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If youre wondering why we’re auditioning re-tread centers from yesteryear its because the Lakers are being prudent worry-warts.
Look up stress reactions in the foot, specifically the one AD has currently. Generally caused by running and jumping. So, while yes, of course, its exciting to think AD coukd play again by the end of the month the Lakers will quite likely limit his in-game minutes and activity. This would be prudent because if it flares up they need to perform surgery to fix the bone and that’s his season right there.
Given everything the Lakers are being smart. They, unlike many fans who seem giddy that AD’s return means his injury issues are behind him, know this has a good chance to be a short return. Or not, I inderstand hoping against the i jury rep because the flip side ain’t pretty. That’s a street with 2 potential directions. One really positive, the other notsomuch.
As to why they would choose Leonard or Cousins over a younger, more athletic player, the answer is “because that’s who The King asked for”. James and Cousins have been linked as wanting to play with each for awhile and the Bubble season doesn’t count because Cosuins didn’t really play. Leonard, out of the league due to injuries and anti-semetic comments made playing Call of Duty, has basically the same skillset. They want to replicate Bryant and AD’s pick and pop skill set up and down the roster.
Anyhow, that’s my take on this scenario.
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Great post Jamie. The whole trade Russ faction is missing an important element. Even if the Lakers want to trade Russ, we so few seller and too many buyers, teams are not going to just dump good players for 2 future picks that may or may not be valuable in 5 to 7 years. They are going to look for packages that help them build in the next couple of years. Honestly that’s going to make it harder to land any quality player in any trade. At least not until the last couple of days before the trade deadline. Which is in a way good for the Lakers. With the way we have been playing I would like to see what this squad can do if we are ever healthy again. That will go a long way in deciding what we should do this summer.
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You make an important point, which has been a major point behind the front office’s hesitancy to invest in this team. For much of this season, the team has underperformed for a variety of reasons, including poor roster construction from the front office. They’ve lost games they should have won and played poorly even when healthy.
While there were promising signs from AD before the injury and LeBron after AD’s injury, the team was still losing and falling further behind. AD playing like MVP. LeBron still dominating. Now we can add, Schroder to Bryant and Reaves and Walker at times. This was the Dennis Schroder who led Germany to the wins in the Euro games. Not the Schroder from 2021.
It’s taken time but the team is suddenly getting better. They’ve been persistent all season long but finally they’re breaking through. The vibe is different too. Rather than coming out and giving a good effort, this team came out to do their part and get a win. That should be what the front office has been waiting for.
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See I think that they’ll use this as reasons why NOT to make a major, or really any, move. They’ll point to all the vet min guys and say how they’re over-performing their value, that all we need is AD, LBJ and Russ to play to form and this team is legit. They’ve basically constructed a no trade wall around this season, for some reason, and it doesn’t feel like that’s changing.
Take the very reasonable idea of trading LW4 for someone that is either under contract or won’t command the salary he might next season. Nothing wacky or crazy about that. If the Lakers want to keep Thomas Bryant and Reaves it’s unlikely they’ll be able to afford LW4. Not impossible but unlikely. Will Rob make a move or just another useful asset walk for nothing?
If he performs to type nothing will happen this season. Has yet to make an in-season trade and all signs are pointing more and more to staying as-is.
Who knows, though, something crazy could come down the pike and Rob could (finally) make a move but I’m not really holding my breath for that to happen.
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Well, we both have our schticks and are sticking to them. You’ve been right so far in that the Lakers are doing everything they can to avoid making a trade. We’ll get the answer by February 9th.
I think the way LeBron and AD have been playing and how wide open the West is and how much better the team is playing makes it near impossible for the Lakers not to trade at least one of the picks to get more size, shooting, and defense.
Frankly, any smart front office would immediately push all of their chips into the middle with the Lakers hand. They don’t need a third star, just four or five better fitting players.
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1) Nice to see JTA get some run and have an impact. Slippery off the free throw line and it kept us in a game we had no business winning.
2) Patrick Beverley can’t run a fastbreak, isn’t looking to shoot and is decent at D. Sounds like a backup guard to me.
3) Reaves and LW4 May have experienced too much after hours Miami culture by the look of it. Neither had any energy in the game and Austin’s 4 TO’s were all pretty sloppy and silly.
4) LBJ and AD won’t be exercising their player options at this point. They’ll find greener pastures.
5) I gave up on this front office awhile ago. I just don’t think they can get past their own internal issues to come to a consensus as to what the right way forward is. Deer in the headlights. Not sure what it will take. Won’t be surprised to hear of a Jeannie/LBJ sit down at some point this season. Can anything get them to do something? Open roster spot with players like Melo and Cousins still out there…do nothing. AD and LBJ show they can, for the most part, play at a high level. Sure AD can’t stay on the floor and defense is an after thought for LeBron but if they had some solid players around them they’d be better. Problem is everyone wants those guys and our FO can’t tell it’s ass from its elbow. -
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1) Without AD the team may as well just focus on offense, we won’t defend well enough without him anchoring the paint and protecting the rim to have a chance in most games.
2-Does Kendrick Nunn even want to play? In garbage time he just walked around and shot the ball.
3-Great game by PatBev who got a rep tech early. Just keep taking the open looks and don’t overthink it.
4-Thomas Bryant might move AD to the 4 when he comes back lol. Dude is balling and is at the top of my “keep” lost next to Reaves.
5-Just not getting much outta Dennis. What’s it gonna take to start Reaves?! Id almost rather see Nunn in those minutes at this point. Almost, but not quite there, yet.Anyhow, any win is a good win. Gotta try and build off it even if it’s a game we “should” have won. Never put much stock int the whole “should have” thing. It’s not like we’re world beaters so this team really can’t afford to play down, not compete for 48, or concede games. We’re trying to claw outta the grave not sitting pretty high in the standings.
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Turner and Pacers discussing terms of a contract extension which has made the most sense for all parties except Laker Trade Fans all along. Barring a fleece of LA for our FRPs Indy would be foolish to let Turner walk. Said as much months ago, was largely ignored. Such is the life of an intelligent, prescient negative Lakers fan lol
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1) No D.
2) Offense looks fine
3) Enjoy this end of 2022 with the team as is, Rob and Co. don’t want to make a trade. They’ll wait until AD comes back, plays for 10 games or whatever self-imposed obstacle they want to construct and I
still think they’ll ride this out as-is, maybe trade PatBev and Nunn. Even that’s starting to feel remote.
4) Why can’t the Lakers run a fast break? I’ve seen this a few times where the whole team tries to fill the lane. Silly.
5) Rob should be fired, won’t be.Be safe, you’re no less of a fan if you choose not to fully participate in this debacle of an NBA season. I may or may not ruin my holiday by watching the Lakers on the road vs. Dallas. Another 5 game roadie, hope they go 2-3, but it’s more likely they go 1-4. So enjoy this time with friends and family. Whatever is left of this iteration of the Lakers will be waiting for you on the other side in 2023.
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17 years ago Kobe outscored Dallas through 3 quarters 62-61 and the Lakers won going away. Sure could use some of that Mamba Magic now, Kobe. Miss that dude.
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1) C’mon PatBev…grow up and focus all that energy on just making layups, dude.
2) How long is too long to wait for AD? A month? Two? Two takes us basically up to the trading deadline and the feeling I get is that’s a month too long. FO is, of course, hoping LeBron and the Nobodies can “hold down the fort” until Davis returns…which has no timetable at this time.
3) Should he come back who is truly confident he’ll last more than a week or three? I am not. Three seasons marred by injury and his best season came with a three month break and no playoff travelling. There’s a smart time to sell and a dumb time to sell, which would mean basically paying to trade AD (which may be what the FO has wanted to have those picks for all along…). Get what you can once the severity of the injury is released, if you’re going all in this season it’s on LeBron, AD cannot be counted on. It’s really just as simple as that.
4) Will the Lakers get fined like Brooklyn did for resting basically the whole team? Concession losses like this always piss me off. Several thousand fans just got jilted at the arena, some likely attending the one game they will go to all year, maybe for a couple years. Also, why are just conceding losses like this? We ain’t even in the playin…
5) This season already had the smallest window possible for title contention. While technically not closed it’s really just a faint draft of a chance now. Who is a keeper from this season because if it’s just another whole new team again next year this franchise is a total joke. And a bad one at that. Lakers would do well to figure out sooner than later who they want to return and play for us next season so they can make the correct moves to free up spending money. If they believe AD can play a whole season…what’s that Dubya quote…”Fool me once, shame on me, fool me twice, heh, won’t get fooled again.” Lakers been fooled for three straight season by promise of health but, like many NBA players and there is no shame in this, AD’s body just can’t stand up to the normal 82 game grind. Neither could Greg Oden, Brandon Roy, Andrew Bynum after his own freak injuries and many, many others. AD and AB17 at least have rings to show for their hard work.Sad state of affairs for LeBron to chase history as a backdrop but them’s the breaks.
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I understood resting LeBron and Russ at first, until I heard that Booker had injuried himself in the last game and was out. Without AD the Suns was a loss, but without Booker we might have had a shot, even though Austin is legitimately injured. One thing I did like was the game Dennis had. He’s much better like Westbrook when he gets to run the show. That’s why the Lakers were so stupid trading for both of them and expecting them to be themselves when paired with LeBron. LeBron is going to be LeBron until he hangs them up. They are the wrong type of guards to pair with him.
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Thanks Buba, one of the biggest issues I have with the current Laker FO is that they tend to under-value role-players who can play well next to the stars currently on the team. It’s obvious a lot of the people making decisions don’t have respect for the hard work those kind of players put in and can contribute to a team culture. Which is weird because that was basically Kurt Rambis’ whole career…
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Up until he was injured a lot it was always a point of pride that Kobe played, at least a little. If the Lakers want to concede games, that’s annoying but whatever, LeBron, Russ and others could have played minimal minutes. I know the league doesn’t like this and have been handing out fines, and I certainly wouldn’t want a hurt player to play, but there has to be some kind of bridge between on this subject.
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Kid’s birthday last weekend, holiday prep coming up, and work is crazy busy.
Nice win, tho. I didn’t read much (anything) out of Russ not coming back into the game. He’ll play 40 minutes or so tonight without LeBron, only question being will he start. I doubt it. Ham, bless his rookie-head coach soul, has juuuuuust about nothing to work with so we’ll probably see ‘Bron sitting out one game of back-to-backs in the name of holding down the fort. Or maybe it’s his shooting. Don’t much care or really even see how it matters at this point.
Here’s my two-bits on how the Lakers can stay afloat:
-Waive Damien Jones. He’s just taking up space on our team. If Melo and Boogie can be brought onboard you have to do it. Maybe they spurn our dumpster fire but they can keep the offense going which is the side of the floor we should focus on. Our defensive identity, what little we had, went down with AD.
-Keep LeBron’s minutes reasonable OR limit his overall games played. This will of course mean keeping Russ who just plays in every game and plays hard in the face of an absurd level of criticism and expectation. Russ will be needed to drive ab offense without shooters or stars in the minutes and games LeBron is not on the court.
-Explore trades…but not for Russ, Nunn or PatBev. Sure, we can also do that. In fact adding PatBev to the trade I’m about to toss out there makes more than a little sense. the time has come to use those 2 FRPs to trade AD. Want to really go all-in? Then move the piece that can’t play to another team. Fans of AD will counter with how well he plays, his defensive impact and his unique skill set. I will look at one solitary stat that makes the rest irrelevant: games played. Out of 258 (to date but this disparity will grow even further) total NBA games played, not counting playoffs in or out of the Bubble, Davis has played in 163. Good for just 63.1% of total potential regular season games. Take away the 62 games he played his first season here, which was by far his healthiest, it gets staggeringly bad: 101 our of 194 or 52%. So, with the knowledge that there will never again be a Bubble-style playoff format, what real reason is there to believe he can get through anything close to 82 and be playoff ready? For a $39 million player, not to mention that assets we gave up in acquiring him, that is pretty terrible. I, for one, am done.Who would I trade him for? Because of the really awesome and super beneficial Klutch connection you can’t trade him anywhere, he has to go to a preferred destination. If this were just about any other franchise it wouldn’t matter, they’d just go out and find the best deal. We’re one of a very, very small club of teams (maybe the only one?) that will want to make sure AD is relatively happy where he ends up. This basically means Chicago.
AD would be happy to go home, Chicago could be on the verge of pulling chips off the table this season and punting to next, and they have players that could help the Lakers. The Bulls have just about all their future draft picks but that’s the cost of jettisoning a superstar who can’t be counted on to be available. What players would come to LA? I would push hard for Vucevic ($22 mil and expires this summer), Caruso ($9 mil, 2 more years), and Coby White ($7.4 mil, expires).
Is that a banner winning team? Probably not, neither is the one we got. Along with Russ, PatBev and Nunn that equates to potentially (roughly) $103 mil in expiring money. Heck, use PatBev and no picks and see what kind of ill-fitting player you can maneuver this way on a non-expiring deal and you’ll still have plenty of money to retain what players you like and make some moves for a second tier star next summer. You’ll also not be much worse off than you are now roster wise because at least those guys play.
For almost an entire year the sports world has been focused on trading a Lakers star. I just think they’re focused on the wrong one. Let Chicago, or any other team, pile hope on a player marked FRAGILE. For me, that ship has sailed. We’ll thank AD for the banner, along with Danny Green, Dwight Howard et al, but he is never going to be the franchise pillar we hoped he would be. Time to pivot to the next move on this front.
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I would wait to find out what this injury is before I would make any decision as important as trading Anthony Davis. But there’s something strange going on here. AD has no limp or boot. There’s some difference of opinion on rest or treatment? Fear of undiscovered Lisfranc injury that showed up? AD doesn’t look like his season or career is at risk.
I still don’t agree that the season is lost. Too early for that.
Or that we still could not win? Hopefully, the Lakers do too.
Funny how so many people have been through so much,
They’re ready to throw in the towel at the first road bump.
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Good fiver, Jamie.
1. Good game from LeBron. There’s no question, AD is now the alpha on this team although LeBron may not always act that way, as he took 24 shots vs. AD’s 18 although AD also get to the line on 6 shots that didn’t count as shots.
2. MVP AD. I agree, foul trouble is the only way to stop Anthony. Lakers just need to be more diligent about getting the ball to AD as that is the key to dominating opposing teams.
3. We continue to find ways to make up for losing the 3-point differential, usually a combination of points in the paint. Imagine how good we could be if we added some real size at the 3 and 5.
4. Austin Reaves should be starting. I don’t understand why he should not be there instead of either Beverley or Schröder. My guess is Pelinka promised them starting roles. It would be the type of stupid mistake he’s done before with Drummond.
5. Yes, it is working but not good enough to win anything. Hearing you now want to keep Russ and not make any trades is just your normal downer evolution. You’re just a shadow version of Rob Pelinka. Trades are going to happen. Live with it and stop plotting for the Lakers to suck.
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I think you should re-read what he said Tom, he basically wrote the type of trade he would be in favor of and the kind of trade he wouldn’t support.
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Thanks, MIchael. I did re-read Jamie’s 5th point and I was too hard on him. I’ve been sick all week and am so pissed about the Lakers that I did take take it out on Jamie. My apologies, Jamie. I should have read it carefully rather than just assumed it was the same old doom and gloom. There are some rays of hope in there. Who woulda thought?
I actually do agree that replacing Russ’ playmaking is critical. It’s why you see me wanting Mike Conley despite my hatred of another small guard but at least one who can shoot and take care of the ball.
I do also agree that whomever we trade for has to be a two-way player or he won’t get minutes. But then I see the Lakers wanting to trade for DeRozan and Vucevic, neither of whom can shoot from deep or play D.
What I totally disagree with is doing nothing but small moves on peripheral. Khris Dunn or Melo aren’t going to change anything. The only way to fix this roster is for Pelinka to trade the picks for quality rotation players, including a starting point guard and small forward.
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Agreed.