things that need to be addressed.

    1. AD. Anthony Davis is here to stay for the foreseeable future unless he demands a trade. He just played in all but 7 games and had one of his best seasons ever. There are some things that AD doesn’t do well but, by and large, it’s hard for me to critique AD after this season. Do I wish he had a little more Kobe and a little less Pau Gasol in him? Sure. But the defense is as good as it is mainly because of his effort and leadership on that end of the court. I think the best thing for AD is to have an honest conversation with management (and to a degree himself) about what his best role truly is. If he wants a banger just to play 15-20 MPG then keeping someone like Hayes makes a lot more sense and I would even encourage them to work out this summer and see how they can best compliment each other on the floor, especially on offense where things tend to get crowded unless you have 2 bigs that can shoot the three ball. If AD were being honest I think he’d see that playing the 5 is actually his best role and just stop complaining about it. Will that happen? I kinda doubt it.
    2. LBJ. LeBron has a player option this summer, have you heard? We’ll get into that aspect of it all down yonder. I want to take a moment to appreciate what LeBron has just accomplished which is to have the best season an athlete of his age has ever had in the NBA and probably top 5 in all sport. His work last summer on his three ball translated so well onto the court it’s almost a shame he didn’t shoot it more in the playoffs (although I understand why and it’s because we generate our best offense in the paint which translate well to the free throw line differential). One has to at least wonder what LeBron could do next season with a summer of basically just getting his ankle right and working on his game in the lab. He may not be the LeBron of old, and the debate about what his contract size means to the overall roster quality is a certainly a valid one, but there’s no denying that if LeBron walked away now he’d be walking out while still being capable of playing at a ‘top 20 in the game right now’ level.
    3. 6/29/24. The date by which all of our players with player options need to decide whether to pick them up or test free agency. Those players are LeBron James ($51,408,000), D’Angelo Russell ($18,692,307), Christian Wood ($3,036,040), Cam Reddish ($2,463,946), and Jaxson Hayes (also $2,463,946) along with deciding whether or not to sign Max Christie ($2,321,816) and Skylar Mayes ($2,244,249) to a Qualifying Offer. That is a $78,064,239.00 question mark that is wholly out of the hands of the front office and if they choose to sign both Mayes and Christie to their QO’s we’ll have $82,630,304 in player options (if the Lakers offer the QO both players can either walk away and test restricted free agency as the Lakers have matching rights for both). Feels highly likely that Cam and Christian pick their respective options up. They played pretty inconsistently, were injured a lot, and weren’t highly sought after last season. Especially Wood, who comes with a unique set of luggage that I’m not sure this quiet season put behind him. Hayes is an interesting question as he showed a ton of improvement over the course of the season and could probably find a raise on the open market since he’s making bottom barrel money. I can see a lot of teams offering him a chunk of their MLE (no Bi-Annual until next summer) or possibly even their full MLE if they really believe he has room for growth. Those are the small fish, the two big ones are of course DLo and LBJ. It’s hard to say what LeBron will do but my bet is he opts in without an extension and just does 1 year deals after this. He will not take less and I don’t think he cares about any of the questions surrounding anything he does as he knows there are fewer and fewer seasons of them coming. Russell is a true quandary to me. Played about to his earning level this season, in my opinion. You can take snap shots of the season where he played a lot worse and a lot better and therein lies the rub. Inconsistency is the bane of playoff success, however, so it’s hard to see playoff contenders lining up with a bigger offer, at best maybe a similar offer but with more years. If Russell walks it won’t be easy to replace him, we won’t have free cap space to make a splashy free agency signing and so would require a trade, or sign and trade, to make it happen. Probably can’t work a sign and trade, honestly, as it would hard cap us at $172 million (estimated, hard number to come) and if everyone picks up their options it puts us at $178 million. That’s with Prince, Dinwiddie, Mayes and Christie walking. In short, in order to make a splash it will be via trade which means 2-3 players gotta go.
    4. Injuries. Yeah, they were a real thing this season as we all heard. A lot. And often. Still, the core of Russell, Reaves, James and Davis played no fewer than 71 games each. Hachimura played 68. So, if the logic is that Vanderbilt and Vincent are somehow such integral pieces that we would have beaten Denver or vaulted towards the top portion of the western conference (+9-10 games), I have to disagree. I’m a huge Vanderbilt fan and Vincent looks like he’s not as bad as Kendrick Nunn but they are not +9/10 game players or series altering against Denver. That is an excuse, not a reason. Fans can use excuses and it’s totally fine. Coaches, management and players cannot. At my job if I get sick the work does not go away. It’s waiting for me when I get back. So if Coach Ham wants to use injuries as an excuse as to why the season went south on the team I expect he’ll be looking for a new job soon.
    5. Speaking of Coach Ham. I still got 50/50 odds he’s back to start the 2024-25 campaign. Maybe with new defensive assistant coach Frank Vogel or offensive coordinator Adrian Griffin or some such but I doubt he gets fired. There are baked in excuses already parroted by everyone in the organization. If Denver repeats there will be solace taken in losing to the champs, again. Most of all, for all the “money is no object to THIS team” being paraded around the internet since we got shown the playoff door, true Laker fans know that is utter BS. Money is definitely a consideration which is why we cheap out on training staff. Toss in the fact that, other than Mike Budenholzer, there are no established coaches out there who’ve shown to be better than Darvin Ham. Mike has won a chip, at least, so I guess there’s that. Still, LeBron will not likely want another 1st year “what in tarnation should I do now?!” head coach to carry along with his body and the team. So, yeah it’s possible Coach Ham gets shown the door but it’s unlikely his replacement is all that much better.

    Here’s a list of the free agents this summer. Click here.

    It’s not all that great and the ones we’d want are probably out of our price range of what we can offer. Enjoy the summer everyone!

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    • Thanks, Jamie. Too bad we are not going to see the fiver any much longer as the season has come to a screeching halt. But one person you mentioned briefly is Jackson Hayes. I thought I am the only one who would like to see him stay. He is the one pIayer who brings energy to the team, something hard to find on this team. I would like to see him groomed, and polish his craft. I think he is going to be valuable beyond estimation.

      • Great stuff JS and I also think Hayes is a keeper. And only 5 months till the new season!

        • 5 months till the new season? Wow, that feels like eternity. Thank God the Olympics will be here for the rescue.

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