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    Rich Paul’s mouths

    Aloha,
    Romona Shelburne is reporting that the Lakers had an offer on the table for Brook Lopez but Rich Paul’s quote spooked him so he signed the Clippers.

    LeBron is beginning to irritate me. LeBron is concerned about playing for a championship. While no one should have to take a pay cut BUT if a championship is the goal than that 52 million available will not get it done. Not only does it hamper the Lakers ability to bring in necessary role players but the amount of assets a team would have to give up to trade for him is staggering. Teams just are not going to give up several very good players for a year or 2 of LeBron,

    If winning was indeed his priority, he should have never picked up that option.

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    • I had this debate with a friend. How can one say “I want to win” and simultaneously do the one thing that makes that very goal a lot harder? In a nut shell, it’s not LeBron’s problem. It’s Rob’s. Everyone wants LeBron to fix Master Class’s ineptitude. He offered that last season and got bounced in the 1st round. He’s watched the same front office bungles and stumbles we’ve all been watching. Only he works his ass off to be ready, and Hess’s doing that exact thing right now. Busting his tired, sore 40+ year old ass to be ready. Pelinka? He’s working on a Zen Garden or some other ridiculous bull shit. In short, what had Rob done to justify any kind of financial sacrifice? My feeling is not much. Not the way LeBron sees things, which is surely not how any fan sees things.

      • I have to disagree a little Jamie. We made a lot of moves for LeBron. We finally paid off our AD debt this draft. We sent Danny and a first for Dennis who had been 6th man of the year because LeBron had been our PG and he needed help. We were going to trade for Buddy. AD and LeBron have lunch with Westbrook and a couple of days later Rob trades for Westbrook forever pissing of the Kings because the deal was all but signed. There are other examples as well. Yes he works hard and has earned his pay but in today’s NBA with the cap aprons what they are you can’t have it both ways. And that’s not just LeBron. That’s guys like Giannis watching what the Bucks do. He and Dame were making 100 mil combined. The Joker said they need depth. How with that amount of salaries. When salaries get to a certain level it’s hard to do much. LeBron’s a smart guy and I know he must understand the cap dynamics. Having his agent put that statement out that cost him a center that could have helped him win just pissed me off.

        • I guess I just don’t like the heavy handed way he handled it.

        • I get all that. I think, for the players, they already feel like they give up a lot each and every year when it comes to the BRI split. If there was no cap, what would LeBron’s salary be if measured by in court impact, jersey sales, returning the Lakers to relevance and adding a title? Way more than $52.6 mil.

          Rich Paul certainly dropped a poorly worded statement (and did the press rounds today to soothe the wound) but that is not the same as LeBron valuing his time and worth. Rob needs to be better, in this instance, not LeBron.

          Folks can and will disagree but I’ve always felt, and said often, that the players need to maximize the dollars they earn playing a game for as much and as long as they can. Hell, in California that $52 mil drops to around $27 right off the bat.

          • I just never play with other people’s money. Got rich friends, got poor friends. Some inherited wealth, others earned. Regardless, it is theirs. Not my business how they go about theirs.

            • I will also forget advocate for a fair and more evenly distributed taxation system that benefits the lower earners. But that’s another topic lol

          • I’m just saying he can’t have it both ways, so don’t whine about it publicly.

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    Ollllld Master Class is at it again!

    Rob’s out in the backyard literally turning over rocks waiting for some other GM to bail him out. Meanwhile all the ‘contend now’ centers are off the board, many of them squarely in our price range and us having a starting role to bequeath without competition.

    The fact that Hayes is still out there is both a sign of our ineptitude and how much we seemingly blew it with him.

    Luka’s working out, LeBron’s doing LeBron and there’s olllllld “Master Class” waiting for the tea leaves to dry while seemingly literally looking under stones.

    It’d be funnier except, as Mongo astutely pointed out, this clownish futility all factors in to Luka re-upping for a quarter of a billion dollars.

    If I know my absolute favorite GM he just might find a way to blow this, too. Incredible considering all we had to was hold onto one guy (DFS) and keep the phone lines open for a decent center or two…

    Takes a lotta work to fuck up this much. Takes a lotta grace to fuck up this often and still have the job.

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    • Even if we sign Ayton (no guarantee by a country mile) he’s not really what we need. He’s been hurt, he average a piddling 56 games per season.

      His defense is suspect, he averages more turnovers than blocks for his career.

      The only thing he does consistently is make everyone around him dislike him so much they’re willing to either pay him to go away or signal well before his contract is up that a trade for him would be most welcome! Most welcome, indeed…

      Horford might be 7,210 years old but pairing him with Richards or Hayes makes a shit ton more sense than blowing what tiny little watery wad we have on this knucklehead.

      If Ayton was truly plan A from the get go it was a shitty plan from the get go. This is all really disappointing. Hope it finally gets Master Class fired.

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    Nick Richards

    Aloha,

    Nick Richards is one more center option. He averaged 9 pts, 8.2 rebounds 2.7 offensive, and a block in 22 minutes. His salary is 5 mil. Even after the Durant trade the Suns are still deep in the 2nd apron. What would be appealing for the Suns is they could trade him into the Lakers MLE or Bi annual, without taking back salary. Now would they take our 2032 2nd for him? Perhaps if they can’t find a better deal they might consider it. They brought in two new centers. I am not sure of the 2nd apron multipliers but they save minimum of 2.5 mil in taxes and his 5 mil salary. Even if we were to sign Ayton, Richards would be a great pick up.

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    • Been one of my top 3 targets all along. Rob “Stone Turner” probably wont get it done, though.

      • Horford and Richards would fine. I’d trade Dalton for a S&T’d Richards in a heart beat. This is all quite astoundjng…

        • The beauty of a Richard’s trade is they are unlikely to want players back be of their 2nd apron status. They still need a PG as well with Jones moving on. I’m sure they would do a deal for a 2nd round pick with no player coming back. There is a multiplier that I have figured out but looking at similar deals and the draft pick coming in they could save close to 20 mil by moving Richard’s. I was kind of surprised when they didn’t cut him. Perhaps they are looking to trade him for a PG.

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    LAKERS CONSIDERING HORFORD WITH AYTON

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    Priorities

    What’s Priority #1 for the Lakers this summer?

    Ask different people and you’ll hear a variety of answers. Most
    will say filling the Center position. Others might say improving perimeter defense. Some would tell you we need more depth overall. Still others would emphasize retaining draft capital and flexibility to build around Luka in the future.

    They’re all incorrect.

    The #1 priority (hell…the ONLY priority) is to make sure Luka signs that extension A.S.A.fukkinP. So far, Rob and the FO have failed to do anything that would make that a forgone conclusion. Despite the pending sale of the team, it’s been the same ol Rob. Let’s not forget…Luka didn’t choose to come here; he was traded in humiliating fashion. He has no history, no ties, no roots…he could easily walk away to what he perceives to be a better situation.

    The Lakers can’t sit around waiting for Mark Walter to come in and fix everything. The clock is running for the franchise to prove to Luka that he can trust them and agree to stay here long term. Otherwise, this thing has the potential to turn into a disaster.

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    LAKERS MUST TRADE FOR ROBERT WILLIAMS!

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    WHAT'S PLAN B FOR LAKERS IF NO AYTON?

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    ROB PELINKA AND HIS PROBLEM W/CENTERS: MARK WILLIAMS, ALEX LEN, DE'ANDRE AYTON

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    No stone left unturned

    Aloha,

    No stone left unturned Rob, better hope there are stones left to turn or our center rotation will be Hayes, Koloko and Jamison. That’s if we don’t lose Hayes while we wait.

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    • If we lose Ayton, there is no other starting center available in free agency and no other starting quality center available for trade with two or less years on his contract. We are literally fucked.

      Only saving grace is that could likely result in Rob getting fired sooner than later. Unbelievable. I like LaRavia but prioritizing him over a starting center is an unbelievable error. Frankly, we would be better off as a team to rescind the offer to Jake if it would save us with Ayton.

      Man, suddenly Robert Williams is looking great

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    Turner to Bucks basically seals Ayton to Lakers.

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    • The Pacers have no center and 14 million available. We have 8 mil. Basically if the Pacers want him, they can get him. I wonder how badly Ayton wants to win.

    • He worked out a buyout with the Trailblazers. I heard that 10 mil was the amount he gave back to the trailblazers.

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    We are screwed

    Aloha,

    I never thought I would say this, but if we don’t sign Ayton, we are screwed. We have watched every decent center sign contracts in our price range while we wait on a head case to make a decision. And now the Pacers suddenly need a center.

    I am totally against this 2 year contract nonsense. It’s pie in the sky, hoping a star walks, when most stars move via sign and trade these days. The way things are going, Rob doesn’t have to worry about it because he won’t be around in two years.

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    • Even Jericho has signed, for crying out loud. Not only are missing out on the decent centers, we are losing depth pieces as well. I wonder what Luka is thinking. No center and his close friend walked because of the stupid two year thing.

    • Absolutely agree with you 100%, Michael. Lakers will have over $100M in cap space next summer and even if a superstar is not available, they can load up with covetable two-way role players on team friendly contracts that are the trading chips they will need for a trade if no free agent.

      I could see not signing any long term contracts and holding onto the pick until next summer but waiting two seasons is like suicide. Luka should be pissed. Can’t wait until Mark Walter takes over although he may have approved this for all we know.

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