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Read MoreRob Pelinka and the Los Angeles Lakers have won the NBA offseason by dramatically upgrading their championship roster, setting themselves up for a midseason mega trade, and keeping their cap space clear for 2021.
While there’s still work to do signing veteran centers to minimum contracts and maybe pulling off a blockbuster trade to land Sacramento Kings guard Bogdan Bogdanovic, Pelinka and the Lakers dominated the competition. Without the distraction of waiting for Kawhi, Pelinka was like a chessmaster in a checkers tournament not only filling all the Lakers’ major roster needs but also positioning the team perfectly for even bigger moves in the future.
1. Upgrading a Championship Roster.
Rob Pelinka kicked off the offseason by filling the Lakers’ need for a second playmaker and third scorer by trading shooting guard Danny Green and the 28th pick in the NBA draft for OKC Thunder point guard Dennis Schroder. Swapping 34-year old Green for the 27-year old Schroder not only gave the Lakers a player who fits Anthony Davis’ timeline but also a lightning quick point guard who shot better from deep and had a better defensive rating.
Pelinka then used free agency to fill the 3-and-D hole left by trading Green by signing Milwaukee Bucks’ free agent guard Wes Matthews, a better wing defender and 3-point shooter than Green, with the Bi-Annual Exception. Finally, the Lakers surprised the entire league by stealing backup center and Sixth Man of the Year winner Montrezl Harrell from their crosstown rival Los Angeles Clippers with the full Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level Exception.
Replacing Green, Howard, and Rondo with Schroder, Matthews, and Harrell dramatically upgrades the Lakers’ offense. While Schroder and Matthews are better defenders than Rondo and Green, Howard’s better than Harrell. The real bang for the Lakers is on the offensive side where the addition of Schroder, Matthews, and Harrell adds an astonishing 24.3 points per game, 44.9 points per game vs. 20.6 points per game Green, Howard, and Rondo.
And the Lakers may not be done. They’re still rumored to be working on a blockbuster trade for Bogdan Bogdanovic and looking to sign veteran players to minimum contracts to fill out their roster and center rotation.
2. Setting Up a Midseason Mega Trade.
By collecting attractive assets on favorable midsized contracts, Pelinka has the Lakers perfectly positioned to pull off a midseason blockbuster trade for a coveted third superstar to complement LeBron James and Anthony Davis. With teams looking to move superstars like Giannis Antetokounmpo who are slated to become unrestricted free agents at the end of the season, the midseason trade deadline could even be crazier than this wild offseason.
Last season, the Lakers lacked assets to make a move at the trade deadline. This season, between Schroder, Harrell, and KCP, Rob Pelinka will have almost $40 million in attractive tradable contracts to pull off a mega trade. That flexibility will also enable the Lakers to tweak their roster in case of injuries or players underperforming and take advantage of opportunities that might arise if the havoc of the coronavirus pandemic panics teams.
Making a midseason mega trade for a third superstar who’s going to be a free agent at the end of the season has big advantages for the Lakers. First, the risk of not being able to re-sign the player can reduce competitive offers. Second, the Lakers would receive Bird rights which would enable them to to over the cap to re-sign the player to a max contract. Realistically, that’s the only way the Lakers could end up with three superstars on max contracts.
Last offseason, waiting for Kawhi kept the Lakers from from positioning themselves for a midseason mega trade. This offseason Rob was able to fill the Lakers’ immediate needs and set the team up for a big midseason move.
3. Keeping Cap Space Clear for 2021.
If there’s been one overriding strategy since Rob Pelinka took over from Magic Johnson at VP of Basketball Operations for the Lakers, it was to clear max cap space for the 2021 offseason to pursue Giannis Antetokounmpo. While the Lakers are not done building out their roster for 2021, there’s no doubt they’re still prioritizing keeping their cap sheet as clear as possible as none of the deals they’ve done so far has been for multiple year contracts.
Dennis Schroder, for whom the Lakers traded Green, has one year left on his contract, Wesley Matthews signed a 1-year contract with the Lakers and Montrezl Harrell signed a below market 2-year deal with a player option. While other teams have signed players to multiple year contracts, the Lakers have stuck to their grand plan to create the max cap space possible to pursue a third superstar to complement LeBron James and Anthony Davis.
That strategy may face its first real test should the Lakers be successful in convincing the Sacramento Kings and Bogdan Bogdanovic to mutually agree to a two-sided sign-and-trade for Kuzma, McGee, and Caldwell-Pope. Bogdanovic and Caldwell-Pope are both looking for long term contracts so the Lakers may have to make an exception if they want to trade for Bogdan or re-sign Kenny. Either way, both would still be valuable trading chips.
While the lower salary cap numbers for next offseason due to the expected lost revenue from the pandemic will make it near impossible to sign a third max contract superstar, the Lakers want the most cap flexibility possible.
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The Lakers must feel differently, Michael, because from everything I read the deal is on the table. I do like KCP and Kuzma and won’t be broken hearted if nothing happens but Bogdan is bigger and a better shooter, rebonder, and playmaker. This year is only year Kenny shot better than Bogdan. His future trade value is better.
Whether the deal happens is probably up to whether Atlanta is offering more than the Lakers. Kings want a S&T so they don’t lose him for nothing. And Luke likes Kuzma and knows KCP. There’s been smoke so there’s still a chance for fire. I wouldn’t be shocked if it happened. It would be the cherry on top of our offseason cherry.
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Aloha Tom
could you post an article that says that KCP and Kuz are on the table for Bogdon? all i have seen is reporters speculating what a deal could look like, not what the Lakers are actually thinking. You are right, Bogdan has shot .374 to Kenny’s .371 from 3 over the last 3 years. But i like KCP’s defense more, so I’m not that concerned about the .03 three point shooting difference. And for me it is not about who is better KCP or Bogdan, it is that I don’t believe he is good enough to give up both KCP and Kuz.
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Aloha, Michael.
Just my read of the tea leaves. I think Lakers would make the trade but the question is how much would they be willing to pay Bogdan that much.
I set the $18M number because that was the top possible number for the Bucks trade and it equals KCP’s current available max of $10.0M + Kuzma’s $3.5M + JaVale’s $4.2M.
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Read MoreThe success of the Los Angeles Lakers’ offseason and chances to repeat as champions heads for a reckoning this Friday when free agency starts and the team begins a desperate quest to sign a starting center for the season.
A quick look at the Lakers’ current roster heading into free agency lists the team’s only center as JaVale McGee, whose stock went from starting the for the entire regular season to becoming essentially unplayable in the playoffs. Dwight Howard, the other center from the Lakers’ championship roster last season is a free agent who also was benched during the NBA Finals and has announced he wants a bigger contract than the team seems willing to pay.
While the McGee/Howard traditional low post center tandem was a key part of the Lakers’ regular season success, everything changed after the addition of Markieff Morris, who transformed the offense and defense. Morris’ ability to create better spacing on offense and quicker rotations on defense enabled head coach Frank Vogel to play Anthony Davis more at the center position and transform the Lakers into a championship juggernaut.
The result was both McGee and Howard became essentially unplayable against many matchups by the end of the playoffs, leaving the Lakers desperately needing to sign a starting center heading into free agency. Fortunately, there are only three teams with major cap space left and several quality centers whom the Lakers could pursue with their $9.3 million non-taxpayer MLE who’d be better fits than McGee or Howard.
Heading the list is Suns’ free agent Aron Baynes, a 33-year old, 6′ 10,” 260 lb veteran stretch five who averaged 11.5 points, 5.6 rebounds, and 1.6 assists in 22.3 minutes while shooting 35.1% on 4.0 attempts per game. Aron made $5.4 million last season so the Lakers should be able to land him with a big raise by offering him their $9.3 million non-taxpayer MLE and the opportunity to start on a championship team and win a ring.
The Lakers were planning to pursue Baynes last offseason, expecting him to be waived by the Suns after they acquired him in a trade from the Celtics. Unfortunately, Phoenix kept him and he enjoyed a career season for them. Aron would be a great fit on the Lakers and his elite 3-point shooting would open the floor up and make it very hard for teams to pack the paint against LeBron James and Anthony Davis. He should be the Lakers top target.
Second on the list should be 27-year old, 7′ 0,” 240 lb free agent Willie Cauley-Stein who averaged 7.2 points, 5.8 rebounds, and 1.3 assists in 23.0 minutes per game last season as three-level defensive center for the Mavs. While Willie is not a stretch five, he’s an elite rim protector who can defend players on the perimeter. Together with Anthony Davis, he would give the Lakers one of the most dominating defensive front courts in the league.
Willie earned just $2.2 million last season so the Lakers should be able to sign him with their $3.6 million BAE. A pairing of Baynes and Cauley-Stein would give the Lakers a modern offensive and defensive center tandem. The Lakers could then gamble on signing the still injured DeMarcus Cousins to replace McGee and become their third center, giving them a deep and versatile center rotation of Baynes, Cauley-Stein, and Cousins.
Finally, the Lakers should pursue free agent Serge Ibaka, a 31-year old, 7′ 0,” 235 lb veteran center who averaged 15.4 points, 8.2 rebounds, and 1.4 assists in 27.0 minutes while shooting 38.5% on 3.3 attempts per game. Serge made $23.2 million last year, so the best the Lakers can offer is their $9.3 million non-taxpayer MLE. Unfortunately, that may not be enough to lure him from Toronto but the Lakers should definitely make a run at him.
Last but not least, if the Lakers strike out on Baynes, Cauley-Stein, and Ibaka, they probably should consider re-signing Dwight Howard with their $3.6 million BAE as he is a better defender and rebounder than McGee. While Howard won’t give them the modern offensive or defensive center they covet, he did help them win an NBA championship and is still a solid rim protector and physical force on the boards that teams have to respect.
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Just give me Baynes for the MLE, Cauley-Stein for the BAE, and Boogie for the VME. And trade JaVale for a second rounder next season.
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So how would you divide the available 24 minutes between the 3 centers on the roster. Lol. We are at our best with AD at the 5 and that will continue next year as well.
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I’m actually not sure that Baynes at the 5 and AD at the 4 might be better offensively than AD at the 5 and Morris at the 4.
Same with WCS at the 5 and AD at the 4 cold be better defensively than AD at the 5 and Morris at the 4.
Those are even bigger offensive and defensive nightmare matchups for other teams than AD and Morris.
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Aloha Tom, I do like Baynes a lot. But I’m pretty sure we will only sign one more center. AD plays center half the time and we are at our best when he does so I can’t see us using 3 roster spots for centers. As for me I don’t know which would be better for us, signing a center for the full MLE or signing one for say the bi annual and going after a guy like Harkless to guard big wings like Danny did.
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First, we have to figure Boogie is going to take all season to fully recover since he’s not going to be ready to play when we start.
Second, we’re going to reduce AD’s minutes along with LeBron’s since they played in the Finals so he won’t play as many minutes as last year.
Third, neither McGee or Howard allowed us to play the type of offense and defense we played with AD at center. However, Baynes will let us play offensively like AD did and WCS would let s play defensively like we did with AD at the 5. The result is we won’t need AD as much at the five, which will be better for him.
So maybe Baynes plays 16 minutes, WCS, 16 minutes, and Davis 16 minutes at the five. As Boogies gets healthier, we can give him some of AD’s minutes at the 5.
I’m sure we won’t sign all three as that’s a dream scenario but we should get two of the three with maybe McGee as “in case of emergency, break glass” center. Could even see Baynes and Howard, or WCS and Boogie, or ideally, Baynes and WCS.
Can’t come back with Howard and McGee. That much is obvious.
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I guess I’m just much more concerned with perimeter defense then you are Tom. While Danny was a offensive disappointment, his defense was key because he could guard 1 through 3. He even held his ground against bigs. Dennis is a tough defender but he can’t do that. You can find rim protection for the vet min or bae but a stud perimeter defender will cost more. I also think we will continue to go small with AD like last year. Our “small” line up is a nightmare for the entire league. We maybe better offensively with a stretch 5 but it still will not be as good as AD at the 5.
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That’s why we need the versatility of having a modern offensive and defensive center to pair with AD depending on the needs and matchup. Having AD and WCS on the floor at the same time would give us a better defense than AD and Markieff. We would have two shot blockers who can also defend guards and forwards at all three levels when switched.
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You need 2 5’s and if we bring back Cousins than he and McGee are good enough. Would one rather maybe flip McGee for Baynes so Phoenix gets something in return? Sure, that could be a thing. If we have McGee we already have the same skillset as Willie would bring, again maybe we could flip McGee and WCS but I don’t see that one.
Bottom line, even if we run McGee back, promote Cacock to a full 2 Way and bring Boogie back I feel like we’re fine at the 5. Unless Serge wants to take a huge paycut and Toronto has no interest in bringing him back I see him as being out of reach.
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I’m also a big fan of Frank Kaminsky but he may be out of our price range.
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“If we have McGee we already have the same skillset as Willie would bring.”
They’re both excellent rim protectors. Difference is ability to defend on the perimeter, which Willice can do and which JaVale can’t, which is why he became unplayable. WCS 1.1 steals per game. McGee 0.5 steals per game.
Boogie is not even ready to play yet and who knows how well he can play and Cacok is still just a G-Leaguer. Lakers need to invest in a legitimate starting center and McGee, Howard, or Cousins are not that. There is no greater need on the roster right now. Fortunately, there are some excellent options available in free agency.
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Hey, Howard. Great to see you found your way to the new site.
I kind of forgot about Leonard because he’s coming off a $11M contract with Miami and they supposedly want him back but at a discount since he won’t start. I love his 3-point shooting, over 40% the last three years but didn’t play many minutes. Might be able to get a player like him for the modern offensive half of the center tandem and then a WCS or Noel for the defensive half with the $9.3M NT MLE. Good take, he should in the competition if he’s willing to take a cut in pay, which it looks like he will have to do. Thanks.
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LakerTom wrote a new post
Read MoreThe true modern center has to be able to score and defend at every level. That’s why Anthony Davis is such a dominant force when he plays the five. He can score from anywhere on the court and defend all five positions.
There are modern offensive centers who can shoot the three and defensive centers who can protect the rim and defend the perimeter but Anthony Davis is a unicorn, the mythical player every team covets and cannot find. There are a few young centers like Myles Turner and Christian Wood who can emulate parts of AD’s modern offensive and defensive repertoire but the Lakers’ chances of acquiring either of them don’t appear to be realistic.
While the Lakers were successful playing two traditional low post centers during the regular season, there were crucial moments during the playoffs when both McGee and Howard essentially became unplayable at either end. They clogged the middle and made it easier for teams to pack the paint against LeBron and AD on offense and became liabilities unable to defend stretch fives or guards on the perimeter when hunted and switched.
The time has come for the Lakers to modernize the center position and replace the JaVale McGee and Dwight Howard tandem with a center duo that includes a modern offensive center and a modern defensive center. Replacing two traditional low post centers with a modern offensive center who can score at all three levels and a modern defensive center who can defend all five positions will transform the Lakers at both ends of the court.
MODERN OFFENSIVE CENTERS:
The Lakers best offensive performances in the playoffs came when Anthony Davis played the five, Markieff Morris played the four, and the Lakers used various five out sets to create spacing for Lakers players to attack the rim.
Adding a modern stretch five center to the roster would enable the Lakers to continue to allow Anthony Davis to split his time between the four and five while providing James and Davis with optimum spacing for all 48 minutes:
1. Aron Baynes, Free Agent
The 33-year old Aron Baynes is coming off a career year with the Phoenix Suns, where he averaged 11.5 points, 5.6 rebounds, and 1.6 assists in 22.3 minutes per game while shooting 35.1% from deep on 4 threes per game. Those were career highs in 3-point percentages and attempts for a center who transformed his game the last three years to become a modern stretch center after rarely taking a three during the first five years of his career.
Baynes brings the kind of rugged physicality to the game that made Howard so valuable, setting bone crushing screens, boxing out hard on the glass, playing tough positional defense, and being in the right place at right time. Aron made $5.4 million last season so the Lakers might be able to tempt him with a slight raise and part of their $9.3 million non-taxpayer MLE and the opportunity to start on a championship team and win a ring.
2. DeMarcus Cousins, Free Agent
Boogie’s supposedly close to being ready to play after a series of debilitating injuries that threatened to derail his career. If he’s healthy and can play anywhere near his preinjury level, he would be a top candidate to re-sign. Before his injuries, he was on pace to shoot 35.4% on over 500 attempts from beyond the arc. With career averages of 21.2 points, 10.9 rebounds, and 3.2 assists, a healthy Cousins is the prototype modern offensive center.
We know Boogie can score inside and out, is an excellent passer, and had a lot of the same skill set as Nikola Jokic but the big question with is can he still defend or have the injuries cost him the mobility and lift needed to defend? The Lakers can likely sign the 30-year old Cousins to a veteran’s minimum contract and his great history and relationship with Anthony Davis make him a leading candidate to be the Lakers’ modern offensive center.
3. Serge Ibaka, Free Agent
The 31-year old Serge Ibaka could be the best overall fit for the Lakers as a modern offensive center because he’s a superior 3-point shooter, rim protector, and shot blocker than either DeMarcus Cousins or Aron Baynes. The problem is he would be more expensive. Serge made $23.2 million last year, which means the best the Lakers can likely offer is their $9.3 million non-taxpayer MLE. Unfortunately, that may not be enough to lure him.
Serge averaged 15.4 points, 8.2 rebounds, and 1.4 assists in 27.0 minutes while shooting 38.5% from deep on 3.3 attempts per game last season. While he’s been linked to the Lakers in rumors, he’s a long shot to acquire. The Raptors want to keep him and he’s already won a ring there. What might make the difference is offering a multiple year deal, which the Lakers may be willing to consider since Giannis may be staying with the Bucks.
MODERN DEFENSIVE CENTERS:
The Lakers best defensive performances in the playoffs came when Anthony Davis played the five, Markieff Morris the four, and the Lakers used speed, quickness, mobility, and athleticism to protect the rim and perimeter.
Adding a modern defensive center to the roster would enable the Lakers to continue to play the aggressive suffocating defense that dominated teams in the playoffs for the entire game rather than just when Davis played the five.
1. Willie Cauley-Stein, Free Agent
The 27-year old 7′ 0,” 240 lb Willie Cauley-Stein is my top pick to be the modern defensive center in the Lakers’ new center tandem. He averaged 7.2 points, 5.8 rebounds, and 1.3 assists in 23.0 minutes per game last season. Willie’s real value, however, came at the defensive end where he averaged 1.2 blocks and 1.1 steals for the Mavericks, impressive numbers for just 23.0 minutes per game. Willie has exercised his player option and is a free agent.
I believe Willie is the closest thing to Anthony Davis as a modern defensive center who can protect the rim and block shots and switch onto guards and forwards and challenge shots beyond the arc or stuff drives to the basket. Willie and AD would create a formidable defensive duo of pterodactyls who could put a suffocating lid on the Lakers’ defensive basket. I would offer Willie half of our $9.3 million non-taxpayer MLE and a chance to win a ring.
2. Nerlens Noel, Free Agent
26-year old, 6′ 10,” 220 lb Nerlens Noel is another young, mobile, bouncy modern defensive center who can protect the rim and defend five positions who would be an excellent fit as part of the Lakers’ new center tandem. Nerlens averaged 7.4 points, 4.9 rebounds, and 0.9 assists in just 18.5 minutes per game. Like Cauley-Stein, Noel’s value was on defense where he averaged an amazing 1.5 blocks and 1.2 steals in less than half a game.
If the Lakers can’t sign Willie Cauley-Stein, they should definitely pursue Nerlens Noel, who only made the $1.6 million veteran minimum with the OKC Thunder last season. He would be a perfect candidate for the BAE. Considering the great job Frank Vogel did with old school centers like McGee and Howard, imagine what he could put together with a faster, younger, and more athletic center like Nerlens Noel next to Anthony Davis.
3. Tristan Thompson, Free Agent
The 29-year old, 6′ 9.” 254 lb Tristan Thompson is a former teammate and long time friend of LeBron James, who respects his defensive ability and would love to have him join the Lakers as their modern defensive center. While his blocks and steals stats don’t compare with the younger Cauley-Stein or Noel, Tristan has a well deserved reputation as being a smart and talented center who can protect the rim and defend on the perimeter.
The big issue with Thompson is cost as he’s coming off an $18.5 million contract with Cleveland that many considered to be an overpayment and blame on LeBron James who lobbied heavily for the Cavaliers to sign him. Tristan also started shooting 3-point shots last season, taking 23 threes in 57 games and hitting 9 of them for 39.0%. Thompson merits consideration because of LeBron but only if he were willing to sign a minimum contract.
The Lakers single-handedly restored the center position and going big as a viable option last season and have an opportunity to continue the evolution by rebuilding their center rotation to embrace the modern analytics game. Small ball’s never really been about small being better than big. It’s about empowering players who had the offensive and defensive skills of guards and forwards along with the size and length to play and defend the five.
Replacing their two traditional low post centers with a modern offensive center who can stretch defenses and a modern defensive center who can guard all five positions could transform the Lakers into a juggernaut. Imagine how much better the Los Angeles Lakers would be if they replaced JaVale McGee and Dwight Howard with a center who can shoot the 3 like Aron Baynes and center who can defend 5 positions like Willie Cauley-Stein.
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It’s interesting how it now appears that all of the Lakers players who had player options appear to be deciding to exercise those options, including AD, KCP, Rondo, Bradley, and McGee. While AD is re-signing and KCP is either coming back or being signed-and-traded, it appears Rondo, Bradley, and McGee are leaving, along with Howard, who is a free agent.
Appropo to my article, it looks more and more like the Lakers will be looking for a new center tandem to replace McGee and Howard, which I think is a great opportunity for the Lakers to modernize their center position to embrace the modern analytics game and transform the Lakers into a dynastic juggernaut. In fact, replacing JaVale and Dwight with Baynes and Cauley-Stein could be the biggest upgrade the Lakers make this offseason.
It’s a move that basically doubles down on what the Lakers learned during the playoffs: that traditional low post centers were becoming unplayable in the modern NBA. Instead, the modern center needs to be able to score on all three levels and defend all five positions. While there aren’t any more Anthony Davis unicorns to add, the Lakers can transform their old school two-headed center into a modern offensive center like Baynes and modern defensive center like Cauley-Stein.
Considering what Frank did with McGee and Howard, I’m excited to think about what he could do with a modern tandem like Baynes and Cauley-Stein or Cousins and Noel. The Lakers have an opportunity this offseason to catapult themselves ahead of the pretenders building superteams and create the basis for the next purple and gold dynasty. Counting on you to make it happen, Rob. Don’t let us down.
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What you’re missing, Stan, is the value of a modern defensive center, meaning a player who can defend all five positions, like Anthony Davis. I’m not really a fan of Thompson but both WCS and Noel are fast, quick, and mobile enough to defend at all three levels – low post, midrange, and 3-point line. The reason JaVale and Dwight became unplayable in the playoffs was they could not defend on the perimeter.
When you think about Vogel’s desire for defense first, Willie or Noel would be great fits next to AD. They would dramatically elevate our defense. Pairing one of them with Aron Baynes would be a dream center tandem for the Lakers and a massive upgrade over McGee and Howard. They would together play around half the game with AD covering the other half.
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I feel like McGee sticking with his PO takes us out of the running for all 3. Some of these guys might also have just watched us bench every center for entire playoff series and choose a aplce where they won’t have to sacrifice to AD, bigger payday than we’ll likely be offering (although it’s hard to see that materializing at this point for most of the remaing 5s). I don’t see much of a trade market for McGee, even with Kuzma as bait. The money won’t be a lot so you aren’t likely to find a player making that money that an organization would part with and that we would want. Could happen, feels unlikely now.
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I don’t think JaVale signing affects much. No way he’s going to be the starting center. Our top priority is to sign a starting center. Bradley opting out gives us money to pay KCP $12M and still have the $9.3M NT MLE and $3.6M BAE. I think we need to spend the full MLE to get either Baynes or Ibaka and maybe the BAE to get Matthews. I’d be thrilled with that.
I still think there’s a chance we might package a S&T of KCP with Kuz and McGee for Oladipo or S&T for Bogdan. Not likely but possible.
PG: Schroder, Caruso
SG: KCP, Matthews, THT
SF: James, Kuzma
PF: Davis, Morris
CE: Baynes, Cousins, McGee
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My dream Lakers roster after Friday’s free Agency:
PG: Schroder, Caruso
SG: KCP, Matthews, THT
SF: LeBron, Kuzma
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Hey, Darryll, thanks for the great comment and questions. Like the way you think.
First, I think Schroder is going to start for several reasons:
1. He was not happy coming off the bench in OKC and Woj said the Lakers have promised him a chance to start. Don’t want to risk his not re-signing next offseason.
2. We saw during the playoffs how much better the team and LeBron and AD were when they had a legitimate point guard like Rondo on the floor with them. Because Dennis is a better 3-point shooter, we should even be better.
3. He is clearly now the third star on the team from salary standpoint. Starting point guard is more important than 6th man and I think we have a better candidate for that in Kyle Kuzma.
As for Kuzma, Pelinka made some intriguing comments today about Kyle filling Danny Green’s role defensively and maybe talking extension down the road. I’ve always wondered about Kuzma starting at the two being a way to get around him playing the same positions as LeBron and AD.
I think KCP is going to start at the two, assuming we don’t include him in a S&T and I think we may see Kuzma play starter minutes as the first backup at both the 2 and the 3. He can definitely defend both positions better than the 4.
The key is Kyle has to fix his broken shot and shoot at least 36% from deep. If he can do that, he might get an extension. If not, he will likely be traded before the midseason trade deadline.
Thanks also for the comments re the modern center tandem. I wolud be thrilled if we ended up with Baynes and WCP or Noel. Defending against the three is as important as making them.
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Good comments, Darryll.
And glad you like the new site.Here’s where we stand right now after McGee opted in and Bradley out:
PG: Schroder, Caruso
SG: Caldwell-Pope, Horton-Tucker
SF: James, Kuzma
PF: Davis
CE: McGee
Free Agents: Howard, Morris, Rondo, Bradley…
Top Priorities:
1. Starting Center – Baynes or Ibaka? Howard?
2. Shooting Guard, Wing Defender – Matthews?
3. Backup Power Forward – Morris or Green?
4. Third Point Guard – ?…
Free Agency Assets:
1. $9.3M NT MLE
2. $3.6M BAE
3. $1,6M VME (only cap hit, actual pay depends on years in NBA)…
Trade Assets:
1. Kyle Kuzma $3.5M
2. JaVale McGee $4.2M
3. KCP $12– 15M S&TTotal $19.7–$22.7M = $24.7M –$28.4M
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Trade Targets:
1. KCP S&T, Kuzma, & McGee for Oladipo
2. KCP S&T, Kuzma, & McGee for Bogdanovic on $18M S&T…
My Dream:
PG: Schroder, Caruso
SG: Oladipo, Matthews,
SF: James, Horton-Tucker
PF: Davis, Morris
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What are everyone’s thoughts on Frank Kaminsky? Had a regressive season last year in Phoenix but that could have been a lot of factors. Has been a decent stretch big and has solid playmaking skills.
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LakerTom wrote a new post
Read MoreKudos to the Los Angeles Lakers’ Rob Pelinka for pulling off a trade that not only gives the Lakers a needed third scorer and second playmaker in Dennis Schroder but also for not giving up his primary trading chip in Kyle Kuzma.
Getting Sam Presti to accept Danny Green and the 28th pick in the draft in exchange for Schroder means Pelinka still has enough ammunition left to pull off a second major trade to fill needs and upgrade the Lakers’ roster. Kuzma has starter quality talent and ambitions but plays the same positions as Lakers’ superstars James and Davis. Kyle will become a restricted free agent next offseason so it makes sense for the Lakers to trade him now.
The surprise is not that the Lakers traded for Schroder but that they did not have to give up Kuzma as part of the package. The expectation all along has been that any Lakers package had to include Kuzma, Green, and the pick. Since Kuzma will only make $3.5 million this season, the Lakers will need to include other contracts as salary filler to receive true value for him. That’s why everybody assumed he would be likely be traded with Green.
Without Danny Green’s $15.5 million contract, Rob Pelinka may only have JaVale McGee’s $4.2 million and Quinn Cook’s $3.0 million as salary filler since word is Avery Bradley is likely to exercise his $5.0 million player option. That means the Lakers would be limited to trading for a player or players whose combined salaries were less than 125% of the $10.7 million total salaries they were sending out plus $100,000, which equals $13.5 million.
There are several outstanding players who make less than $13.5 million per year who may be available in a trade for a talented young player with star potential like Kzma and would be perfect additions to the Lakers’ roster. How about trading Kuzma, McGee, and Cook for New Orleans shooting guard JJ Redick, who has 1 year left at $13.0 million, or Houston power forward Robert Covington, who has 2 years left and earns $12.9 million?
The Lakers could also utilize the $10.7 million Kuzma, McGee, and Cook package to pursue a sign-and-trade package for a coveted free agent who wanted more money than available for the $9.3 million non-taxpayer MLE. That might be the difference in convincing Serge Ibaka or Danilo Gallinari to sign with the Lakers and the Raptors or Thunder would be more than willing to agree to a sign-and-trade to acquire Kuzma without giving up anything.
There’s another scenario where a team offers Kentavious Caldwell-Pope a contract for more salary or years than the Lakers are willing to pay, in which case the Lakers could include a KCP sign-and-trade in the Kuzma package. For example, if a team were willing to offer KCP a 3-year contract starting at $15 million per year, the Lakers would be able to offer Kuzma, McGee, Cook, and KCP for a star player with an annual salary up to $32.2 million.
While I don’t think Kuzma, KCP, and filler is enough for the Lakers to land a legitimate star, it does give the Lakers a way to offer a player like Serge Ibaka or maybe Christian Wood a salary that’s greater than $13.5 million. Bottom line, the Lakers have a plethora of options to trade Kyle Kuzma to fill critical needs and Rob Pelinka is not done making deals to upgrade the roster. The trade for Dennis Schroder was just the first domino to fall.
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I think we’re in for another transcendent NBA offseason, much like last offseason where big name players were moving like chess pieces and challengers were emerging from everywhere.
I don’t see any way Rob doesn’t move Kuzma this week. This will be the best opportunity to sell high on him and the move I like is flipping him to New Orleans for JJ Redick. Reunite Kuzma with the rest of the baby Lakers. McGee also fits their needs. And JJ has 1-year left and is on the market. Kuzma’s a perfect fit for NO.
The word that Bradley is opting out could give the Lakers room to still keep KCP. I think that’s an important move for the Lakers to do. Because of age and defense, he’s more important than Rondo now that we have Dennis. He’s a Klutch brother. Pay him.
As I said in the article: “Bottom line, the Lakers have a plethora of options to trade Kyle Kuzma to fill critical needs and Rob Pelinka is not done making deals to upgrade the roster. The trade for Dennis Schroder was just the first domino to fall.”
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Thanks for reading and commenting, Havoc. Great points. Oubre would be terrific on the Lakers but Presti is not going to trade him for Kuzma and filler. Oubre is way better than Kuz.
You’re right that we won’t get a star with Kuzma. Best we could do for Kuzma would be a vet on a rebuilding team like Redick or, if the Rockets blow it up, Covington.
Kuzma’s value is he’s youth and upside. He’s not going to get another young player. Best is a veteran from a rebuilding team.
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Just read OKC doesn’t want to keep Oubre. Too bad we don’t have another draft pick to trade.
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If we assume the trade market for Kyle Kuzma is a rebuilding team looking to move an overpaid veteran player under contract or a free agent available via a sign-and-trade, what options remain for the Lakers to trade Kuzma?
1. Pelicans: JJ Redick
2. Thunder: Danilo Gallinari
3. Raptors: Serge Ibaka.
4. Rockets: Robert CovingtonWhat if the Lakers include a S&T of KCP?
1. Pistons: Christian Wood
2. Thunder: Kelly Oubre
3. Nuggets: Jerami Grant
4. Pacers: Victor OladipoI think an interesting trade that might appeal to the Pacers would be Kuzma and KCP on a 3-year $45 million S&T for an injured Victor Oladipo. Victor slides into Green’s starting shooting guard and KCP takes over for Victor on the Pacers plus Indiana gets a high upside combo forward in Kuzma.
I love the offense and defense of a Schroder and Oladipo backcourt.
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LT that’s the first Oladipo trade I can get behind pretty much 100%.
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Thanks, Jamie. I think it would be a win for both teams. KCP is a quality two-way shooting guard who would be a great fit on any team and Kuzma could blossom with a starting role on the Pacers. Meanwhile, the Lakers get a shot at the third superstar they need to go with LeBron and AD and to pair with AD when LeBron retires.
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OR you can hold onto him until the deadline, make a decision on whether to extend, trade or let it ride in free agency. His cap hold isn’t terrible, nor is it great ($8.9 mil) and his QO is reasonable ($5.2 mil). At that price you can afford to wait and see all the way into free agency. Frankly, without a large contract to pair with Kyle (the only potential one we can conceivably move would be for whatever we sign KCP to at this point) there’s not too many avenues left to get equitable value for Kyle. He also could S&T for next off-season, as well.
Frankly it also makes a decent amount of sense to work out an extension mid-season. He’s extension-eligible this entire season, I believe, and that could work in our favor, as well. Rob has demonstrated elite skills in navigating the NBA salary cap rules. Feels like that, since we’re moving Green, he has a bold plan in place. Here’s hoping.
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There’s always a risk making moves in the middle of the season, especially one likely to be as crazy as the coming one. Victor could recover completely and become unavailable. I think there’s a better chance of that happening than Kuz changing his trajectory because of playing time. Better to make the move now while Oladipo is potentially available. I don’t like changes midstream. It’s a long shot probably but it’s an idea I like.
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Read MoreThe most distressing rumor an NBA fan can hear is that their favorite team is seriously considering a trade that makes absolutely no sense, which is exactly how I feel about the Lakers trading for the Spurs’ DeMar DeRozan.
No disrespect to DeRozan, he’s a proven veteran 20-points, 5-rebounds, and 5-assists per game former two-time All-NBA player and Los Angeles native who grew up rooting for the purple and gold and idolizing Kobe Bryant. DeMar’s only 31-years old, is obviously available, is a reliable scorer who can get his own shot and create for others, and arguably could fill the Lakers’ need for a third star to complement LeBron James and Anthony Davis.
The problem is DeMar’s fit on a defense-first Lakers team whose greatest offensive need is improved 3-point shooting to stop opposing teams from from packing the paint to prevent James and Davis from getting to the rim. The 6′ 6,” 220 lb DeRozan was the 10th worst defender on a Spurs team that was the 24th worst defensive team in the league and shot just 25.7% from deep last season, below his poor 28.2% career 3-point percentage.
So the question is what are the Lakers thinking? How can they seriously be considering trading for DeRozan when his mere presence on the court is likely to downgrade their defense and limit spacing for James and Davis? DeRozan has $27.7 million left on his 1-year contract, meaning the Lakers would have to send $22.2 million in return, which they could do with Green’s $15.4 million, Kuzma’s $3.6 million, and McGee’s $4.2 million.
Why the Spurs would like to do that is simple: Kyle Kuzma. But why the Lakers would swap their best trading chip and valuable expiring contracts for a star player who doesn’t fit and is on an expiring contract is a mystery? Assuming there’s some truth to the rumors and knowing Rob Pelinka’s a savvy and smart basketball executive, let’s see if a DeRozan trade could make sense when viewed in the context of other moves and strategies.
First, adding DeRozan, who can deliver 20-points, 5-rebounds, and 5-assists per game, could be transformative for the Lakers, who clearly lack a player who can get a high percentage shot for himself or a teammate at any time. Second, maybe the Lakers don’t have the assets to trade for a player of the quality of Jrue Holiday, Victor Oladipo, or Myles Turner. Maybe DeRozan is the best available option as a third star to complement James and Davis.
The truth is the Lakers spent most of their valuable trading chips to acquire Anthony Davis and the players they would be giving up for DeRozan are likely not as appealing to other teams as Lakers fans believe them to be. After all, Kuzma hasn’t developed as expected and wants a bigger raise than the Lakers are willing to give him, Green has not lived up to his resume or $15 million salary, and McGee became basically unplayable in the playoffs.
So what are you really giving up in a DeRozan trade? DeMar is arguably a major upgrade at starting shooting guard over Green and neither Kuzma or McGee were significant contributors to the Lakers 2020 championship run. While there are obvious fit issues to resolve, the major objections to trading for DeMar are based on the possibly questionable opinion the Lakers should be able to get a better player than DeRozan for Kuzma, Green, and McGee.
While the fit issues are real and he’s not a good defender or 3-point shooter, DeRozan does have legitimate strengths that fill major needs for the Lakers on offense, namely his ability to get his own shot and make plays for others. DeMar could be the third scorer and second playmaker the Lakers need to complement LeBron James and Anthony Davis. He’s also capable of being a go to player down the stretch who force doubles and finds open shooters.
The problem is how to account for DeRozan’s mediocre defense and lack of gravity from beyond the arc? The answer could be as simple as making changes to the Lakers’ starting lineup and roster to ameliorate those issues. For example, the Lakers could sign a stretch five center like Serge Ibaka or Aron Baynes, whose elite and prolific 3-point shooting can stretch defenses and create spacing for James, Davis, and DeRozan to attack the rim?
Replacing a traditional low post center like Howard or McGee with a modern stretch center like Ibaka or Baynes would transform the Lakers 3-point game and enable them to play 5-out sets to spread defenses and open up lanes. That’s a perfect offensive environment for DeRozan to take advantage of his ability to score in the paint via high percentage jumpers and easy layups or create easy scoring opportunities for teammates with his elite playmaking.
Finally, there’s another reason the Lakers might want to trade for DeMar DeRozan over other star players who arguably fit better like Jrue Holiday, Myles Turner, Buddy Hield, or Chris Paul, which is his expiring contract. While the Lakers are in a ‘win now’ mode, there’s no evidence Rob Pelinka is planning to abandon his grand plan to create maximum cap space to pursue Giannis Antetokounmpo next offseason despite the impact of coronavirus.
Despite Kawhi’s rejection last summer, Pelinka stubbornly refused to sign players to contracts for more than two years, opting to preserve as much cap space as possible to sign Giannis or another legitimate third superstar. While the pandemic may have dimmed the Lakers’ chances of creating the cap space for a third superstar, Rob Pelinka may still be committed to the original plan and unwilling to take on more than 1-year contracts.
That would certainly explain why the Lakers might be looking at DeRozan as their best viable option for a major roster upgrade this season without compromising their plans to pursue a third superstar next offseason. Trading for DeRozan and signing Ibaka or Baynes could be the Lakers best option to respond to the major challenges they’re likely to face as the Clippers, Bucks, Warriors, Celtics, and Heat all upgrade their rosters.
The Lakers have never been focused on winning single championships and Rob Pelinka knows LeBron James’ seeming invincibility will come to an end and the Lakers will need another superstar to complement Anthony Davis. The dream of a Lakers’ Big Three and a superstar to pair with AD may be what’s driving the Lakers to pursue DeMar DeRozan as a 1-year option to repeat as NBA champions while still keeping the big picture plan alive.
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Maybe the DeRozan rumors are simply attempts by the Spurs and DeMar’s agent to hype his trade value or simply just Twitter smoke but I can’t help feeling that’s there may be something real about them. After writing this article, I have to admit I wouldn’t be surprised if the Lakers actually did trade for DeRozan.
Obviously, I’ve never been a big fan of DeRozan, primarily because he doesn’t stretch the floor or play good defense. I’m biased against players who haven’t embraced the 3-point shot and added it to their arsenal, especially somebody like DeRozan who’s a career 83% free throw shooter.
But that doesn’t mean I don’t appreciate what DeMar could bring to the Lakers, especially if they moved on from traditional low post centers like Howard and McGee and brought in a modern stretch five center like Ibaka or Baynes. I think that would be an absolute requirement if they were to trade for DeRozan. I don’t see how you could play DeMar alongside Howard or McGee.
As I delineate in the article, there’s a chance DeRozan might be the best trade option the Lakers have to add more firepower to the starting lineup. Frankly, we’re not likely to trade Kuzma, Green, and McGee for anybody better. And we keep Caruso and the draft pick and avoid any long term contracts so we have maximum cap space for next offseason.
Bottom line, it sounds like a new version of last year’s moves after Kawhi bailed on us. Maybe DeRozan will take and make more threes because he’ll be open. Maybe Vogel’s defense first culture and peer pressure will lead him to play better defense. For sure, he will give us a reliable third scorer who shares the ball and can get his own shot. If Rob and LeBron and AD think it could work, then I’m all for it, especially if we can’t get any of the other trade targets we covet. Never thought I would support trading for DeRozan but it could be a savvy move in a larger context.
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PG: KCP, Rondo, #28 Pick
SG: DeRozan, Caruso
SF: LeBron, THT
PF: Davis, Morris, Dudley
CE: Ibaka, Howard, Cousins
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Love to get Dragic and Ibaka but cannot get both with $9.3M MLE. Be lucky to get one. And if we are really going to trade for DeRozan, we have to have Ibaka. Can’t play DeMar with Howard or McGee and Boogie’s still a big question mark. Bradley looks like he’s opting out.
Dudley for 15th man for sure. Some Dudley stats. 42.9% on 3-point shots was best on team for players who took more than 40 attempts.
Dudley 98.4 defensive rating was not only the best on the Lakers for the regular season but the only player under 100. Even better than Alex Caruso’s excellent 101.0.
BEST 15TH MAN IN THE LEAGUE
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By the way, Sean, Vince Carter was more like the 13th man on the Hawks, averaging 14.6 minutes per game while Dudley was true 15th man averaging only 8.1 minutes per game. I still stand by Jared Dudley being the Best 15th Man in the NBA.
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i know you love Bogdan because he can shoot the 3 but he doesn’t improve the team if you have to give up both KCP and Kuz for him. KCP is a much better defender and while streaky at time, shot a better percentage from 3. Kuz is also a better defender and can guard wings and PF’s. Kuz also is devloping into a good playmaker, moves without the ball and runs the floor with the best of them. i could be wrong but i would be very surpride if we traded both guys for him.