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    LEBRON TRADE MUST BE WIN-WIN!

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    I keep reading that the Lakers need to go all in to win with LeBron. I don’t know what that means when you have one distant first, 2nd and swaps that won’t matter much until the next decade. If anyone is paying attention, quality players are quite expensive. Desmond Bane cost 4 first round picks and a swap and he’s not even an all star. The best player the Lakers have been linked to is Andrew Wiggins. He barely moves the needle if at all. And if his price tag is Rui, Dalton, another contract to make the money work and a 1st, sorry, I’ll pass.

    Actually, I think the Lakers have done a good job, considering what they have to work with. And they haven’t done anything stupid yet. Well that not exactly true. Ghosting LeBron like they have is like is like breaking up with someone without even a text. That’s a bad look but then LeBron is a bit of a prima Donna so we don’t know everything that may have happened behind the scene.

    The only trades for LeBron that make sense from the other team’s perspective would be the Knicks Kat for LeBron or the Warriors Butler for LeBron. I don’t think there will be a trade but if there is, the Warriors would be the most likely.

    I think the best path for the Lakers to take now is to wait and see how this group looks with a training camp. We have until February to make a trade. It will give the Lakers a chance to see If Ayton can become the center they need, what players show growth and what players may become available. This may not be a championship contender but it is a good team and more moves can be made later in the year if needed.

    By the way, holding onto that 1st round pick now means we could have basically 3 first rounders to trade if done during the draft next summer.

    The mystery of why Eric Dixon hasn’t played has been solved. He has been spotted in a walking boot in Vegas. I don’t know the extent of the injury but it must be semi serious because he hasn’t signed a two way contract yet. This happened with Goodwin last year. He was set to sign a two way and got hurt. After he recovered they brought him to the G league and eventually the varsity. I wonder if they will sign someone else to the two way and wait on Dixon to heal.

    Up to this point Dalton is making sure he isn’t traded. He has had a sub par summer so far. Actually Swider would have more value if he was under contract. He has filled the shooter role that Dalton was supposed to fill.

    It will be interesting to see what happens with Bazley. He is not eligible for a two way and it would take a few roster moves to add him to the team. They could add him the G league team but someone may snatch him up.

    Bronny is beginning to look like a solid pick at 55. He has transformed his body and is now’s 220 pounds of muscle as we saw when Flagg could not move him. I can now see him developing into a role player similar to Avery Bradley. Tough defender with secondary ball handling skills, that can shoot the 3.

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    • I’m not all that worried about the James optics. They are designed to be focused on Luka. While I hear you that some better communication may, or may not, have smoothed this over I think the reality is LeBron was always going to have a tough time passing the torch to anyone at all. Why? I think back to Kobe, playing on essentially one leg for his last season shooting the ball nearly 17 times/game, missing most of those and repeating every night. Comes a time you don’t care about the team you’re leaving behind but more about you proving everyone wrong. That’s how the greats are wired. We sit back in a comfy chair with this or that opinion and it’s not coming from a place anywhere near what fuels them. It’s why Kobe didn’t pass the ball to younger, more able-bodies teammates, why LeBron picked up his option (also no other team could pay him that) and why, increasingly, in this game the Lakers hold more cards.

    • Agreed on summer league thoughts, wishing we could reconnect pre-trade Dalton but that feels unlikely now and may be in both parties best interest to move on. Swider looks solid every summer, can’t handle NBA defense. I’d waive Shake for Bazely but we’ll see.

    • you got your wish man, no Dalton snd Swider playing starter minutes did well.

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    This Is Absurd

    Evidently reputable journalists at BSPN now are required ro generate clickbait articles in order to keep their jobs? BTW BSPN isn’t a typo. I’m about 2 articles away from any fucking site from walking away for the summer because of how stupid and annoying all this has become. Let’s look……again……..at some what really are pretty simple facts.

    1) LeBron has a No Trade clause. Meaning he will not go to a stripped down team with one other star and the last remianing MLE signed role-player. This was also implied in the Rich Paul press release. So for the love of fucking logic stop with any trades that have James end up in a city he won’t play in (any but San Fran, New York…not Brooklyn or LA). He is not going to Dallas. They are, at best, a year out from contending because of KI’s jnjury. Especially after they gut the roster which wouldn’t happen because of the optics of the Luka trade. Please, try and use basic logic, folks. Plus, any multi-player deal thatbbrings over 3-4 players would put the Lakers in a massive bind since our roster is already at 15. We can waive but one, solitary player with no penalties: Shake Milton. Everything else woukd require us to waive a player and take the cap hit. Not. Happening.

    2) For like, the bajillionth time, the Lakers do not want to trade LeBron. “B-b-but they had a super secret than not secret at all meeting with Luka?!?!” Please. For one second I wish people would think. That dinner had to go down exactly like that. The Lakers are intentionally sending clear and vibrant signals that the top of the pecking order starts and ends with Luka. He did not ask to come here. He did not demand a trade. He was blind-sided and felt betrayed. The Lakers desperately need Luka to commit long term and they’re going to build trust by having him show up to a super secret but then not so secret dinner with the 41 year old face of the NBA and say “Heyyyyyy guy, you’re the man…he’s just here to pick the best bottle of grapes we’re sll gonna chug down. It’s cool, it’s alllllll coooooool”. That shit will not fly. Luka’s camp is looking for two things: winning and stability. So far everyone has said the right things but we all know what that amounts to in the world of pro sport.

    3) This is all posturing. You know how I took the Rich Paul press release at first? Pro Forma, business as usual, standard operating procedure. Reading about some of the background now (LBJ not being consulted on the Williams trade, not being told of the sale, not getting an offer….even though he said from pretty mich the get-go he’d be picking upbthe option) it now reads like John Cusack holding a ghettoblaster over his head playing ‘Don’t You Forget About Me’. There is certainly a time limit on all of this and I, for one, applaud the Lakers for clearly stating their intentions of building around Luka. It sounds like, as akways, communication around certain issues could hsve been better but it’s also hard to argue that for the last few years the Lakers have willingly accomodated just about every single desire expressed by the James Camp. Now, they really have no choice but to start looking ahesd and they have done, with some big time Nico help, to be sure.

    This is not necessarilly an ending, the Lakers are just making sure they have the strongest hand at the table next summer. A move on unexpected poise and power it reminds me of Dr. Buss who weathered more superstar tantrums than most teame dream of going through. LeBron may well retire a Laker if for no other reason than he has built a very comfortable life here in LA. While that may not be set in stone I ask you, what is?

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    • While I agree with most everything you said, there were a couple of Laker missteps I wish they did not make. First they should have announced LeBron picking up his options. They should have put out something like the Lakers are thrilled to have LeBron coming back. Not doing that was kind of bush. And it would not have killed them to at least have a conversation about his contract. They would not have had to offer anything but it’s something they should have done for someone of LeBron’s stature. You know it pissed him off enough to miss Bronny’s summer league game. I just think the Lakers could have handled it a little better.

      • It wouldn’t have hurt anything if they had told LeBron about the team sale. He’s earned that level of respect.

        • Yeah, I agree on all that and it sounds like most/none of it happened. Not surprising Rob has figured out how to make this more difficult, too.

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    TRADING LEBRON WOULD MAKE LAKERS BETTER!

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      • I agree that it would suck to lose LeBron for nothing. The biggest problem is the amount of contracts required. That Mav’s trade that’s been floated on the click bait circuit would never happen. The Mav’s won’t gut their depth for a year or 2 of LeBron. Same goes with the Cav’s. There are only two trades that would not gut a team. The Knicks could send Kat pretty much straight up. Maybe we get a pick. I’m not a fan of Kat. His defense lost the Pacers series. The other most likely trade would be LeBron and Bronny for Jimmy Butler. Maybe we get a 1st from the Warriors out of it as well. When Jimmy is not hurt he is still pretty good. He is a clutch scorer and would upgrade our perimeter defense at the 3. He has one more year left after this year on his contract. We also would have another roster spot available. I don’t think this trade would necessarily make us better but I could see the Lakers doing it if LeBron requests it.

        • I’m with you on KAT. Hard pass.

        • If you squint hard enough you can see it all working out to see James becoming a Warrior. The obstacle with that trade is the Lakers desire to keep the books as clean as possible for 26/27. Coupled with the difficulties moving Butler’s deal would present (older, famous for blowing up situations he doesn’t like, oft injured at this point) and one would understand the Lakers hesitation. I think they’d do it for 2 or so picks (1st and 2nd rounders maybe).

    • I think there’s an aspect to all this BS that folks are ignoring. The Lakers will, under no circumstances, trade LeBron unless he requests it. This is due both to their obvious desire to have him retire a Laker and his no trade clause. He’s not going to go a gutted Mavs team to play with AD and half a roster. He’s not going knows how that’s going to end. No Kyrie for most/all of the year doesn’t add to allure, either.

      • In short, if LeBron doesn’t like the result of the trade it will not happen. Doesn’t matter what else anyone thinks. He can veto it all on his own.

    • It doesn’t really. I guess it depends on how pissed off he is. He does have an affinity for high profile vets. He would have taken less for Klay last year. He’s good friends with Steph and Draymond. That could be appealing I guess. Still if he were honest he would see it as more of a lateral move.

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    • FROM THE ABOVE ARTICLE:

      The Los Angeles Lakers have had an underwhelming offseason so far. The Lakers have made very little effort to show they are willing to contend for a title this upcoming season.

      More news: LeBron James Hasn’t Reached Out to Deandre Ayton, But Luka Doncic Has

      Many expected the Lakers to be big players in free agency and the trade market, but that has not been the case. Instead, the conversation this offseason has been centered around their superstar forward, LeBron James, and not for the reason many think.

      The conversation surrounding James is not about his potential retirement but whether he will remain with the Lakers for the foreseeable future. That is the question on everyone’s mind.

      James has a no-trade clause in his contract, so it’s really in his hands if he wants to remain in LA or not, despite the Lakers reported desire to move on from him.

      Nonetheless, those wheels may be in motion, at least according to ESPN’s Ramona Shelburne and Brian Windhorst. In their latest column, they reported how all signs point to the Lakers wanting to move on from James by the spring of 2026.

      “The Lakers had already made their statement in not offering James a contract beyond this season. It was abundantly clear that the 21-time All-Star’s time as the face of the Lakers had, for the first time, a planned end date, even if James’ record-setting NBA career did not yet. Whether the 2025-26 season is to be James’ final season in the NBA is up to him. But if he wanted the kind of Hollywood ending that only the Lakers can give legends of the game, the release date was set. Spring, 2026. Luka Doncic in, LeBron James out.”

      James recently exercised his $52.6 million option prior to the start of the free agency period. All signs point to James playing in the 23rd season of his NBA career; however, whether it will be with the Lakers is unclear.

      There’s been plenty of speculation about where James could end up next, but if a trade were to go down, it’s unlikely to happen during the upcoming season. If anything does materialize, a move this summer feels like the more realistic window.

      It is clear the Lakers are looking forward, and why shouldn’t they? James is about to be 41 in December, and they have a 26-year-old superstar in Luka Doncic who could carry them to multiple championships for at least the next decade.

    • They’ll wait as long as it takes for him to formally request a trade. End of story, end of discussion.

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    Aloha,

    So this whole Lebron saga is getting pretty stale fast. Obviously the communication between the Lakers and Lebron has not been good. Not announcing that Lebron signed the extension was bush. But talking through your agent is totally passive aggressive behavior. And I thought that Lebron not welcoming Ayton was pretty poor. Lebron has been a prima donna his entire career and he got his feelings hurt. Just don’t pretend this is about building a champion because that became much more difficult when he picked up his option. Everyone has the right to get paid but don’t whine about wanting to play for a championship.

    The trade option also became really difficult when he picked up that option as well. Currently there are only two teams that could do a trade without gutting their team. The Knicks could send Kat. No thanks. He is the wrong type of center for Luka, and the Pacers won the series by repeatably attacking Kat in the paint. The other would be the Warriors who could send Butler. He’s in decline but still a clutch scorer and good perimeter defender. he trade might make sense for them. Still I would be surprised if anything happens.

    The Lakers entered the off season shoot out armed with a butter knife. Want a consolidation trade? That would be great but what team takes on two unwanted contract for a 2032 2nd round pick. Want a star? What team trades one for a single first round pick. Want a player upgrade, you better be prepared to send out all of your remaining assets for them. Everyone wants to screw over the Lakers and we have seen it in the asking prices.

    I think the Lakers have done about as much as you can hope for. We landed Luka without giving up the farm. We signed the best center on the market that we could afford, heck, better than many we could have traded for. We signed a young promising forward with upside and we turned the number 55 pick into a 36 and drafted a player that was in the first round on most mocks. I don’t believe in wild click bait trade machine trades illusions, so I don’t see how we could have done much better, given the ridiculous asking prices from some teams. There could be small moves left but nothing that will turn us into the contender Lebron wants. Internal growth will be the key to the season. If Lebron wants to win he should embrace that and help where he can. Ghosting your new teammates is juvenile behavior. Hopefully this is resolved soon. It will be sickening if it lasts to the trade deadline.

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      This was even made clear to Luka himself earlier this offseason as the Lakers superstar guard met with Rob Pelinka and JJ Redick at a Hollywood restaurant where the team’s plans were laid out to him, via Ramona Shelburne and Brian Windhorst of ESPN:

      The purpose of the meeting was as clear as their choice of door: Doncic is the face of the franchise now and the Lakers wanted him — and everyone else — to know it.

      Over a bottle of Opus One, Pelinka and Redick explained not only their strategy in building the team around Doncic’s skill set, sources told ESPN, but also the complexities of the NBA’s new collective bargaining agreement and how they planned to navigate it.

      And Doncic and his representatives were apparently receptive to what the Lakers brass laid out with his manager Lara Beth Seager noting the strong working relationship that has been formed over the past few months:

      That message has been received warmly. “The Lakers leadership team has been incredibly welcoming and supportive of Luka since we arrived in L.A.,” Seager told ESPN. “We’ve spent a lot of time talking and getting to know each other over the last few months, and we’ve formed a strong working relationship. Championships are won when you work together. We all share that same goal.”

      For the past few years, it has been the Lakers working with LeBron James closely to do whatever was needed for this franchise to win at a high level. But the acquisition of Luka has caused the Lakers to switch gears, and rightfully so. The team still wants to compete right now, but they also have a map for how they want to build in the future and that involves Doncic at the forefront as the face of this franchise, something he is clearly embracing as well.

      Luka Doncic excited about teaming with Deandre Ayton on Lakers

      The Lakers’ biggest offseason acquisition was center Deandre Ayton, who projects as an ideal pick-and-roll partner with Luka Doncic. And Ayton’s skillset, along with his previous success in Phoenix, are the main reasons why Doncic is excited about teaming with him on the Lakers.

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    • …….ok…..I’m going to say one more thing on this then I’m out in all th “Golly Gee Willickers Whatever Will LeBron DO?!?!” crap.. They are getting what they want. Both sides. LBJ wants to get paid, play with his kid and win a ring in exactly that order. Heck, playing with Bronny might even come first. Roch Paul’s corporate BS aside, and the level of attention that has gotten is pathetic to me, means nothing.

      • The Lakers are hoping he’ll announce this a a his swan song but I don’t think he will, they got the best they can hope for now: James in what could be his final year as a NBA icon while wearing a purple and gold uniform playing in LA. Every stat he piles onto his record setting career shows up as a Laker. If they manage to win a title because, as you like to continue to remind me the road to the title is wide open (which means that the Lakers as currently constructed have as good a shot as anyone after OKC) it means they tie Boston (again) and LBJ gets to 5 titles which matches him with Magic and Kobe and gets his jersey retired on the wall for sure. Yes, he wants 3 jerseys in 3 cities.

    • Next summer, just 10 months and change from now, there will be questions about what kind of deal it would take to keep James a Laker. By then a lot will have changed. We’ll have seen a full camp and season of what Luka and LeBron can do. If any of our other forthcoming free agents (Reaves and Rui, mainly) take a step forward in their games or show they should remain a part of the core to stay and/or get a raise.

      • It is in both LeBron’s and the Lakers best interests that he stay right where he is. In the 26-27 summer two whole teams are projected to have cap space avaikable: Memphis and Brooklyn. Those teams will not be on LeBron’s list of teams he wants to end his career on. Could another team make room via sign and trade or trading players into Brooklyn’s projected $19 or Memphis’ $4 million in projected cap space? Sure. But that amount won’t be enough to entice LeBron to switch cities. His list is likely a short, probably unrealistic one. The Lakers are likely the only team that will overpay to keep him in the fold. Mark “I Help ICE” Williams and his deep pockets will be the owner by then. The stakes will have moved and the positioning on the field will be very different in 300 or so days.

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    • FROM THE ABOVE ARTICLE:

      James understood the Lakers taking advantage of an opportunity to pivot to the younger superstar. But from James’ perspective, sources said, nuance was sometimes lost during the transition. Doncic had never asked to be a Laker. James, for his part, had chosen L.A., coming in 2018 when the team had missed the playoffs five consecutive seasons, the worst run for the franchise since it moved from Minneapolis. Two years later, James had helped deliver a 17th championship.

      Paul also had to formally inform the Lakers that James intended to pick up the final year of his contract after the team did not engage in any substantial discussions about extending him by a year or two, sources said, as they had twice previously during James’ Lakers’ tenure. It was then that he let the organization know about the coming statement.

      The Lakers had already made their statement in not offering James a contract beyond this season. It was abundantly clear that the 21-time All-Star’s time as the face of the Lakers had, for the first time, a planned end date, even if James’ record-setting NBA career did not yet.

      Whether the 2025-26 season is to be James’ final season in the NBA is up to him. But if he wanted the kind of Hollywood ending that only the Lakers can give legends of the game, the release date was set.

      Spring, 2026.

      Luka Doncic in, LeBron James out.

      • Ahhh the supposition continues! Love all the ridiculous hyperbole. Know what cracks me up the most? Everyone, out in the media and here on the blog spent every summer for the last 4 years hoping, begging, praying, sacrificing first-born children to the basketball gods that Anthony Davis would do this exact thing: Take. The. Fucking. Torch.

        Now we get a player that can, will and probably already has aaaaaaaand…boy is it a problem. Big, big problem. Sometimes Lakers fans just can’t help but lose their minds over the mist ridiculous bullshit ever. This, my friends, is ridiculous.

        • I agree that usually these things are just smoke with no fire but considering what’s already happened this summer, a LeBron trade would not surprise me at all.

          Bottom line, the Lakers would love to be able to get something for LeBron instead of letting him walk for nothing. I don’t think it’s going to happen but the lid has been lifted from the impossible happening now.

          Teams are doing crazy things right now because it’s anybody’s championship next season and everybody knows there are multiple possible dynasties emerging.

          Not a good time for conservative projections, Jamie.

          • Not a projection, conservative or otherwise. Just looking at the facts available to everyone. Any contending team would have to utterly gut their roster-not happening for a 41 year old, no matter how good he is. Same goes for draft picks.

          • Teams have been doing what they needed to do: Phoenix moved their easiest, costliest asset. Houston paid a fair price for it and will likely contend if KD stays healthy. Milwaukee did the same with Dame, they freed up space to build around Giannis.. Same goes for Boston, all moves were made to get under the 2nd apron.

            • Lakers are under the 2nd apron, there are no wacky moves. LeBron picked up his option because he knows what the Lakers know: nobody was going to pay him that amount this summer. No contenders had room, and I’m sure Rich Paul knew that none would fit the roster to accommodate him in a sign and trade.

            • In short, these aren’t projections dude. This is simple, empirical data. The Lakers were literally the only team that had what matters to James: space to accommodate his salary, his son in the roster, and a chance to win. The level of BS being shoveled around the inter webs because of Rich Paul’s carbon copy from every 3-4 year statement is beyond funny to me.

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    • Think camp would determine this, not sure if Jake is a better defender than Hachimura. Don’t see us trading 2/3 players for Wiggins

      • On numbers alone Rui has more impact than Wiggins. Shoots a higher % from 3 and has room to catch up on defense. At 30, after 2 years of half here, half somewhere else basketball I’m doubtful we’ll get the Wiggins you’re likely hoping for. That being the one from 4-5 years ago. The one that earned himself that big deal.

        • The role in our offense suits Rui better, as well, as he has superior size and weight that he uses well. Makes smart cuts, hits the open shots, has never complained about his role.

          • Lastly, Wiggins messes everything up for next year when his contract will be $30+ million and the option will all but certainly be picked up. I’d rather have a motivated, younger Rui trying to earn his next deal than a disconnected, not playing for a deal Wiggins.

            • I can forgive a disappointing year. But Wiggins has had 3 disappointing years in a row. Give the Heat that trade package and we literally have nothing left to trade.

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    LAKERS CAN'T WASTE LEBRON'S LAST YEAR!

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    • Who says its LeBron’s last year?

      • Until the Farewell to the King tour is announced he’s always aiming for the following season. Mark it down as fact, folks. Dude is playing until he’s 45. Maybe 46 so he can pass ollllld Nat Hickey (really unfortunate name there) as the oldest NBA player ever.

      • Even as a Laker. They live in each other’s orbit and no other team will cater to his whims like ours does. Hell, he just had Luka on his Surefire Path to be an NBA Coach, er, I mean Mind the Game podcast. This BS is what’s known as Cuh-Lick Bait baby!

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    TRADE AUSTIN REAVES FOR HERB JONES?

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    • I don’t think offense is going to be our problem this season…but that defense is gonna be a thorn in our side all year long as currently constructed. I’d take the huge upgrade in perimeter defense with Jones and sacrifice some scoring by losing Reeves.

      Looking at the meager options actually available to us out there, I’m almost ready to punt on this season. The problem is whether Luka is gonna want to sit still for that process or decides to opt-out and bolt next summer. After watching the playoffs, we ain’t close to catching OKC (nobody is, really) and other teams have probably leapfrogged us this summer. Again, that 3 seed was only about 2 games from being in the play-in. Don’t let the smooth taste fool ya…lol

      • I don’t know why you think Jones is available. The Pels just signed him to a 3 year extension. You usually don’t do that if you are wanting to trade someone.

        • Obviously, I’m playing in Tom’s Fantasy Land on a slow Friday trying to get to the weekend….lmao

          • Actually the comment was aimed at Tom. He’s always trading for guys that aren’t available. Lol.

            • The point of the post was that Reaves is now too valuable with LeBron leaving for the Lakers to trade him, even for a great fit like Herb.

              But then you would have had to actually read the post to understand that.

      • Dude the OKC Summer League team looks like they could sneak into the playin…

    • I don’t remember the Tweet that started LeBron Tweet-Gate a couple years back because I don’t do Twitter but this feels like that level of absurdity now. LeBron and Rich Paul must be incredible fishermen, they can bait a line with a dried turd and a rubber band, throw it in the ocean and fish for days…

      • I apologize Tom, but in my defense the article headline is quite misleading.

        • It was a response to another poster who was saying that Reaves should be traded for a player like Jones. While I was willing to trade Austin because we had Luka and LeBron, I’m not willing to trade him now that LeBron is gone after this season. My bad for answering wrong link.

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    Mavs Edge Lakers 87-85 As Bronny Misses Game Winner

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    • Solid game, Lakers missed a ton of free throws, Cooper has some skills but seemed to struggle with even this level of “defense” but he stayed the course. Didn’t love that last play, sloppy execution and timing led to a well contested three.

    • He would have been instantly inducted into the Basketball Hall Of Fame if he made that shot. The amount of unfair, unrealistic expectations placed on LBJjr is absolutely ridiculous.

      If I was Cooper Flagg, I’d attach myself to the hip of Klay Thompson and learn how to be a pro from one of the best. Hopefully he’ll be able to humble himself and take his advice (if Klay is willing to be a mentor to him).

      • Flags going to be good. No question. But the media has hyped him into a player that’s going to make the Mav’s true contenders this year. The media are making trades because he’s going to be so good. He is 18, it’s going to take time. He’s not going to beat out PJ this year. Kobe was the same age and it took him a couple of years to become that guy.

      • Yeah..I don’t see him being ROY because he’s the rare #1 overall pick who’s actually going to a pretty good team…their Frontline is stacked. It’s a huge opportunity for him to learn in that type of structure. He’s surrounded 4 HOF’ers (Kidd, AD, Klay, Kyrie) ,a buncha solid NBA vets, and some well-respected asst. coaches. If he takes advantage of that situation then he’ll be well on his way to a very successful NBA career. He just can’t get distracted by the early expectations and try to be a superstar on Day 1.

        • Good points, if it comes down to gaudy numbers Bailey might be in the best situation to win ROY.

      • Yeah, I feel for Bronny sometimes, dude will always be in his Pop’s massive shadow. But he coulda been anything and he clearly wants this so go do what you can, dude.

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