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    The notion that Russell Westbrook will accept a buyout upon arriving at his new team (all assumed at this point, no actual evidence he will be traded) has come under little to no scrutiny. Well, let’s change that. Because you can’t truly buyout Westbrook unless he obliges his new team by forfeiting money he is due to be paid. Waiving him leaves his salary on the books. In fact, any salary NOT forfeited will remain on whatever team he may end up on’s cap sheet.

    So…what amount does anyone think Russ will willingly walk away from? Knowing this is his last big payday he’ll ever get what is a number that would make sense. Frankly, if it’s me I forfeit zero. Pay me. I earned that money. But I’m not a pro athlete looking for a situation where I can come in and help a team win a ring.

    I would imagine the cutoff is no lower than half of that massive amount of money. So half of $47,063,478 is exactly $23,531,739. Honestly, even that feels like a big “if”. Unless you’re planning on tanking outright that’s a gargantuan chunk of cap space to account for. Most ownership groups will think twice about either paying out that much money just to watch sign with Team X (potentially in their division and/or major rival) and I find the idea that Russ will walk away for more than half absurd.

    So, since team’s in contention in large markets value cap space more than just about anything else when it comes to filling out a roster that means zero contending teams will be interested in Russ but we kind of knew that already. They won’t pay Russ to not play. Same, I would imagine, for teams on the cusp of contention (Knicks, Hornets, really any team that is 10-6 seeding wise in this year’s playoff/playin). That shrinks your trade partners to less then a handful of teams: Houston, Orlando, Oklahoma and maybe, just maybe Portland.

    Now a team could choose to waive and stretch him meaning they stretch his salary out over the next 3 seasons (this is a not malleable, the 3 seasons is based on the number of years remaining on Russ’ deal which will be 1) and maybe a team like Charlotte or Indy and possibly others (most of whom have already signaled “No thank you!” on a Westbrook trade) looks at that scenario as being better than paying a broken down player of their own. Hard to say.

    In the end the question seems like a big one considering the implications of someone taking Russell’s contract on. Very hard for me to imagine Russ walking away from so much money or a team allowing him to clutter up their cap space to such a degree while he plays elsewhere on their dime. Again, while it’s likely to happen this summer seeing as how poorly the Westbrook fit has been, the devil is often in the details.

    The Buyout Question

    The notion that Russell Westbrook will accept a buyout upon arriving at his new team (all assumed at this point, no actual evidence he will be traded) has come under little to no scrutiny. Well, let’s change that. Because you can’t truly buyout Westbrook unless he obliges his new team by forfeiting money he is due to be paid. Waiving him leaves his salary on the books. In fact, any salary NOT forfeited will remain on whatever team he may end up on’s cap sheet.

    So…what amount does anyone think Russ will willingly walk away from? Knowing this is his last big payday he’ll ever get what is a number that would make sense. Frankly, if it’s me I forfeit zero. Pay me. I earned that money. But I’m not a pro athlete looking for a situation where I can come in and help a team win a ring.

    I would imagine the cutoff is no lower than half of that massive amount of money. So half of $47,063,478 is exactly $23,531,739. Honestly, even that feels like a big “if”. Unless you’re planning on tanking outright that’s a gargantuan chunk of cap space to account for. Most ownership groups will think twice about either paying out that much money just to watch sign with Team X (potentially in their division and/or major rival) and I find the idea that Russ will walk away for more than half absurd.

    So, since team’s in contention in large markets value cap space more than just about anything else when it comes to filling out a roster that means zero contending teams will be interested in Russ but we kind of knew that already. They won’t pay Russ to not play. Same, I would imagine, for teams on the cusp of contention (Knicks, Hornets, really any team that is 10-6 seeding wise in this year’s playoff/playin). That shrinks your trade partners to less then a handful of teams: Houston, Orlando, Oklahoma and maybe, just maybe Portland.

    Now a team could choose to waive and stretch him meaning they stretch his salary out over the next 3 seasons (this is a not malleable, the 3 seasons is based on the number of years remaining on Russ’ deal which will be 1) and maybe a team like Charlotte or Indy and possibly others (most of whom have already signaled “No thank you!” on a Westbrook trade) looks at that scenario as being better than paying a broken down player of their own. Hard to say.

    In the end the question seems like a big one considering the implications of someone taking Russell’s contract on. Very hard for me to imagine Russ walking away from so much money or a team allowing him to clutter up their cap space to such a degree while he plays elsewhere on their dime. Again, while it’s likely to happen this summer seeing as how poorly the Westbrook fit has been, the devil is often in the details.

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    • I’m no salary cap/CBA expert so if I am wrong on something written above please feel free to leave a correction. Thanks.

      • Aloha Jamie, here is how it works. If the Lakers waive and stretch Russ. He becomes a free agent. Any team that signs him will not owe any money. What could happen is his agent might find a deal out there for let’s say generously offers him 2 years at say 15 mil. Each. Russ might agree to reduce his buy out figure by 15 mil to 32 mil instead of the 47 he is owed. Unfortunately teams might just wait to see if Russ is bought out without a promise. If no promise exists Russ might want out so badly that he may agree to give up a little of that 47 mil but realistically it probably only be maybe 3 to 5 mil. Or Some figure that his agent feels he can realistically get on the open market. I definitely would give his agent permission to talk with other clubs. Now we all know that his agent can’t talk to anyone before free agency begins. Wink wink nod nod.

        • That part I get, I was wondering more about the potential cap hit a team trading for him would have to deal with after buying him out as has been semi-reported/theorized.

    • Russ ain’t about that leaving millions on the table life. I’m not even sure he’s about that winning a title to legitimize his legacy life. I think he’s about that F*%k You, Pay Me life.

    • Thanks, that’s helpful

    • Good post, Jamie. Russ being more willing than Wall to buy out his last year rather than sit is a wild card and you don’t know where he might end.

      Lots of teams might be willing to gamble on Russ on $5 to $7M contract than a $47M one. I could see him ending up with the Knicks or even the Clippers (one can hope, LOL).

      Most buyouts are limited to how much the player can get on the market once he is bought out. I think Michael’s $15M over two years could be high for Russ at this point. $6.2M ME for a year could be his limit.

      • That’s my theory as well, Tom. Which still begs the question of what team wants to play next season with a $30ish million handicap? Feels like you’re choosing to tank out of the gate.

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    5 Things: The Last Gasp

    I am remembering the entertaining and informative ESPN docuseries, The Last Dance. A poignant reminder to Laker fans as to how quickly and utterly things can deteriorate internally when the blame game starts, or front office executives think they know what a coach needs or which players are worth more than others. As far as the game today is concerned, for me it’s a non-event as I’ll be going to a friends wedding so enjoy. There wasn’t anything left worth paying attention to in this season a couple games after the All Star Break. This team does not, and never did, have the goods.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2vwr-ln8D4
    1. The Blame Game. This is where all parties involved need to tread more carefully than any of them seem to acknowledge. LeBron James is not a robot and if you actually want him to play here beyond next season then they should start acting like that. Great NBA players are people, too. They have wrinkles, bad days, and personality issues of their own. In LeBron’s case it’s that he demands the front office surround him with star power enough to compete for championships and is willing to say or do just about anything to make sure that happens. The fallout from Scottie Pippin not checking back into a game has lasted decades. The fallout from the front office throwing LeBron under the bus while seemingly taking almost zero onus on themselves for the Westbrook trade can do as much damage over the course of this summer. There is never, ever a winner in the Blame Game. So stop playing it.
    2. The Health Issue. It’s no secret our two best players have missed a grip of games over the last two seasons, benefitted from a three month break in the season when they did win a banner, and are, indeed, aging as we speak. Barring an unlikely as hell trade for either AD or LeBron they are who we will be building around this summer and so keeping them on the floor for 3/4’s of the season moves to the second highest priority after fixing the team. We said it last season, this summer, during the season and still today: we are going as far as James and Davis take us. It will be true until they depart. THT is not taking us to the highest level. Matt McClung, Wenyan and Stanley are window dressing at the mall, they will not alter the direction of the franchise in a meaningful way. We NEED James and Davis to play and they need to play at a fairly high level. Putting the injuries aside, LeBron turned in a historic campaign and played his rear end off all season long. Davis…well, he was pretty good on D but otherwise continued his regression from three and his jumper continues to become a secondary weapon. This won’t help our spacing issues. We need Davis to be the perimeter threat he once was.
    3. The Westbrook Dilemma. The fit of Russel is poor, that is no longer debatable. The ability to move Westbrook for players of true impact is also poor and, frankly, unlikely. When the best you can do is John Wall, Gordon Hayward or a player exception for your $47 million dollar PG you’re backed into a corner. That’s putting it nicely. Russ’s best ability is his availability, he’s not an elite scorer and his elite passing comes with equally elite turnover capacity. His price tag, while expiring, is enormous and will make smaller market teams who are constantly wary of going into the luxury tax zone more wary to deal for him. Large market franchises have signaled through the same channels the Lakers use to troll their superstars that they aren’t all that interested in bailing us out. That leaves us with some fairly unpalatable choices. At least that’s how it looks now. You never know what can change over the course of a playoff series or what other costly player will demand this summer (I’m looking at you Dame…). But, regardless of what LeBron says in his interviews about Steph Curry or other elite shooters, the return for Russ will likely be, at best, a break even affair. At worst we’ll trade our two draft picks for John Wall or Gordon Hayward who play for less than half of a season and don’t impact our winning chances all that much.
    4. The Young Dudes. Look…it’s really great that Stanley has a team option and got back into the NBA, that Wenyan found a team that could use his athletic ability and Matt McClung will get some run today. These are not needle moving players. They are roster spots 12, 13, and 14 on a championship team. They are DNP-CD during the playoffs, maybe Johnson sees some consistent minutes of the three in a specific match up. There’s a reason why these guys were in the G-League, 6th team in 3 seasons and waiver wire fodder. It’s because they’re just not that good but play really hard. Now I will be the first one to embrace a player or two on a roster like that, they are a necessary component to the recipe that constitutes a successful NBA team and we don’t need three of them. But they do not make us contenders in any way. Depending on the coach we bring in they might not even play just because they lack touch from the outside.
    5. Farewell Frank…? The funny thing about all the blame game chatter is how it predicts Frank as being the fall guy while being short on reasons why. The scuttlebutt is more focused on the front office, James, Davis and Westbrook. While whomever is leaking this BS (Kurt) out of the Lakers (Rambis) is likely congratulating themselves on shielding themselves (Kurt and Linda) from Jeannie’s wrath it also has the duplicate effect of shielding Frank from some of the blame. For every “Westbrook didn’t respect Frank guys!!!” article someone leaks to Silver Screen and Roll or to the Kamentzky Bros. there is also a ready-made excuse for Jeannie to ultimately retain the coach they are certainly going to be paying for next season. Given the ownership groups issues with spending, Frank’s recent banner he helped hang, and the fact he’s under contract next season it’s not outside the realm of reality that Frank mans the sidelines once again next season. I won’t go so far as to predict that will happen, feels like somebody other than Russ needs to take the fall, but it could happen.

    Anyhow, that’s the last Fiver for this season. There’s nothing else to say that I haven’t said since training camp and the horse is well-flogged. If you were to put a gun to my head I would predict Frank gets fired, we trade Russ and our picks for Wall and we have a season a lot like this one next year. I don’t have any faith left in Rob or ownership to make smart decisions and our assets aren’t going to bring back great talent. Wall and Hayward are awful options, our coaching search last time didn’t inspire any confidence, and LeBron can’t keep this up forever. At some point he will begin to age and it could simply take the form of impressive stats in losing efforts and games missed. One way or another Rob has to thread quite the needle this summer and he doesn’t have any more mulligans to spare. The Lakers have their proverbial back against the proverbial wall.

    Here’s hoping he can. Go Lakers.

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    • Good fiver, Jamie. Thanks.

      1. Blame game. Hope this doesn’t get too messy during the offseason. It’s already looking like open season on throwing everybody under the bus. What else is new?

      2. Health game. Lakers ain’t going to win any more titles with LeBron and AD unless both are healthy all season long. If they don’t believe they can keep both healthy, then they should trade them right now.

      3. Westbrook dilemma. I’m actually optimistic that Russ’ expiring contract and the two first round picks are going to be valuable trading chips that will get us at least two new starters.

      4. Young dudes. Bring back Reaves, Johnson, and Gabriel via team options and re-sign Monk with mini or full MLE.

      5. Farewell Frank. Vogel got a bum deal this season with the roster given him but there’s no way he returns. Lakers should have let him go early in the season to optimize the roster they had. Big mistake. Time to look at Rajon Rondo as Lakers next head coach.

      • Thanks LT, going to be a long summer of BS before any of it even starts to take shape. Planet Earth loves to love and hate the Lakers all at once.
        Hopefully we get a little trade kick and a lot of health luck due us.

    • Thanks Buba. Trying to come at this all objectively but with hope.

    • I tend to agree with this therealhtj, hard for me to see us solving every issue this summer given the materials we have to work with. You could well be right that #18 is won by The Next Generation of Lakers.

    • LSD-infused smoothie made me audibly chortle.

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    The horse is dead and well-flogged. No need to continue. There should not be a player Rob doesn’t at least take a call for. When Frank gets fired you’ll see the band aid that’s trying to cover a deeper, far more serious wound. We need to tear it down and, to quote a campaign slogan, “build back better.” The problem is we won’t. Rob will stay, AD and LBJ will be here, maybe even Russ. Feels like Frank is doing everything he can to make certain he’s fired at this point. Worst season ever by a country mile. The end is, mercifully, nigh.

    5 Things: Nothing good to say

    The horse is dead and well-flogged. No need to continue. There should not be a player Rob doesn’t at least take a call for. When Frank gets fired you’ll see the band aid that’s trying to cover a deeper, far more serious wound. We need to tear it down and, to quote a campaign slogan, “build back better.” The problem is we won’t. Rob will stay, AD and LBJ will be here, maybe even Russ. Feels like Frank is doing everything he can to make certain he’s fired at this point. Worst season ever by a country mile. The end is, mercifully, nigh.

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    • FIVE THINGS:

      1. Fire Frank
      2. Trade Russ
      3. Extend LeBron
      4. Hire Quin
      5. Win Games

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    1) No D
    2) Guys trying hard
    3) Rest of the league younger, better, etc.
    4) Too many holes to fix in one trade
    5) Ownership still cheap.

    5 Things: ...

    1) No D
    2) Guys trying hard
    3) Rest of the league younger, better, etc.
    4) Too many holes to fix in one trade
    5) Ownership still cheap.

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    • 5 Things to be encouraged about tonight:

      1. AD playing like the best player on the planet
      2. Rested AD ready to repeat bubble performance
      3. Russell Westbrook figuring out how to fit in
      4. Energy from youngsters Monk, Reaves, Johnson, and Gabriel
      5. Scoring from savvy vets Melo and DJ Augustin

    • Lakers sign LeBron to a 2-year extension with player option in second year. That lines his contract up exactly with AD. Last guaranteed year is 2022-23 and player options are 2023-24, when Bronny is draft eligible.

      Lakers will re-sign or trade AD and then use free agency to load up again for an AD led championship run. So Lakers will not have to go through complete rebuild like they did after Kobe because they have AD.

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    5 Things: Lakers free fall continues against Mavs

    Might not see another win the rest of the way at this rate. It’s gotta be hardest for the guys in the locker room that seem like they’re trying. They just lack overall roster talent. Frank threw the entire team at the Mavs except Wayne Ellington. Didn’t matter, game was over from the jump.

    1. No defense. The Lakers have been scoring enough to win basketball games. We just defend like crap. Could we use a better three point shooter? I don’t have that anywhere near the top of my list. It’s like 5th or so after paint defense, rim protection, perimeter defense, better on-ball defense and leadership. Only Houston, Portland and Sacramento give up more Opp. PPG than we do but we’re the 12th best offensive team. If we were even in the middle of the pack on defense we would be a very different team. For those who believe the solution lies in improving the offense we would have to be a top 3 offense in the NBA to overcome the differential our awful defense allows. Not happening now or this summer. Focus on the end with the most problems, AD and LBJ can score the basketball and if they’re not healthy it’s all moot.
    2. Luka looking really good. Dallas is my sleeper/dark horse pick to win it all based on how Luka is playing right now and that all the pieces around him fit well. They’ve improved on defense without giving up much on offense. Kristaps, who was never an intimidating defender despite his size, had too many holes in his game and moving on from him allowed the Mavs to make the game simpler. It’s worked and they look great.
    3. Monk was great. The kid is playing with passion and can do it all. Scores inside and out, makes plays for his teammates and takes care of the basketball. He’s making himself money and there are few scenarios remaining that allow me to see him staying unless he truly over-values the opportunity we’ve given him. More likely is we offer him whatever we can, someone offers more and he walks. Malik helped keep it as close as it was, which was not close at all.
    4. I’d keep DJ as a backup PG next season. Better than whatever option exists now. Could even start since he doesn’t need the ball, in many ways reminds me of D-Fish who would have been as perfect a compliment to LeBron as he was to Kobe. Ball-dominant players don’t need another ball dominant player. Why people keep trying to force that is beyond me. Get a solid backup and call it a day. DJ fits that mold and could maybe even be gotten for cheap.
    5. Hey look, Trevor Ariza. Remember when people were predicting he would be an X-factor? I had hoped he could fill a Rondo-esque role in the playoffs while working his way into shape during the regular season. Turns out all those calls were wrong as we won’t need a Rondo-esque player once the post-season starts without us.

    If it sounds like I’ve given up on this version of the Lakers you would be correct. I don’t see a path forward that reality allows for. AD coming back and fixing everything? Don’t see it. LeBron getting like super-dooper healthy with a couple of days off? Physically impossible. Some combination of trash heap players and the AARP equivalent of pro NBA players getting it done? The current results speak for themselves. Best to, essentially, tank. Reward the teams we bullied into trading with us, pay homage to the basketball Gods in a proper way by not treating preseason like an extended vacation, and show up next season with some fawking pride.

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    5 Things: Nothing left but to wait for the fork

    Done. If you saw what I saw I thought we were done the first game back from the ASB but kept coming back out of a stubborn belief in the purple and gold. Not so much the players currently wearing it but the spirit of what the Lakers are, to me anyway. In the end, like many things in life, faith wasn’t enough for this team to actually accomplish great things on the court. You need luck and, more than that, young players with skills and talent. We ain’t gone none of that. We got problems. Epic problems.

    1. LeBron should shut it down right now. There really is no conceivable reason that he should push it. San Antonio is just as likely to overtake us with or without him playing on one leg and a bad ankle. But if he blows out a knee or an Achilles compensating for his injuries we’re in trouble next season and that’s an avoidable situation now.
    2. No need to activate AD. Same as the above. Why risk anything now that will have an impact on next season? Makes no sense. Take the hit on the chin, realize whatever you did wasn’t enough, stop with the excuses and show up ready to ball in October when camp breaks.
    3. What to do with Russ. Frankly, at this point, I think that all depends on Monk. If we can keep Malik without having to move Russ I think the Lakers run this back again. They’ll have ample excuses as to why it will work now. They’ll have fired Frank, Russ and LeBron have already figured out how to co-exist on a basketball court together, and injuries/bad luck/COVID/blah blah blah/ hampered us this season and lightning can’t strike the same team/players three times…can it? The options seem few and far between. W&Sing him sounds like it’s pretty much off the table based on reports coming out of Laker Land. Trading with the Knicks seems off the table at this point as well which is a bummer as that was a team I thought just might want to actually add Russell. That basically leaves two options:
      -trade Russ and either Reaves or a pick or two for Houston to turn around and buy him out for John Wall (I don’t see them sending us players who can actually contribute)
      -Dame asks to be moved specifically to the Lakers and reminds ownership how much he’s given to the franchise.
      The Wall option to me is a no-go. Watching Klay Thompson play like a shell of himself save for a game or two here and there is all I need but I could easily cobble together a length list of speedy guards who never came close to re-capturing the impact they had prior to an injury like John Wall suffered. We don’t need more old, hobbled or slow. Toss in that we’d be starting all over, again, trying to incorporate three ball-dominant players after the ones we have basically just figured out how to kind of play together and I just don’t see the logic. I can even see letting Monk walk rather than go down the Wall path, honestly. I’d have to give that some serious thought as to which side of the fence I’d want land, though.
    4. Fire Frank? Again, there are a plethora of excuses why they might keep him on. Injuries, bad luck, he started playing the way the analytics told him, he listened to Kurt and also played Dwight more, he won us a banner, and so on. I think his time here has come to an end…but I also didn’t expect the Lakers to cheap out on this season like they have. So now another factor gets introduced: is there such a liquidity problem amongst the Buss kids/Laker ownership that they don’t want to pay 2 coaches? Remember they low-balled 4 other candidates prior to landing on Frank. My gut tells me they’ll still let him go…but I’m far from 100% certain of it at this point. Too many odd, terrible choices have been made in the name of saving some money to be ignored.
    5. The rest of the team. Maybe keep Carmelo? Maybe, maybe keep Dwight? After that burn it down. Trade Nunn, if you can, maybe package him with THT for a player’s exception we can turn around and sign Monk and a real center with. No offense to the player who has the Bone Bruise That Will Not Heal but you need to go. I don’t honestly care what a 2 year old highlight reel shows you used to be able to do, I don’t believe you have heart anymore, that you’re willing to do the work needed to be a winner. So see the door Kendrick, if he opts in. I think he will based on how terribly this has all gone and how little money will be out there. Wenyan…not gonna lie, he shouldn’t be playing on a championship team. Has it been a fuzzy and warm story for this dismal campaign? Sure, and I always root for the under dogs. But we’re not trying to film the NBA version of The Mighty Ducks we’re trying to win. Does anyone really believe that WG is a rotational player on a winning team? I don’t see it. Since we’re likely keeping Stanley Johnson we have already checked the “plays with a high motor but can’t shoot well” box. We should learn from our mistakes of this season, that you need players who can do something other than take up space in order to compete in the NBA. All the aged vet minimums after anyone listed above should not be re-signed, I don’t care how chipper they are in the locker room.

    Bonus point, for me, would be to fire Rob Pelinka who basically orchestrated this poorly run garage sale of an NBA team. I hold him to the fire more than anyone because it’s his job to evaluate and sign the best talent available and we didn’t do that. It’s his job to let the superstars know whey we’re not just going to do whatever they want and we didn’t do that. It’s his job to convince ownership that spending a little more on a player like Alex Caruso, who to be sure would not have been enough to make this season drastically different but when it comes down to a game or two he does swing that needle your way, is totally worth it. Rob failed every test presented to a GM of an elite sport franchise this season and should pay the exact same price Frank Vogel will. He won’t, and he should go to every mural of Kobe and Gigi in Los Angeles and the world beyond and thank them personally. I’m not sure anything other than his relationship with Kobe is saving him, to be honest.

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    • Why Rob Needs To Go:

      2018: Waived Thomas Bryant, who became a productive starter after the Wizards claimed him off waivers. If a young, talented big who can shoot the ball doesn’t fit your plans, why not trade him?
      2018: Revoked future All-Star Julius Randle’s qualifying offer to let him walk as an unrestricted free agent. Randle was the No. 7 pick in 2014.
      2019: Traded Svi Mykhailiuk and a second-round pick to the Pistons for Reggie Bullock, who left as a free agent after the season. Two smaller assets gone to rent the services of a veteran shooter. L.A. didn’t even make a playoff run.
      2019: Traded Ivica Zubac (and Michael Beasley) to the Clippers for Mike Muscala, who left as a free agent after the season. The Lakers wasted another quality draft pick (No. 32 in 2016), gave the Clippers a starter and haven’t had anyone as good at center.
      2020: Traded Danny Green and a first-round pick to get Dennis Schroder, who left as a free agent after the season. It was a significant step as L.A. broke apart its championship defensive identity, and it also threw away a first-rounder.
      2020: Traded JaVale McGee and a second-rounder to the Cavaliers for Alfonzo McKinnie and Jordan Bell (waived immediately) to make salary-cap room for Marc Gasol. After the season, McKinnie was waived, and Gasol was traded with a second-round pick and $250,000 to the Grizzlies. McGee is playing a valuable supporting role for the first-place Suns. Neither Gasol nor McKinnie is in the NBA. That journey cost two second-round picks.
      2021: Traded Kyle Kuzma, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Montrezl Harrell and a first-round pick for Russell Westbrook, which has been covered ad nauseam.

      The above is copied and pasted from a much longer and in-depth article about why we are where we are on the Bleacher Report website. Some of that happened while Magic was GM and Rob was his #2 but the pattern continued regardless.

    • I’m with you 100% that Frank Vogel and Rob Pelinka need to be fired. Problem is who replaces them? Lakers will likely fire Vogel and let Pelinka decide on new coach and offseason moves.

      That in a nutshell is the problem with the Lakers. They have an owner who won’t make the critical basketball decisions that good owners have to make, like what kind of a team do we want to build, what is our vision? Who do we hire to build a team that meets that vision?

      Some things that seem obvious to me at this point:

      1. GO BIG. Lakers need a modern stretch center like Myles Turner or Christian Wood that will allow them to play big or small. We need to be bigger, which means leaving AD at the 4 and LeBron at the 3. Top priority should be to trade for Turner or Wood. Trading chips are THT, KN, and 2027 and 2029 first round draft picks.

      2. STARTING POWER. Lakers need three starters that complement LeBron and AD rather than a third superstar, who makes it difficult to fill out the rest of the starting lineup with enough shooting and defense. Right now, Monk and Reaves would be better fits coming off the bench. Lakers also need two new starters to go with Turner or Wood. Players like Wall and Gordon to go with Wood or Brogdon and Hield to go with Turner.

      3. CONTINUITY. Lakers need continuity and stability, which means we consider bringing back LeBron, AD, Reaves, Monk, Johnson, Gabriel, Melo, DJ, and Dwight. That’s 9 players, giving the Lakers more returning players than any of the last three years. That also leaves 6 roster spots open for new players for whom THT, Nunn, and the picks provide us.

      • I feel your pain Jamie, the thing about that list is, it didn’t even include all of the bone head moves that’s been made. Trading Dlo at the height of his trade value as a salary dump ranks up there as well. And to add insult to injury they didn’t retain Lopez who was willing to stay for 5mil. Then there is the matter of drafting Lonzo over Tatum, the league and Lakers scouting department favorite as best in the draft, only because Magic thought it would be a “great Hollywood story “ one can only imagine what we would have had left if we had Dlo, Randle, Tatum, BI and Kuzma when we traded for AD. We definitely would have had more left and we would be in better shape now. I’m pretty sure Rob is safe which is the same as saying we’re screwed. While I’m sure they will try hard to move Russ, there isn’t many realistic deals out there. I definitely wouldn’t trade for Wall. LeBron will play like LeBron until he hangs it up. You need a PG that can play off the ball and shoot. Dennis couldn’t adjust his game and Russ couldn’t either. Wall would be the same deal. A ball dominate PG that can’t shoot. It’s not a stretch to believe that keeping Russ would be better then trading for Wall. He is more than likely better than Wall is now.

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    5 Things: Lakers tantalize in loss

    Without LeBron I had this stamped, signed sealed and delivered as a loss. Then the game started and I thought we were at least playing the way you want to see a team without it’s best player rally. Then the 76ers shot 371 free throws. Then we came back. Then we lost. Still, it was a lot more entertaining than I thought it would be. Getting late for the Lakers.

    1. Russell’s solid outing. Other than the 7 turnovers and nascent trips to the free throw line (not by his design, mind you) I though Russell had a pretty good game. If he got the Harden treatment he would have gone to the line a few more times. Russ scored when we needed, tried to make the right play and generally played like the player I thought we traded for. It’s been a slog for Russ and he’s endured quite a lot of flack for a season for whom he is not entirely at fault for. But he, too, has his own responsibilities to shoulder for this dumpster fire of a season. It’s games like last night, and his play over the last couple of weeks, that makes me think the Lakers might run the trio back.
    2. Stanley’s stellar start. He faded in the scoring department after the first quarter but SJ came out with a head of steam and got us off the mark in the first quarter. He scored 13 points (which was what he ended with) and took only 2 more shots after the 1st frame but he also had the tough assignment of guarding James Harden, which I thought he did effectively. He also didn’t force his own offense after his hot start with 8 assists to lead the team along with Russ’s ocho. Johnson’s passing and handle have been a revelation to me as he has shown an above-average ability to make productive reads, can get to where he wants to on the floor (although some of that is out of sheer disrespect from the opposition who are playing him to get into the paint and try to score, that will eventually be scouted better).
    3. Dwight can still bring it. This is one of the more personally infuriating plot lines of the season. Dwight gets a start, plays well, sits for 3 games we usually lose. I just don’t get it. If Frank is doing this because the internal analytics team is telling him our offense is SOOOOO much better with Dwight off the floor they don’t understand basketball at a basic level. Is the spacing better? Yeah, I guess, but that’s not the be-all-end-all of a basketball team. Great spacing helps, yes, but so do these funny things called defense, rebounding, setting solid screens and size. So it will, to me at least, be quite ironic if Frank has foregone minutes for Dwight in the name of the over-used, over-referred to, and often flat wrong, theory of how the game should be played based on analytics. Let the big man loose while you still have a prayer Frank, offense isn’t as important enough to sacrifice all of your defense for. That’s the deal with the Devil the Lakers have made with LeBron at the center. Yes, the offense looks wonderful, but the defense sucks and we keep losing. So, while outscoring the opposition is the way to win, you don’t get there focusing on one end and entirely ditching the other.
    4. Free throws. Can’t be ignored. At one point the 76ers were approaching 20 and we were stuck on three. This after Russ got thrown to floor on a driving layup (no call), and Embiid landed on Stanley’s left shoulder which was deemed a rather excellent blocked shot by the official standing roughly 9 feet away. Johnson’s yapping after that one earned him a tech, the other one was gifted to Dwight who complained that he wasn’t afforded the same luxuries on defense (grabbing, pushing, etc.) that Joel was getting. This is a league of reputations, for better or worse, it’s why you need to work extremely hard not to get pigeon-holed in the NBA. Give up big leads, it’ll happen because the other team will smell blood if they can just make a couple of late buckets, breathe on James Harden wrong=foul, create space through bodying up means it’s a really tough call to make. The Lakers are on the wrong end of a lotta reputation issues and it’s not fun to watch. What also can’t be ignored is that they put themselves in those holes by blowing big leads to inferior teams all season long, not playing hard consistently for 48 minutes, and generally acting like an entitled team of destiny and not a team that has to earn it’s way for the first 2/3’s of the season.
    5. Here come the Spurs. I’m not sweating the 9th spot at this point, I’m expecting us to finish 10th…at best…and can easily envision a scenario where we play ourselves right out of the play-in rounds, as well. Don’t believe me? Cool, that’s what I call cognitive dissonance and willfully ignoring reality. Because with a scant 2 games separating us and 9 games to go for both teams we need to win more than we’ve shown ourselves capable of doing. 3 games is our longest winning streak of the season. T-h-r-e-e. The Spurs schedule looks like this:
    Sat, Mar 26@New Orleans
    Mon, Mar 28@Houston
    Wed, Mar 30vsMemphis
    Fri, Apr 1vsPortland
    Sun, Apr 3vsPortland
    Tue, Apr 5@Denver
    Thu, Apr 7@Minnesota
    Sat, Apr 9vsGolden State
    Sun, Apr 10@Dallas
    and ours looks like:
    Sun, Mar 27@New Orleans
    Tue, Mar 29@Dallas
    Thu, Mar 31@Utah
    Fri, Apr 1vsNew Orleans
    Sun, Apr 3vsDenver
    Tue, Apr 5@Phoenix
    Thu, Apr 7@Golden State
    Fri, Apr 8vsOklahoma City
    Sun, Apr 10@Denver

    So feel free to dismiss the reality that we are facing being eliminated from the playin round. The tie-breaker will be decided by the team with the better in-division record, I believe, since we split the games between our two teams this season. We’re behind on that score, as well, and we’re facing pretty tough in-division opponents from here on out.

    Anyhow, they’re all “must-win” from here on out and frankly that was the case after the All Star break. But, in a fashion typical for this team, we’ve continually squandered each and every possibility to make this season easier and so here we are: just likely to be the 10th seed as the 9th and facing a complete and utter collapse. Miss the playoffs with LeBron, AD, and Russ? To me that signals a total tear down, re-evaluation of our talent assessment (like who decided THT over Caruso) and so on. What it’ll signal to Jeannie is anyone’s guess.

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    • I liked how the Lakers responded without LeBron, especially that they played the same game as they played with him and almost won. Fewer turnovers by Russ, fewer free throws for Sixers, and hit a couple more threes and we would have had a win.

      At any rate, this is another win in my book because we showed consistency in how hard and how we play. Dwight was great and could be important because we don’t have anyone who can do what he can other than AD. Russ needs to be more careful but I like how he continues to post up his man to beat the paint packers. Great game by Stanley, who walked his earlier talk.

      Important point to me is there are lots of players who should be back next season. LeBron, AD, Reaves are under contract. Lakers should give Gabriel 2 year deal with team option like Johnson. Both should be back on those team options.

      Monk must return, even if we have to hard cap ourselves to pay him $10M per year. Hell, I’d bring back JR too. So how many is that?

      James, Davis, Reaves.
      Monk, Johnson, Gabriel
      Anthony, Augustin, Dwight?

      That’s 9 returning players.

      Gone are Russ, Bazemore, Ariza, THT, Nunn, Bradley, Ellington

      That’s 6 open roster spots to be filled via trading Russ, THT, and Nunn.

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    If I’ve learned anything about this team we have a slim to none chance of winning most nights and with The King resting his knee tonight Slim just left the building.

    San Antonio has a punchers chance of over-taking us in the standings. 3 games back with a far easier schedule.

    LeBron out

    If I’ve learned anything about this team we have a slim to none chance of winning most nights and with The King resting his knee tonight Slim just left the building.

    San Antonio has a punchers chance of over-taking us in the standings. 3 games back with a far easier schedule.

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    • So much for seeing how we handle Embiid without AD and LeBron.

    • Damn…no Jah vs Kyrie, no LeBron vs Embiid, no Steph vs Jimmy. Guess I’ll watch Jazz/Celts and Suns/Wolves instead. Spurs can pull to 2 games back in the loss column tonight….not sure who holds the tie-breaker.

    • Lakers points allowed last 10 games is 122.9 ppg. Lakers last 10 games we scored 118.3. LeBron accounts for a good 1/4 – 1/3 of that output on a nightly basis. Dwight for 50!!!!

    • This almost seems like more of a strategic rather than injury related decision. Better to not play Lebron at the five against Embiid. We’re locked in at #9 so smart move by Lakers. Deal with 76ers when we have both AD and LeBron.

      • We are in no way, shape, or form locked into the 9 spot….lol

        • We’re not locked into jack. 3 games back with 10 to go and San Antonio has a MUCH easier strength of schedule as they play Portland 3 times, Houston once and teams that are likely to be resting starters for playoff runs late. We have the exact opposite. That’s why I won’t be too blown away if we miss the playin based on how this team shows up on a nightly basis which is to say they arrive at the arena.

    • We’re pretty much locked up in the Play-In.
      10 games to go.
      Lakers playing better.
      4 games behind #8
      3 games ahead of #11
      We’re going to finish #9 or #10.
      Only difference is home or away game.

      • I think this is a smart move to get LeBron a full week off for the knee to recover. Need as much load management as possible so LeBron and AD will be fully healthy and rested for the playoffs.

    • I also think the Lakers may look for other opportunities to rest LeBron before end of year. We need a healthy and RESTED LeBron and AD to win. Let’s prioritize that.

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    Is there a world where AD and Nunn coming back elevates this team to a more competitive level on both ends? Gone would be WG’s minutes, for the most part. Less of Bradley and Reaves, one assumes…maybe even less Russ in critical situations?

    Defense would improve as AD would become the starting 5 allowing LeBron to be a help/weakside defender as energy allowed him to be.

    Three point shooting would improve, hopefully, with Nunn.

    Rust would be a factor for both players but once that got resolved they’d have plenty of gas in the tank.

    Since they’re not playing it’s all dream weaving and hogwash, though, so until they suit up this is where we’re at…

    Letting myself dream a bit

    Is there a world where AD and Nunn coming back elevates this team to a more competitive level on both ends? Gone would be WG’s minutes, for the most part. Less of Bradley and Reaves, one assumes…maybe even less Russ in critical situations?

    Defense would improve as AD would become the starting 5 allowing LeBron to be a help/weakside defender as energy allowed him to be.

    Three point shooting would improve, hopefully, with Nunn.

    Rust would be a factor for both players but once that got resolved they’d have plenty of gas in the tank.

    Since they’re not playing it’s all dream weaving and hogwash, though, so until they suit up this is where we’re at…

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    • I’ve done the exact same thing and there is something there that could turn positive for us. Probably not enough to go all the way but you never know. If we could survive the play-in and take down the Suns in the first round, who’s to say we couldn’t go all the way. Would need to stay healthy but we’re due on that end.

      Can’t hurt to have a little hope. And I do think it’s important for the team to continue to fight. We need to win to stay in the play-in tourney. Let’s put those teams who don’t want to face us in a 7-game series on notice to start worrying.

    • Here’s another way of looking at how AD and Nunn could change things if Vogel narrows the rotation to just 9-10 players going into the playoffs.

      The big question is who falls out of the rotation when and if Davis and Nunn return? The answer to me is THT and Bradley. That’s who should become ICOEBG except for Frank Vogel’s distorted opinions.

      Here is my 9-man rotation with a little Dwight when needed:

      PG – Westbrook
      SG – Monk
      SF – Reaves
      PF – James
      CE – Davis

      RPG – Nunn
      RSG – Johnson
      RSF – Gabriel
      RPF – Anthony
      RCE – Howard

      BU1 – Augustin
      BU2 – Bradley
      BU3 – THT
      BU4 – Ellington
      BU5 – Ariza

      Cut – Bazemore

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    5 Things: Lakers sloppy defense fuels loss

    In another game where LeBron attained a lofty place in NBA history the Lakers made it a point to play like crap. They came out hot on offense but managed one quarter of decent defense (the first) before getting lazy with their rotations, inept with their footwork and none of it was helped by Vogel choosing to guard 7’3″ Kristaps Porzingis with the likes of Bradley, Westbrook and other small players. Thus, despite LeBron moving to second on the All Time scoring list the Lakers fell to 30-41 with a meager .5 game lead over the Pelicans.

    1. LeBron is number two. It’s an amazing accomplishment over-shadowed only by how utterly awful the Lakers have played in all but a handful of games. Accumulating that many points in the NBA requires, luck, skill, durability, great teammates, and above all dedication. Honestly, just about everything the Lakers a re seemingly lacking in this season. Still, for a half it looked like the Lakers might do right by LeBron and make it a winning affair. James, if he plays another 2 seasons of relatively healthy basketball, will surely pass The Captain and occupy the number 1 spot all by himself. While the impact of the three point shot, the fact LeBron came out of high school, and that he was always a featured player in every season he played all played a part in LeBron getting to this point it’s indisputable that LeBron has put in the work and dedication to his craft required to get to this level.
    2. Westbrook’s great night. It occurred to me that we may have just watched one of the last great shooting nights of Russell’s career. Never a highly efficient scorer Russ was on fire from all over last night. So much so that I was hoping Russ would have been a little more aggressive looking for his own shot later in the game. While that didn’t happen Russ still had a great follow up to his game-saving antics the night before.
    3. THT’s not so great game. Another donut for Talen who really looks lost to me this season. Making terrible reads on defense, not attacking the basket like we know he’s capable of doing, and generally playing like a guy who didn’t deserve a raise last summer. If there ever was a debate as to if the Lakers chose the wrong player betwixt Talen and Alex (for me there never was, I’d have gone Caruso in every scenario imaginable) one would imagine this season of mediocre play, regression and general malaise from a young player who hasn’t done much would be enough.
    4. Refs an easy excuse but faulty. The issue was more with our general lack of defensive intensity and poor match ups. We also got lazy on offense in the 4th when LeBron ran outta gas. I wish the team and/or the coaches were as good at recognizing when LeBron has hit a wall as I seem to be. When he does hit that wall we need him to go into decoy, off-ball mode not 35′ three point hero ball mode. Monk didn’t get many late looks, we generally just went to the LeBron/Melo two-man game that lives on the perimeter. Need to do better. If you don’t attack the defense you don’t get to the line. Was there a rather large difference between the free throws awarded to each team? Yes, but there was a legit reason why. I counted 5 free throws I thought we should have been awarded, mostly in the first half except for one Westbrook drive. That’s not enough for the game to swing our way. Wizards were the aggressor, credit goes to them.
    5. Missing the playoffs has become a real outcome for this season. San Antonio is 3 games back and could knock us out of the playoffs. We play New Orleans twice in the next couple weeks and with 11 games back and our post ASB winning percentage being what it is and the general lack of interest the Lakers have shown regarding competing for 48 minutes I can quite easily envision a world where we lose all but one or two games going forward and San Antonio sneaks past. If that happens nobody, and I mean nobody, with a meaningful job title should be around next season. Our talent evaluation other lan late round draft picks is garbage, the front office is run by the superstars and the coach defaults to them, as well. In short this team is an utter mess and frankly deserves to miss the playoffs the way they play on most nights. After deriding the playin last season LeBron will be counting his lucky-ass stars that it exists now because otherwise they wouldn’t have a hope of sniffing the playoffs. That could still happen.

    Another game Monday against Cleveland, not sure which version of the Lakers will show up and honestly I don’t think it matters anymore. this team can’t sustain effort for 48 minutes which means they’ll be done no later than the 1st round. Davis coming back or Nunn “lighting it up” in practice means nothing now. Too little, too late. The habits we laughed off as “it’s just one game!” months ago are now the habits that will lead this team to become possibly the most disappointing Laker team every assembled.

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    • Nice Post Jamie, coaching is as big a problem for this team as the players themselves. Frank talked about the 4th quarter defense and how our switching scheme had worked earlier. But it stopped working and that’s where you make adjustments. The Wiz were seeking out switches to land a guard on Porzingas. The Lakers should have countered with Dwight and played him straight up, with no switching. Dwight can guard Porzingas even out at the 3 point line because he doesn’t posses the quickness to blow by Dwight, and Dwight can body him out of his spots. If not Dwight at least Gabriel who is athletic, 6’ 9” with a 7’ 1” wingspan. Instead Lebrons on him for a second until we switched a guard on him. As for offense, we saw what we had been seeing in the 1st except we saw it in the 4th. A LeBron centric offense with a tired LeBron. As for Monk, he got one shot in the 4th, that made 3. The guy is a gifted scorer and is completely underutilized. As for THT, he has been in and out of the line up with that ankle sprain. They really should have just rested him until it healed. No use playing a guy that can only go like 60% especially a guy with TaHT’s game that realized on attacking the paint.

    • I have to agree with Michael that it was Vogel and the coaches as much as the players who lost this game. Not playing Dwight or making adjustments to double Porzingis was inexcusable.

      Lakers are making a big mistake by not having fired Vogel and given one of the assistants the opportunity to show what impact a new coach could have had. Vogel is burning any bridges he had to potentially keep his job. Jeanie should have fired him right after the game

      Imagine if we had Kyle Lowry on the roster last summer instead of THT. There would not have been any Westbrook trade. This is one situation where I blame Klutch for likely not wanting to include Talen, which was a major Pelinka mistake.

      Could Russ improving play make a difference? I still have some hope there, as well as like Jamie, with AD and Nunn helping. We’re now in one of those situations where it’s not a case of us turning it around. LOL. 9o It’s more like rising from the dead.

      Guess Frank never heard of a defense that switches every position but center. Man, how dumb can Vogel be. It is like he’s deliberately trying to sabotage the Lakers.

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    5 Things: Lakers win for 3rd time since ASB

    For a game at least the slide slowed. Frank got the absolute most one can expect out of journeyman Wenyan Gabriel who hit all three of his 3 pointers, 7-8 shots overall, and brought some desperately needed size. Also returning to the starting five was one Dwight Howard who played 24 minutes and brought support in the form of defending the paint and boxing out. The game ball would have to go to the beleaguered Russell Westbrook who sent the game into OT with a clutch steal and three pointer.

    1. Westbrook staying the course. It’s easy to give up, especially for fans who have little to no impact on the outcome of things. For a pro athlete there can’t be any quit, though. If there is that means you have entered the “toast” phase of your career as a player. Russ has withered a lot of criticism from inside and outside the NBA. From professional chump Patrick Beverley to ex-champ Kendrick Perkins to 88,265 media heads and most of the Laker fanbase Russ has heard it all season long. He got a little of that back last night with a needed (for all parties involved) triple-double and a solid game overall.
    2. 20 points away. LeBron is about to become the second greatest point scorer in NBA history. That from a guy with a ‘pass-first’ mentality. It’s astounding to me the numbers this man has accumulated, creating the one-man statistical category of the triple 10,000, and he’s brought home the hardware to validate all of it in the form of ring;s trophies and other accolades. James has another solid game and we won without him scoring 50 breaking therealhtj’s prophecy of “we’ll win if LeBron scores 50 (although it did last for far too many games, lol). Had LeBron gotten to 50 he would be on the cusp of passing Karl Malone and occupy the #2 all time scoring leader spot.
    3. Wenyan’s big game. I’m not going to lie, I consider this game of Wenyan’s to be an anomaly. The big man from Sudan tied his career high with 17 points and 9 rebounds. We needed every single stat he brought, though, and if…somehow-some way…he can keep up this level of production up to some degree or another it’ll help the Lakers a lot. 6 teams in 3 seasons can be seen two ways” a prospect who needs time and/or a defined role to develop or a player tossed in because the $$$ works and who knows maybe something can come of it. Well kid, here’s your chance to make the most of a rough start to your career.
    4. Avery Bradley re-asserting himself. These games a re coming fewer and farther between, at least on offense. AB is one of our better by percentage three point shooters but he’s been in and out of the lineup since just before the ASB. If he’s back and healthy it means Frank has a good teo-way option that I think should come off the bench. Along with Reaves it gives us some defense and shooting in the second unit which we desperately need. Russ usually plays longer into the 1st quarter so having a secondary ball handler who can run an offense and hit shots helps give Russ a tool to use. Nice to see AB make some great plays on defense and he should have gotten that charging call that was a block.
    5. Stick with Dwight. I thought from the beginning that Dwight should have been our starting center. That going to LeBron at the five is a weapon to be deployed strategically and not to be overly-relied upon. We get killed on the glass every game LeBron spends the majority of his minutes at the 5. Yes, LeBron had 2 game-saving blocks last night but overall for the majority of the game we are a team that is vulnerable in the paint. We need somebody with size, defensive and rebounding acumen to help LeBron out and man the paint. That isn’t Carmelo Anthony, either, who has done well this season on defense given his rep. Well is not what Dwight brings, especially when healthy and motivated. We may have helped him lose focus by not being clear and honest about his role, for sitting him for games on end. The man has pride and plays best when he’s playing for it. It’s another reason I think Frank won’t have a job after the season in that I am of the opinion we mismanaged Howard all season long.

    Need to keep it rolling tonight. We simply can’t afford to win one game and then lose 3 or more after that because…who knows why. If you’re not ready to play hard, do everyone a favor and don’t play. LeBron is leaving it all out there, every night, do him the courtesy of putting forth the same effort and focus.

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    • Great fiver, Jamie. Nice to have a win to talk about.

      1. Man, I’m happy for Russ, to make that steal and then hit that three. Wow, Russ probably got the best night of sleep since he was traded to the Lakers. I’m hoping it will be a huge relief that will trigger a streak of these games to finish the year and give the Lakers a glimmer of hope heading into the play-in tourney.

      2. LeBron’s not 100%. At times, his frustration shows. But he keeps on chugging and the Lakers can only go as far as he carries them. We don’t win this game without LeBron’s great play off the ball and protecting the rim.

      3. Wenyen for real or not? He may not be the solution to the Lakers starting small forward but what a pleasure seeing a 6′ 8″ player with hops and athleticism playing the three for the Lakers. What Gabriel shows is how good we could be if he had size a the three. If anything to me, it reinforces the idea that we should throw our two picks and pieces to Detroit to get Jerami Grant. Not that I wouldn’t sign Wenyen for the same deal as Stanley, who also had a great game with 5 assists.

      4. Apologies to Avery, whom I’ve demoted, cut, and sliced into a million pieces during his Lakers tenure. Game ball for closing the game when we needed it. I’ve never been a huge fan of Avery’s ‘active’ defense as I think he just gets fouls and beaten off the dribble but I’ve always respected his willingness to shoot the three when passed the ball. He was lethal last night and hit the game winners.

      5. Dwight must start until AD returns. Part of our battle to win games has been the uphill battle on the boards and scoring in the paint because our micro lineups are tooooooooo smaaaalll. There’s no bigger small ball fan on this site than me but it’s small balll on steroids that I like, it’s offense based on spreading the floor, shooting threes, and attacking the rim to get dunks and fouls. Putting LeBron at the 5 with 4 guards is micro ball and can only work in certain situations. Lakers need size. Gabriel’s performance is a plus for him but just proof of how the lack of a legitimate starting small forward bigger than 6′ 5″ has killed the Lakers.

      The Westbrook Curse was broken last night. We’re going to see a Lakers team that used tdo be snake-bitten and expecting the worse to happen transform back into a confident, hungry unit that will start winning 3 out of 4 the rest of the way. At least, that’s whatI’m hoping and what logic tells us we should ezpect.

      • Yeah I’m not saying anything other than one decent game happened last night. It’s not the Westbrook Curse but rather the Folly of the Front Office in constructing an old, slow, small team. It’s all uphill from here on out and has been since before the All Star break. Quality of opponents is high, skill and talent level of our team is low. One win changes nothing at this point just means we were able to come together better than most nights.

    • Thanks Buba, I think we have under-used and mishandled Dwight all season long. While not the be-all-end-all of our issues you need to dial his number when there’s anyone bigger then 6’9″ at the 5. Small on small, fine, then we can get by w/o Howard. Let the big man loose.

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    Here we are again, losing to a better team. That’s right, a LeBron James-led Laker squad isn’t as good as the Minnesota Timberwolves. They’re better in literally every facet of the game except, maybe, post-game attire. Other than that, we’re a team in free fall and they’re a team on the rise. I’m sick of this; I just wish the Lakers were, too.

    1. LeBron’s 20+ point streak ends. After another subpar shooting game (8-21, 1-8 from three and 23-5 from the free throw line) ended one of the more entertaining and frankly competitive things about this team came to an end last night. James had another gassed game and the Lakers losing ways unless the King scores 50+ kept on rolling. We’re 2-9 since the All Star break and those 2 wins coincide with James scoring 50. Therealhtj’s prophecy has held true so far.
    2. Russ getting dissed. From “I can’t let the fans besmirch my name!” to “I don’t care what KAT and Pat-Bev say!” Westbrook isn’t finding any of the respect he so obviously craves. Here’s an idea: play better.
    3. Beat down on the glass. We got our clocks cleaned in the rebounding dept. Dwight Howard, in a whopping 16 minutes, led the team with 6 boards. Disgraceful. The small ball the Lakers play is pathetic fool’s gold.
    4. Too many threes when we couldn’t hit them. The Lakers went back to some of the older players last night, like Ellington and Bradley. Didn’t matter as we couldn’t hit a three to save our life.
    5. Failing at NBA 101 type stuff. We can’t do anything right at this point. We forced 2 more turnovers but lost the points off of turnovers battle by 6 (17 to 11), we don’t box out or go hard for rebounds, and we miss a lotta free throws. vAll opf this made for the second wire-to-wire loss in as many games.

    I don’t think this team even deserves to back into the playoffs at this point. We’re awful, play without pride and can’t execute basic basketball fundamentals. It’s pathetic.

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    • At the rate their playing, we won’t have to worry about that. Fire the coach, bench Russ, do anything to learn something to help for next season. Don’t just waste the last few games.

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    And so it goes. We’re just plain bad.

    Sheeesh…

    And so it goes. We’re just plain bad.

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    5 Things: Lakers continue freefall

    Not sure why I keep tuning in to watch the never ending train wreck that is this season. Frankly I ran out of adjectives that express dismay and disappointment awhile ago. Phrases like “bad joke” and “poorly assembled” now fail short. The outcome was never in question as the Raptors won wire-to-wire.

    1. Small ball can’t clean the glass. Nor does it dissuade points in the paint. James can’t do it all so if we want to get the most outta him at the 5 down the stretch of games we need an infusion of talented size.
    2. Waiver wires are trying. It’s not lost on me that the guys who have a lot of NBA experience that weeent picked up off the waiver wire at some point aren’t playing. Melo is the only one getting consistent minutes. The rest barely crack the garbage time rotation. Bradley, Johnson and the 2 ways all get bigger roles over the more “talented” or “experienced” players.
    3. Don’t bother rushing AD back. Just don’t see it mattering much given the way the team performs on a nightly basis. Get right for next season.
    4. What’s worse, losing to NOLA or Portland or the ghost of the San Antonio Spurs or falling all the way out of the playin. Might as well go full tumble and and give NOLA a sort of thank you tip for the AD trade.
    5. I dunno. THT has a nice-ish game so I guess we’ll see something bad from him in the next one since he is still incapable of sustaining decent play?

    Anyhow, this team isn’t going to fight it’s way into anything. They haven’t enough fight in them. LeBron is going full Quixote trying to save the world alone, Russ is going full Van Exel (1-2-3 CANCUN!) and the rest just don’t have it in ‘em. AD is like Lieutenant Dan out of Forrest Gump thinking he’s the one saving something when it’s him that needs the saving. Love the franchise but have pretty much come to find this team unwatchable.

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    • The question that still remains unanswered to me is why this team is in such freefall. We know about the injuries to LeBron, AD, and other key players, how LeBron, AD, and Russ just do not fit well, and the galling unforgiveable lack of size on the roster. But a team with LeBron James has never been this bad.

      This team simply has no identity, no chemistry, no continuity, and no size. The coaching has been negligent, the lineups ludicrous, and excuses more nonsensical after each loss. Frank Vogel has lost this team and the players as a collective have thrown in the towel. All that remains is for the Lakers to wave the white flag.

      It’s stupid for the Lakers to not fire Frank Vogel right now. It’s the one thing the front office can do that’s not going to affect the team long term and will give us a chance to isolate how much of a problem the coach was in this situation. Let Fizdale or Handy see if he can get the team to win some games. Let’s see if the team responds to a new voice. They obviously can’t hear Frank.

      Only reason Lakers are not firing Frank is the crazy hope that AD will solve everything when he comes back. Lakers just refuse to let that pipe dream die. Not many more optimistic than me but even I’ve buried that dream.

      Time now to get information to help make decisions going forward. Let take Frank out of the equation. Let’s start Gabriel over Johnson. We need size. We won with small-ball-on-steroids with AD, LeBron, and Markieff. Playing LeBron, Stanley, and Austin is not the same thing. That’s not even small ball. It’s micro-ball. Problem is we don’t have the horses to play big or small. Let’s not waste the last 16 games of this season.

      • You touched on the coach being the issue but its’s your second point that is more salient. This roster was constructed so incredibly badly I think it’s amazing it’s done as well as it has. I actually don’t think Frank has lost the team, it’s just a really really really really really bad team. Once we got scouted and Russ didn’t change that was it. It’s not like Russ not changing is on Frank, either. Westbrook isn’t changing for anyone now, in the past or on down the line. We play a starting 5 of a rookie, a guy who started one game prior to this season, a waiver wire pickup, James and Westbrook. That’s because everyone else has shown us they can’t defend or score reliably. We’re playing our best players. Frank is to blame for much but definitely not all. The only reason, though, that I think Frank is still around was that he won is a banner. They’re letting him try. Either way, Jesus couldn’t get more out of this team. It’s a crappy team built by ridiculous analytics and not smarts or trust in past accomplishments.

        • It’s probably around 50/50 between Frank and Rob.
          Definitely not a good job by either. No synergy.
          They actually did not work together well at all this year.

    • Yeah I keep watching, too, hoping something can jolt the team out of this funk.

    • Firing Frank is the only thing that would get their attention at this point in time.

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    5 Things: Lakers routed

    Still in New York so turning the game off after the 1st quarter was a no-brained. Watched the Adam Project on Netflix instead and it’s a humorous action-filled romp.

    1. AD needs to zip it if he can’t play. Don’t throw fuel in the fire, don’t diss the best team in the Association when yours might not make the playin, just stick to your rehab. Also, this year’s team sucks compared to last year’s team so stop living in the past.
    2. LeBron in a place unto himself. The triple 10K club. Ridiculous, words fall short. It’s like if they put another President’s head on top of the ones already on Mt. Rushmore. Congrats and sorry it came in an embarrassing defeat.
    3. THT 3 years away. The kid will be solid, maybe even pretty good. He’s three years out, minimum, from being consistent on both ends.
    4. Russ has officially checked out. He shows up, stands around, and isn’t impacting jack. I never thought I’d see Russ play half-heartedly, that his inner fire was his greatest trait. Like George Harrison said: all things must pass.
    5. A tale of two teams. Anyone still think the Suns or Heat are pretenders? Both were the 2nd best team the last 2 seasons, both are super deep, and both have a perfect blend of youth and vets, inside power/outside marksmanship and both are leading their division. I remember hearing after we beat Miami that they weren’t really that good, that after the Suns knocked us out last season that they weren’t really that good and yet here they both are: gelling when you want to and ramping up for the real season in a way that Lakers fans should recognize with ease. They’re for real and will be after this season no matter how it ends. Us? We’re a joke team and a bad one at that.

    I’ll be back in Cali on Wednesday. Hoping we hold onto the 9 seed until then, it so sure we will given the state of the team. If AD can’t get back it’s over and done so basically I guess I’m just hoping LeBron doesn’t get hurt at this point because all the talk of “well if AD can come back” is just fluffy BS. We’re not a team, we’re a collection of semi-talented basketball players. A 1/5 of our main rotation are waiver wire pickups which says a lot about last summer and how poorly it ended up. This has become quite sad to watch because James is playing out of his mind and it’s all going to be for naught except for the final stats he accumulates. I’m disgusted with the leadership up top, incredulous at the choices our coach makes and disappointed in the effort from every veteran player not named LeBron James.

    Go Lakers.

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