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Hi, Jamie,
Lots of stuff for us to debate on the podcast Sunday. Obviously, we have some major differences of opinion on whom the Laker should keep and whom are expendable. So let’s get into it.
(1) We’re in agreement that Rajon Rondo was the third most important player in the Lakers’ playoff and championship run and their second most critical player to re-sign for next season. As for the Playoff Rondo moniker, the stats and the eye test confirm it’s true.
Where we differ is why it’s true, which is not as some claim that Rajon doesn’t work as hard or care as much during the regular season, but rather the reality of games in a series allowing Rondo’s smarts and ability to figure out how to beat what another team is doing shines.
The NBA’s plans to play MLB type series to avoid travel makes re-signing Rondo even more important as it makes regular season games for 2021 a lot more like the playoffs. A 4 -game series against the Blazers or Nuggets will be like a mini-playoff series.
Bottom line, we must keep Rondo.
(2) While I love Caruso, he isn’t close to being the second most important keeper for the Lakers. That player was the guy you left off your list: Kentavious Caldwell-Pope. Treating AC as untouchable is ridiculous. In fact, there’s a more valid argument that right now, when his value is at a high and teams are inquiring about him, is the time to move him.
I wouldn’t do that for many players but I wouldn’t hesitate to do it for Jrue Holiday, who can impact the team in far more important ways than Alex can. Alex is not a star. He’s a great role player. True stars are few and far between. Great role players are rare but not irreplaceable. The GOAT label is fun and a sign of respect and love for AC but taking it as seriously as you and many Lakers fans seem to have done borders on insanity.
Bottom line, Caruso is a keeper except in a trade for a superstar.
(3) Kuzma will be traded. He plays the same positions as LeBron and AD. He needs starter minutes and pay and will get them. Unfortunately, it won’t be for the Lakers. I do think there’s a possibility he will still be with the team to start the season but he won’t finish because the Lakers are in a WIN NOW mode and you can’t repeat by keeping your best trade asset and hope he improves 10% to 15%. Time’s run out.
I like Kuz and respect how he’s improved his game and approach from the kid gunner he was a couple of years ago. I also think he’ll grow into a quality starter and near All-Star. Just not the time or opportunity to do it as a Laker.
Bottom line, Kuzma will likely be traded.
(4) I have mixed feelings about Dwight. I think he was essential against Jokic but, like JaVale, became unplayable against the Heat. Ironically, like you, I think center is a critical position for the Lakers. The difference is I think we need modern centers who can shoot the three and defend the perimeter as well as protect the rim.
Time for Dwight and JaVale to go and Lakers to replace them with stretch centers like Myles Turner, Christian Wood, or Aron Baynes.
Bottom line, Dwight is a keeper but may be gone.
(5) Keeping Danny Green and letting KCP go? Ain’t going to happen, man. KCP was probably the third best player on the team regular season and playoffs and a Klutch client to beat. Only way he goes is if we reward him with a big S&T for a third superstar. Kenny sacrificed and took those one-year deals and now deserves a multiple year deal and I think he will get it.
As for Danny Green, he had a better season than his stats and the eye test showed. Great Net Rating and Plus/Minus. Problem is his salary is the only one we have over $6M so his $15M and expiring contract are more valuable as trading chips than he is as a player.
Bottom line, Danny is likely to be traded more for his salary than his performance.
Bottom line, KCP was our fourth most important player and must be kept.
(6) Markieff was probably the fifth most important player on the team after LeBron, AD, Rondo, and KCP but whether he re-signs or leaves will depend on he and his brother’s situation and who the Lakers trade for. I could even see a situation where we signed both Morris brothers.
Bottom line, Avery is a keeper but along with Danny, could be traded because of his salary.
Keepers:
1. LeBron
2. AD
3. Rondo
4. KCP
5. Morris
6. AC
7. THT
8. DudleyProbably Gone:
1 Dwight
2. DG
3. KK
4. AB
5. JaValeCertainly gone:
1. Smith
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it’s not that I want to see KCP leave it’s that we are likely to have a player under contract that emulates the skillset, likely for less than It will take to resign KCP.
Winning it all without Caruso? Uhm……no, that is a ludicrous assumption. He was the 3rd best defender on the team and a key cog on offense. The numbers bear that out.
The market for Green will not be bullish, the reasons why are the same as to why you include him in every trade. It’s not because of his impact. A rebuilding team won’t want him and winners won’t part with the caliber of player we need for Green.
KCP’s one year contracts weren’t a “sacrifice” he made bank when there wasn’t much of a market for him and he was rewarded aptly for it. I hope he stays but I don’t deem him essential based on the other players in the roster.
Should we trade for Holiday, CP3 or any other high value contract the hard cap situation will remain. Unless the market for Pope’s services is so bad he’ll make more than the MLE, so unless you use cap space to sign him blasting past the cap will trigger the hard cap. Once you sign him into the open space (which is almost all going to AD) that’s it. So unless Klutch is into KCP playing for below market value (doubt it) I fully expect for their to be both more lucrative offers and bigger guaranteed roles out there.
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Jamie, Your understanding of the hard cap situation is not correct.
We have KCP’s Bird rights. He’ll re-sign for $12 million. We can go over cap for him and up to $10 million for Rondo without worrying about cap. Even if we were to trade him in a S&T, no hard cap. Hard cap only applies if we get a player via S&T
We won’t be hard capped unless we find a star player who we like enough to use the NP MLE or to S&T. Those are the only two situations where we will be hard capped.
Trading for Holiday, CP3, Turner, or Oladipo don’t cause a hard cap because they’re under contract. Only trading for Wood or VanVleet would cause a hard cap.
If we opt to hard cap, it will because we landed a star player like Wood in a S&T or signed somebody like him or Gallo for the NT MLE. Even then, we’ll have enough room under the $139 million for KCP and Rondo. The players at risk in that situation are Morris and Howard, not KCP.
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It’s my belief that Pope will be fielding offers above $12 mil. As I’ve stated, numerous times but I suppose once more doesn’t hurt, I would live for KCP to stay a Laker. But I also stand by that idea that we have players under contract that emulate the skillset he possesses. Now if Bradley opts out that changes the equation. But, should be opt in as expected I won’t be surprised if the math to keep him doesn’t work out.
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Hey, Jamie,
I must admit I have real problems with both the content and order of your five keepers:
1. Rajon Rondo
2. Alex Caruso
3. Kyle Kuzma
4. Dwight Howard
5. Danny GreenMy list would be:
1. Rajon Rondo
2. Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
3. Alex Caruso
4. Markieff Morris
5. Dwight HowardThe heart of my problem with your list is that your third and fifth choices don’t even make my list of necessary keepers. Frankly, both underperformed during both the regular season and playoffs. I don’t see how you can deny that since the stats and eye test both clearly show that. They’re clearly the main pieces along with the first-round pick that the Lakers will be looking to trade. Including them in your list is puzzling at best.
What’s worst is including Kuzma and Green insults the contributions made by Kentavious Caldwell-Pope and Markieff Morris. There is no question KCP was more valuable than Danny Green at half the price. And there is no question Markieff Morris was more valuable than Kyle Kuzma, again at half the price.
Finally, there’s the realities you are ignoring:
First, Kuzma and Green are the Lakers’ main trading chips for obvious reasons and there’s a good chance they will be traded.
Second, KCP is a Klutch client and it’s unlikely he will not re-sign with the Lakers. We have his Bird rights and if some team outbids the Lakers, we’re likely to see some form of S&T. KCP will not do anything to hurt LeBron, AD, and the Lakers chances of repeating. He’s more important than having the NT MLE in the end.
Third, Morris was a big key to the championship and keeping him is more important than keeping Howard, who only has value against certain teams. There aren’t many players who can replace what he brings to the Lakers. His brother is the only concern since they apparently share their bank accounts.
My apologies for getting testy. You’re certainly entitled to your opinions but your logic totally escapes me. But, hey, that’s what makes the world turn and the blog hum. I’m sure we’ll talk about this more on the podcast.


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It’s a matter of cost vs. impact. Kuzma is cheap, still growing and came into the season injured. So, I’m his case, I don’t see it as a step back or treading water if we keep him and develop stats for the future. I’ll admit it was a toss up between Dwight and Kentavious. Not putting him in my top 5 was tough but I’m at peace with it if AB opts in. There’s a reason why one replaces the other at various points throughout the season. I don’t sought Bradley for his choice to not enter the bubble, he was often our 3rd best player in the regular season, no reason not to assume he wouldn’t do as well in the playoffs. Having said that, should he opt out, it gives us more flexibility to keep KCP. It’s just a top five list, after all.
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Buba,
I agree 100% with your comments and have actually revised my post to reflect it. I clearly overreacted to Jamie’s controversial post and let it affect my comments. Thanks for calling me out on the team aspect. It’s always important to have an open mind and great friends to keep you from overreacting in these polarizing times.
By the way, congratulations to Stacy Abrams and the state of GA for changing the dynamic in the south. You should be proud of what you accomplished. I know everybody is saying there’s no chance the Dems will win those senate runoffs but I have a hunch the jury is still out and GA may surprise everybody again. Great day to celebrate.
We’re having a podcast Sunday at 3:00 pm PST. Let me know if you would like to join us. If so, I’ll send you instructions on what you’ll need. It’s really simple and we’d love to have you join us. Just reply here or email me.
Thanks again for the comments and help.
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Thanks, Buba. Sorry you can’t make it Sunday. What are your days off. With the season starting soon, there will be plenty of opportunities for you to join us.
We’ll be counting on you Georgians to complete the arduous comeback on January 5th. Everybody says it can’t be done but I think we have a real chance.
Two great candidates and a state on a high for what they’ve already accomplished. Hopes and prayers will be with you. Go, Lakers!
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Thanks Buba. You are spot on and we are of the same mind when it comes to doing everything possible to keep the team together. The list is my first five, if possible I’m in favor of running it back as is. If they didn’t make the list it’s not because I don’t want them to be Lakers, and in fact a couple are under contract for next season, it’s as much a list of players I consider to be nigh untradeable. Having said that, J consider both Markieff and KCP, and frankly even Dwight Howard, to be long shots to return. They played well enough that they may have priced their way off the roster. While the Lakers are obviously in win-now mode and are one of the more prosperous franchises I don’t think they’ll break the bank to keep a KCP or Morris simply because they’ll want to have financial flexibility next offseason. Giannis will be pursued, I believe. On top of the the economic uncertainty will almost certainly forced the entire NBA to show a modicum of restraint in terms of paying the luxury tax. It’s almost certain we won’t be offering guys like Morris, Howard and KCP the sort of long term deal with the right amount of zeros they’ll be looking for. Maybe I’m wrong, maybe they to a man are happier about being Lakers than making money or having a bigger role. I’m not sure we can offer them those things.
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What the owners have to keep in mind is each of them has made immense profits of hundreds of millions of dollars in the appreciation of the value of their franchises, none of which gets taxed until the sell. Those gains are likely 50 times what they would lose in a couple of pandemic afflicted years. They’re not going to kill the golden goose by locking out the players. Nor are any but a few outliers going to cash in and take less right now when they’ll get back any lost value and more by staying.
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Sounds like Daryl Morey is about to start running Philly. Will they make Simmons or Embiid available or does he tear it down and build it back with Doc? Isay that, by year’s end, they’re trading 1 of the 2. Should be interesting
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Smart move by Philly to hire Morey. While some don’t support his love of analytics, he’s clearly proved he is one of the best general managers in the league.
76ers do have a modern center in Embiid and you could argue Simmons is a better version of Russell Westbrook. The big question is how do you reconcile Daryl’s philosophy with Docs? Oh, forgot, Doc has no driving philosophy except roll the ball out and don’t rock the boat.
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10% drop in BRI, profits down to “only” $8.3 billion (down, one would assume based on the math, from $90+billion). But that’s not the bad news. Negotiations are going to heat up because, let’s face it, there won’t be much (if any) gate revenue next season. Might want to hold off on the whole ‘how do we improve the team’ speculation and switch over to ‘will we even have a season?’ speculation…
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If the league and NBPA had used the old formula the cap would probably be in the $90 million range, a $19 million drop. So how the 2 sides agree to float, ease or eliminate the cost is at the crux of how the NBA can move forward.
Furthermore, a lockout is NOT out of the question. Owners might be looking at the idea of a season with zero fans as bad economic idea. While I find that option to be extreme…I am not an NBA team owner. The league projects to lose 40% of it’s projected revenue next season if there are no fans, another $4billion. Buckle up, we’re not even close to getting this thing off the ground but the doing will assuredly be bumpy.
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NBA and NBPA will come to some arrangement to use artificial numbers. May raise the tax line and apron to encourage more free agency action. You don’t throw away a rosy future because of two years of pandemic distress. Nor will you see anybody selling their franchises.
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If the owners decide to move forward (and they likely will if the NBPA agrees to the 12-22 start time my concern stems from the possibility that the NBPA digs in on a 2021 start date) then there will almost certainly be a flattened cap. The how may take some time.
One thing I don’t believe has been given a lot of air time or head space is, if they choose not to flatten the cap and it drops they could include an amnesty provision for teams to be able to amnesty a single deal (potentially) and get below the cap. Feels like the NBPA would probably fight that, but I’m not sure to what degree.
The biggest obstacle I honestly see to the 12-22 start date is hammering out the changes to the CBA. Likely they need to announce it by early November (like the first Friday in November at the latest) to at least announce a plausible framework.
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Great suggestions, Jamie. Agree with all including the virtual fans. Be great to have a live strip of virtual fans surrounding the arena. Fill it with Lakers fans who can’t make live games. I’m also guessing we may see a transition period when the season starts with limited live fans.
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Aloha Jamie!!!
Great choices for your 5 things. There were so many great things to choose from. i like that you highlighted Alex. again he led the team in plus minus with a plus 20. he just does so many winning things that fly under the radar. little did we know when had to trade Ball to land AD that Alex would step into that void and perform at this level. while hes not the passer that Lonzo is, he’s a better defender and scrappier then Lonzo was here. oh and he finishes at the rim.
i think if i were to add a 6th point, it’s how all 17 guys bought in and accepted their roles without complaint. this led to something we haven’t seen in Laker land for a long time. A drama free season! You may have to go back to the Magic years to find that. win or lose, champions or also rans, there always seemed to be some drama in each and every season.
thanks for the fivers Jaime, much appreciatrd. go Lakers!!!
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Great FIVER, Jamie. Hard not to make it a TENER or FIFTEENER. Agree with every single word you wrote. We’re finally in perfect sync after a season of butting water glasses.
I two three personal 5 Things:
One is the 5 keys to the Lakers championship and next dynasty: LeBron, AD, Vogel, Pelinka, and Jeanie.
The other is to the players who drove the championship:
LeBron, AD, KCP, Rondo, and Caruso.Thanks to you and Sean for all your great work as Blog Editors, writers and comment drivers, and podcasters. And thanks also to Gerald and Rafael for the great Lakers Fast Break podcasts.
LOS ANGELES LAKERS, 2020 NBA CHAMPIONS!
And more rings in the future for sure …
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Good ‘Fiver,’ Jamie. Jimmy wins the war, knock on wood AD’s OK, great game by LeBron (including making the right play at the end), our bench sucked, and flush this game and get ready for Sunday night. Time for the Lakers to finish this from start to close. No more messing around.
And Frank Vogel needs to wake up and start Morris over Howard. Say all you want about the first 10 minutes the game not mattering but Frank can’t allow the Lakers to play tomorrow nighyt’s game from behind.
Nor can he call a play where the game winning shot is taken by Danny Green rather than KCP or Morris. Everybody knew the Heat were going to make somebody not named LeBron James beat them and picking Danny to set the screen for LeBron was a brain dead move by Vogel.
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Good stuff as always, Jamie. Thanks.
1) While it wasn’t the best games for either LeBron or AD, especially in the first half, they both came up big when it counted and that’s what makes champions.
For me this game came down to the defending the superstars. The Lakers did exactly what I said they had to do, which is go under those screens and force Butler to shoot the threes, which he didn’t want to do and was 0-3 when he did.
Meanwhile, the Heat and Jimmy did the same to LeBron but he responding by hitting two big threes to hold the Heat in check. Taking and making those threes opened up driving lanes that let the Lakers win this game.
AD volunteering and shutting Jimmy down in the last three quarters was key as was his dagger three to ice the game.
2) I agree with you on KCP and Green, although Danny was shakey offensively. Those 5 points down the stretch by Kenny were big. No more KFC jokes on his part. He’s a Lakers and should stay that way. As for Danny, $15M expiring contract is sure to be traded.
3) I’ve been touting the Lakers are having a better bench than the Heat and that proved to be true for the second game in a row, although I will concede their bench was depleted by missing starters. Don’t forget the Lakers lost a starting guard in Bradley,
4) I agree the job we did in keeping Jimmy off the line was superb but it was going under the screens and having AD on him to prevent those straight line drives. Also, Jimmy was beat after the first quarter by carrying the Heat and trying to guard the bigger LeBron.
5) Frank Vogel is the unsung hero of this team and the Lakerholics.Com COY. His final evolution as a great coach was starting Markieff Morris in the second half and moving AD to center. Morris for McGee against the Heat. Howard for McGee against the Nuggets. And now back to Morris for Howard in the Finals. That’s the lineup we should hit the floor with to end the season on Friday.
LAKERS OVER HEAT IN FIVE. JUST LIKE AGAINST THE BLAZERS, ROCKETS, AND NUGGETS. GO, LAKERS!
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Thanks buba, totally agree on the perception points and the corroded storyline that could (will?) come out of these Finals. I’ve always thought that the team that made it to the next round was the team that deserved to win. Some people like to over-weigh the effect match ups have, and they do have an impact. But match ups didn’t force the Clippers to blow big leads and lose the series. Match ups didn’t stop Boston from not treating these games with the importance they deserve or to lose focus for whole halves at a time. Match ups are what a coach can adjust (except Mike “One Dimension” D’Antoni…). So, for me, it’s a moot point.
Really looking forward to Friday and hope the extra rest gives us a rea;;y exciting and entertaining game.
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Great ‘Fiver,’ Jamie.
1) Agree with everything. Undefeated when they shoot over 30% from deep. Still never allowed the Heat to threaten. Series is over. Odds for Lakers win are now 200 to 1.
2) Nice adjustment by Vogel playing LeBron and AD under the Heat zone even out of bounds. Hard to keep your eye on the ball and the defender in that situation. Made it easy to step in and gret great position for lobs, offensive boards, etc.
3) Not only best duo but best two players. #1 and #2 or 1A and 1B. Or Best present and future. Lakers have the building blocks for another dynasty. Magic and Kareem. Kobe and Shaq. LeBron and AD.
4) More proof the Lakers bench is better than Heat bench. Underrated and dissed all season long. Some benches can outscore them but few can contribute in all of the ways they do.
5) Wounded animals can bite but in the condition the Heat are not kill you. More like a wounded kitty or puppy than a wounded lion or tiger. Heat going down in 4. First prediction I missed this postseason.
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Aloha Jamie,
Nice write up as always. this was a hard game for me. i celebrated the win but man, the Heat were 31 for 34 from the line! we dominated but won by only 10 because they had 21 more points from free throws then we did. now I’m okay if a guy fouls trying to take a charge or fouls crahing the boards or is going mano on mano fighting for position. but so many of our fouls were ticky tack, silly little fouls that i was getting totally frustrated. We really need to clean that up in game 3. Go lakers!
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